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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: Pucaccia on February 06, 2013, 11:53:01 AM
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We are playing Celtics basketball and Celtics basketball wins Championships.
Red Auerbach style basketball wins championships even now.
It took Doc an injury to Rondo to finally figure out how to coach Celtics style. In the 70's we won championships with JoJo White, Don Chaney, Paul Silas, Hondo and Cowens. Great players playing as a team. JoJo wasn't a typical point guard. We played fast break, ball movement and dominated. No Superstars just great basketball.
This is how you win. While others are saying "Blow it Up!" They don't get it. This team has everything they need to win now. We have team play and a deep bench.
They are better with Rondo only if they keep playing this style. They are not better with Rondo when he comes back next year if they continued to have him hog the ball.
The point is: this is Celtics basketball and this style wins Championships!
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No, they are not.
The have won 4 straight with is good.
But they are not on the level of championship basketball.
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No, they are not.
The have won 4 straight with is good.
But they are not on the level of championship basketball.
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They've gotten their defensive efficiency back up into the top 5 or 6, which I'll agree is championship caliber. Over the last month or so they've been near the top of the league in that category.
However, offensively I think they're far from championship caliber, and that will only get worse in the playoffs when things tighten up and opponents have spent tons of time game-planning for our new "spread it around" offense.
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We are playing Celtics basketball and Celtics basketball wins Championships.
Red Auerback style basketball wins championships even now.
It took Doc an injury to Rondo to finally figure out how to coach Celtics style. In the 70's we won championships with JoJo White, Don Chaney, Paul Silas, Hondo and Cowens. Great players playing as a team. JoJo wasn't a typical point guard. We played fast break, ball movement and dominated. No Superstars just great basketball.
This is how you win. While others are saying "Blow it Up!" They don't get it. This team has everything they need to win now. We have team play and a deep bench.
They are better with Rondo only if they keep playing this style. They are not better with Rondo when he comes back next year if they continued to have him hog the ball.
The point is: this is Celtics basketball and this style wins Championships!
Like the spirit and hope you're right! Your vision requires a defensive stud to make it work. We got that. He's 36, but he's still going....he'll need lots of help.
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You supposedly know what celtics basketball is all about...but cant spell Auerbach... with that out of the way....uh no they arent playing championship caliber ball because of 4 games, 3 of which were against teams going through slumps and playing the worst ball in the NBA, all of which were at home.
They're playing simplified basketball..Ill be a little more impressed if they win in toronto tonight and continue it the upcoming week.
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I will wait to reserve judgement, because so far, I haven't seen championship basketball, I have seen a team that is clicking, and outworking other teams, and that has won a handful of games in a row against bad basketball teams, a great team that was sleepwalking, and a great team that is actually a bad team, because they were missing their superstar.
Now don't get me wrong, the play, and the chemistry has been encouraging. But its a long way from championship basketball. They would have to pick their game up another 2-3 levels to compete in the playoffs, and I think this team might be playing pretty close to their top level right now.
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See what they do against Toronto tonight and Lakers tomorrow. Raptors will be a great test. They are a good team with Gay, Lowery, etc..now the Lakers may be w/o both DH and Gasol..if they are, then we should win by 10 or more
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i love where we are at...i guarantee you the capt and kg think they can win it all this year...do you know why...because they are champions...and...do you know what champions know in their heart....they know you have to think like a champion...believe you are a champion and...act like a champion...before...and i stress before...you win a championship...if you go in half-hearted and not sure...your boat is sunk before you leave port...so...bottomline...if they think they can win it all..then...so do i...i challenge anyone to go up to the capt or kg and ask them if they think they can win it all...you know the answer...even better...go tell they capt and kg to their face that they have no chance...
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Fatigue is out there as an issue. It's on Doc to handle this classic nemesis of the aged. Mainly it means keeping Pierce fresh for the 4th. You can do it Doc!
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i love where we are at...i guarantee you the capt and kg think they can win it all this year...do you know why...because they are champions...and...do you know what champions know in their heart....they know you have to think like a champion...believe you are a champion and...act like a champion...before...and i stress before...you win a championship...if you go in half-hearted and not sure...your boat is sunk before you leave port...so...bottomline...if they think they can win it all..then...so do i...i challenge anyone to go up to the capt or kg and ask them if they think they can win it all...you know the answer...even better...go tell they capt and kg to their face that they have no chance...
