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Title: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: KG_ended_Bias on February 04, 2013, 04:42:51 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a62qeuj

Boston will be thin at PF until Sullinger gets back & maybe we have a few dollars to throw at a good SF in the offseason if we can somehow unload Bass in the near future in a seperate deal. A Sullinger assuming he comes back 100% & D-12 instantly becomes the best rebounding & physically intimidating frontcourt in the game. I this this lineup is a lineup that can challenge for title soon with a tweak or 2.

Likely Lineup 2013 playoffs!
PG: Chris Paul/ Avery Bradley
SG: Avery Bradley/ Courtney Lee
SF: Ron"PEACE"Artest/ Devin Ebanks
PF: Brandon Bass/ Chris Wilcox/ K-Mart or DL'er
C : Dwight Howard/ Fab Melo

Dream Lineup 2013-2014!
PG: CP-3/Bradley/ Cheap FA
SG: Bradley/ Lee/ Cheap FA
SF: "Peace" Artest/ drafted SF or Bi-anny SF
PF: Dwight Howard/ Sullinger/ hopefully not BASS
C : Greg Oden(mid-level)/D-12/Melo

LakersI think this trade helps them tremendously being they get a true all-around extra playmaker in Pierce to take up for Kobe new role as a secondary ball distributor. They acquire a new stretch 4 in Green essential in running D'Antoni's offense, they get Odom back  & he a good fit for up-tempo ball & a great back-up PF & spare minutes at 3 with Earl Clark blossoming. Gasol goes back to True Post-up 5 where he belongs & maybe LA ask for a 1st rounder or Melo to acquire a future prospect center. But Sacre & Jordan Hill should be just fine. And Barbosa in D'Antoni's offense is self explanatory a perfect fit behind Nash & Kobe, the deer they need who can put points up in a hurry! Nash,Kobe,Pierce,Gasol would be a legitimate nightmare for the league in late game situations FT shooting & late game clutchness big shot makers that you wouldn't have to worry about like with Howard being non existent with less than 5 mins. Making it worthwhile for LA! All in all a great package for Howard if you may lose him for nothing.

Lakers
PG: Nash/Barbosa/Blake
SG: Kobe/Barbosa/Meeks
SF: Pierce/Clark/Jamison/Green
PF: J.Green/Odom/Clark/Jamison
C : Gasol/Hill/Sacre

Clippers get a trusted defensive big in Garnett & become even more deeper & veteran battle tested. Losing CP-3 may not hurt as bad in the present as some might imagine. You cover up all holes in the lineup by getting KG & Terry along with keeping Bledsoe while taking your weak link in W.Green out of the starting 5. And when Billups come back I think the Clips would have a Juggernaut. Think of this team now & in the next 2 years.

Clips
PG: Bledsoe/Billups or vice versa/ G.Hill/ *Rondo
SG: Terry/Crawford or vice versa/ W.Green
SF: Butler/G.Hill/Barnes
PF: Griffin/Garnett/Thompkins/
C : Garnett/D.Jordan/Turiaf

* Wildcard in Rondo for the future without having to worry about losing CP3 in the offseason for nothing!
 
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: sofutomygaha on February 04, 2013, 04:49:11 PM

The answer to your question is that the Lakers and the Clippers both say no.

The Clippers say no because trading Paul will take them out of contention this year.

The Lakers say no because they want to sign Howard long term, and if they can't do that they want to have max money free for another star. The Green and Pierce contracts destroy both of those possibilities.

Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: KG_ended_Bias on February 04, 2013, 04:54:35 PM

The answer to your question is that the Lakers and the Clippers both say no.

The Clippers say no because trading Paul will take them out of contention this year.

The Lakers say no because they want to sign Howard long term, and if they can't do that they want to have max money free for another star. The Green and Pierce contracts destroy both of those possibilities.


Kobe wants to win now! Pierce most likely is the best option to help him do that. Plus they do get a expiring in Odom which doesn't do a whole lot but Nash,Kobe,Pierce,Green,Gasol going forward after 2013 with a couple of tweaks is worth it to Kobe I bet.

The Clips I believe would be a better team right now with just getting Billups back with Garnett & Terry. I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 04, 2013, 05:01:13 PM
I say no.
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: EJPLAYA on February 04, 2013, 05:18:20 PM
Any trade that results in Metta World Peace in a Celtics uniform gets axed by Celtics Fans.
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: slamtheking on February 04, 2013, 05:19:56 PM
I'd say no but my mouth is full of vomit from reading that   :P
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: Levis107 on February 04, 2013, 05:29:39 PM
There's no way the Clippers trade Chris Paul for Rondo.
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: KG_ended_Bias on February 04, 2013, 05:34:36 PM
So NO one thinks the possibility of CP3 & D-12 going for for 5 yrs & beyond trumps KG & Pierce for 2 tops? I understand Metta is not idea but u only have to deal with him for 1 year. My gosh Celtics fans sickeningly "new word" over value you Celtics players. We would HAVE to do that if it was available. Ainge should fire himself if he turned that down & Doc would choke him.
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: Levis107 on February 04, 2013, 05:36:05 PM
So NO one thinks the possibility of CP3 & D-12 going for for 5 yrs & beyond trumps KG & Pierce for 2 tops? I understand Metta is not idea but u only have to deal with him for 1 year. My gosh Celtics fans sickeningly "new word" over value you Celtics players. We would HAVE to do that if it was available. Ainge should fire himself if he turned that down & Doc would choke him.

