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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: KG Living Legend on February 07, 2013, 04:33:58 AM
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If the Jazz decided they would rather have Green than Splitter would you do it?
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Thats a better package than what the Spurs are offering.
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If the Jazz decided they would rather have Green than Splitter would you do it?
noooooooooooooooooo
let green show his talent
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Ok, so at the start of the season Green was playing poorly and people wanted to trade him.
Now he's playing well, playing outstanding defense and playing with more effort - so you want to trade him anyway?
No. Make that a HELL no.
Jefferson is as slow as boulder, he can't defend to save his life, and he's not capable of backing up Paul Pierce at SF.
Terry is one of the best clutch scorers of the past decade, has championship experience, and excels in the playoffs.
No chance in hell I'd do this trade.
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Forget about adding a pick, but either way no. Big Al is to slow.
I was thinking more of Rondo for Millsap and a pick. But I'm not sure I would do that either.
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Green defending Lebron is our only shot at beating Miami so I concur with the gentleman who said, "hell no."
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I don't think I'd do it for Big Al, but if they offered Paul Milisap I'd have to jump
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Utah would have no interest.
1) Green's clone (or at least close enough) Williams is already on the team.
2) Both the contracts from SA are in the last year so the team can say "goodbye" next season.
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Green defending Lebron is our only shot at beating Miami so I concur with the gentleman who said, "hell no."
We are not beating Miami in a series, just forget about that please. This blog has become totally unrealistic in the past week lol.
Look we beat 3 very bad teams, the clippers who have been on a slide, and yes we beat Miami at home in double OT. But people need to be realistic.
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If the Jazz decided they would rather have Green than Splitter would you do it?
noooooooooooooooooo
let green show his talent
Agree. I loved Big Al when he was on a rebuilding team but he isnt a winner. He hasnt show what it takes and its too slow, especially on defense. Every team he has gone to has performed worse than years he was there previous, then when he leaves those teams have gotten better. (Boston, Minn).
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Yes
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http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b2a97s8
:D
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Milsap and its a deal
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If the Jazz decided they would rather have Green than Splitter would you do it?
noooooooooooooooooo
let green show his talent
Agree. I loved Big Al when he was on a rebuilding team but he isnt a winner. He hasnt show what it takes and its too slow, especially on defense. Every team he has gone to has performed worse than years he was there previous, then when he leaves those teams have gotten better. (Boston, Minn).
Jefferson team where he is the number one offensive threat is 2 games better then Greens team where he is just a reserve.
Celtics would be so happy to make this trade.
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Comments on thread posts:
1. Jefferson's defense always gets a bad rap. He's really more of a four than a five and has been playing out of position for a lot of his career. Pairing him with KG would allow him to defend better.
2. Is Jefferson really that slow? he scored more than 27% of his points within the first ten seconds of the shot clock, meaning that he has to be scoring on the fast break sometimes.
3. I see Green as being the heir apparent to Pierce, with Pierce nearing the end I think you want to hold onto him.
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Green defending Lebron is our only shot at beating Miami so I concur with the gentleman who said, "hell no."
We are not beating Miami in a series, just forget about that please. This blog has become totally unrealistic in the past week lol.
Look we beat 3 very bad teams, the clippers who have been on a slide, and yes we beat Miami at home in double OT. But people need to be realistic.
Man, people have become such wimps. Oh no, we can't beat the big bad heat even though we just did. It took us two whole OTs to beat them....oh no.
Is there a team we could beat that would provide some evidence to you that we might possibly be able to win a series? We could beat Miami in Miami by 20 and you'd probably still say we'd have no shot against them.
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2. Is Jefferson really that slow? he scored more than 27% of his points within the first ten seconds of the shot clock, meaning that he has to be scoring on the fast break sometimes.
Jefferson gets criticized for being slow on defense, especially on rotations. That may have something to do with effort on defense or his ability to understand defensive schemes and not just physical ability.
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Green defending Lebron is our only shot at beating Miami so I concur with the gentleman who said, "hell no."
We are not beating Miami in a series, just forget about that please. This blog has become totally unrealistic in the past week lol.
Look we beat 3 very bad teams, the clippers who have been on a slide, and yes we beat Miami at home in double OT. But people need to be realistic.
Man, people have become such wimps. Oh no, we can't beat the big bad heat even though we just did. It took us two whole OTs to beat them....oh no.
Is there a team we could beat that would provide some evidence to you that we might possibly be able to win a series? We could beat Miami in Miami by 20 and you'd probably still say we'd have no shot against them.