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If they're honest with themselves I'm actually pretty sure they don't think they can win the championship....not sure what you love about where we are at...8 seed in the east
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i love where we are at...i guarantee you the capt and kg think they can win it all this year...do you know why...because they are champions...and...do you know what champions know in their heart....they know you have to think like a champion...believe you are a champion and...act like a champion...before...and i stress before...you win a championship...if you go in half-hearted and not sure...your boat is sunk before you leave port...so...bottomline...if they think they can win it all..then...so do i...i challenge anyone to go up to the capt or kg and ask them if they think they can win it all...you know the answer...even better...go tell they capt and kg to their face that they have no chance...
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If they're honest with themselves I'm actually pretty sure they don't think they can win the championship....not sure what you love about where we are at...8 seed in the east
if you are so confident in your convictions...then...go share your thoughts and feelings directly to the capt and kg...i can't wait to hear the results...
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i love where we are at...i guarantee you the capt and kg think they can win it all this year...do you know why...because they are champions...and...do you know what champions know in their heart....they know you have to think like a champion...believe you are a champion and...act like a champion...before...and i stress before...you win a championship...if you go in half-hearted and not sure...your boat is sunk before you leave port...so...bottomline...if they think they can win it all..then...so do i...i challenge anyone to go up to the capt or kg and ask them if they think they can win it all...you know the answer...even better...go tell they capt and kg to their face that they have no chance...
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If they're honest with themselves I'm actually pretty sure they don't think they can win the championship....not sure what you love about where we are at...8 seed in the east
if you are so confident in your convictions...then...go share your thoughts and feelings directly to the capt and kg...i can't wait to hear the results...
That'd be cool if I could! I think they're smart and realistic guys..I think they probably felt they could make a run at it before injuries and now think they can still make some noise in the east
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i love where we are at...i guarantee you the capt and kg think they can win it all this year...do you know why...because they are champions...and...do you know what champions know in their heart....they know you have to think like a champion...believe you are a champion and...act like a champion...before...and i stress before...you win a championship...if you go in half-hearted and not sure...your boat is sunk before you leave port...so...bottomline...if they think they can win it all..then...so do i...i challenge anyone to go up to the capt or kg and ask them if they think they can win it all...you know the answer...even better...go tell they capt and kg to their face that they have no chance...
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If they're honest with themselves I'm actually pretty sure they don't think they can win the championship....not sure what you love about where we are at...8 seed in the east
if you are so confident in your convictions...then...go share your thoughts and feelings directly to the capt and kg...i can't wait to hear the results...
That'd be cool if I could! I think they're smart and realistic guys..I think they probably felt they could make a run at it before injuries and now think they can still make some noise in the east
champions don't think about making noise...they think about winning...nothing less...that is why they are champions...
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No, they are not.
The have won 4 straight with is good.
But they are not on the level of championship basketball.
Agreed.
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Wasn't Cowens an MVP?
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While the wheels certainly could come off this train, I'm mildly upbeat about the Celts and like the team we have today.
If we finish 8th, I love that we get a guaranteed chance to battle the Heat. I want that battle. I think we match up better this year.
That said, one game at a time.
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First of all, the celtics beat Miami without Rondo. To disregard that game as beating a quality opponent is being ridiculous. Second, regarding the rest of their opponents since Rondo's been out, the celtics can only beat the teams on their schedule. To use that argument of weak opponents as backing for stating blatantly and confidently that the celtics are not championship caliber without Rondo I think is being narrow-minded.
"Waiting to reserve judgment" like Chris said or saying you "need to see more before I'm fully convinced" are appropriate things to say. But I think that criticizing a team for the quality of teams on its schedule since Rondo has been out is wrong.
I think the celtics have a chance at the championship. I like the basketball I'm seeing out of them. I thought we were championship caliber before Rondo got hurt (although werent playing like it at the time) and I think that while his loss was huge, I've seen so far and am envisioning a continuation of other player stepping up and filling in that gap (while not completely, still a large part of it).
