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Title: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: crownontherocks on February 08, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
The Boston Celtics announced today that they have assigned Fab Melo to their NBA Development League affiliate, the Maine Red Claws.
Title: Re: Celtics announced today that they have assigned Fab Melo to their D League
Post by: scaryjerry on February 08, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
Where he belongs...worst player I've seen in quite some time on an NBA court last night
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: saltlover on February 08, 2013, 05:59:15 PM
He was advertised as raw.  I don't think Danny had any expectations when Fab was drafted that he'd be at all useful this year.  Hopefully next year, but I wouldn't be surprised if not until 2014-2015.
Title: Re: Celtics announced today that they have assigned Fab Melo to their D League
Post by: Redz on February 08, 2013, 06:00:57 PM
Where he belongs...worst player I've seen in quite some time on an NBA court last night
Never mind "not ready for prime time", he's not ready for garbage time.

Keep working at it Fab.
Title: Re: Celtics announced today that they have assigned Fab Melo to their D League
Post by: rondohondo on February 08, 2013, 06:02:29 PM
Where he belongs...worst player I've seen in quite some time on an NBA court last night

lol tp, I don't see him as an nba player ever. He's so goofy and slow .
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: ScottHow on February 08, 2013, 06:04:09 PM
I was one of those that said to put him in because he can't be worse than Collins, but [dang] he really is, lol
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: droopdog7 on February 08, 2013, 06:06:07 PM
I am not going to call the kid a bust right now.  Afterall, we should all learn from what happened with Avery.  But, as I mentioned to all those clamoring for him over Collins, the kid is defintely worse than Collins right now.  Shoot, he could be the worst player in the league at this very moment.  Uh, at least he was when he was on the team.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 08, 2013, 06:28:48 PM
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I am not going to call the kid a bust right now.  Afterall, we should all learn from what happened with Avery.  But, as I mentioned to all those clamoring for him over Collins, the kid is defintely worse than Collins right now.  Shoot, he could be the worst player in the league at this very moment.  Uh, at least he was when he was on the team.

He was not a good college player at all.  he has size and nice defensive instincts.  He just needs to improve his post moves, hands ( rebounds will come with this) and his strength level.  Trouble is, he is not even the best player on the red claws.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: Birdman on February 08, 2013, 06:44:35 PM
I said before the draft i hope the C's dont draft him but they did. I scream nooooooo!!! Should have drafted PJ3 or anyone else
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: kgainez on February 08, 2013, 06:52:32 PM
I think this means a bigger something is in the works. Send him back cuz we won't need him. Maybe we've picked up Amundson or something.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: mr. dee on February 08, 2013, 06:53:06 PM
People really judge quickly... smh. How many years did it take for Perk to develop?

And Avery Bradley? I also thought he sucked during his first season and the his early sophomore season.

Jeff Green? The scapegoat of this blog because of his 9m contract?

Give the big guy a rest. It's not easy to develop a raw big guy. It will take time. If he still doesn't develop in a year or two, then it's safe to say that he is a bust.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: scaryjerry on February 08, 2013, 06:56:22 PM
People really judge quickly... smh. How many years did it take for Perk to develop?

And Avery Bradley? I also thought he sucked during his first season and the his early sophomore season.

Jeff Green? The scapegoat of this blog because of his 9m contract?

Give the big guy a rest. It's not easy to develop a raw big guy. It will take time. If he still doesn't develop in a year or two, then it's safe to say that he is a bust.


Didn't write him off completely...he just belongs in the d league for now...he looked awful...worse then anyone you mentioned ever has.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: mr. dee on February 08, 2013, 06:59:38 PM
I'm not against sending him back to d-league. In fact, i'm all for it. If he can't sniff any minutes in the main league besides garbage time, then sending him back is the best decision. I think he will get his time on this team next season or two.

Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 08, 2013, 07:00:09 PM
he is cheap to develope. Perkins sucked too ......gonna have to give Fab time to develop.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: quidinqui33 on February 08, 2013, 07:18:21 PM
The thing I have notice with Fab, and I noticed this during the summer league as well is that he jumps for the block after the ball is already in the air because he is going for that homerun swat.  Probably worked for him in college or D-league.

He is a big dude, if he would just jump with the man he is guarding, I think he would get to a lot more balls before they even leave his defenders hands or shortly thereafter.  Hopefully that is something he is working on.  Perk had the whole gathering before he shot issue which I think this is analagous to.  It's a bad habit that needs to be broken and that is better suited for the D-league. 

I think Ainge can find a better option for us this year.  Dang, who would have thought that Darko would be missed so much.  He really is exactly what we need right now!
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: saltlover on February 08, 2013, 07:19:03 PM
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I am not going to call the kid a bust right now.  Afterall, we should all learn from what happened with Avery.  But, as I mentioned to all those clamoring for him over Collins, the kid is defintely worse than Collins right now.  Shoot, he could be the worst player in the league at this very moment.  Uh, at least he was when he was on the team.

