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Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: saltlover on February 08, 2013, 09:46:41 AM
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We played well last night, but they had no defense and couldn't take care of the ball on offense. Ugly!
Next year could be just as bad, and they have few options to get better. Their committed salary for five players, plus the non-guaranteed portion of Chris Duhon's contract, is already over $68 mil. And that's not including MWP's opt-out, which I have no idea if he'll exercise (I don't think it makes sense to, but sense and Metta World Peace don't go together.) So they will have no options to add to this horrific team through free agency other than the tax-payer mid-level and minimum contracts, since sign-and-trades are no longer available to taxpayers.
And then there's their luxury tax situation. This year's tax rate isn't terrible, since it's a dollar-for-dollar tax above the line, but they're still paying about $30 million in tax. In other words, this year's lottery team will have cost $130 million for players, and a lot more for "coaching." Assuming that they do sign Dwight to his max deal (what other choice do they have, really?), MWP stays, they pick up Meeks' option, and they fill the rest of the roster through the taxpayer mid-level and minimum contracts, next year's salaries will be approximately $106 million. Even if there's a decent jump in the luxury tax line, say to $76 million from this year's $70, their tax bill will be enormous -- $85 million! They could pay close to $200 million for a team that might aspire to do no more than make the playoffs. And they have one draft pick (1st or 2nd round) the next three drafts!
While I'm disappointed in how this season has gone, at least we're not completely hamstrung like the Lakers. What a mess they've created!
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Best part of this NBA season.
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I enjoy watching them lose more than watching us win.
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#1 - Fire D'Antoni
They'll pick up 10 extra wins right there.
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#1 - Fire D'Antoni
They'll pick up 10 extra wins right there.
I'd be shocked if they didn't give him till at least partially through next season.
But yeah D'Antoni is not looking good at all.
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Yes, they are.
Be the first to admit that I didn't see this coming, either.
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Sure the Lakers are a mess and yes they are dealing with significant injuries, but they also had won 6 of 7 and were playing well.
I am not gonna cry for them. They got beat and we beat them good.
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our guys played with energy and purpose.
lakers looked beaten ,other than Nash and Kobe......they had nothing for the Rondoless C's.
we beat them like a rented mule.
I like the way when we got them......we didn't let up.........
we stepped on their throats and destroyed them.
good chance Bobcats beat LA too
this is what happens when you built on stars instead of chemistry,
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Haven't you heard? They're getting lebron in 2014
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Haven't you heard? They're getting lebron in 2014
Don't even joke about such things!
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Haven't you heard? They're getting lebron in 2014
Don't even joke about such things!
I wouldn't be too surprised
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Haven't you heard? They're getting lebron in 2014
Don't even joke about such things!
I wouldn't be too surprised
I wouldn't either. Convincing LeBron to come to LA is probably the only thing that saves them from years of mediocre-at-best seasons if Kobe is done after next year. They have to put on the full court press if he opts out of Miami.
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They're better with pau and no Dwight..fact!
But yeah......what a disaster. They were better off with mike brown then dantoni
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#1 - Fire D'Antoni
They'll pick up 10 extra wins right there.
Yep. One of the worst coaches in the league imo
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#1 - Fire D'Antoni
They'll pick up 10 extra wins right there.
I'd be shocked if they didn't give him till at least partially through next season.
But yeah D'Antoni is not looking good at all.
If they don't improve, I don't think he gets another shot next season. They can't waste the last couple years of Kobe Bryant with a clown for a head coach.
The only way they would fire D'Antoni now, though, is if Phil Jackson had a change of heart and offered to come back for the rest of the season. That would be interesting - just to see if he could get everyone to buy in.
Seems like a ton of blame to be spread around in LA. Seems a shame that Dwight can't do for them what KG does for us; anchor the D and don't worry too much about the touches. He's still going to get a max-contract this summer, but it's amazing how far he's fallen in the public eye just in the past twelve months or so.
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Sure the Lakers are a mess and yes they are dealing with significant injuries, but they also had won 6 of 7 and were playing well.
I am not gonna cry for them. They got beat and we beat them good.
I give much credit to Gasol for those wins, and he is gone.
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#1 - Fire D'Antoni
They'll pick up 10 extra wins right there.
This is their main problem...
He benches Gasol who is arguably (or maybe not a huge argument this season) their second best player. Then he starts giving him the minutes he deserves and they win 6 out of 7...Um, Doy!
The Lakers are a mess and Kobe is p---ed and is just going to continue to play iso ball all season. Howard looks terrible physically and mentally. I cant see any reason why he would sign with the Lakers at this point.
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I cant see any reason why he would sign with the Lakers at this point.
Money talks.
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I cant see any reason why he would sign with the Lakers at this point.
Money talks.
He can get the same $$ in a sign-and-trade, and every team with sufficient cap space will be trying to make that happen.
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I cant see any reason why he would sign with the Lakers at this point.
Money talks.
He can get the same $$ in a sign-and-trade, and every team with sufficient cap space will be trying to make that happen.
I didn't mean merely his basketball contract, although that is part of it. He also has a bigger market for even local endorsement deals, much less national ones, and I'd be shocked if he didn't envision himself in a movie or two. His Q-score (or whatever that absurd Hollywood popularity rating is) may have fallen a bit, but if he's healthy and dominating again for a season, it'll shoot right back up, or at least he thinks it will.
