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Title: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: crownontherocks on February 07, 2013, 12:33:54 PM
Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save #lakers "This is my career. Nobody else is going to take care of me."
GwashNBAGlobe


"I want to play," Howard said after shootaround Thursday in Boston. "I mean, why wouldn't I want to play? But, at the same time, this is my career, this is my future, this is my life. I can't leave that up to anybody else because nobody else is going to take care of me. So, if people are p---ed off that I don't play or if I do play, whatever it may be, so what? This is my career. If I go down, then what? Everybody's life is going to go on. I don't want to have another summer where I'm rehabbing and trying to get healthy again. I want to come back and have another great year. That's what I want to do." Howard is considered a gametime decision for the Celtics game. 13 minutes ago


Is that a shot at kobe? When kobe asked him to play through the pain?
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Who on February 07, 2013, 12:35:36 PM
Good decision. Too young. Too much basketball left in him for Dwight Howard to risk the long term well-being of his career.

Kobe should keep his mouth shut. Dwight's decision to make.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save #lakers
Post by: Kane3387 on February 07, 2013, 12:36:47 PM
Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save #lakers "This is my career. Nobody else is going to take care of me."

I agree.

He needs to sit out the rest of the season though if he is serious about his health. You shouldn't be playing NBA basketball if you are unable to sit down without feeling nerve pain.

Look at Peyton Manning. Nerve issues have robbed him of some arm strength.

Howard needs both his legs. He is jeopardizing his career right now if he continues to play.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 07, 2013, 12:37:02 PM
I bet this went over like a lead ballon with the Faker fans.......

he should tell this to Kobe's face

and smile really big at the same time
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Fafnir on February 07, 2013, 12:39:42 PM
Good decision. Too young. Too much basketball left in him for Dwight Howard to risk the long term well-being of his career.

Kobe should keep his mouth shut. Dwight's decision to make.
Yeah absolutely.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: LooseCannon on February 07, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
Kobe is on the record as saying that he refuses to try to draw charges because he doesn't want to have a messed-up back like Larry Bird.  It would be hypocritical if Kobe were to suggest that another player should ignore similar long-term health considerations.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 07, 2013, 12:40:27 PM
maybe now is the time to call Mitchy and offer Collins for Dwight. ?

just trying to help is all.   >
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: crownontherocks on February 07, 2013, 12:41:23 PM
Dwight on perceived pressure from Kobe to play: "He's not a doctor. I'm not a doctor,"
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 07, 2013, 12:43:13 PM
Can't be mad at him for that. His life his health.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: acieEarl on February 07, 2013, 12:43:51 PM
Highly enjoying this Laker season.

I was sure Howard was a lock to resign with LA, now I think he's counting the days till he can leave. Keep it up Kobe. Your words might screw up Howard for the rest of his career.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 07, 2013, 12:48:26 PM
if Kobe was actually stupid enough to tell Dwight this............ that probably seals the deal  in Dwight's mind about should I stay or should I go.


Lakers fans all dying to have a player that never wanted to be there to begin with, are getting what they deserve.

Dwight's  health decision s are none of Kobe's business.

Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Fafnir on February 07, 2013, 12:49:41 PM
if Kobe was actually stupid enough to tell Dwight this............ that probably seals the deal  in Dwight's mind about should I stay or should I go.


Lakers fans all dying to have a player that never wanted to be there to begin with, are getting what they deserve.

Dwight's  health decision s are none of Kobe's business.
He didn't tell Dwight it, he told the entire world via press conference.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Finkelskyhook on February 07, 2013, 12:56:09 PM
I have no idea how anybody couldn't see this team as the train wreck it'd be with the cast of characters they constructed.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: crownontherocks on February 07, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
Dwight on Kobe pressing him to play: "That's his opinion, that's it. He's not a doctor, I'm not a doctor. That's his opinion."

Nash on Dwight: "I think everyone has got to play through some pain in this league ..."


Kobe and now nash saying for dwight to play
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: MBunge on February 07, 2013, 01:16:33 PM
Dwight on Kobe pressing him to play: "That's his opinion, that's it. He's not a doctor, I'm not a doctor. That's his opinion."

Nash on Dwight: "I think everyone has got to play through some pain in this league ..."


Kobe and now nash saying for dwight to play

I know Nash wants that ring, but you can't talk that way about a guy with a legitimate injury.  This ain't a tweaked ankle.

Mike
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save #lakers
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 07, 2013, 01:18:23 PM
Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save #lakers "This is my career. Nobody else is going to take care of me."