It would except for the fact that Howard would never sign here. And there's no way Chris Paul for Rondo happens, the Clippers laugh at that offer.
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 04, 2013, 05:37:03 PM
I give this post three Jordan gifs.


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LOL... Boston getting the best big man and best point guard alive... two of the top 5 players in the league... for a busted overrated point guard and guys with one foot in retirement.  Nice one!
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: ScottHow on February 04, 2013, 05:39:26 PM
I stopped reading when I saw we got Howard and Paul lol
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 04, 2013, 05:43:57 PM
I give this post three Jordan gifs.


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LOL... Boston getting the best big man and best point guard alive... two of the top 5 players in the league... for a busted overrated point guard and guys with one foot in retirement.  Nice one!
Three Jordan gifs isn't enough.  It also deserves a double Hodgson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw32fiasUSs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqKcnYWCAJc

Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: KG_ended_Bias on February 04, 2013, 05:51:58 PM
You are probably the same guys who laughed at me when I said we would get Garnett way before anybody else thought of KG! If it can be looked up look it up! I said we could get KG for Jefferson, G. Green, Gomes, & Rondo. What happened? It happened & I laughed softly no need for even throwing a I told you so out there. Now I not saying this will happen, but KG,D-12 & CP-3 have all been traded for poop platters in their primes before so anything is possible.
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: relja on February 04, 2013, 06:08:35 PM
I laughed my backside off. Thank you, good sir.
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: celtsfan84 on February 04, 2013, 06:28:18 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxxw33q

Here's my counter to that trade.  All parties stand to benefit here.

Miami builds valuable depth, which is necessary in case of any injuries.

Cleveland gains experience and a proven winner, which their young team is lacking.

Utah clears their glut of big men and fills a position of need.

The only team that might turn it down is Boston, because of likely chemistry issues in losing 5 rotation players.
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: manl_lui on February 04, 2013, 06:41:39 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxxw33q

Here's my counter to that trade.  All parties stand to benefit here.

Miami builds valuable depth, which is necessary in case of any injuries.

Cleveland gains experience and a proven winner, which their young team is lacking.

Utah clears their glut of big men and fills a position of need.

The only team that might turn it down is Boston, because of likely chemistry issues in losing 5 rotation players.

^^ LOL, I don't see Rondo in that trade, or bradley, KG or Pierce...

yep, I'll pull that trigger in a heartbeat and who wouldn't :)
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 04, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxxw33q

Here's my counter to that trade.  All parties stand to benefit here.

Miami builds valuable depth, which is necessary in case of any injuries.

Cleveland gains experience and a proven winner, which their young team is lacking.

Utah clears their glut of big men and fills a position of need.

The only team that might turn it down is Boston, because of likely chemistry issues in losing 5 rotation players.
Way too much for Boston to give up. Can't trade Collins.  We need his size.
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: wiley on February 04, 2013, 08:05:28 PM
The Lakers say no.

For the Clippers it's not at all laughable.  Once again people underestimate
the impact on the game of basketball of one Kevin Garnett.

Billups, Bledsoe and Terry could get the job done with Griffin, Garnett and D. Jordan.

Chris Paul, most talented player in the deal, but in the game of basketball the superstars do take away a bit of light from the others, including backups.  How many minutes of Bledsoe with a healthy Chris Paul?  Not enough. He goes to waste (not Paul's fault). 

Bottom line:  42 minutes of Bledsoe and 38 minutes of Garnett better than 42 minutes of Chris Paul and no Garnett.

Clippers lose the deal on talent and improve their title hopes.

(pick up Rondo to boot)

Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: Kane3387 on February 04, 2013, 08:07:56 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxxw33q

Here's my counter to that trade.  All parties stand to benefit here.

Miami builds valuable depth, which is necessary in case of any injuries.

Cleveland gains experience and a proven winner, which their young team is lacking.

Utah clears their glut of big men and fills a position of need.

The only team that might turn it down is Boston, because of likely chemistry issues in losing 5 rotation players.
Way too much for Boston to give up. Can't trade Collins.  We need his size.

+ 13? That's it????

Hollinger is a joke.
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 04, 2013, 08:15:48 PM
Thats turrible.
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: Sketch5 on February 04, 2013, 08:17:17 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxxw33q

Here's my counter to that trade.  All parties stand to benefit here.

Miami builds valuable depth, which is necessary in case of any injuries.

