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Title: Sully out for the year
Post by: diddybop on February 01, 2013, 03:30:15 PM
Per Woj, he needs surgery and is done for the season.

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/297441092629057536
Title: Whoa? Sullinger out for the year?
Post by: CoachBo on February 01, 2013, 03:30:39 PM
Per Twitter reports from Y.

Back surgery.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: rondohondo on February 01, 2013, 03:30:47 PM
BLOW IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Celtic on February 01, 2013, 03:31:09 PM
This is terrible.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: celticinorlando on February 01, 2013, 03:31:24 PM
Snake bit....pure and simple
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Fred Roberts on February 01, 2013, 03:31:45 PM
ugh
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: CelticSooner on February 01, 2013, 03:32:14 PM
Well there was a big reason he fell as far as he did. Looks like the shoe finally dropped. *Sigh*
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: diconzo on February 01, 2013, 03:32:29 PM
BLOW IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

+1

This is devastating. Love Sully & Rondo. Wishing them both quick recoveries!
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Fafnir on February 01, 2013, 03:33:20 PM
This would be why he fell in the draft I guess.  >:(

Man this has been a rough season.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: papa shuttlesworth on February 01, 2013, 03:34:13 PM
sigh...
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: TheLegendaryClub on February 01, 2013, 03:35:04 PM
The worst part is that I have zero confidence in Wilcox lasting the rest of the season either.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: crownontherocks on February 01, 2013, 03:35:32 PM
Here comes the paul pierce trade rumors
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: celticinorlando on February 01, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
Man...this season has spiraled into the 7th layer of hell
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on February 01, 2013, 03:35:40 PM
Well this is a shocking way to return to work after my lunch break!

Man, this blows. So does this mean we'll get to see even more minutes for a bad-shooting Bass? Please, Danny, go get a decent big or three, or detonate this mess.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: diddybop on February 01, 2013, 03:35:47 PM
He really was a joy to watch. Worked his ass off every single night.

What a terrible week for the Celtics.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on February 01, 2013, 03:36:42 PM
The worst part is that I have zero confidence in Wilcox lasting the rest of the season either.

I love Wilcox, but I'm sure you're right about this.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: rondohondo on February 01, 2013, 03:36:57 PM
if you thought Sully was slow and not athletic before , just imagine what he will be like after the surgery. His only role in the NBA is to be a banger, doubt he has a very long career after this....
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: droopdog7 on February 01, 2013, 03:37:09 PM
All I gotta say is, Melo Time!

But seriously, hoping the kid gets some time with the boys at least on occasion.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: ScottHow on February 01, 2013, 03:38:27 PM
wow, just wow
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 01, 2013, 03:38:45 PM
Now you can blow it up.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: rondohondo on February 01, 2013, 03:39:11 PM
the worst part is Rondo and Sully were 2 of the c's best trade chips. Both done for the year and their trade value just went down a whole bunch
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Interceptor on February 01, 2013, 03:39:17 PM
You've got to be kidding me.    >:(
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 01, 2013, 03:40:01 PM
I don't believe it until the Celtics say it though.  ;) Woj has been wrong
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Roy H. on February 01, 2013, 03:40:26 PM
This sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Snakehead on February 01, 2013, 03:41:22 PM
My one true bright spot this season snuffed out.

Heartbreaking.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: jpd985 on February 01, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
This sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks.

I am with you on that. He was one of my favorite players to watch this year.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Roy H. on February 01, 2013, 03:41:44 PM
I don't believe it until the Celtics say it though.  ;) Woj has been wrong

I'd be very surprised if he was wrong on this, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: ScottHow on February 01, 2013, 03:42:11 PM
This sucks
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: syfy9 on February 01, 2013, 03:42:24 PM
I feel so much more hurt with this injury than Rondo's...and I was pretty devastated when I heard Rondo was out...
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: rondohondo on February 01, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
don't worry, our savior is now on the active roster

(http://media.kjonline.com/images/Melo.jpg)

The black Freddy Mercury will lead us to # 18, yea..
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: AshyLarry on February 01, 2013, 03:44:38 PM
[dang]. I'm not surprised. But [dang]. That's a hit.