Listen, beating a team in the regular season means NOTHING come playoff time. Remember when the celtics beat miami like 3 out of 4 times in the regular season just to lose to them in 5 games in the playoffs?
Beating a team once or twice in the regular season is completely different than beating them 4 times in a playoff series. To even use the miami game that we just won as evidence we can beat miami in a playoff series is nothing less than ignorant & idiotic.
It has nothing to do with being a "Wimp". Its about being an educated basketball fan and knowing the celtics beating the heat in a 7 game series is very unlikely. Even before rondo went down it was unlikely. Now its borderline out of the question.
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As much as I have been down on Green for almost all of his time here, he has seemed to have found a role on the team and is fitting in well. Not saying he always plays great, but does seem to offer something we desperately need (ability to defend LeBron/Melo).
Getting Jefferson would be great, but I'm not sure if what we'd lose in Green is made up for in what we'd gain in Jefferson. Probably would be a wash. Then, to lose Terry on top, without having Rondo, is tough.
If it was possible to do a straight Green for Jefferson swap (with a pick added in), I'd probably do it. Alas, money doesn't match and we really don't have anyone making enough to offset the difference that Utah would want (that I'd be comfortable giving up).
Besides, I doubt Utah would do this trade anyway.
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Green defending Lebron is our only shot at beating Miami so I concur with the gentleman who said, "hell no."
We are not beating Miami in a series, just forget about that please. This blog has become totally unrealistic in the past week lol.
Look we beat 3 very bad teams, the clippers who have been on a slide, and yes we beat Miami at home in double OT. But people need to be realistic.
Man, people have become such wimps. Oh no, we can't beat the big bad heat even though we just did. It took us two whole OTs to beat them....oh no.
Is there a team we could beat that would provide some evidence to you that we might possibly be able to win a series? We could beat Miami in Miami by 20 and you'd probably still say we'd have no shot against them.
Listen, beating a team in the regular season means NOTHING come playoff time. Remember when the celtics beat miami like 3 out of 4 times in the regular season just to lose to them in 5 games in the playoffs?
Beating a team once or twice in the regular season is completely different than beating them 4 times in a playoff series. To even use the miami game that we just won as evidence we can beat miami in a playoff series is nothing less than ignorant & idiotic.
It has nothing to do with being a "Wimp". Its about being an educated basketball fan and knowing the celtics beating the heat in a 7 game series is very unlikely. Even before rondo went down it was unlikely. Now its borderline out of the question.
There is no evidence to suggest that us beating Miami is unrealistic or out of the question.
The only season any of Lebron's or Wade's teams beat us convincingly in the playoffs was 2011, and that came only a couple of months after we made the Perkins trade, which killed our team chemistry.
The only other time Miami beat us in the playoffs was last season, and it was hardly one sided. We led the series 3-2 going into game 6, and led for about 3/4 of game 7 before injuries took their toll and our key players just ran out of gas - right at the exact same time as Lebron decided to go into uber-beast mode. Everybody (including Celtics fans) predicted a blowout and expected we'd be knocked out in a 4 game sweep, maybe in 5 games if we were lucky.
We have been at least a match for Miami in the regular season every season since their 'big three' was assembled including this season, where we are currently tied 1-1.
To say you'd favour Miami in a 7 game series is fine, but to say we have no chance at all is rediculous. Historically games played between Miami and Boston have always been physical and hardfought, and as long as we have Bradley, Lee, Pierce and Green and Garnett we pretty much slow down Wade, Lebron and Bosh as well as any team in the league. We have traditionally been weak against teams with big frontcourts, and Miami is not one of those teams.
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Green defending Lebron is our only shot at beating Miami so I concur with the gentleman who said, "hell no."
We are not beating Miami in a series, just forget about that please. This blog has become totally unrealistic in the past week lol.
Look we beat 3 very bad teams, the clippers who have been on a slide, and yes we beat Miami at home in double OT. But people need to be realistic.
Man, people have become such wimps. Oh no, we can't beat the big bad heat even though we just did. It took us two whole OTs to beat them....oh no.
Is there a team we could beat that would provide some evidence to you that we might possibly be able to win a series? We could beat Miami in Miami by 20 and you'd probably still say we'd have no shot against them.
Listen, beating a team in the regular season means NOTHING come playoff time. Remember when the celtics beat miami like 3 out of 4 times in the regular season just to lose to them in 5 games in the playoffs?
