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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: AB_Celtic on February 07, 2013, 10:30:38 PM

Title: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His spot in the rotation
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 07, 2013, 10:30:38 PM
As fun as it was to see him tonight, the kid is not ready. I think having him ride the bench with us is doing nothing for his development. Time to send him back down and sign someone else to take his spot in the rotation.

Someone who could actually give us some meaningful minutes.
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His roster spot
Post by: Fafnir on February 07, 2013, 10:31:57 PM
That's not how the d-league works. To free up his roster spot we'd have to waive him, another team would be free to sign him then. Another team would take him on as a project certainly. Especially since it wouldn't be for guaranteed money.
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His roster spot
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 07, 2013, 10:33:09 PM
That's not how the d-league works. To free up his roster spot we'd have to waive him, another team would be free to sign him then. Another team would take him on as a project certainly. Especially since it wouldn't be for guaranteed money.

Sorry, I guess I was unclear. I'm not so much concerned with his roster spot as his spot in the rotation. I know sending him down keeps him on the roster.

We need someone taking his spot in the rotation.
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His roster spot
Post by: rondohondo on February 07, 2013, 10:34:30 PM
I don't see the talent everyone keeps talking about, he looks like a slow lumbering big man with no skill at all. On defense it's like he lets the opponent get all the way to the rim and then he jumps like 2 seconds later to try and block it, was really funny to watch.
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His roster spot
Post by: LooseCannon on February 07, 2013, 10:36:38 PM
We need someone taking his spot in the rotation.

His spot in the rotation is garbage minutes.  In playing time in a close game that mattered, you'd probably see Pierce or Green playing as a Nellyball 5 with four guards before you saw Fab Melo in the game.
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His spot in the rotation
Post by: Rtpas11 on February 07, 2013, 10:41:51 PM
If anyone feels like how Melo feels you'll play sucky... Its extremely difficult to practice with greats, then watch them play for 40 minutes, then your ask to go out there & play at a high level for 5 minutes... not happening.

He' anxious & excited, plus the game is moving a 100 miles an hour to him. He started this way in the D-League also. A few more games & heavey minutes in the D-League played he got more comfortable & even dominant. It'll be hard to mimic that playing limited minutes on a higher level.

with all of this said... we definitely need to sign a big.. Josh Boone is available via D-League & he's not playing too bad.
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His spot in the rotation
Post by: Evantime34 on February 07, 2013, 10:51:14 PM
I agree that Fab should be in the D-league. He looks completely lost out there. His feel for the game is pretty much zero. I think he will contribute eventually for us but not for another 2-3 years.
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His spot in the rotation
Post by: LooseCannon on February 07, 2013, 11:04:50 PM
He seemed to be trying to run around and create the illusion of action like a fatter, shorn Mikki Moore.  Will this be the end of posters saying that giving Fab Melo minutes right now can't possibly make the team worse than giving those minutes to Collins or are there still people who say Melo is a short-term upgrade?
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His spot in the rotation
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 07, 2013, 11:06:41 PM
ive seen trade talks about avery last season
seen lee trade talks this year
give melo minutes and let him find his role
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His roster spot
Post by: Fafnir on February 07, 2013, 11:09:56 PM
We need someone taking his spot in the rotation.

His spot in the rotation is garbage minutes.  In playing time in a close game that mattered, you'd probably see Pierce or Green playing as a Nellyball 5 with four guards before you saw Fab Melo in the game.
We've already seen Doc do that!
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His spot in the rotation
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 07, 2013, 11:11:12 PM
ive seen trade talks about avery last season
seen lee trade talks this year
give melo minutes and let him find his role

Not yet, no thanks
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His spot in the rotation
Post by: ScottHow on February 07, 2013, 11:12:35 PM
I'm worried he's gonna fall when he runs up and down the court. So awkward and just doesn't look natural.
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His roster spot
Post by: mmmmm on February 07, 2013, 11:33:34 PM
That's not how the d-league works. To free up his roster spot we'd have to waive him, another team would be free to sign him then. Another team would take him on as a project certainly. Especially since it wouldn't be for guaranteed money.

I'm not sure what you are saying here.

If we wanted him off the roster to free his spot - sure, we'd have to waive him.

But we don't need to do that to send him to the D-league.   The new CBA allows teams to send guys in their first 2 years back & forth to the D-League unlimited times.

And there is no need to waive him for his roster spot anyway as we currently only have 13 players on the roster - we have 2 open roster spots.
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His roster spot
Post by: Fafnir on February 07, 2013, 11:35:22 PM
That's not how the d-league works. To free up his roster spot we'd have to waive him, another team would be free to sign him then. Another team would take him on as a project certainly. Especially since it wouldn't be for guaranteed money.

I'm not sure what you are saying here.

If we wanted him off the roster to free his spot - sure, we'd have to waive him.

But we don't need to do that to send him to the D-league.   The new CBA allows teams to send guys in their first 2 years back & forth to the D-League unlimited times.

And there is no need to waive him for his roster spot anyway as we currently only have 13 players on the roster - we have 2 open roster spots.
OP said the C's get another player for his roster spot before an edit to clarify what he meant.
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His spot in the rotation
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 07, 2013, 11:47:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YFGjj1v.png)
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His spot in the rotation
Post by: JHTruth on February 07, 2013, 11:56:06 PM
Melo is the type of guy that just needs to build a little confidence and he'll be fine. HE was horrible in the D LEague and then had a good game and never let up. Give the guy a chance..
Title: Re: Melo -> Red Claws, FA Big -> His roster spot
Post by: mmmmm on February 08, 2013, 12:32:41 AM
That's not how the d-league works. To free up his roster spot we'd have to waive him, another team would be free to sign him then. Another team would take him on as a project certainly. Especially since it wouldn't be for guaranteed money.

I'm not sure what you are saying here.

If we wanted him off the roster to free his spot - sure, we'd have to waive him.

But we don't need to do that to send him to the D-league.   The new CBA allows teams to send guys in their first 2 years back & forth to the D-League unlimited times.

And there is no need to waive him for his roster spot anyway as we currently only have 13 players on the roster - we have 2 open roster spots.
OP said the C's get another player for his roster spot before an edit to clarify what he meant.

Oh - okay.   'Wuz confuzed for a moment!   (You normally make a lot more sense than that seemed!)