I met him on Tuesday, the day before he left the Sac game with the injury, at a charity signing, talked to him for a bit, complemented his game, called him a future all sar, blah blah great season blah blah.

I took a picture with him, and asked if I could post up on him for the picture, and he obliged.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/734830_10151369217498965_1062587130_n.jpg)

I'm sorry guys, I can't help but feel as if this is my fault.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Roy H. on February 01, 2013, 03:48:02 PM
[dang]. I'm not surprised. But [dang]. That's a hit.

I met him on Tuesday, the day before he left the Sac game with the injury, at a charity signing, talked to him for a bit, complemented his game, called him a future all sar, blah blah great season blah blah.

I took a picture with him, and asked if I could post up on him for the picture, and he obliged.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/734830_10151369217498965_1062587130_n.jpg)

I'm sorry guys, I can't help but feel as if this is my fault.

Yeah, your unorthodox post technique clearly caused him to contort into an awkward position, damaging his back.

But you're absolved, assuming you didn't do the same thing to Rondo last week.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: j804 on February 01, 2013, 03:50:54 PM
This explains Melo being called up, Doc and Danny knew it probably since yesterday.

Sheesh this sucks. Sully was that bright spot with his rebounding that was HUGE for us. We are done. Danny probably makes a trade now....Bass and Fab for who? Bass and Jet?
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Birdman on February 01, 2013, 03:51:26 PM
noooooooooooooo :'(
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: mkogav on February 01, 2013, 03:52:21 PM
First Rondo and now Sully. I guess Bradley is next.

Mk
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: ScottHow on February 01, 2013, 03:52:27 PM
I've killed seeing young Celtics building blocks go down.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Donoghus on February 01, 2013, 03:52:35 PM
This ruined my Friday.  Awful news.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Humble G on February 01, 2013, 03:53:04 PM
rondo out for the year = sad face  :( but SULLY out for the year= heart and all hope ripped out of chest and ran over by 34,000 oompa loompas singing some dumb song about drafting him  :'( ...............ugh
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: mgent on February 01, 2013, 03:53:29 PM
We all knew this was coming.  Such a ridiculous and ready player dropping that far?  It was too good to be true.

Did people think so many teams passed on him for no reason?  Celtics were only willing to take the chance because we needed rebounding so unbelievably bad.

Good luck Sully, come back soon.  You're gonna make the rookie-sophmore game next year.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: indeedproceed on February 01, 2013, 03:53:42 PM
This is so brutal. Man this is a tough year. Stick a fork in us, blow it up, let's get some future assets.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 01, 2013, 03:53:45 PM
Wow, this sucks balls...
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 01, 2013, 03:53:58 PM
if you thought Sully was slow and not athletic before , just imagine what he will be like after the surgery. His only role in the NBA is to be a banger, doubt he has a very long career after this....

I think I'll wait till I hear the nature of the surgery and the recovery prognosis before drifting into 'career over' depression over this.   Maybe this is an OK in the long run thing.  Yes, I doubt it too.

Unfortunately, we are still too talented to fall to top 5 in the draft unless we go full blow-up fast.   If Rondo and Sully can both come back 100% they are 2 very good pieces.  Of course, they are now lost as trade chips.

Another really sad Celtics day.   I would think that Danny's mindset would have to be completely changed by this.  It's now about trading for tomorrow. 

 
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: The Rondo Show on February 01, 2013, 03:54:13 PM
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: ctrey on February 01, 2013, 03:54:29 PM
Ainge should be fired for picking this guy. He was damaged goods and now he is toast. Once your back goes it is gone forever. Particularly when you are built like Sullinger is.