Beating a team once or twice in the regular season is completely different than beating them 4 times in a playoff series. To even use the miami game that we just won as evidence we can beat miami in a playoff series is nothing less than ignorant & idiotic.
It has nothing to do with being a "Wimp". Its about being an educated basketball fan and knowing the celtics beating the heat in a 7 game series is very unlikely. Even before rondo went down it was unlikely. Now its borderline out of the question.
There is no evidence to suggest that us beating Miami is unrealistic or out of the question.
The only season any of Lebron's or Wade's teams beat us convincingly in the playoffs was 2011, and that came only a couple of months after we made the Perkins trade, which killed our team chemistry.
The only other time Miami beat us in the playoffs was last season, and it was hardly one sided. We led the series 3-2 going into game 6, and led for about 3/4 of game 7 before injuries took their toll and our key players just ran out of gas - right at the exact same time as Lebron decided to go into uber-beast mode. Everybody (including Celtics fans) predicted a blowout and expected we'd be knocked out in a 4 game sweep, maybe in 5 games if we were lucky.
We have been at least a match for Miami in the regular season every season since their 'big three' was assembled including this season, where we are currently tied 1-1.
To say you'd favour Miami in a 7 game series is fine, but to say we have no chance at all is rediculous. Historically games played between Miami and Boston have always been physical and hardfought, and as long as we have Bradley, Lee, Pierce and Green and Garnett we pretty much slow down Wade, Lebron and Bosh as well as any team in the league. We have traditionally been weak against teams with big frontcourts, and Miami is not one of those teams.
So many ridiculous things in this post and quite frankly I'm done arguing about this. I didn't say we had no chance i said it would be a pipe dream and unrealistic.
The 8th seed has a chance to beat everyone and win the NBA championship but what are the odds. We can just agree to disagree.
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I do this in a heartbeat.
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Sorry but no.
I remember reading at SLCdunk that Al jefferson freaked out when he saw the thickness of the jazz playbook.
Feedback there is he has trouble understanding difficult offensive and defensive schemes. Which is why they cannot thoroughly implement the Flex Offense.
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Green just raced out for a dunk, and then got back for the block as I read this thread...
You can't trade that for a slow center, with out getting a fast back up young SF to back up PP, who can also play a the quick PF with PP.
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You watching this game? or the last 5 for that matter? NO
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Trade Jeff Green for Al No D?
Ridiculous.
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wrong thread
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green's stock just rises every single game. green for faried! ;D
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Green defending Lebron is our only shot at beating Miami so I concur with the gentleman who said, "hell no."
We are not beating Miami in a series, just forget about that please. This blog has become totally unrealistic in the past week lol.
Look we beat 3 very bad teams, the clippers who have been on a slide, and yes we beat Miami at home in double OT. But people need to be realistic.
Man, people have become such wimps. Oh no, we can't beat the big bad heat even though we just did. It took us two whole OTs to beat them....oh no.
Is there a team we could beat that would provide some evidence to you that we might possibly be able to win a series? We could beat Miami in Miami by 20 and you'd probably still say we'd have no shot against them.
Listen, beating a team in the regular season means NOTHING come playoff time. Remember when the celtics beat miami like 3 out of 4 times in the regular season just to lose to them in 5 games in the playoffs?
Beating a team once or twice in the regular season is completely different than beating them 4 times in a playoff series. To even use the miami game that we just won as evidence we can beat miami in a playoff series is nothing less than ignorant & idiotic.
It has nothing to do with being a "Wimp". Its about being an educated basketball fan and knowing the celtics beating the heat in a 7 game series is very unlikely. Even before rondo went down it was unlikely. Now its borderline out of the question.
There is no evidence to suggest that us beating Miami is unrealistic or out of the question.
The only season any of Lebron's or Wade's teams beat us convincingly in the playoffs was 2011, and that came only a couple of months after we made the Perkins trade, which killed our team chemistry.
The only other time Miami beat us in the playoffs was last season, and it was hardly one sided. We led the series 3-2 going into game 6, and led for about 3/4 of game 7 before injuries took their toll and our key players just ran out of gas - right at the exact same time as Lebron decided to go into uber-beast mode. Everybody (including Celtics fans) predicted a blowout and expected we'd be knocked out in a 4 game sweep, maybe in 5 games if we were lucky.
We have been at least a match for Miami in the regular season every season since their 'big three' was assembled including this season, where we are currently tied 1-1.
To say you'd favour Miami in a 7 game series is fine, but to say we have no chance at all is rediculous. Historically games played between Miami and Boston have always been physical and hardfought, and as long as we have Bradley, Lee, Pierce and Green and Garnett we pretty much slow down Wade, Lebron and Bosh as well as any team in the league. We have traditionally been weak against teams with big frontcourts, and Miami is not one of those teams.
So many ridiculous things in this post and quite frankly I'm done arguing about this. I didn't say we had no chance i said it would be a pipe dream and unrealistic.
The 8th seed has a chance to beat everyone and win the NBA championship but what are the odds. We can just agree to disagree.
"I didn't say we had no chance i said it would be a pipe dream and unrealistic. "
"We are not beating Miami in a series, just forget about that please.
It is possible you don't understand the meaning of pipe dream and unrealistic.
If Pierce, Garnett and Terry get hot, we can beat anyone. We easily could have beaten the Heat last year, even with all of our injuries. We had no Green, Bradley or Wilcox. Stiemsma and Ray were hobbling on bad feet/ankles. Pietrus was never the same after his concussion AND he was playing on a bad knee. STILL we had the Heat beat if Wade gets called for a foul when he smacked Rondo on the head. The Heat are no where near as unbeatable as you think they are.
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Green defending Lebron is our only shot at beating Miami so I concur with the gentleman who said, "hell no."
We are not beating Miami in a series, just forget about that please. This blog has become totally unrealistic in the past week lol.
Look we beat 3 very bad teams, the clippers who have been on a slide, and yes we beat Miami at home in double OT. But people need to be realistic.
Man, people have become such wimps. Oh no, we can't beat the big bad heat even though we just did. It took us two whole OTs to beat them....oh no.
Is there a team we could beat that would provide some evidence to you that we might possibly be able to win a series? We could beat Miami in Miami by 20 and you'd probably still say we'd have no shot against them.
Listen, beating a team in the regular season means NOTHING come playoff time. Remember when the celtics beat miami like 3 out of 4 times in the regular season just to lose to them in 5 games in the playoffs?
Beating a team once or twice in the regular season is completely different than beating them 4 times in a playoff series. To even use the miami game that we just won as evidence we can beat miami in a playoff series is nothing less than ignorant & idiotic.
It has nothing to do with being a "Wimp". Its about being an educated basketball fan and knowing the celtics beating the heat in a 7 game series is very unlikely. Even before rondo went down it was unlikely. Now its borderline out of the question.
There is no evidence to suggest that us beating Miami is unrealistic or out of the question.
The only season any of Lebron's or Wade's teams beat us convincingly in the playoffs was 2011, and that came only a couple of months after we made the Perkins trade, which killed our team chemistry.
The only other time Miami beat us in the playoffs was last season, and it was hardly one sided. We led the series 3-2 going into game 6, and led for about 3/4 of game 7 before injuries took their toll and our key players just ran out of gas - right at the exact same time as Lebron decided to go into uber-beast mode. Everybody (including Celtics fans) predicted a blowout and expected we'd be knocked out in a 4 game sweep, maybe in 5 games if we were lucky.
We have been at least a match for Miami in the regular season every season since their 'big three' was assembled including this season, where we are currently tied 1-1.
To say you'd favour Miami in a 7 game series is fine, but to say we have no chance at all is rediculous. Historically games played between Miami and Boston have always been physical and hardfought, and as long as we have Bradley, Lee, Pierce and Green and Garnett we pretty much slow down Wade, Lebron and Bosh as well as any team in the league. We have traditionally been weak against teams with big frontcourts, and Miami is not one of those teams.
So many ridiculous things in this post and quite frankly I'm done arguing about this. I didn't say we had no chance i said it would be a pipe dream and unrealistic.
The 8th seed has a chance to beat everyone and win the NBA championship but what are the odds. We can just agree to disagree.
"I didn't say we had no chance i said it would be a pipe dream and unrealistic. "
"We are not beating Miami in a series, just forget about that please.
It is possible you don't understand the meaning of pipe dream and unrealistic.
If Pierce, Garnett and Terry get hot, we can beat anyone. We easily could have beaten the Heat last year, even with all of our injuries. We had no Green, Bradley or Wilcox. Stiemsma and Ray were hobbling on bad feet/ankles. Pietrus was never the same after his concussion AND he was playing on a bad knee. STILL we had the Heat beat if Wade gets called for a foul when he smacked Rondo on the head. The Heat are no where near as unbeatable as you think they are.