I agree.

He needs to sit out the rest of the season though if he is serious about his health. You shouldn't be playing NBA basketball if you are unable to sit down without feeling nerve pain.

Look at Peyton Manning. Nerve issues have robbed him of some arm strength.

Howard needs both his legs. He is jeopardizing his career right now if he continues to play.

Same as Chris Carpenter. He announced that he will not pitch the 2013 season and could retire due to nerve damage.

Absolutely makes sense for Howard to take his time coming back from injury. Same should be said for any major league athlete. 
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: CelticG1 on February 07, 2013, 01:28:50 PM
I really want to give Howard the benefit of the doubt but I can't.

The guy has never seemed to care about winning or care about his teammates and coach. He's been pretty well contained by guys like Perk, Collins, KG (who's about 200 LBS lighter). He tries to block shots put pf bounds instead of retaining possession admiteddly.

Unless we are talking about dwight from a few years ago I don't care who he plays for and would actually be happy if he signed the max for the lakers.

Im just sick of him. Don't play or play you aren't even that good. I mean is anybody worried if he plays tonight against a 37 year old KG and our thin front line?
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Kiorrik on February 07, 2013, 01:31:54 PM
This all seems fairly overblown. I'd like to think Kobe said "c'mon Dwight, you gotta play man", and thus applying some pressure, which makes a lot of sense. Kobe's no doctor indeed, that's why Kobe probably didn't word it as "screw your back and/or any permanent damage, just play dang it!".

I'm also pretty sure Dwight wasn't speaking about Kobe in particular but about Lakers and fans, friends and anyone else that's applying said pressure. He's right to say it, and to make that decision.

But to say this adds to any animosity amongst the Lakers, or that there are any shots at certain people, to me, seems a bit far-fetched.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: JoT on February 07, 2013, 01:35:21 PM
I have a feeling he will not be back in LA after this season. You can tell clear as day that he's not happy.

Also when he told SAS in the interview that his legs were numb while sitting there and that he has nerve issues along with the team not knowing, that was very disturbing to me and let me know he wasn't all the way ready to come back.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: azzenfrost on February 07, 2013, 01:37:34 PM
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@celticsblog @RedsArmy_John @CelticsTown Per @LAIreland (and Antawn Jamison), Dwight's playing tonight. Just heard it on ESPN LA radio.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: CelticG1 on February 07, 2013, 01:38:55 PM
Yeah didn't Kobe say if its short term pain play through ot if its longterm or career threatening don't?

Are we just selectively choosing these quotes.

Kobe and Nash are there every day. Im pretty sure they have a better grasp on Howards injury than a lot of others. Unless people really think they are pressuring Doctors to clear Dwight
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: ManUp on February 07, 2013, 01:40:27 PM
Do whatever hurts the Lakers more Dwight, that's my advice.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Who on February 07, 2013, 01:42:19 PM
Also when he told SAS in the interview that his legs were numb while sitting there and that he has nerve issues along with the team not knowing, that was very disturbing to me and let me know he wasn't all the way ready to come back.
Yeah, that was shocking / disturbing. I hope Dwight can recover from this injury.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 07, 2013, 01:51:28 PM
maybe now is the time to call Mitchy and offer Collins for Dwight. ?

just trying to help is all.   >

 ;D
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: CelticSooner on February 07, 2013, 03:00:15 PM
I have no idea how anybody couldn't see this team as the train wreck it'd be with the cast of characters they constructed.

Yep. Too many egos on that team. One of those happens to be Kobe? Forget about it.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: sofutomygaha on February 07, 2013, 03:13:00 PM
He's totally right... but you'd think he would have learned to shut his mouth by now?
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Kane3387 on February 07, 2013, 03:16:06 PM
Yeah didn't Kobe say if its short term pain play through ot if its longterm or career threatening don't?

Are we just selectively choosing these quotes.

Kobe and Nash are there every day. Im pretty sure they have a better grasp on Howards injury than a lot of others. Unless people really think they are pressuring Doctors to clear Dwight

No one has a grasp on this until they have experienced it. You don't mess around with neurological stuff like this. Before I had surgery I couldn't be in any position that wasn't vertical (standing) or horizontal (laying down).

Sitting was out of the question. My leg felt like it was being stabbed with a knife that was lit on fire. I was in school and had to take notes and tests standing at a podium. Couldn't sit in a desk. Couldn't drive and had to lay down in the back seat of the car because again sitting was out of the question.