Totally wasted draft: Sullinger is already hurt and Melo can not play the game. Well done Celtic scouting department and "Brain Trust".
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: j804 on February 01, 2013, 03:54:42 PM
Should Doc have limited his minutes and gave him off days? :-\

I guess this was going to happen sooner or later.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 01, 2013, 03:55:49 PM
man when it rains it freakin pours huh? stunning news. hate to see the kid miss the season after such a great start.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Who on February 01, 2013, 03:55:58 PM
Ugh, another gut-wrenching blow to the stomach ...
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 01, 2013, 03:56:53 PM
Two solid jabs to deter our path to our championship, nothing more.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: ScottHow on February 01, 2013, 03:57:16 PM
if you thought Sully was slow and not athletic before , just imagine what he will be like after the surgery. His only role in the NBA is to be a banger, doubt he has a very long career after this....

I think I'll wait till I hear the nature of the surgery and the recovery prognosis before drifting into 'career over' depression over this.   Maybe this is an OK in the long run thing.  Yes, I doubt it too.

Unfortunately, we are still too talented to fall to top 5 in the draft unless we go full blow-up fast.   If Rondo and Sully can both come back 100% they are 2 very good pieces.  Of course, they are now lost as trade chips.

Another really sad Celtics day.   I would think that Danny's mindset would have to be completely changed by this.  It's now about trading for tomorrow. 

 

Hopefully this was going to happen eventually, and once it did he gets surgery and is fixed.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: AshyLarry on February 01, 2013, 03:57:24 PM
FAB MELO TIME. POSITIVITY. FAB FAB FAB FAB!!!
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: angryguy77 on February 01, 2013, 03:57:45 PM
I've come to the conclusion that since 2009, God hates the Celtics.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: scaryjerry on February 01, 2013, 03:59:10 PM
Two solid jabs to deter our path to our championship, nothing more.


Welp...you're not BudweiserCeltic for nothin.

All kidding aside...this is a huge blow and Im impressed by your optimism, keep it up brotha..


Ugh
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Roy H. on February 01, 2013, 03:59:22 PM
Two solid jabs to deter our path to our championship, nothing more.

... and two solid jabs that hopefully won't affect our rebuilding going forward.  Rondo and Sully are presumably big parts of our hoped for future, and I don't want either to be limited.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: AshyLarry on February 01, 2013, 04:00:01 PM
[dang]. I'm not surprised. But [dang]. That's a hit.

I met him on Tuesday, the day before he left the Sac game with the injury, at a charity signing, talked to him for a bit, complemented his game, called him a future all sar, blah blah great season blah blah.

I took a picture with him, and asked if I could post up on him for the picture, and he obliged.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/734830_10151369217498965_1062587130_n.jpg)

I'm sorry guys, I can't help but feel as if this is my fault.

Yeah, your unorthodox post technique clearly caused him to contort into an awkward position, damaging his back.

But you're absolved, assuming you didn't do the same thing to Rondo last week.

If I did, I just would not meet players anymore. Avoid the bad juju.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Roy H. on February 01, 2013, 04:00:25 PM
I've come to the conclusion that since 2009, God hates the Celtics.

[since 1986]
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Boris Badenov on February 01, 2013, 04:00:54 PM
This has been a bad couple of weeks for Boston sports fans.

Even all of this A-Rod news is failing to raise my mood.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: JOMVP on February 01, 2013, 04:01:26 PM
I am going to start a petition to change the name of the Celtics. Lucky (our mascot) is far from what our team should be described as. If we have any promising young players, something always happens to them. This sucks, I'm more stung by this one than Rondo going down.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 01, 2013, 04:01:47 PM
Two solid jabs to deter our path to our championship, nothing more.


Welp...you're not BudweiserCeltic for nothin.

All kidding aside...this is a huge blow and Im impressed by your optimism, keep it up brotha..


Ugh

This roster wasn't built to depend on a rookie for success. It was nice that he played good for us, but we'll be fine.

More worried about our depth than missing Sully specifically for our playoff run.

Two roster spots open, a big needs to fill at least one of them, careful if we don't use the remaining two, though I still contend we need a third SF to fill our roster appropriately.