Cleveland gains experience and a proven winner, which their young team is lacking.

Utah clears their glut of big men and fills a position of need.

The only team that might turn it down is Boston, because of likely chemistry issues in losing 5 rotation players.
Way too much for Boston to give up. Can't trade Collins.  We need his size.

+ 13? That's it????

Hollinger is a joke.

Its because Collins is in the deal and out of town. We would be a +68 if he stays in Boston...P
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: lightspeed5 on February 04, 2013, 08:18:37 PM
Despite what has been reported, the Los Angeles Clippers are not in trade conversations with the Boston Celtics to pursue Kevin Garnett, according to NBA officials.

The Clippers haven't had any trade discussions with the Celtics on a deal that would send Eric Bledsoe and Caron Butler to Boston for Garnett.

The Clippers are not likely to even consider trading Bledsoe until they see whether Chris Paul signs a contract extension this upcoming offseason.

Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: action781 on February 04, 2013, 09:24:11 PM
You are probably the same guys who laughed at me when I said we would get Garnett way before anybody else thought of KG! If it can be looked up look it up! I said we could get KG for Jefferson, G. Green, Gomes, & Rondo. What happened? It happened & I laughed softly no need for even throwing a I told you so out there. Now I not saying this will happen, but KG,D-12 & CP-3 have all been traded for poop platters in their primes before so anything is possible.

You are the biggest troll I've ever met.  You're account was created on 7/13/2008 and the celtics acquired KG on 7/31/2008.  And here are some of your quotes though from when you became a member, since you asked us to look:

I would only do this deal if we could also trade Garnett for Yao Ming...

Garnett & Allen for McGrady & Yao would be interesting to say the least & extend our window by 4 years at least. Danny would do that I believe but Houston say delete our numbers from your phone danny! This friendship is over. lol

I dont know about you guys, but I would Trade Ray Allen & Rondo for Al Jefferson anyday of the week. Heck I would even throw in Perk if they gave us Brewer in return. Then I would definitely turn up the Stephon debate because he would have to be my starter then. But Allen & Rondo for Al by himself is a no-brainer!

Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 04, 2013, 09:28:20 PM
You are probably the same guys who laughed at me when I said we would get Garnett way before anybody else thought of KG! If it can be looked up look it up! I said we could get KG for Jefferson, G. Green, Gomes, & Rondo. What happened? It happened & I laughed softly no need for even throwing a I told you so out there. Now I not saying this will happen, but KG,D-12 & CP-3 have all been traded for poop platters in their primes before so anything is possible.

You are the biggest troll I've ever met.  You're account was created on 7/13/2008 and the celtics acquired KG on 7/31/2008.  And here are some of your quotes though from when you became a member, since you asked us to look:

I would only do this deal if we could also trade Garnett for Yao Ming...

Garnett & Allen for McGrady & Yao would be interesting to say the least & extend our window by 4 years at least. Danny would do that I believe but Houston say delete our numbers from your phone danny! This friendship is over. lol

I dont know about you guys, but I would Trade Ray Allen & Rondo for Al Jefferson anyday of the week. Heck I would even throw in Perk if they gave us Brewer in return. Then I would definitely turn up the Stephon debate because he would have to be my starter then. But Allen & Rondo for Al by himself is a no-brainer!

He's a troll? really?
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: KG_ended_Bias on February 04, 2013, 09:38:16 PM
The Lakers say no.

For the Clippers it's not at all laughable.  Once again people underestimate
the impact on the game of basketball of one Kevin Garnett.

Billups, Bledsoe and Terry could get the job done with Griffin, Garnett and D. Jordan.

Chris Paul, most talented player in the deal, but in the game of basketball the superstars do take away a bit of light from the others, including backups.  How many minutes of Bledsoe with a healthy Chris Paul?  Not enough. He goes to waste (not Paul's fault). 

Bottom line:  42 minutes of Bledsoe and 38 minutes of Garnett better than 42 minutes of Chris Paul and no Garnett.

Clippers lose the deal on talent and improve their title hopes.

(pick up Rondo to boot)


Thanks for actually answering the question & reading the idea without giving a snobbish remark! Celticsblog is becoming less & less enjoyable everyday due to the constant flow jerks who don't know how to reply without saying something nice or not at all. Great website when people answer knowledgeable rather than untolerable.

And no i'm not a troll my former name before KG_ended was Man_of_thrill, I switched my name because of KG coming thought it would be cooler Mr. Know it all! Anything else unknowledgeable you wanna add Celtic Concourse?
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: Geo123 on February 04, 2013, 10:53:26 PM
Heck why you're at it why don't we just trade Bass and Lee + filler and get Lebron also.  That has just as much chance happening as your trade does...
Title: Re: Who says no to this trade blowup 3-way? Celts/Lakes/Clips
Post by: Moranis on February 04, 2013, 11:07:21 PM
I am now dumber after reading this thread.