What's bad is that this was all before surgery. After surgery I was pain free. Nerve pain gone. The fact his isn't is really troublesome. Means he likely has vertebrae fused soon because another disc is hitting the nerve too and he will need the surgery again on a different part of the back.

Edit: I just talked with my dad. He's had Dwight's surgery and the fusion that is the next step. He said that Dwight might not need another surgery and that it could be his nerve was pinched so long before the surgery that it was damaged. The other alternative is that during surgery the nerve could have been damaged when the doctor moved it to fix the rupture. Nerves can continue to heal for years so that numbness, etc. might eventually go away. He might recover in that regard, but the days of him jumping like he did during All-Star weekend are gone.

It's a horrible thing this guy is having bc there is nothing wrong with his leg at all. Guaranteed his leg is 100 %. His nerve that runs from his spine down his leg is being pinched and as a result it sends messages to his brain telling him his leg hurts. Again it's neurological and a phantom pain.

You could remove his entire leg and he would still feel pain down there. Even when the leg is gone and there is nothing there to feel pain in. It's all about the signals to his brain being compromised.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: OsirusCeltics on February 07, 2013, 03:18:35 PM
Wholeheartedly agree with Dwight
No need to risk a permenant career ending injury to play for a sinking ship
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 07, 2013, 03:28:32 PM
I have no idea how anybody couldn't see this team as the train wreck it'd be with the cast of characters they constructed.

Yep. Too many egos on that team. One of those happens to be Kobe? Forget about it.

Ok, so why am i still worried about them?

They've been winning lately, and a win against out tired Celtics will put them just 2 games under .500.  They have a great shot now of making the playoffs and if things go their way, DH and Pau might be healthy then.   They still worry me. 
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Q_FBE on February 07, 2013, 03:44:10 PM
maybe now is the time to call Mitchy and offer Collins for Dwight. ?

just trying to help is all.   >


You have to throw in the carcusses of Mark Blonut and Gin Taker to make the salaries match !!!
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Kane3387 on February 07, 2013, 03:49:10 PM
I have no idea how anybody couldn't see this team as the train wreck it'd be with the cast of characters they constructed.

Yep. Too many egos on that team. One of those happens to be Kobe? Forget about it.

Ok, so why am i still worried about them?

They've been winning lately, and a win against out tired Celtics will put them just 2 games under .500.  They have a great shot now of making the playoffs and if things go their way, DH and Pau might be healthy then.   They still worry me.

Let's just say they get in. They will be a 7th or 8th seed. They realistically can't catch SA, OKC, LAC, Den, Mem, or GS. As a 7th or 8th seed you're still playing the Spurs or Thunder on the road right off the bat. You're also likely to play one of LAC, OKC/SA (depending who you played in the first round) in the 2nd. Then you play the other of OKC/SA or LAC in the WCF most likely. All on the road. Then more then likely Miami on the road in the Finals.

You really think they could beat the best of the best in 4 straight series all on the road?

I don't. Not with that system, that depth, and what I have seen so far.

I think the Pau injury will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Too many minutes being asked of a very old Kobe and Nash and an unhealthy Howard.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 07, 2013, 03:52:49 PM
I have no idea how anybody couldn't see this team as the train wreck it'd be with the cast of characters they constructed.

Yep. Too many egos on that team. One of those happens to be Kobe? Forget about it.

Ok, so why am i still worried about them?

They've been winning lately, and a win against out tired Celtics will put them just 2 games under .500.  They have a great shot now of making the playoffs and if things go their way, DH and Pau might be healthy then.   They still worry me.

Let's just say they get in. They will be a 7th or 8th seed. They realistically can't catch SA, OKC, LAC, Den, Mem, or GS. As a 7th or 8th seed you're still playing the Spurs or Thunder on the road right off the bat. You're also likely to play one of LAC, OKC/SA (depending who you played in the first round) in the 2nd. Then you play the other of OKC/SA or LAC in the WCF most likely. All on the road. Then more then likely Miami on the road in the Finals.

You really think they could beat the best of the best in 4 straight series all on the road?

I don't. Not with that system, that depth, and what I have seen so far.

I think the Pau injury will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Too many minutes being asked of a very old Kobe and Nash and an unhealthy Howard.