He was not a good college player at all.  he has size and nice defensive instincts.  He just needs to improve his post moves, hands ( rebounds will come with this) and his strength level.  Trouble is, he is not even the best player on the red claws.

That would be an overstatement about the lack of his college abilities.  He did get by on pure size and athleticism, but his suspension may have cost Syracuse a championship.  I saw a few Syracuse games in person, and while he wasn't the best player on the court, he was the most dominant, if that makes any sense.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: vinnie on February 08, 2013, 07:21:29 PM
I am not going to pre-judge him, but I was there last night, and he had to be one of the least athletic players I have ever seen in an NBA game. He looked slow and he doesn't even lift his feet of the ground when he runs -- if that is running. I got beaten up in a post on the main page when I wrote this, but he kind of reminded me of Acie Earl. Danny may have found a diamond in the rough and he could turn into a decent player -- or, he could be a draft bust. Worth the chance, I guess.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: colincb on February 08, 2013, 07:23:24 PM
It was all about the upside with Melo aka "The you can't teach size" theory of drafting.

Kid needs tutoring.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 08, 2013, 07:24:54 PM
Give him two years please :P
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: vinnie on February 08, 2013, 07:26:18 PM
Give him two years please :P

I just hope the two years can make him faster and more athletic. He will have much better skills in two years, I am sure, but I don't know how much better of an athlete he will be.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: bfrombleacher on February 08, 2013, 07:32:12 PM
Playing right now for those interested
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: moiso on February 08, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
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I am not going to call the kid a bust right now.  Afterall, we should all learn from what happened with Avery.  But, as I mentioned to all those clamoring for him over Collins, the kid is defintely worse than Collins right now.  Shoot, he could be the worst player in the league at this very moment.  Uh, at least he was when he was on the team.

He was not a good college player at all.  he has size and nice defensive instincts.  He just needs to improve his post moves, hands ( rebounds will come with this) and his strength level.  Trouble is, he is not even the best player on the red claws.
Hands are hands.  Its a physical attribute like quickness or leaping ability.  I don't expect his hands to improve.  And he has zero rebounding instincts.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: JHTruth on February 08, 2013, 07:49:50 PM
Wow people rough on the Fabster.

Realistically he was always going to be a hit or miss guy he was a late first rounder. He's rookie Perkins level right now, needs a ton of work. I honestly think he needs a serious shot of confidence. He would just get owned in the big leagues right now. He was doing great until he got that concussion now he looks clueless but he can get better.

We didn't miss out on anything with PG3 so I'm willing to give him a chance
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 08, 2013, 07:54:43 PM
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Hands are hands.  Its a physical attribute like quickness or leaping ability.  I don't expect his hands to improve.  And he has zero rebounding instincts.

You must only watch sports or only played at a elementary level because hands can be improved vastly with some drills.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: JHTruth on February 08, 2013, 07:56:46 PM
Just remember people were trashing Perk for awhile too, saying he was the next Acie Earl. Patience will be key..
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: celticsleyte on February 08, 2013, 07:57:06 PM
I think his hands can be developed but it will take a while. When you grow up playing soccer you do not develop your hands like a kid growing up playing baseball, basketball, and throwing around a football like most kids in the states. He is behind the curve for his age but seems a decent athlete to my eyes.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: OsirusCeltics on February 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PM
I was one of those that said to put him in because he can't be worse than Collins, but [dang] he really is, lol

Collins looks like Tim Duncan compared to Fab
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: jdz101 on February 08, 2013, 08:43:11 PM
There were some shots that he could have blocked that he just couldn't get to quick enough.

He doesn't even have a nose for where the ball is defensively yet.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: scaryjerry on February 08, 2013, 08:47:44 PM
Wow people rough on the Fabster.

Realistically he was always going to be a hit or miss guy he was a late first rounder. He's rookie Perkins level right now, needs a ton of work. I honestly think he needs a serious shot of confidence. He would just get owned in the big leagues right now. He was doing great until he got that concussion now he looks clueless but he can get better.

We didn't miss out on anything with PG3 so I'm willing to give him a chance


No one is being hard on him? I easily could be much more harsh. idk what else there is to say after seeing him last night.....we're all routing for him to develop but as of now he belongs nowhere near an NBA court
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 08, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
Where he should be
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 08, 2013, 10:06:16 PM
I'm pretty sure Danny is crossing his fingers that he becomes a good enough trade asset. I also think he's a bit p---ed that his few minutes in the NBA so far probably tarnished his trade value in respect to the "promise" of what he was showing in the NBDL.

If he makes himself into a player, that'd be great, but I'm not holding my breath.

I'm aware that he's a project and very raw, but his clumsiness really worries me as far as his ability to play the game at a high and effective level.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: tonyto3690 on February 08, 2013, 10:15:17 PM
He looked slower than 39 year old Shaq.