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They have won 4 games. One against one of the worst teams in the league, one against one of the bottom 6 or 7 teams in the league, one against the Clippers without Chris Paul (who lost the next night at the Wizards) and one against Miami. I would say put the championship trophy on a plane to Boston immediately.
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They have won 4 games. One against one of the worst teams in the league, one against one of the bottom 6 or 7 teams in the league, one against the Clippers without Chris Paul (who lost the next night at the Wizards) and one against Miami. I would say put the championship trophy on a plane to Boston immediately.
TP.
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Getting ahead of ourselves... A little too early
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First of all, the celtics beat Miami without Rondo. To disregard that game as beating a quality opponent is being ridiculous. Second, regarding the rest of their opponents since Rondo's been out, the celtics can only beat the teams on their schedule. To use that argument of weak opponents as backing for stating blatantly and confidently that the celtics are not championship caliber without Rondo I think is being narrow-minded.
"Waiting to reserve judgment" like Chris said or saying you "need to see more before I'm fully convinced" are appropriate things to say. But I think that criticizing a team for the quality of teams on its schedule since Rondo has been out is wrong.
I think the celtics have a chance at the championship. I like the basketball I'm seeing out of them. I thought we were championship caliber before Rondo got hurt (although werent playing like it at the time) and I think that while his loss was huge, I've seen so far and am envisioning a continuation of other player stepping up and filling in that gap (while not completely, still a large part of it).
Dude, its 4 games. Even if we won all of those games by 20 i still wouldn't say we are a championship team. I still don't think we have nearly enough to beat miami or the bulls in the playoffs. Its one thing to beat miami once. Its another thing to beat miami 4 times in a playoff series.
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I will wait to reserve judgement, because so far, I haven't seen championship basketball, I have seen a team that is clicking, and outworking other teams, and that has won a handful of games in a row against bad basketball teams, a great team that was sleepwalking, and a great team that is actually a bad team, because they were missing their superstar.
Now don't get me wrong, the play, and the chemistry has been encouraging. But its a long way from championship basketball. They would have to pick their game up another 2-3 levels to compete in the playoffs, and I think this team might be playing pretty close to their top level right now.
This guy, this guy, he knows.
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The C's have been fun to watch over the last 4 games. That is the only conclusion I would draw at this point.
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The C's have been fun to watch over the last 4 games. That is the only conclusion I would draw at this point.
This. Playing the games on their schedule and beating mostly bad teams. They have been fun to watch, and the schedule has been kind to them. Even the Lakers, coming in tomorrow night, are badly crippled. We won't even recognize them except for Kobe and World Fraud.
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The OP is correct. 5 in a row. They are playing Championship Style Basketball. Ball movement and solid D. Will whip the Lakers Ass manana.
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The OP is correct. 5 in a row. They are playing Championship Style Basketball. Ball movement and solid D. Will whip the Lakers Ass manana.
And denver won like 7 or 8 in a row recently didn't they? They aren't a championship team either.
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The C's have been fun to watch over the last 4 games. That is the only conclusion I would draw at this point.
This. Playing the games on their schedule and beating mostly bad teams. They have been fun to watch, and the schedule has been kind to them. Even the Lakers, coming in tomorrow night, are badly crippled. We won't even recognize them except for Kobe and World Fraud.
You mean Metta World War?
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The OP is correct. 5 in a row. They are playing Championship Style Basketball. Ball movement and solid D. Will whip the Lakers Ass manana.
And denver won like 7 or 8 in a row recently didn't they? They aren't a championship team either.
Then you don't know the Nuggets.
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The OP is correct. 5 in a row. They are playing Championship Style Basketball. Ball movement and solid D. Will whip the Lakers Ass manana.
And denver won like 7 or 8 in a row recently didn't they? They aren't a championship team either.
Then you don't know the Nuggets.
please elaborate........................
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the difference between Denver and the Celtics is that you have Kevin Garnett/Paul Pierce...and Terry to take the big shots.
Denver plays solid team basketball, but in the playoffs you need that guy who can make the winning play, hit the dagger.
