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Title: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: rondohondo on February 10, 2013, 01:41:35 PM
C's are currently 6. 5 games behind NYK, and 2.5 games behind Brooklyn .

Knick are currently down 13 to the LAC. If the kincks lose today and c's win they will be 5 and a half behind them.

So what's the chance the c's could catch them ?

I think there is a good chance, knicks are so predictable on offense , and aren't great on defense .
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 10, 2013, 01:42:04 PM
There's a chance, but it's OK if we don't.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 10, 2013, 01:52:08 PM
There's a chance, but it's OK if we don't.

I'm more concerned about moving up playoff seeds first and foremost. I do not want the 8th seed.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: hpantazo on February 10, 2013, 01:53:06 PM
There's a chance, but it's OK if we don't.

I'm more concerned about moving up playoff seeds first and foremost. I do not want the 8th seed.

I'm hoping for the 4th seed and home court in the 1st round. That's our best case scenario imo.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: dark_lord on February 10, 2013, 01:53:28 PM
of course there is a chance.  there is still a lot of bball left in the season.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 10, 2013, 01:53:50 PM
There's a chance, but it's OK if we don't.

I'm more concerned about moving up playoff seeds first and foremost. I do not want the 8th seed.

I'm hoping for the 4th seed and home court in the 1st round. That's our best case scenario imo.

Because we're way better at home!
Denver also wants top-4 seed badly... they're 22-3 at home and really want the advantage :D
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: hpantazo on February 10, 2013, 02:11:41 PM
There's a chance, but it's OK if we don't.

I'm more concerned about moving up playoff seeds first and foremost. I do not want the 8th seed.

I'm hoping for the 4th seed and home court in the 1st round. That's our best case scenario imo.

Because we're way better at home!
Denver also wants top-4 seed badly... they're 22-3 at home and really want the advantage :D

I'd love to see denver make some noise for once in the playoffs. They seem to sputter out every year and/or luck out with a really tough 1st round opponent.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: LooseCannon on February 10, 2013, 02:17:49 PM
Denver is the very definition of a team on the treadmill of mediocrity.  They've lost in the first round of the playoffs 8 out of 9 seasons.  Their regular season record gets inflated a bit because the high altitude gives them a home court advantage.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 10, 2013, 02:19:12 PM
Denver is the very definition of a team on the treadmill of mediocrity.  They've lost in the first round of the playoffs 8 out of 9 seasons.  Their regular season record gets inflated a bit because the high altitude gives them a home court advantage.

Wouldn't that mean if they made the playoffs as a top-4 team with home-court they would assuredly get past round 1??

They played tough against the Lakers last year and have a great chance!
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: gpap on February 10, 2013, 02:36:27 PM
I think so.

I have a very hard time picturing either the Knicks or Nets winning our division.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: CroCorvus on February 10, 2013, 02:41:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA


 :)
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: LooseCannon on February 10, 2013, 02:57:19 PM
Denver is the very definition of a team on the treadmill of mediocrity.  They've lost in the first round of the playoffs 8 out of 9 seasons.  Their regular season record gets inflated a bit because the high altitude gives them a home court advantage.

Wouldn't that mean if they made the playoffs as a top-4 team with home-court they would assuredly get past round 1??

I wouldn't say assuredly, because George Karl is the kind of coach who can be out-coached, but the Nuggets do have the strongest HCA in the regular season.  Unlike some other teams, I think the Nuggets would have to win their division to be considered a legitimate title contender with their current coach/roster.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: LooseCannon on February 10, 2013, 02:58:00 PM
I think so.

I have a very hard time picturing either the Knicks or Nets winning our division.

To put it another way, I have a very easy time picturing both those teams choking down the stretch.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: cletus1985 on February 10, 2013, 03:11:50 PM
That would be perfect if we did. My dream playoff bracket (within reality) would be:

1. Miami
2.Indiana
3.Boston
4.New York
5. Chicago (Rose back at 100%)
6.Brooklyn
7. Atlanta or Milwaukee (doesn't make much difference)
8. Philadelphia ( they sneak in and Bynum is healthy)

If this happened we could realistically get to the ECF. Indiana would definitely be a tough series in the 2nd round but i think we could take them in a 7 game series. Brooklyn isn't the easiest out either, but i have confidence we win that series.