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I really don't think Howard resigns with the Lakers. He didn't want to go there in the first place, and now going through the mess he's going through, with Kobe giving him crap daily, I just don't see it.
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I really don't think Howard resigns with the Lakers. He didn't want to go there in the first place, and now going through the mess he's going through, with Kobe giving him crap daily, I just don't see it.
The extra 30 million is an awful lot to turn down, especially when you've just had two injury ravanged years.
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I really don't think Howard resigns with the Lakers. He didn't want to go there in the first place, and now going through the mess he's going through, with Kobe giving him crap daily, I just don't see it.
The extra 30 million is an awful lot to turn down, especially when you've just had two injury ravanged years.
I think if he didn't sign with LA they would find a way to sign-and-trade him - most likely scenario is the Lopez + filler deal with Brooklyn that Orlando turned down.
But I'm not really up on the new CBA so I'm not sure if that kind of move is doable these days.
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I really don't think Howard resigns with the Lakers. He didn't want to go there in the first place, and now going through the mess he's going through, with Kobe giving him crap daily, I just don't see it.
The extra 30 million is an awful lot to turn down, especially when you've just had two injury ravanged years.
I think if he didn't sign with LA they would find a way to sign-and-trade him - most likely scenario is the Lopez + filler deal with Brooklyn that Orlando turned down.
But I'm not really up on the new CBA so I'm not sure if that kind of move is doable these days.
If you're over the tax line you can't sign and trade anymore? There was some restriction like that I thought.
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I really don't think Howard resigns with the Lakers. He didn't want to go there in the first place, and now going through the mess he's going through, with Kobe giving him crap daily, I just don't see it.
The extra 30 million is an awful lot to turn down, especially when you've just had two injury ravanged years.
I think if he didn't sign with LA they would find a way to sign-and-trade him - most likely scenario is the Lopez + filler deal with Brooklyn that Orlando turned down.
But I'm not really up on the new CBA so I'm not sure if that kind of move is doable these days.
If you're over the tax line you can't sign and trade anymore? There was some restriction like that I thought.
Yeah, that sounds familiar. Makes sense.
If Dwight wants the money but doesn't want to play for LA he can always fall back on the sign-and-whine-and-trade move that worked in Orlando.
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This seaon (so far) cannot be doing anything good for Dwight's value. Of course he is still seen as the top C in the league, but I think he may be seen as much more of a gamble than he used to be. The gamble being that he is a guy to build a franchise around.
I'm not positive the Nets would rather have DH than Brooke Lopez.
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Best part of this NBA season.
I agree. When Rondo went down I was looking forward to seeing Sully and Bradley develop. Now it's see Bradley develop and the Lakers implode.
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Dwight admitts he has no feeling in his legs at times during a game even........people this is not good,
DH lives or dies by this super human strength and athletic abilities,,,,,,,,,,,he has low skills otherwise and very very low IQ.
I don't think Howard will ever be the monster he was in Orlando .........he may need another operation on his back and 1-2 years of patient work to heal properly.
we know for the lakers there is no tomorrow when it comes to NBA
the Lakers will trade. him for sure.....they don't have enough Kobe years. left to wait out Howard's
recovery.
oh........now they are setting their sights on K.Love........it never ends........never about chemistry...just about TV money with them.
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Did they run an offensive play all night? It was literally just Kobe iso, him posting up whoever was on him even if he was 15 feet or more from the hoop.
It was embarrassing. This is a team with no chemistry.
I actually thought the D'Antoni hire was a smart one because his scheme could work with the personnel, but they aren't even running his offense out there. I have no idea what's going on.
At the Garden last night I saw a lot of either Kobe or Dwight jerseys, and I hope those Lakers fans have another jersey besides the Dwight one because he's out of there this offseason.
I'm sure Dwight and D'Antoni will be scape goated and they deserve blame, but from what I saw last night, Kobe does as well. Playing so selfishly out there.
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This all couldnt be happening to a nicer fan base
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Did they run an offensive play all night? It was literally just Kobe iso, him posting up whoever was on him even if he was 15 feet or more from the hoop.
Bradley blew up most of the plays they tried to initiate with Nash handling by that time in the game when Nash started to tire.
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Haven't you heard? They're getting lebron in 2014
Wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
The League, ie Stern, wants strong teams in LA and NYC for marketing reasons and will do things behind the scenes to ensure that happens. Yes, the Clippers are strong, but they aren't the Lakers, so expect more dumb deals by GM's of other teams and other strange occurrences over the next couple of years.
And yes, I'm cynical. ;)
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Haven't you heard? They're getting lebron in 2014
Wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
The League, ie Stern, wants strong teams in LA and NYC for marketing reasons and will do things behind the scenes to ensure that happens. Yes, the Clippers are strong, but they aren't the Lakers, so expect more dumb deals by GM's of other teams and other strange occurrences over the next couple of years.
And yes, I'm cynical. ;)
The only thing preventing Stern from helping to make this happen is that he's retiring next year, before LeBron hits free agency. Otherwise, yes.