Pierce/KG can still give you that..and Terry as well
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They have won 4 games. One against one of the worst teams in the league, one against one of the bottom 6 or 7 teams in the league, one against the Clippers without Chris Paul (who lost the next night at the Wizards) and one against Miami. I would say put the championship trophy on a plane to Boston immediately.
The Wizards aren't so bad now that Wall is back. They just beat the Knicks. But I guess the Knicks probably aren't a championship contender either.
And every time someone brings up that this guy or that guy isn't playing, or this was one game not a series I want to puke. In the playoffs Garnett won't come out every five minutes so Collins can come in and when Pierce was coming back into the game tonight against the Raptors in the second quarter with 7 minutes to go, Pierce had played 8 minutes.
Every time KG gets on a roll and starts knocking down shots he has to come out on his five minute plan. The Celtics have done this for the sole reason of saving Garnett and Pierce for the playoffs. So I expect we might be a bit better in the playoffs than we are now.
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They have won 4 games. One against one of the worst teams in the league, one against one of the bottom 6 or 7 teams in the league, one against the Clippers without Chris Paul (who lost the next night at the Wizards) and one against Miami. I would say put the championship trophy on a plane to Boston immediately.
The Wizards aren't so bad now that Wall is back. They just beat the Knicks. But I guess the Knicks probably aren't a championship contender either.
And every time someone brings up that this guy or that guy isn't playing, or this was one game not a series I want to puke. In the playoffs Garnett won't come out every five minutes so Collins can come in and when Pierce was coming back into the game tonight against the Raptors in the second quarter with 7 minutes to go, Pierce had played 8 minutes.
Every time KG gets on a roll and starts knocking down shots he has to come out on his five minute plan. The Celtics have done this for the sole reason of saving Garnett and Pierce for the playoffs. So I expect we might be a bit better in the playoffs than we are now.
NBA Playoffs:NBA regular season :: Potatoes:The number "12"
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No, they are not.
The have won 4 straight with is good.
But they are not on the level of championship basketball.
Make that 5 straight...
Also what - beating bad teams is a bad thing? Isn't that what we are supposed to do?
We have had champtionship calbre teams in the past who couldn't beat a bad team to save their lives, becauset hey only played against good teams. This attitude seems to have been led by the might Rondo, who mysteriously dissapeared just as we started beating teams we are supposed to beat.
Funny that.
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No, they are not.
The have won 4 straight with is good.
But they are not on the level of championship basketball.
Make that 5 straight...
Also what - beating bad teams is a bad thing? Isn't that what we are supposed to do?
We have had champtionship calbre teams in the past who couldn't beat a bad team to save their lives, becauset hey only played against good teams. This attitude seems to have been led by the might Rondo, who mysteriously dissapeared just as we started beating teams we are supposed to beat.
Funny that.
Yep... it's all on Rondo now! It's always easiest to blame the guy who isn't there.
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They have won 4 games. One against one of the worst teams in the league, one against one of the bottom 6 or 7 teams in the league, one against the Clippers without Chris Paul (who lost the next night at the Wizards) and one against Miami. I would say put the championship trophy on a plane to Boston immediately.
The Wizards aren't so bad now that Wall is back. They just beat the Knicks. But I guess the Knicks probably aren't a championship contender either.
And every time someone brings up that this guy or that guy isn't playing, or this was one game not a series I want to puke. In the playoffs Garnett won't come out every five minutes so Collins can come in and when Pierce was coming back into the game tonight against the Raptors in the second quarter with 7 minutes to go, Pierce had played 8 minutes.
Every time KG gets on a roll and starts knocking down shots he has to come out on his five minute plan. The Celtics have done this for the sole reason of saving Garnett and Pierce for the playoffs. So I expect we might be a bit better in the playoffs than we are now.
NBA Playoffs:NBA regular season :: Potatoes:The number "12"
Apparently every team gets better in the playoffs but us. Sucks to be the Celtics I guess.
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P.s.
Haven't we just strung together two 5+ game win streaks in a row, separated by a 3 game losing streak?
IIRC we won 6 straight, lost 3 straight, and now won 5 straight.
If that memory of mine serves me correctly that's 11 out of the last 14 games we've won, and many of those 11 have been against strong playoff teams.