You know just what to say to a neurotic guy.  I appreciate your confidence!  Feeling better.  TP.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Fred Roberts on February 07, 2013, 03:56:29 PM
I love that Kobe is making Dwight miserable this year. All the more reason for Dwight to go elsewhere.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: jdz101 on February 07, 2013, 05:06:40 PM
Talking to a sports science friend of mine; apparently if they keep getting him to play through a torn labrum aswell that can lead to pretty serious shoulder problems.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on February 07, 2013, 05:33:33 PM
Have to agree with Dwight, here.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: CelticG1 on February 07, 2013, 06:43:19 PM
Isn't it pretty clear cut? If doctors clear him than Dwight is being a baby and if They aren't than Kobe needs to shut up. What am I missing?
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Kane3387 on February 07, 2013, 06:44:46 PM
I have no idea how anybody couldn't see this team as the train wreck it'd be with the cast of characters they constructed.

Yep. Too many egos on that team. One of those happens to be Kobe? Forget about it.

Ok, so why am i still worried about them?

They've been winning lately, and a win against out tired Celtics will put them just 2 games under .500.  They have a great shot now of making the playoffs and if things go their way, DH and Pau might be healthy then.   They still worry me.

Let's just say they get in. They will be a 7th or 8th seed. They realistically can't catch SA, OKC, LAC, Den, Mem, or GS. As a 7th or 8th seed you're still playing the Spurs or Thunder on the road right off the bat. You're also likely to play one of LAC, OKC/SA (depending who you played in the first round) in the 2nd. Then you play the other of OKC/SA or LAC in the WCF most likely. All on the road. Then more then likely Miami on the road in the Finals.

You really think they could beat the best of the best in 4 straight series all on the road?

I don't. Not with that system, that depth, and what I have seen so far.

I think the Pau injury will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Too many minutes being asked of a very old Kobe and Nash and an unhealthy Howard.

You know just what to say to a neurotic guy.  I appreciate your confidence!  Feeling better.  TP.

Lol TP
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Birdman on February 07, 2013, 06:45:46 PM
I be shock if Howard resigns with Lakers...i said all along, he will be with Dallas next season  ;D
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Fafnir on February 07, 2013, 11:12:43 PM
D'Antoni just threw Howard under the bus too post game.

What the heck is going on with the Lakers....
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: ScottHow on February 07, 2013, 11:15:04 PM
Awesome, just awesome. Loving the Lakers current state.  :)
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Who on February 07, 2013, 11:16:28 PM
I thought Dwight looked pretty bad tonight. Physically, I mean.

Gave them what he could. Good effort.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 07, 2013, 11:18:17 PM
Peer pressure => Fail game
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: Fafnir on February 07, 2013, 11:18:42 PM
I thought Dwight looked pretty bad tonight. Physically, I mean.

Gave them what he could. Good effort.
Jeff Green went right at him straight on and got an easy layup.

Clearly isn't right physically. I don't get why the organization is being so public about him being cleared to play for a while, needing to play through pain, etc....
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: KGs Knee on February 07, 2013, 11:30:43 PM
I thought Dwight looked pretty bad tonight. Physically, I mean.

Gave them what he could. Good effort.
Jeff Green went right at him straight on and got an easy layup.

Clearly isn't right physically. I don't get why the organization is being so public about him being cleared to play for a while, needing to play through pain, etc....

It is really rather simple.  The people in charge in LA are brain dead morons.  Dr Buss stepping down and turning things over to his son has been awesome (for Celtics fans).
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: crownontherocks on February 07, 2013, 11:35:47 PM
I be shock if Howard resigns with Lakers...i said all along, he will be with Dallas next season  ;D

He could end up in houston
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: JoT on February 07, 2013, 11:41:01 PM
I thought Dwight looked pretty bad tonight. Physically, I mean.

Gave them what he could. Good effort.
Jeff Green went right at him straight on and got an easy layup.

Clearly isn't right physically. I don't get why the organization is being so public about him being cleared to play for a while, needing to play through pain, etc....
This.
I'm not a Laker fan and I'm laughing seeing all of this drama going down, but Dwight does not look right at all. I don't think he should've came back to play unless he truly felt ready because if he has a career ending injury,  then what?
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 07, 2013, 11:42:53 PM
Howard looks terrible physically and doesn't look good mentally either. He hasn't been the same Howard playing for LA and you can just tell he is an unhappy fella.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard says he won't take long-term risk just to return to save lakers
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 07, 2013, 11:44:45 PM
hey Mitchy boy.  the offer of Collins for Howard still stands.........make up your mind....or we'll have to have a first rounder to boot