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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: Birdman on February 06, 2013, 09:59:17 AM

Title: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: Birdman on February 06, 2013, 09:59:17 AM
Everyone seem s to be talking about this proposal so I put a poll up to see how many agree/disagree
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: Birdman on February 06, 2013, 10:04:31 AM
Then Phoenix could go after Josh Smith
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: eugen on February 06, 2013, 10:10:06 AM
Do it ASAP
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: csfansince60s on February 06, 2013, 10:10:37 AM
In a heartbeat, if we are in "win-now" mode, and I assume we are.

1. We get to keep PP and KG
2. We get immediate help at two areas of need for at least this year and next. (KG/Gortat is an exciting prospect.)
3.Both Gortat and Dragic are on very reasonable/very good contracts.
4. We get two starter caliber players.
5. Suns will suck waiting for RR, but will have a lotto pick and RR coming back, and he's like (better) another lotto pick.
6. RR is the bait for the Suns who covet Josh Smith.

Win-win, let's do it.
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: moiso on February 06, 2013, 10:11:27 AM
I wouldn't do that trade.  Not crazy about Dragic as our starting point guard.
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: wdleehi on February 06, 2013, 10:12:08 AM
No. 


Neither of the players the Celtics get are the building block Rondo is. 


And while it makes the Celtics stronger, it does not turn them into contenders. 
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: Birdman on February 06, 2013, 10:15:22 AM
Starters:
Gortat
KG
Pierce
Bradley
Dragic

Bench:
Wilcox
Bass
Green
Terry
Lee
Barbosa
Sully

I do it!! Hate to see Rondo go but it would help us..
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: arctic 3.0 on February 06, 2013, 11:37:10 AM
I am of the opinion that dragic will be a star. He may not be able to play d like rondo can ( key word being can) but he has an excellent handle, great court vision and can score the ball. He is at least active on d as his 1.2 steals per game attest.
Gortat would be the best center we've had on this team in a long time.
If we pulled this trade off we would be title contenders this year and set up for the future with a young core of dragic,bradley sully, gortat (who, at 27 he can help us for a while)
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: Who on February 06, 2013, 11:41:51 AM
No -- Rondo is too valuable. I want someone Danny can build around long term for Rondo.
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: Birdman on February 06, 2013, 11:42:23 AM
I am of the opinion that dragic will be a star. He may not be able to play d like rondo can ( key word being can) but he has an excellent handle, great court vision and can score the ball. He is at least active on d as his 1.2 steals per game attest.
Gortat would be the best center we've had on this team in a long time.
If we pulled this trade off we would be title contenders this year and set up for the future with a young core of dragic,bradley sully, gortat (who, at 27 he can help us for a while)
Thanks!! U said it best and thats why i would do the trade..plus u dont know what effect of the knee will have on Rondo
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: Who on February 06, 2013, 11:43:39 AM
I am of the opinion that dragic will be a star. He may not be able to play d like rondo can ( key word being can) but he has an excellent handle, great court vision and can score the ball. He is at least active on d as his 1.2 steals per game attest.
I don't know. Dragic hasn't shown much improvement in the last 4 years. I feel like he is pretty close to his peak right now.
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: Moranis on February 06, 2013, 11:52:01 AM
Phoenix would not make that trade so the point is moot. If Rondo was healthy, then sure, but he is not so they won't.

I still think some iteration of this 3 team trade would work for all 3 teams

PHO - Smith, Rondo, Terry
ATL - Dragic, Gortat, Bass, Lee
BOS - Teague, L. Williams, Dudley, Pachulia, W. Johnson, I. Johnson

Phoenix picks up 2 stars to build around for apparently some unhappy players.

Atlanta replaces Teague with a slightly lesser PG, but one locked up long term on a fairly reasonable contract, adds the true center they want to pair with Horford and picks up some very solid bench/spot starters in Bass and Lee on reasonable deals.

Boston is a lot more competitive this year and has a lot more long term flexibility and assets going forward.  So for the rest of this year Boston would be:

PG - Teague, Bradley, Barbosa
SG - Dudley, Bradley, W. Johnson
SF - Pierce, Green, Dudley
PF - Garnett, Green, I. Johnson
C - Pachulia, Garnett, Wilcox, Collins, Melo

Next year Boston adds back in Williams and Sullinger, and presumably would re-sign Teague, Pachulia, and maybe the Johnson's plus adds the draft pick and would be in a pretty good spot moving forward as well
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: arctic 3.0 on February 06, 2013, 11:53:00 AM
I am of the opinion that dragic will be a star. He may not be able to play d like rondo can ( key word being can) but he has an excellent handle, great court vision and can score the ball. He is at least active on d as his 1.2 steals per game attest.
I don't know. Dragic hasn't shown much improvement in the last 4 years. I feel like he is pretty close to his peak right now.
Playing for a mess of an org with little continuity of players or talent.
Put him with two hall of famers and a good coach and see what happens.
Title: Re: Boston/Phoenix trade
Post by: gift on February 06, 2013, 11:53:51 AM
I was playing with the same trade, but here's the only way I'd do it.

Rondo for Dragic, Gortat, 2013 #1 pick and Celtics' right to swap #1's in 2015.


If this happened, I'd try to package the 2013 pick with Bass to upgrade that position (Millsap?).