To be honest it's not just the figures in the W column either. We've been playing significantly better over the last month and our defense is back to champtionship calibre defense, where it needs to be.
We It's been years since we've been a strong offensive team, and yet we've always been considered a champtionship contender. Many may not take us seriously, but there are certain teams out there (like Miami) who have gone to war with us many times over the years, and they will treat us like a contender any time they play us. If we did finish up as a 7th or 8th seed, a lot of 1st / 2nd seeds are not going to want to play us in that position. They know we've defied the odds before - don't underestimate championship experience.
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No, they are not.
The have won 4 straight with is good.
But they are not on the level of championship basketball.
Make that 5 straight...
Also what - beating bad teams is a bad thing? Isn't that what we are supposed to do?
We have had champtionship calbre teams in the past who couldn't beat a bad team to save their lives, becauset hey only played against good teams. This attitude seems to have been led by the might Rondo, who mysteriously dissapeared just as we started beating teams we are supposed to beat.
Funny that.
Yep... it's all on Rondo now! It's always easiest to blame the guy who isn't there.
Are you even going to TRY to deny that Rondo plays significantly worse (and with less effort) in non-televised regular season games against weak competition?
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No, they are not.
The have won 4 straight with is good.
But they are not on the level of championship basketball.
Make that 5 straight...
Also what - beating bad teams is a bad thing? Isn't that what we are supposed to do?
We have had champtionship calbre teams in the past who couldn't beat a bad team to save their lives, becauset hey only played against good teams. This attitude seems to have been led by the might Rondo, who mysteriously dissapeared just as we started beating teams we are supposed to beat.
Funny that.
Yep... it's all on Rondo now! It's always easiest to blame the guy who isn't there.
Are you even going to TRY to deny that Rondo plays significantly worse (and with less effort) in non-televised regular season games against weak competition?
Didn't say that. I believe, you can not just say that Rondo is the leader of this syndrome. It's all of the Celtics. They're vets!
Rondo essentially grew up under Pierce so if anyone, blame him!
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Haven't we just strung together two 5+ game win streaks in a row, separated by a 3 game losing streak?
IIRC we won 6 straight, lost 3 straight, and now won 5 straight.
If that memory of mine serves me correctly that's 11 out of the last 14 games we've won, and many of those 11 have been against strong playoff teams.
To be honest it's not just the figures in the W column either. We've been playing significantly better over the last month and our defense is back to champtionship calibre defense, where it needs to be.
It was a six games losing streak, not three.
FWIW, our win/loss record since December 27th:
4 game losing streak (lost vs. 3 playoff teams)
6 game win streak (won vs. 4 playoff teams)
6 game losing streak (lost vs. 3 playoff teams)
5 game win streak (won vs. 2 playoff teams)
While I agree that the defense has significantly improved over the last month or so, they're still a very inconsistent team.
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They are definitely playing "Championship" style basketball. They are good enough to win a championship. While all other teams feature their superstars, the C's play team ball, just like the 60's and 70's. The C's and the Spurs will change how teams are build from now on. Team Ball. Celtics Basketball.
And no it's not Rondo's fault they were losing, it's Doc's fault for not making them play "Team Championship" style basketball. Next year they will be even better with Rondo playing "Celtics Basketball"
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No, they are not.
The have won 4 straight with is good.
But they are not on the level of championship basketball.
Make that 5 straight...
Also what - beating bad teams is a bad thing? Isn't that what we are supposed to do?
We have had champtionship calbre teams in the past who couldn't beat a bad team to save their lives, becauset hey only played against good teams. This attitude seems to have been led by the might Rondo, who mysteriously dissapeared just as we started beating teams we are supposed to beat.
Funny that.
Yep... it's all on Rondo now! It's always easiest to blame the guy who isn't there.
Are you even going to TRY to deny that Rondo plays significantly worse (and with less effort) in non-televised regular season games against weak competition?
It should be pretty clear that the team as a whole is playing with more effort and focus now than they were earlier in the season. Not only could people like you not tell that they were coasting but you blamed the overall team play on Rondo coasting.