We'll see.

With no Sully, Bass is a better fit with the rest of the roster... same as Sully was a better fit without Bass in it.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: JoT on February 01, 2013, 04:02:14 PM
This seriously sucks.
I promise I want to know what in the heck did the Celtics do to keep having players fall like this.
It's like they don't want this team to get banner 18 or something because every year since banner 17 a player or two has fallen due to injury.

I wish Sully the best and hope he can overcome this.

Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: jarufu on February 01, 2013, 04:03:36 PM
Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.! ! now I am upset. 
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: ScottHow on February 01, 2013, 04:07:24 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: erisred on February 01, 2013, 04:09:13 PM
When he was drafted it was said that he might need surgery soon, even this year. We got a half season of play, he got some experience, before his back went. OK. It's bad but people do come back from back surgery... sometimes.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: action781 on February 01, 2013, 04:09:56 PM
Yikes, that sucks.  I hope he recovers well and comes back strong after surgery.

I don't think this is a "fork sticking" blow though.  If you thought Rondo was, I can understand that.  While Sullinger was a great rebounder for us, he was 9th on our team in minutes per game.  He's not a "crucial" player.  For me, I'm more concerned about his long term rehab.

I'm still optimistic about this year.  By no means are we favorites, but I think we've still got a puncher's chance.  I think that this injury is going to provide more consistent minutes for Bass, similar to what he got last season, and I think we're going to see his production rise back up to the level he played at last season.  It will also provide some more minutes for Jeff Green and we'll get to see what he can do with those.

Let's see how it turns out!
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Spicoli on February 01, 2013, 04:10:58 PM
Horrible. Horrible news. Oh my God, i'm so sad right now. This guy was a joy to watch.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: snively on February 01, 2013, 04:19:40 PM
Yikes, that sucks.  I hope he recovers well and comes back strong after surgery.

I don't think this is a "fork sticking" blow though.  If you thought Rondo was, I can understand that.  While Sullinger was a great rebounder for us, he was 9th on our team in minutes per game.  He's not a "crucial" player.  For me, I'm more concerned about his long term rehab.

I'm still optimistic about this year.  By no means are we favorites, but I think we've still got a puncher's chance.  I think that this injury is going to provide more consistent minutes for Bass, similar to what he got last season, and I think we're going to see his production rise back up to the level he played at last season.  It will also provide some more minutes for Jeff Green and we'll get to see what he can do with those.

Let's see how it turns out!

I think Rondo and Sully were our 1st and 5th best players, respectively.  It's a pretty big blow. 

Sully had quietly elevated us from the pits of rebounding ineptitude in addition to his modest offensive garbage man contributions. 

With Sully and Rondo out, we don't have a single above-average rebounder left on this team other than KG on a good day. 

Nasty little blow.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: j804 on February 01, 2013, 04:21:16 PM
Yikes, that sucks.  I hope he recovers well and comes back strong after surgery.

I don't think this is a "fork sticking" blow though.  If you thought Rondo was, I can understand that.  While Sullinger was a great rebounder for us, he was 9th on our team in minutes per game.  He's not a "crucial" player.  For me, I'm more concerned about his long term rehab.

I'm still optimistic about this year.  By no means are we favorites, but I think we've still got a puncher's chance.  I think that this injury is going to provide more consistent minutes for Bass, similar to what he got last season, and I think we're going to see his production rise back up to the level he played at last season.  It will also provide some more minutes for Jeff Green and we'll get to see what he can do with those.

Let's see how it turns out!
I feel like this hurtens that punchers chance for us. I mean you saw how he looked against NY even against the Heat he was solid. He's our only real rebounder (aside from KG and Do)
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: BballTim on February 01, 2013, 04:23:05 PM
This sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks.

  Aside from drafting PP that might be Pitino's biggest contribution to Celtics nation.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 01, 2013, 04:23:51 PM
Expletive.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Roy H. on February 01, 2013, 04:24:13 PM
This sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks.