Chicago playing New York is a tough series, but i believe Chicago takes it. NY having home court just makes it harder for them. Miami matching up with Philadelphia would be perfect if Bynum is able to go, they have no one to contain him and Philadelphia would make their life miserable. Then in the 2nd round Chicago and Miami battle it out and we all know that's gonna be a hard fought series wearing both teams down.

I take my chances with Boston playing either of them after their first two rounds. I know it's a long shot for the chips to fall this way, but also is a possibility and a guy can dream right?
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: ManUp on February 10, 2013, 03:24:33 PM
By the numbers yes, realistically no.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 10, 2013, 03:26:05 PM
Knicks lose. Again.

Let the Nets lose. They are borrringgg! Boring-est team in the league
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: rondohondo on February 10, 2013, 03:26:09 PM
clips beat the knicks, now if c's win tonight they are only 5.5 games back.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 10, 2013, 03:26:39 PM
clips beat the knicks, now if c's win tonight they are only 5.5 games back.

Please win tonight :D
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: Who on February 10, 2013, 03:31:33 PM
I don't think they will. I expect New York to play at an equal or slightly superior win-pace than the Celtics for the rest of the season.

Making up 5 games would be a tall task.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 10, 2013, 03:32:13 PM
I don't think they will. I expect New York to play at an equal or slightly superior win-pace than the Celtics for the rest of the season.

Making up 5 games would be a tall task.

Depends on injuries... one of us is gonna have a big injury for sure.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: scaryjerry on February 10, 2013, 03:37:27 PM
Who cares?
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 10, 2013, 03:42:59 PM
Who cares?

We want home court advantage.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: scaryjerry on February 10, 2013, 03:58:25 PM
Who cares?

We want home court advantage.

yeah against the heat would be nice...which isn't happening..otherwise it doesn't matter
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: GreenEnvy on February 10, 2013, 04:44:17 PM
I don't think they will. I expect New York to play at an equal or slightly superior win-pace than the Celtics for the rest of the season.

Making up 5 games would be a tall task.

Well the Knicks have been a ~.500 team since their hot start. Now that their defense has returned to normal and they aren't drilling threes at a record clip, they are beatable. If they continue to play .500-.600 ball, and we finish the season winning .600-.700 of our games, things can get interesting.

But I personally think I'd like the Heat earlier if possible. Maybe not the 1/8 matchup, because that would involve a lot of losing from here on out. Getting them earlier rather than ECF gives them less chance to get their plays together and energy up if they plan to coast during the season. Plus, the Knicks live-and-die-by-the-three style will not last three rounds. Longer you wait to play them, less likely you even have to. That would leave only Chicago as a real threat and Indy as a considerable one. Brooklyn will probably finish with a low seed and get dismissed early.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: staticcc on February 10, 2013, 04:48:11 PM
Just because of this thread, we'll probably lose  ;D
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 10, 2013, 09:41:00 PM
Just because of this thread, we'll probably lose  ;D

nope. we won!  :P
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 10, 2013, 10:07:37 PM
Sure, it be great if we could catch the Nets and Knicks.  I'm not expecting us to be able to catch them both, though.

As long as the Celtics can avoid seeds 4,5 & 8 (thus avoiding Mia until the ECF) they probably could have a decent shot at making it back to the ECF.  The East just seems so weak other than Miami.

Chicago is the "x-factor" in everything, however.  If Rose comes back after the All-Star break and can play at 80-90% of what he was, Chicago could be a really dangerous team.  Even for Miami.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: gpap on February 10, 2013, 10:23:44 PM
I think so.

I have a very hard time picturing either the Knicks or Nets winning our division.

To put it another way, I have a very easy time picturing both those teams choking down the stretch.

Same here
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: cletus1985 on February 10, 2013, 10:29:50 PM
I think so.

I have a very hard time picturing either the Knicks or Nets winning our division.

To put it another way, I have a very easy time picturing both those teams choking down the stretch.

I'm pretty confident we pass the Nets and after looking at the rest of our schedule and the Knicks schedule I think we very well could pass them too, especially if we beat them in our next 2 meetings.
Title: Re: Can the C's still win the Atlantic Division?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 10, 2013, 10:32:42 PM
I think so.

I have a very hard time picturing either the Knicks or Nets winning our division.

To put it another way, I have a very easy time picturing both those teams choking down the stretch.

Same here

Just like Philly last year!