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Love the new Celtics playing PURE team ball
yea......I know the Nuggets are play n awesome ball.........and they very well may beat the C's.....
but I' m finally enjoying THIS version of the Celtics play CORRECT team play.
no more standing around , ball movement,
turn overs down! ball movement up......team energy up ......confidence up......smiles on every bodies faces......
please don't return to "stall ball". of Rondo
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What Kobe said...
"It's typical Celtics basketball," Bryant said. "They all just put their hard hats on and they go out and go hard and figure things out. It always just seems like whenever their backs are against the wall, you know that's when you really see the best from them. Then they perform and step up and play well, just like they did last year. They made that playoff run, that's just what this team does. They kind of rope-a-dope you a little bit."
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A win against the Nugs would legitimately show that we are contenders. Can we do that?
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The speed, hustle, and chemistry of the bench "big 3" as I now call them... Green, Terry, and Barbosa has really sparked this team. Pierce thriving as a point forward for the first unit and a suffocating 1 2 punch of AB and Lee on the defensive end together with that unit messes opposing offenses badly.
I miss Rondo and Sully... but this is the best the team has looked all year.
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6 straight now.....
But the magic and kings are terrible
And the clippers didnt have chris paul
And the raptors well they are still trying to gel after the trade
And the lakers are just terrible, the celtics should have been them by at least 40 like a real championship team would have
oh yeah, there was the heat, but hey they just played really hard that game
If the celtics want to prove to me they are a championship level team, they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule.
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They are definitely playing "Championship" style basketball. They are good enough to win a championship. While all other teams feature their superstars, the C's play team ball, just like the 60's and 70's. The C's and the Spurs will change how teams are build from now on. Team Ball. Celtics Basketball.
And no it's not Rondo's fault they were losing, it's Doc's fault for not making them play "Team Championship" style basketball. Next year they will be even better with Rondo playing "Celtics Basketball"
Rondo can't shoot a semi-contested jumpshot and doesn't move much without the ball. In other words, he is utterly useless on the court if he doesn't dominate the ball. If Rondo is playing, Doc has no choice but to let him pound the rock until someone gets open.
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I think what we are failing to realize is that in 08 we were very unpredictable because the league had not seen the team yet and there was a breath of fresh air. I feel like something similar is going on currently and it is going to be exciting.
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And the clippers didnt have chris paul
Still a great team and we were beating them really well in the first half, but unfortunately, the C's took their foot off the pedal in the second half and almost lost to them.
And the raptors well they are still trying to gel after the trade
They are still incredibly feisty with Gay being added to their team. They are tougher than what their record shows, that's for sure. And we played away. We still won and showed that the bench can perform during clutch moments while losing by double digits.
And the lakers are just terrible, the celtics should have been them by at least 40 like a real championship team would have
Uh dude, we were beating them by 32 at one point... and the whole fourth quarter was played by scrubs, which knocked the final score down. The Lakers did win 5 of their last 6 games, but yeah, without Gasol, they aren't as good, but at least give the C's some props here...
oh yeah, there was the heat, but hey they just played really hard that game
Okay... so you just don't want to give them credit for that?
If the celtics want to prove to me they are a championship level team, they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule.
What... they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule? What are you talking about...
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If the celtics want to prove to me they are a championship level team, they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule.
What... they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule? What are you talking about...
Think he's being tongue-in-cheek, making fun of people who discount the wins.
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I really don't buy the Rondo thing as being a huge key - remember, we won 6 in a row a few weeks back, and blew a few very winnable games during the losing streak.
But one thing I have noticed lately is players are looking 2 and 3 passes ahead, rotating the ball quickly and crisply until the defense can't keep up. The 08 and 09 teams did that, but the Rondo-led team this year hadn't. Can't discount the value of ball movement both in getting shots and keeping guys mentally involved.
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Again, winning is great.
The team is playing really well.
I don't see the championship contender out there.
I see a team that can beat anyone on a single night, but I don't see a team that will beat the top teams (and their might be only 4 of them in the league) in a 7 game series.
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They are definitely playing "Championship" style basketball. They are good enough to win a championship. While all other teams feature their superstars, the C's play team ball, just like the 60's and 70's. The C's and the Spurs will change how teams are build from now on. Team Ball. Celtics Basketball.