If he ever plays a single meaningful minute I'd be surprised.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 08, 2013, 10:53:33 PM
He looked slower than 39 year old Shaq.

If he ever plays a single meaningful minute I'd be surprised.

Two years is the wait time I think
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: moiso on February 08, 2013, 11:06:45 PM
He looked slower than 39 year old Shaq.

If he ever plays a single meaningful minute I'd be surprised.
I thought he was pretty fast down the court, he just looked incredibly goofy while running.  He looked like he was pumping his neck forward and back because he was trying so hard to go faster.  It was kind of amusing.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: Scottie on February 09, 2013, 03:27:55 AM
It's funny, you look at him on the court and I have trouble imagining he has even played competitive basketball before...at any level.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 09, 2013, 08:14:42 AM
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"promise" of what he was showing in the NBDL.

The whole 6 RPG?   wow!

Guys he supposedly is nursing a hamstring injury.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 09, 2013, 09:40:55 AM
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"promise" of what he was showing in the NBDL.

The whole 6 RPG?   wow!

Guys he supposedly is nursing a hamstring injury.

More like 6.8 rebounds in 27.4 minutes of play with 3.4 blocks while scoring 11 points a game. For a player that is considered quite raw, that's plenty of promise to go off on.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: OttawaCeltic on February 09, 2013, 10:33:35 AM
People really judge quickly... smh. How many years did it take for Perk to develop?

And Avery Bradley? I also thought he sucked during his first season and the his early sophomore season.

Jeff Green? The scapegoat of this blog because of his 9m contract?

Give the big guy a rest. It's not easy to develop a raw big guy. It will take time. If he still doesn't develop in a year or two, then it's safe to say that he is a bust.
TP
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 09, 2013, 10:44:59 AM
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"promise" of what he was showing in the NBDL.

The whole 6 RPG?   wow!

Guys he supposedly is nursing a hamstring injury.

More like 6.8 rebounds in 27.4 minutes of play with 3.4 blocks while scoring 11 points a game. For a player that is considered quite raw, that's plenty of promise to go off on.

Give him three years or so
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: Chief Macho on February 09, 2013, 10:59:27 AM
been calling this since day one.  doesn't seem to have the coordination for the nba.   reminds me of loren woods.
Title: Expected, appropriate, and still on schedule
Post by: bballee on February 09, 2013, 11:34:12 AM
Only the most wildly optimistic fans expected Melo to contribute to this year's playoff run.  Fab was always a long-term development project.  Danny had two twenties picks--Sullinger was the "battle-ready" immediate help, Melo was the investment in the future.  He's three months into a lengthy process that has already been set back by injuries.  Bringing him up for a taste and a reality check was shrewd, keeping him longer would only hamper his development.  He got his little slice of the roaring crowd, got a three-minute video of how far he has to go, didn't stay long enough to crush his hope, and has returned to his training ground.  I would hope/expect another sip of reality when the D-league winds down--maybe enough progress to provide a then/now tease to inspire continued development work.  A year-round program, a better showing in the 2013 Summer League play, some bright moments in training camp, and some actual polish in next years' D-league, perhaps weekly (or at least monthly) cameo appearances with the parent club, and maybe some real (non-garbage-time) 5-minute runs next spring.  If that is at all accurate as a timetable, then he is more or less on schedule in this lengthy development process.  Or for the Chicken-Little crowd--maybe the sky is falling.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: Tr1boy on February 09, 2013, 11:45:21 AM
When was the last project that ever amounted to anything? Last one I can think of is deandre Jordan ,but he was picked in the 2nd round.danny should of traded the pick, the 2nd and next years 2nd for 18th (Zeller)
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: cman88 on February 09, 2013, 11:53:19 AM
When was the last project that ever amounted to anything? Last one I can think of is deandre Jordan ,but he was picked in the 2nd round.danny should of traded the pick, the 2nd and next years 2nd for 18th (Zeller)

avery bradley was incredibly raw his rookie year. and looked just as bad in garbage time....and he has been able to develop into a solid role-player.

Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: jdz101 on March 09, 2013, 08:15:26 AM
Fab has had 19 blocks in his past 3 red claws games.

Leads the NBDL in blocks per game now.
Title: Re: Fab Melo back to the maine red claws
Post by: clover on March 09, 2013, 08:53:57 AM
When was the last project that ever amounted to anything? Last one I can think of is deandre Jordan ,but he was picked in the 2nd round.danny should of traded the pick, the 2nd and next years 2nd for 18th (Zeller)

avery bradley was incredibly raw his rookie year. and looked just as bad in garbage time....and he has been able to develop into a solid role-player.

Bradley's rawness was of a different variety.  He always had the athleticism and already knew how to play, he was just too hyped and nervous and unadjusted to the speed of the NBA.

Melo will always be a much slower player, but his polish will come from knowing on a deeper level when he's supposed to be where.  That he should be able to learn.