  Aside from drafting PP that might be Pitino's biggest contribution to Celtics nation.

Perry Jones is not walking through that door.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: ACF on February 01, 2013, 04:24:29 PM
(http://stayabreast.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/smashing_keyboards.png)
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: rondohondo on February 01, 2013, 04:25:34 PM
(http://stayabreast.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/smashing_keyboards.png)

ha tp
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Chief Macho on February 01, 2013, 04:26:33 PM
drinking.  heavily. 
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: diddybop on February 01, 2013, 04:27:59 PM
I assume it's surgery for the herniated discs. Anyone know much about recovery with this injury? How long it takes/will it get rid of his back issue for good once he's back/other players that had similar issues and came back?

At least Sully's game has always been a low-to-the-ground one, and doesn't involve serious athleticism, high vertical leap etc...It's a big blow, but I just hope he comes back strong next year.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: boscel33 on February 01, 2013, 04:29:18 PM
time for danny to have the chat with pierce.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Boris Badenov on February 01, 2013, 04:33:32 PM
I assume it's surgery for the herniated discs. Anyone know much about recovery with this injury? How long it takes/will it get rid of his back issue for good once he's back/other players that had similar issues and came back?

At least Sully's game has always been a low-to-the-ground one, and doesn't involve serious athleticism, high vertical leap etc...It's a big blow, but I just hope he comes back strong next year.

Prognosis: random.

My wife has had three surgeries, and over the last few years I've talked to many fine back surgeons as well as people who've had surgery.

Bottom line is that the surgery itself (whatever it is, but most commonly a discectomy) might or might not work. You might as well flip a coin.

Then, some people get better and never have another minute of pain. Some people are back on the table a year later. Some people get back to 100% quickly, others take years to recover and are never the same.

There's no way to predict it.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: diddybop on February 01, 2013, 04:35:42 PM
I assume it's surgery for the herniated discs. Anyone know much about recovery with this injury? How long it takes/will it get rid of his back issue for good once he's back/other players that had similar issues and came back?

At least Sully's game has always been a low-to-the-ground one, and doesn't involve serious athleticism, high vertical leap etc...It's a big blow, but I just hope he comes back strong next year.

Prognosis: random.

My wife has had three surgeries, and over the last few years I've talked to many fine back surgeons as well as people who've had surgery.

Bottom line is that the surgery itself (whatever it is, but most commonly a discectomy) might or might not work. You might as well flip a coin.

Then, some people get better and never have another minute of pain. Some people are back on the table a year later. Some people get back to 100% quickly, others take years to recover and are never the same.

There's no way to predict it.

Oofff. Not what I was hoping to read. Hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: action781 on February 01, 2013, 04:37:19 PM
Yikes, that sucks.  I hope he recovers well and comes back strong after surgery.

I don't think this is a "fork sticking" blow though.  If you thought Rondo was, I can understand that.  While Sullinger was a great rebounder for us, he was 9th on our team in minutes per game.  He's not a "crucial" player.  For me, I'm more concerned about his long term rehab.

I'm still optimistic about this year.  By no means are we favorites, but I think we've still got a puncher's chance.  I think that this injury is going to provide more consistent minutes for Bass, similar to what he got last season, and I think we're going to see his production rise back up to the level he played at last season.  It will also provide some more minutes for Jeff Green and we'll get to see what he can do with those.

Let's see how it turns out!

I think Rondo and Sully were our 1st and 5th best players, respectively.  It's a pretty big blow. 

Sully had quietly elevated us from the pits of rebounding ineptitude in addition to his modest offensive garbage man contributions. 

With Sully and Rondo out, we don't have a single above-average rebounder left on this team other than KG on a good day. 

Nasty little blow.
While his play, as a rookie, has pleasantly surprised everyone, I think Green, Bass, Lee, and Terry are more talented NBA players.  They just haven't played like it yet.  I'm hopeful they'll step up and start to play like it now that the pressure is on for them to.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 01, 2013, 04:38:34 PM
Yikes, that sucks.  I hope he recovers well and comes back strong after surgery.

