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Title: Stern Expects NBA To Begin HGH Blood Testing By Next Season
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 06, 2013, 05:20:08 PM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/225984/Stern-Expects-NBA-To-Begin-HGH-Blood-Testing-By-Next-Season

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David Stern expects the NBA to adopt blood testing for HGH by the start of the 13-14 season.

“We watch what’s going on in baseball, we watch the negotiations that are going in with football, and it is my expectation that by next season [we] will be doing blood testing for HGH,” Stern told WCCO radio in Minnesota. “Our players have been terrific. They lead this in some ways, saying, ‘ We do not want to have anything less than the best.’ That’s been the way it’s been since 1983.”

Stern said Wednesday that testing hadn’t been implemented to this point because “there hasn’t been a favored testing protocol yet” and stated that he didn’t believe the NBA has a serious problem with HGH, which is on the league’s list of banned substances.

“If I say I don’t have a concern, everyone says I’m a Pollyanna,” Stern said. “I don’t have any reason to know one way or another. My guess is and my hope is that it’s not widely used in the NBA.”

Time to sell your stock in Dwight Howard.  <Insert LeBron Joke Here>
Title: Re: Stern Expects NBA To Begin HGH Blood Testing By Next Season
Post by: ScottHow on February 06, 2013, 05:35:44 PM
Yeah, LeBron and Howard are the first two names that come to mind
Title: Re: Stern Expects NBA To Begin HGH Blood Testing By Next Season
Post by: Smitty77 on February 06, 2013, 05:36:46 PM
I think that growth in his jaw that Lebron had removed several years ago that was due to increased HGH may have scared him straight.  Maybe not.

Smitty77
Title: Stern: "NBA will look to start blood testing for human growth hormone next year"
Post by: jdz101 on February 07, 2013, 07:40:57 AM
http://nba.si.com/2013/02/06/david-stern-hgh-testing-blood-nba-mlb-nfl/

Thank the lord. I thought the NBA would already be across this. One of the big teams in australian football is going through a massive scandal with this at the moment, so this sort of stuff is grabbing my attention a bit more these days.

Lebron I'm looking at you buddy. With your ridiculous physique, soft tissue cramps, and miraculous recovery from injuries.
Title: Re: Stern: "NBA will look to start blood testing for human growth hormone next year"
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 07, 2013, 07:42:57 AM
I really couldn't care less about a player using HGH or not.
Title: Re: Stern: "NBA will look to start blood testing for human growth hormone next year"
Post by: csfansince60s on February 07, 2013, 08:11:37 AM
I really couldn't care less about a player using HGH or not.

Disagree.

PEDs are a problem, not only at the pro level of many sports, but in college sports and in high school.


To condone in any way shape or form PEDs for professional sports, be it by a laissez-faire policy, a wink-wink, or outright collusion by informing athletes surreptitiously when they are going to be tested, tells high school kids it's OK.

PED use at high schools is a growing problem, only to be made worse by looking the other way. The temptation is great for high school kids to use PEDs to compete to get scholarships and pursue dreams to be a pro.

Not cool.
Title: Re: Stern: "NBA will look to start blood testing for human growth hormone next year"
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 07, 2013, 08:17:06 AM
I really couldn't care less about a player using HGH or not.

Disagree.

PEDs are a problem, not only at the pro level of many sports, but in college sports and in high school.


To condone in any way shape or form PEDs for professional sports, be it by a laissez-faire policy, a wink-wink, or outright collusion by informing athletes surreptitiously when they are going to be tested, tells high school kids it's OK.

PED use at high schools is a growing problem, only to be made worse by looking the other way. The temptation is great for high school kids to use PEDs to compete to get scholarships and pursue dreams to be a pro.

Not cool.

Be that as it may, I really couldn't care less about a person using HGH or not.
Title: Re: Stern: "NBA will look to start blood testing for human growth hormone next year"
Post by: Eja117 on February 07, 2013, 08:44:50 AM
kinda late to the party Stern.  And I highly doubt he's going after Bron
Title: Re: Stern: "NBA will look to start blood testing for human growth hormone next year"
Post by: contramundum on February 07, 2013, 08:49:17 AM
I really couldn't care less about a player using HGH or not.

Disagree.

PEDs are a problem, not only at the pro level of many sports, but in college sports and in high school.


To condone in any way shape or form PEDs for professional sports, be it by a laissez-faire policy, a wink-wink, or outright collusion by informing athletes surreptitiously when they are going to be tested, tells high school kids it's OK.

PED use at high schools is a growing problem, only to be made worse by looking the other way. The temptation is great for high school kids to use PEDs to compete to get scholarships and pursue dreams to be a pro.

