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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: BleedGreen1989 on February 12, 2013, 12:53:58 PM

Title: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 12, 2013, 12:53:58 PM
meh? Minn gets their SG of the future and likely can't resign Pek after this season.
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: Lucky17 on February 12, 2013, 12:59:40 PM
meh? Minn gets their SG of the future and likely can't resign Pek after this season.

Why can't Minnesota resign Pek?
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 12, 2013, 01:02:42 PM
meh? Minn gets their SG of the future and likely can't resign Pek after this season.


Why can't Minnesota resign Pek?

I suppose they can but Kirelinko is due 10mill next year with a player option so they would be walking into heavy luxury tax by giving Pek the contract he's going to get.

Also, Rubio is eligible for an extension next season and I'm sure he won't be cheap.
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: LooseCannon on February 12, 2013, 01:05:36 PM
They can resign him, since he is a restricted free agent.  The question is whether he will get an offer that is more than they think he is worth.  Numbers like $10-12m/year are being tossed about.
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: heitingas on February 12, 2013, 01:09:56 PM
I'm on board.

After that trade KG to the Clips, get Bledsoe to replace Bradley.
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 12, 2013, 01:10:10 PM
They can resign him, since he is a restricted free agent.  The question is whether he will get an offer that is more than they think he is worth.  Numbers like $10-12m/year are being tossed about.

Like I said, they CAN resign him technically but that will put them in luxury tax.

I'd be shocked if he got less than 10mill
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: Moranis on February 12, 2013, 01:14:54 PM
They can resign him, since he is a restricted free agent.  The question is whether he will get an offer that is more than they think he is worth.  Numbers like $10-12m/year are being tossed about.

Like I said, they CAN resign him technically but that will put them in luxury tax.

I'd be shocked if he got less than 10mill
Unless my math is wrong, I don't think that puts Minnesota into luxury tax range, especially if they can medically remove Roy from their cap.
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: Lucky17 on February 12, 2013, 01:19:03 PM
They can resign him, since he is a restricted free agent.  The question is whether he will get an offer that is more than they think he is worth.  Numbers like $10-12m/year are being tossed about.

Like I said, they CAN resign him technically but that will put them in luxury tax.

I'd be shocked if he got less than 10mill

I don't think that's quite right.

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/timberwolves.jsp

Without the numbers for Kirilenko, Pek, Cunningham, Conroy, and Stiemsma, the Wolves have around $42 million, give or take, committed for next season.

Assuming Kirilenko uses his option, payroll jumps to $52 million. That's still a good $18 mil below the luxury tax threshold for next season. Resigning Pek to a big contract won't make them taxpayers.
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 12, 2013, 01:23:22 PM
They can resign him, since he is a restricted free agent.  The question is whether he will get an offer that is more than they think he is worth.  Numbers like $10-12m/year are being tossed about.

Like I said, they CAN resign him technically but that will put them in luxury tax.

I'd be shocked if he got less than 10mill

I don't think that's quite right.

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/timberwolves.jsp

Without the numbers for Kirilenko, Pek, Cunningham, Conroy, and Stiemsma, the Wolves have around $42 million, give or take, committed for next season.

Assuming Kirilenko uses his option, payroll jumps to $52 million. That's still a good $18 mil below the luxury tax threshold for next season. Resigning Pek to a big contract won't make them taxpayers.

Hmm my bad, it appears my math was wrong
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: Lucky17 on February 12, 2013, 01:27:01 PM
I think your premise isn't far off: I doubt the Wolves will want to field a roster potentially costing well over $60 million next year.

I think they'll try to move non-core guys, like Roy and Ridnour, and maybe Derrick Williams, to free up payroll they can devote to bringing back Pek. I imagine he's a big part of their plans for the future.
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: LooseCannon on February 12, 2013, 01:55:14 PM
I don't think it has to do with luxury tax.  I think it has more to do with the possibility that Pekovic signs an offer sheet for four years at $12m per year.  If that is going to happen, should the T-Wolves match, should they let him go and get nothing in return, or should they trade him now so they get something for him and don't have to overpay to avoid being in a spot where they have only the MLE or equivalent size to find a replacement.
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 12, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
I don't think it has to do with luxury tax.  I think it has more to do with the possibility that Pekovic signs an offer sheet for four years at $12m per year.  If that is going to happen, should the T-Wolves match, should they let him go and get nothing in return, or should they trade him now so they get something for him and don't have to overpay to avoid being in a spot where they have only the MLE or equivalent size to find a replacement.

Portland?
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: Lucky17 on February 12, 2013, 02:12:23 PM
I don't think it has to do with luxury tax.  I think it has more to do with the possibility that Pekovic signs an offer sheet for four years at $12m per year.  If that is going to happen, should the T-Wolves match, should they let him go and get nothing in return, or should they trade him now so they get something for him and don't have to overpay to avoid being in a spot where they have only the MLE or equivalent size to find a replacement.

Portland?

I don't think they'll have quite the cap room to make that kind of offer. Pek would be a nice fit there, though.
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: LooseCannon on February 12, 2013, 02:25:37 PM
I don't think it has to do with luxury tax.  I think it has more to do with the possibility that Pekovic signs an offer sheet for four years at $12m per year.  If that is going to happen, should the T-Wolves match, should they let him go and get nothing in return, or should they trade him now so they get something for him and don't have to overpay to avoid being in a spot where they have only the MLE or equivalent size to find a replacement.

Portland?

Dallas is obviously clearing space to make a run at a free agent, although I don't think they are the sort of team to overvalue Pekovic like that.  Maybe Atlanta, if they lose Josh Smith and fail to land Dwight Howard, would consider overpaying Pekovic.  Would he fit the 76ers if Bynum doesn't want to be there?
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: ssspence on February 12, 2013, 02:34:03 PM
Not equal value for Minny. They pass.
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: Who on February 12, 2013, 02:42:37 PM
Bradley hasn't played well enough this season since returning from injury to be able to net as strong a player as Niko Pekovic.

I don't see Bradley being a strong trade asset at this moment in time. 
Title: Re: Bradley/Bass for Pekovic/Ridnour
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 12, 2013, 02:45:56 PM
Mount Pek is a double-double machine. Ridnour is a borderline NBA starter.

I understand that they will get an excellent defender in return, but even along with Bass, it's not equal value.

Then again, we are talking about David Kahn here...

KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN!