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Title: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 02, 2013, 04:22:56 PM
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: hpantazo on February 02, 2013, 04:25:04 PM
I think it has no effect. The only factors that matter now are what can we get in return for Pierce and will Pierce want to go to that team. We are not contending, so it doesn't matter if we can replace Piece's play this year or not.
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: bucknersrevenge on February 02, 2013, 04:26:04 PM
No. Green's play is irrelevant in assessing Pierce's trade value.
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: Snakehead on February 02, 2013, 04:54:04 PM
I think it has no effect. The only factors that matter now are what can we get in return for Pierce and will Pierce want to go to that team. We are not contending, so it doesn't matter if we can replace Piece's play this year or not.

This exactly.

I love Greens play but it's really irrelevant.
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: lightspeed5 on February 02, 2013, 04:55:37 PM
I think it has no effect. The only factors that matter now are what can we get in return for Pierce and will Pierce want to go to that team. We are not contending, so it doesn't matter if we can replace Piece's play this year or not.
we are contending. we can beat the miami heat with or without rondo.

Why? D-wades game has dropped dramatically, and avery bradley just re-emphasizes that everytime we play.
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: CelticsFan9 on February 02, 2013, 05:06:04 PM
I think it has no effect. The only factors that matter now are what can we get in return for Pierce and will Pierce want to go to that team. We are not contending, so it doesn't matter if we can replace Piece's play this year or not.
we are contending. we can beat the miami heat with or without rondo.

Why? D-wades game has dropped dramatically, and avery bradley just re-emphasizes that everytime we play.

Unless LeBron goes down, or KG and Pierce turn back the clock, we can't beat Miami in a seven-game series.
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: OttawaCeltic on February 02, 2013, 05:19:30 PM
Not happening
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: PhoSita on February 02, 2013, 06:17:36 PM
Jeff Green's play has very little effect on my willingness to trade Pierce.  Trading Pierce is a move for the future at the expense of the present.  There's no illusion that Green could maintain the status quo if he stepped into a starting role.
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: CelticG1 on February 02, 2013, 06:58:37 PM
No because even if he ends up scoring like Pierce 2 things we need now more than anything is rebounding and playmaking (and leading) and that isn't something Green is doing anytime soon.
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: Tr1boy on February 02, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Jeff Green in the end of it all could be a valuable 6th man type vs full out starter

Green def has skills to be a starter but his value off the bench is greater, bc he can fill in for multiple positions. Also the less pressure he has felt, the better he has played.

We need to worry about filling in for Pierce after this/next season. Hopefully we can grab a steal on the draft

Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: manl_lui on February 02, 2013, 07:28:05 PM
no, it means we should still compete even with Rondo out...
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: OsirusCeltics on February 02, 2013, 07:47:04 PM
I am still confused why Doc doesn't start Green and bench Pierce
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: Snakehead on February 02, 2013, 07:54:56 PM
I am still confused why Doc doesn't start Green and bench Pierce

Even if you thought Green was better than Pierce, we would need Pierce's passing in the first unit.
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: crimson_stallion on February 02, 2013, 11:26:01 PM
No
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: chambers on February 03, 2013, 12:16:22 AM
No, his recent play has been good, but he's always been good against bum/terrible teams.
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: bfrombleacher on February 03, 2013, 12:57:21 AM
No, his recent play has been good, but he's always been good against bum/terrible teams.

It's true. The Magic, the Kings, the Heat. Bum teams right there.
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: chambers on February 03, 2013, 02:43:54 AM
No, his recent play has been good, but he's always been good against bum/terrible teams.

It's true. The Magic, the Kings, the Heat. Bum teams right there.

He beats up on weaker teams and struggles to find consistency against .500 or higher teams.
I'm a Jeff Green fan but you can't rely on his recent play as a pretext for moving Paul Pierce. lol.
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: jyyzzoel on February 03, 2013, 04:31:59 AM
jeff is a mediocre player. paul is a lot better than jeff, even at this point in his career. danny wont trade paul for a bunch of mediocre players. unless something amazing comes up, paul pierce is retiring a celtic - and i say that not in an emotionally stubborn way, but realistically, what are you going to trade paul for? gallinari and filler? lol.

paul is an asset, even if he stays on the team, and the money comes off the books. there's no use in using the money up on bad players.  if danny can get a player with a per of 18 or more, he'll move him - if not he won't... which in all reason says he won't. 

now if kg wants to go to the clippers for deandre jordan and bledsoe, then thats a deal... but i think kg and paul retire as celtics - at this stage in their careers you really cant get back equal value for them (or it's very unlikely you can), and danny knows this.

and danny wont accept being lowballed by any GM.
Title: Re: Does Jeff Green's recent play make it easier to deal Pierce?
Post by: j804 on February 03, 2013, 04:41:23 AM
jeff is a mediocre player. paul is a lot better than jeff, even at this point in his career. danny wont trade paul for a bunch of mediocre players. unless something amazing comes up, paul pierce is retiring a celtic - and i say that not in an emotionally stubborn way, but realistically, what are you going to trade paul for? gallinari and filler? lol.

paul is an asset, even if he stays on the team, and the money comes off the books. there's no use in using the money up on bad players.  if danny can get a player with a per of 18 or more, he'll move him - if not he won't... which in all reason says he won't. 

now if kg wants to go to the clippers for deandre jordan and bledsoe, then thats a deal... but i think kg and paul retire as celtics - at this stage in their careers you really cant get back equal value for them (or it's very unlikely you can), and danny knows this.

and danny wont accept being lowballed by any GM.
His leadership and what it is to be a Celtic instilled on younger players alone is worth it. Leave the Captain alone. >:(