Not cool.

Be that as it may, I really couldn't care less about a person using HGH or not.

I hear that.  I want to see guys with 42" Verticals.  I don't want players missing loads of games due to injuries.  I want to see 110mph fastballs, 4.2 second 40yd dash, all that crap.  I don't care if Lance was on the juice, disqualify all the dopers and the winner of those cycle races was probably in 30th place.  Swoll up muscles, amazing feats.  I want to see that.  If these guys, who make millions of dollars, desire to use PED's to gain a competitive edge, then I'm not gonna stop em, I'm just going to enjoy the games. 

Is it fair?  I don't know - are they going to start banning whole fat milk because its high in protein and is an excellent mass builder?  Is it an unfair advantage to eat clean and healthy?  Where does it end?  Deer antler spray?  Come on son...

As for the pressure on the high school athletes - is that any different than any other drug problem?  I knew a girl in high school that took diet pills to stay focused and energetic.  She was our saludictorian.  Oh well, she might be a doctor now for all I know, she also might have health problems.  I'm sure there was teacher, peer and parent pressure involved too.

I guess this kind of stuff happens regardless.  If it isn't HGH, there will be something else to replace it.


Title: Re: Stern: "NBA will look to start blood testing for human growth hormone next year"
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 07, 2013, 08:52:58 AM
testosterone perhaps would be the next one they use.
Title: Re: Stern: "NBA will look to start blood testing for human growth hormone next year"
Post by: Cman on February 07, 2013, 09:38:45 AM
awesome. but to eja's point, the tests need to be administered in a "fair" way (ie: let's not let the referees decide who gets tested or not). Best would be a third party that decides who to test and when at random.
Title: Re: Stern: "NBA will look to start blood testing for human growth hormone next year"
Post by: CoachBo on February 07, 2013, 09:53:03 AM
David Stern says hi, Lebron.
Title: Re: Stern: "NBA will look to start blood testing for human growth hormone next year"
Post by: beklog on February 07, 2013, 09:58:13 AM
Think they need to test the refs for weed and alcohol first.... ;)
Title: Re: Stern: "NBA will look to start blood testing for human growth hormone next year"
Post by: jdz101 on February 07, 2013, 05:13:22 PM
I really couldn't care less about a player using HGH or not.

Disagree.

PEDs are a problem, not only at the pro level of many sports, but in college sports and in high school.


To condone in any way shape or form PEDs for professional sports, be it by a laissez-faire policy, a wink-wink, or outright collusion by informing athletes surreptitiously when they are going to be tested, tells high school kids it's OK.

PED use at high schools is a growing problem, only to be made worse by looking the other way. The temptation is great for high school kids to use PEDs to compete to get scholarships and pursue dreams to be a pro.

Not cool.

Be that as it may, I really couldn't care less about a person using HGH or not.

I hear that.  I want to see guys with 42" Verticals.  I don't want players missing loads of games due to injuries.  I want to see 110mph fastballs, 4.2 second 40yd dash, all that crap.  I don't care if Lance was on the juice, disqualify all the dopers and the winner of those cycle races was probably in 30th place.  Swoll up muscles, amazing feats.  I want to see that.  If these guys, who make millions of dollars, desire to use PED's to gain a competitive edge, then I'm not gonna stop em, I'm just going to enjoy the games. 

Is it fair?  I don't know - are they going to start banning whole fat milk because its high in protein and is an excellent mass builder?  Is it an unfair advantage to eat clean and healthy?  Where does it end?  Deer antler spray?  Come on son...

As for the pressure on the high school athletes - is that any different than any other drug problem?  I knew a girl in high school that took diet pills to stay focused and energetic.  She was our saludictorian.  Oh well, she might be a doctor now for all I know, she also might have health problems.  I'm sure there was teacher, peer and parent pressure involved too.

I guess this kind of stuff happens regardless.  If it isn't HGH, there will be something else to replace it.

That's all well and good but what happens if the celtics players don't want to take them and other teams in the east are? Happy to lose games and playoff series' because the other team is bigger, stronger, and faster than yours?
Title: Re: Stern Expects NBA To Begin HGH Blood Testing By Next Season
Post by: Celtics18 on February 08, 2013, 12:21:01 PM
What are the health hazards of HGH?  If it's relatively safe, it doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: Stern Expects NBA To Begin HGH Blood Testing By Next Season
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 08, 2013, 12:22:52 PM
What are the health hazards of HGH?  If it's relatively safe, it doesn't bother me.

There are always risks, particularly when people try to get the drug through illegal channels.

But overall, I don't see much of a problem with it if used appropriately as far as I can tell.