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Title: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: kgfor3 on February 11, 2013, 10:53:54 AM
Unfortunately neither is not an option.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: esel1000 on February 11, 2013, 10:55:40 AM
As much as I hate to say it (because I really don't like the guy), D12. He has his flaws but not only is he a legit big man, he makes far less dumb decisions than Smith and is a defensive beast. He isn't used well in LA and I feel he needs to be a first option (unlike being on a team with Kobe). Look at the Magic without him.. so yeah D12 easily
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: Fafnir on February 11, 2013, 10:57:31 AM
Has to be Howard still, Josh Smith isn't exactly having his best season.

But Howard's back and shoulder scare me that he'll never be an MVP caliber guy again, perhaps just an all-star level C. That's a pretty big decline for him.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 11, 2013, 10:58:42 AM
I go with Smith. Howard has shown to have a terribly poor attitude and becomes a whining cry baby in situations he doesnt like. I would much rather have Smith. Especially because currently he seems healthier. Who knows if Dwight will ever be his old self again.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: kozlodoev on February 11, 2013, 10:59:28 AM
Neither? I'm not interested in building a mediocre team.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: Chris on February 11, 2013, 11:06:47 AM
This isn't even close in my mind.  Howard, even with his injuries is still one of the more dominant presences in the league.  Put him on a team that wasn't so disfunctional, and I think he would be a very different player.

Smith is insanely overrated in these parts IMO.  He is one of the most infuriating offensive players in the league, and isn't as dominant defensively as Howard. 
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: mikestar on February 11, 2013, 11:11:35 AM
Howard by a country mile.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 11, 2013, 11:14:36 AM
Probably impossible to get Howard.....he ll be a net, hawk , or Mav next year , I think he'll be healthier one day, maybe no Orlando like for a long time..     He is so weak mentally., a head case, but he might grow up.

Like Smith........ but not as max or franchise player........meh.....he 's not worth as much as he thinks

DA......likes value, risks,   like Sully ..........

Still believe Celtics would be set, landing Cousins and retraining him.........I can see DA gambling on DMC
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: kozlodoev on February 11, 2013, 11:21:53 AM
This isn't even close in my mind.  Howard, even with his injuries is still one of the more dominant presences in the league.  Put him on a team that wasn't so disfunctional, and I think he would be a very different player.
Like the Orlando Magic, for example?

A large part of why those teams are so dysfunctional is that they have Dwight Howard.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: RAcker on February 11, 2013, 11:26:13 AM
Unfortunately neither is not an option.
Well, that just ain't right.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: Chris on February 11, 2013, 11:26:51 AM
This isn't even close in my mind.  Howard, even with his injuries is still one of the more dominant presences in the league.  Put him on a team that wasn't so disfunctional, and I think he would be a very different player.
Like the Orlando Magic, for example?

A large part of why those teams are so dysfunctional is that they have Dwight Howard.

No, they are dysfunctional because they let Howard pull the strings.  They made some truly terrible decisions, in order to try to make Howard happy, rather than trying to make the team better. 
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: kozlodoev on February 11, 2013, 11:29:58 AM
This isn't even close in my mind.  Howard, even with his injuries is still one of the more dominant presences in the league.  Put him on a team that wasn't so disfunctional, and I think he would be a very different player.
Like the Orlando Magic, for example?

A large part of why those teams are so dysfunctional is that they have Dwight Howard.

No, they are dysfunctional because they let Howard pull the strings.  They made some truly terrible decisions, in order to try to make Howard happy, rather than trying to make the team better.
Yes, because so many teams have done great by alienating their best players.

It's not the Lakers or the Magic. It's Howard.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: slamtheking on February 11, 2013, 12:27:15 PM
ideally neither but a case can be made for DH.  no case for building around Smith.

Smith isn't a bad 2nd or better yet 3rd banana but DH is a pretty good second banana as long as he buys into it.  Neither one has shown me the BBIQ necessary to be the top player on the team.  Smith arguably has the heart to do it but I just don't see that in DH. 
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 11, 2013, 12:30:51 PM
I would bet nothing happens, but personally I would not mind a move.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: wdleehi on February 11, 2013, 12:38:37 PM
Howard.


It has been shown that you can build a title contending team around him without another top player.




Smith isn't even the best player on non-contending playoff team. 
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: LEHGOCELTICS on February 11, 2013, 12:58:37 PM
Dwight, but both seem unfeasible.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: Vermont Green on February 11, 2013, 01:00:13 PM
Howard is clearly the more valuable player but I think any team that gives either a max contract will regret it.  Smith becasue he is just plain not that good and Howard because, well becasue Dwight will always be Dwight (kind of like Manny being Manny).
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: scaryjerry on February 11, 2013, 01:00:45 PM
About equal...don't really want either
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: StartOrien on February 11, 2013, 01:08:22 PM
Dwight Howard. A zillion times out of a zillion
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: scaryjerry on February 11, 2013, 01:11:17 PM
Dwight Howard. A zillion times out of a zillion


Would've said the same 2 years ago

Turns out he's a petulant child who already seemed to peek and he has pretty much no skill...relied on being a specimen
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 11, 2013, 01:12:53 PM
About equal...don't really want either

This.

I would take JSmooth but not for a max deal. Maybe around 10mill a year
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: TheBig5 on February 11, 2013, 01:14:04 PM
Of course Dwight, but the last year or so have really made me not like Dwight. Terrible attitude and likely will never be the same due to his back injury in my opinion.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: Who on February 11, 2013, 06:02:21 PM
Dwight Howard. His paint presence is still very valuable even if Dwight is unable to return to his former MVP caliber glory.

Can't build around Josh Smith. He is a nice supporting star player but no more than that.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 11, 2013, 06:10:30 PM
I can't understand the Josh Smith love at all.  I assume it's me, but he has never impressed me.  Reminds me of Antoine; a guy who'll give give you something and then take it away.  I guess he can block shots and is an athletic guy, but I always see him making mistakes with the ball and taking ill-advised shots.  I guess I need to watch him more.

I've seen DH be dominant.  Can't say I've seen much of him this year, but in the past he's been a huge difference maker.  DH can be the #1 guy on a team with the right players around him. Smith, it seems to me, needs to be a 2nd or 3rd best guy. 
Title: Re: Dwight Howard or Josh Smith
Post by: eugen on February 11, 2013, 06:14:23 PM
Dwight Howard