I don't think this is a "fork sticking" blow though.  If you thought Rondo was, I can understand that.  While Sullinger was a great rebounder for us, he was 9th on our team in minutes per game.  He's not a "crucial" player.  For me, I'm more concerned about his long term rehab.

I'm still optimistic about this year.  By no means are we favorites, but I think we've still got a puncher's chance.  I think that this injury is going to provide more consistent minutes for Bass, similar to what he got last season, and I think we're going to see his production rise back up to the level he played at last season.  It will also provide some more minutes for Jeff Green and we'll get to see what he can do with those.

Let's see how it turns out!

I think Rondo and Sully were our 1st and 5th best players, respectively.  It's a pretty big blow. 

Sully had quietly elevated us from the pits of rebounding ineptitude in addition to his modest offensive garbage man contributions. 

With Sully and Rondo out, we don't have a single above-average rebounder left on this team other than KG on a good day. 

Nasty little blow.
While his play, as a rookie, has pleasantly surprised everyone, I think Green, Bass, Lee, and Terry are more talented NBA players.  They just haven't played like it yet.  I'm hopeful they'll step up and start to play like it now that the pressure is on for them to.

I'll say this much, no way is Bass to be considered more talented than Sully in any context of the discussion.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: scaryjerry on February 01, 2013, 04:43:32 PM
Two solid jabs to deter our path to our championship, nothing more.


Welp...you're not BudweiserCeltic for nothin.

All kidding aside...this is a huge blow and Im impressed by your optimism, keep it up brotha..


Ugh

This roster wasn't built to depend on a rookie for success. It was nice that he played good for us, but we'll be fine.

More worried about our depth than missing Sully specifically for our playoff run.

Two roster spots open, a big needs to fill at least one of them, careful if we don't use the remaining two, though I still contend we need a third SF to fill our roster appropriately.

We'll see.

With no Sully, Bass is a better fit with the rest of the roster... same as Sully was a better fit without Bass in it.

Sully directly addressed our biggest weakness...idc if the roster was built to depend on a rookie...most rosters aren't....but it played out that way.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: pp34isthe1 on February 01, 2013, 04:43:51 PM
I know the what ifs are not relevant but geez did those back to back overtimes really kill the season. I know Rondos injury happened in the 4th but if we didnt ease back and let them get into it i doubt the injury happens. The heavy minutes of those games killed Sullys back. Oh well, the injuries could of happened anyways.

Gahh I'm going to get some whiskey. Here's to sully having a good back in the future and hopefully some minutes/experience for Fab.

P.S. I hate this season
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: crownontherocks on February 01, 2013, 04:52:20 PM
From the Celtics: Jared Sullinger underwent successful lumbar disc surgery today at the New England Baptist Hospital.

Sullinger is expected to be ready for the start of the 2013-14 training camp.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: action781 on February 01, 2013, 04:52:30 PM
Yikes, that sucks.  I hope he recovers well and comes back strong after surgery.

I don't think this is a "fork sticking" blow though.  If you thought Rondo was, I can understand that.  While Sullinger was a great rebounder for us, he was 9th on our team in minutes per game.  He's not a "crucial" player.  For me, I'm more concerned about his long term rehab.

I'm still optimistic about this year.  By no means are we favorites, but I think we've still got a puncher's chance.  I think that this injury is going to provide more consistent minutes for Bass, similar to what he got last season, and I think we're going to see his production rise back up to the level he played at last season.  It will also provide some more minutes for Jeff Green and we'll get to see what he can do with those.

Let's see how it turns out!

I think Rondo and Sully were our 1st and 5th best players, respectively.  It's a pretty big blow. 

Sully had quietly elevated us from the pits of rebounding ineptitude in addition to his modest offensive garbage man contributions. 

With Sully and Rondo out, we don't have a single above-average rebounder left on this team other than KG on a good day. 