And no it's not Rondo's fault they were losing, it's Doc's fault for not making them play "Team Championship" style basketball. Next year they will be even better with Rondo playing "Celtics Basketball"
Rondo can't shoot a semi-contested jumpshot and doesn't move much without the ball. In other words, he is utterly useless on the court if he doesn't dominate the ball. If Rondo is playing, Doc has no choice but to let him pound the rock until someone gets open.
It's not true at all that Rondo doesn't move much without the ball and I'm curious about what evidence you have that Rondo shoots semi-contested jump shots worse than other players.
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6 straight now.....
But the magic and kings are terrible
And the clippers didnt have chris paul
And the raptors well they are still trying to gel after the trade
And the lakers are just terrible, the celtics should have been them by at least 40 like a real championship team would have
oh yeah, there was the heat, but hey they just played really hard that game
If the celtics want to prove to me they are a championship level team, they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule.
The six wins have been against terrible teams, the Lakers who are the biggest mess in the league, the Clippers without Paul, who then lost the next night to the Wizards, and the Heat. If they can continue to play this way against the Nuggets, the Bulls, on the west coast trip, and against a much tougher schedule after the all star break, they may have something here. That said, I will enjoy this as long as it continues.
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They are definitely playing "Championship" style basketball. They are good enough to win a championship. While all other teams feature their superstars, the C's play team ball, just like the 60's and 70's. The C's and the Spurs will change how teams are build from now on. Team Ball. Celtics Basketball.
And no it's not Rondo's fault they were losing, it's Doc's fault for not making them play "Team Championship" style basketball. Next year they will be even better with Rondo playing "Celtics Basketball"
Rondo can't shoot a semi-contested jumpshot and doesn't move much without the ball. In other words, he is utterly useless on the court if he doesn't dominate the ball. If Rondo is playing, Doc has no choice but to let him pound the rock until someone gets open.
It's not true at all that Rondo doesn't move much without the ball and I'm curious about what evidence you have that Rondo shoots semi-contested jump shots worse than other players.
There is no evidence, of course. It just fits the narrative that this team is better without Rondo. Which is foolish. How come the bench guys all of a sudden are playing better? Why weren't they playing this well before when Rondo wasn't on the floor. A lot of the crap play before Rondo's injury is on these guys.
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6 straight now.....
But the magic and kings are terrible
And the clippers didnt have chris paul
And the raptors well they are still trying to gel after the trade
And the lakers are just terrible, the celtics should have been them by at least 40 like a real championship team would have
oh yeah, there was the heat, but hey they just played really hard that game
If the celtics want to prove to me they are a championship level team, they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule.
The six wins have been against terrible teams, the Lakers who are the biggest mess in the league, the Clippers without Paul, who then lost the next night to the Wizards, and the Heat. If they can continue to play this way against the Nuggets, the Bulls, on the west coast trip, and against a much tougher schedule after the all star break, they may have something here. That said, I will enjoy this as long as it continues.
Miami Heat?
And if the lakers are the biggest mess in the league... but just won 3 straight road games prior to last night... then how would you describe the 3 teams that LA just beat in their own buildings? The BIGGEST UGLIEST MOST DISGUSTING 3 MESSES TO EVER HAVE MESSED? While LA is a mess indeed, they still have a ton of talent on that team. A win over that team is still not an easy task. Just ask Brooklyn.
If the celtics want to prove to me they are a championship level team, they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule.
What... they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule? What are you talking about...
Think he's being tongue-in-cheek, making fun of people who discount the wins.
Thanks fwf. Sorry for the confusion redspades, hoped everyone would catch that!
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6 straight now.....
But the magic and kings are terrible
And the clippers didnt have chris paul
And the raptors well they are still trying to gel after the trade
And the lakers are just terrible, the celtics should have been them by at least 40 like a real championship team would have
oh yeah, there was the heat, but hey they just played really hard that game
If the celtics want to prove to me they are a championship level team, they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule.
If the celtics want to prove to me they are a championship level team, they need to go out and knock a couple of teams out of the playoffs and look pretty competitive in the ECF if they don't win it.