Beat the Heat!
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A-definite-no
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Love Al, but way too much in this scenario.
What say ye old for a Rondo for AlJeff and Millsap? Throw in picks where needed?
KG teaches both d. Bradley holds down point for us and DA/Doc draft defensive guards until the cows come home.
Jazz still ha Cousins and Kanter and an Al Star PG.
Blasphemy, I know. And unrealistic.
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Man, if Danny could get Millsap for Bass, Melo, C's 1st and C's 2nd round pick we are back in the hunt.
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Green defending Lebron is our only shot at beating Miami so I concur with the gentleman who said, "hell no."
We are not beating Miami in a series, just forget about that please. This blog has become totally unrealistic in the past week lol.
Look we beat 3 very bad teams, the clippers who have been on a slide, and yes we beat Miami at home in double OT. But people need to be realistic.
Man, people have become such wimps. Oh no, we can't beat the big bad heat even though we just did. It took us two whole OTs to beat them....oh no.
Is there a team we could beat that would provide some evidence to you that we might possibly be able to win a series? We could beat Miami in Miami by 20 and you'd probably still say we'd have no shot against them.
Listen, beating a team in the regular season means NOTHING come playoff time. Remember when the celtics beat miami like 3 out of 4 times in the regular season just to lose to them in 5 games in the playoffs?
Beating a team once or twice in the regular season is completely different than beating them 4 times in a playoff series. To even use the miami game that we just won as evidence we can beat miami in a playoff series is nothing less than ignorant & idiotic.
It has nothing to do with being a "Wimp". Its about being an educated basketball fan and knowing the celtics beating the heat in a 7 game series is very unlikely. Even before rondo went down it was unlikely. Now its borderline out of the question.
There is no evidence to suggest that us beating Miami is unrealistic or out of the question.
The only season any of Lebron's or Wade's teams beat us convincingly in the playoffs was 2011, and that came only a couple of months after we made the Perkins trade, which killed our team chemistry.
The only other time Miami beat us in the playoffs was last season, and it was hardly one sided. We led the series 3-2 going into game 6, and led for about 3/4 of game 7 before injuries took their toll and our key players just ran out of gas - right at the exact same time as Lebron decided to go into uber-beast mode. Everybody (including Celtics fans) predicted a blowout and expected we'd be knocked out in a 4 game sweep, maybe in 5 games if we were lucky.
We have been at least a match for Miami in the regular season every season since their 'big three' was assembled including this season, where we are currently tied 1-1.
To say you'd favour Miami in a 7 game series is fine, but to say we have no chance at all is rediculous. Historically games played between Miami and Boston have always been physical and hardfought, and as long as we have Bradley, Lee, Pierce and Green and Garnett we pretty much slow down Wade, Lebron and Bosh as well as any team in the league. We have traditionally been weak against teams with big frontcourts, and Miami is not one of those teams.
So many ridiculous things in this post and quite frankly I'm done arguing about this. I didn't say we had no chance i said it would be a pipe dream and unrealistic.
The 8th seed has a chance to beat everyone and win the NBA championship but what are the odds. We can just agree to disagree.
"I didn't say we had no chance i said it would be a pipe dream and unrealistic. "
"We are not beating Miami in a series, just forget about that please.
It is possible you don't understand the meaning of pipe dream and unrealistic.
If Pierce, Garnett and Terry get hot, we can beat anyone. We easily could have beaten the Heat last year, even with all of our injuries. We had no Green, Bradley or Wilcox. Stiemsma and Ray were hobbling on bad feet/ankles. Pietrus was never the same after his concussion AND he was playing on a bad knee. STILL we had the Heat beat if Wade gets called for a foul when he smacked Rondo on the head. The Heat are no where near as unbeatable as you think they are.
Why did you quote me saying the second thing in bold. I never said the second thing in BOLD. Somebody else said that and I remember reading it. Also i never said the heat were unbeatable.
I just don't think we're the team that can/will do it. Also, lets stop with the injuries because the heat had injury problems too. Their second best player missed half the series so lets not go there.
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Oh sorry, someone else jumped in there. Quote after quote got me mixed up.
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Oh sorry, someone else jumped in there. Quote after quote got me mixed up.
Let this be a lesson, once you have more than two nested quote boxes, just say no more quotes and hit reply instead. ;)
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Don't want big Al whatsoever.....what a total steal it still was to get the legendary kg for a deal centered around that scrub