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I HATE the "we beat bad teams" so this win streak doesn't mean anything argument... its the NBA. They're all pros! Any team can be any team on a given night. Putting together 6 straight wins is tough in this league... I don't care who they're playing the Celts are playing very well right now and im not going to take anything away from them because they haven't beat 6 "good teams."
They can only play whose on their schedule
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They can only play whose on their schedule
Exactly, which is why the team needs to keep playing well and winning.
We've played 10 mostly bad games in our losing streaks (3 weren't so bad but the rest blech) and 12 good games in our two winning streaks (some clearly better than others).
The team needs to keep winning and playing well, that's it. If you're frustrated that people are skeptical due to scheduling strength both home/away and opponent, remember our previous awful road trip and other losing streaks.
This team is barely out of the 8th seed, they haven't shown anyone anything yet.
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This team is so good right now, i can't wait to play Denver, GS, NYN, MIAMI soon enough to test us out
The defense is absolutely in sync as well as the offense is passing it until the best shot is available.
During last nights game where Steve Kerr was a color commentator for nbc, he couldnt stop gushing about how good the celts play on both ends of the court. He said it like 20 times literally. But he does worry if we meet a team that is excellent defensively like miami or SA, without Rondo how shots may be created. I say bring them ON!
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They can only play whose on their schedule
Exactly, which is why the team needs to keep playing well and winning.
We've played 10 mostly bad games in our losing streaks (3 weren't so bad but the rest blech) and 12 good games in our two winning streaks (some clearly better than others).
The team needs to keep winning and playing well, that's it. If you're frustrated that people are skeptical due to scheduling strength both home/away and opponent, remember our previous awful road trip and other losing streaks.
This team is barely out of the 8th seed, they haven't shown anyone anything yet.
Exactly what I'm saying. We got blown out by the same Kings team we blew out on this win streak. They do need to keep playing hard. A wins a win. We're now beating teams we expect to beat... maybe some of the bloggers on here have short term memory issues, but there was a time not too long ago that we couldn't even do that
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looking at the standings, its interesting to note we are only 3-losses out of the 4th seed...if we can keep winning we have a change to make a nice move up the standings
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6 straight now.....
But the magic and kings are terrible
And the clippers didnt have chris paul
And the raptors well they are still trying to gel after the trade
And the lakers are just terrible, the celtics should have been them by at least 40 like a real championship team would have
oh yeah, there was the heat, but hey they just played really hard that game
If the celtics want to prove to me they are a championship level team, they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule.
The six wins have been against terrible teams, the Lakers who are the biggest mess in the league, the Clippers without Paul, who then lost the next night to the Wizards, and the Heat. If they can continue to play this way against the Nuggets, the Bulls, on the west coast trip, and against a much tougher schedule after the all star break, they may have something here. That said, I will enjoy this as long as it continues.
Miami Heat?
And if the lakers are the biggest mess in the league... but just won 3 straight road games prior to last night... then how would you describe the 3 teams that LA just beat in their own buildings? The BIGGEST UGLIEST MOST DISGUSTING 3 MESSES TO EVER HAVE MESSED? While LA is a mess indeed, they still have a ton of talent on that team. A win over that team is still not an easy task. Just ask Brooklyn.
If the celtics want to prove to me they are a championship level team, they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule.
What... they need to go out and beat some teams that are not on their schedule? What are you talking about...
Think he's being tongue-in-cheek, making fun of people who discount the wins.
Thanks fwf. Sorry for the confusion redspades, hoped everyone would catch that!
Yeah. I had edited my post and screwed it up. I meant three wins against terrible teams.
As far as the streak goes, I do not think it means nothing. However, they previously won six games in a row and looked pretty good before losing six games in a row before again winning 6 games in a row. Their schedule gets tough 2 out of the next 3 games and then after the all star break. It will be a true test for this team and the new style of ball it is playing.
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a tooth under a pillow will get ya a buck. Nothing will get this Celtic Team a Championship this season. The Team core is done, the few that get it will take more time to improve, the rest will be wearing different uniforms next season and maybe not NBA style.
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Could be the most fluky winning streak ever.. ...the best win was honestly against Toronto on the road...I have to admit I'm enjoying it though...they're playing hard and relishing not having anything expected of them