Nasty little blow.
While his play, as a rookie, has pleasantly surprised everyone, I think Green, Bass, Lee, and Terry are more talented NBA players.  They just haven't played like it yet.  I'm hopeful they'll step up and start to play like it now that the pressure is on for them to.

I'll say this much, no way is Bass to be considered more talented than Sully in any context of the discussion.
I look at the numbers and production that Bass gave us down the stretch last season and think that in no way is Sullinger ready to give that kind of production in the playoffs for a sustained period of time.

While Bass hasn't played the same this season, he obviously hasn't become 20% less talented of a player in the last 7 months.  He still has what he gave us last season, he just has to find it.  And while I think Sullinger has the potential to surpass that level of play, I don't think he's there yet.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Boris Badenov on February 01, 2013, 04:54:34 PM
Anyone else wonder what would be happening if we were 38-7 instead of 22-23?

My understanding is that there are many non-surgical approaches to back pain, and that it can be "managed" - it's not like a broken leg where you just can not play under any circumstances.

But I have a feeling Danny might be throwing in the towel.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Mr October on February 01, 2013, 04:54:35 PM
man this is a blow. The Celtics have no longer been contenders this year for a while. But at least it has been fun to watch the young guys continue to grow. Man, Sullinger was 1 of the most fun to watch.

Bradley, hold it together, buddy!
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Fafnir on February 01, 2013, 04:57:18 PM
Anyone else wonder what would be happening if we were 38-7 instead of 22-23?

My understanding is that there are many non-surgical approaches to back pain, and that it can be "managed" - it's not like a broken leg where you just can not play under any circumstances.

But I have a feeling Danny might be throwing in the towel.
Nope I had the same thought, I don't blame Danny or Sullinger. With Rondo lost for the season they should be conservative with an injury to a young player like Sullinger.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 01, 2013, 04:57:29 PM
Give it a chance.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: crownontherocks on February 01, 2013, 04:58:41 PM
BOSTON - The Boston Celtics announced forward Jared Sullinger underwent successful lumbar disc surgery today at the New England Baptist Hospital. Surgery was performed by the medical staff at the New England Baptist Hospital which is under the direction of Celtics Team Physician, Dr. Brian McKeon. Sullinger is expected to be ready in time for training camp for the 2013-14 season.

Sullinger, a 6’9” forward, appeared in 45 games for the Celtics this season averaging 6.0 points and 5.9 rebounds in 19.8 minutes per game. He posted a season-high of 16 rebounds against Phoenix on January 9 and recorded a season-high of 16 points twice (November 18 against Detroit, December 25 against Brooklyn).
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 01, 2013, 04:58:51 PM
all our trade chips are dropping like flies. 

And ladies and gentlemen... that's why Jared Sullinger drops to the late 1st round.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: diddybop on February 01, 2013, 05:00:35 PM
It's hard to imagine that losing a rookie could lead to the Celtics blowing it up, but Jared led us in +/-. This is a big loss.

And just as looking forward to watching the C's become a scrappy grind it out team with the AB/Lee backcourt, our frontcourt just lost a very valuable player. Ouch.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: rondohondo on February 01, 2013, 05:00:37 PM
Danny obviously knew this when he made the comments about having a talk with PP if a good trade comes along .
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: KGs Knee on February 01, 2013, 05:06:32 PM
Wow, been busy all day and just saw the news.  DEPRESSING!

I feel bad for Sully.  He was having a really nice rookie season.  So much promise.

I'm laughing at the reactions by some here though.  I mean, seriously, dude is a rookie, he wasn't going to alter out outcome.  The same folks who are saying without Rondo we'll he better, are saying we're doomed without Sully.  Man, talk about clueless.

This is exactly why I was angry we drafted him.  How could anyone not see it coming? Once he established even a little value, DA should have traded him.  Too late now.

This sucks for the team and Sully, and I would never wish this on anyone.  I feel a little vindicated to be honest though.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 01, 2013, 05:07:02 PM
Now you can blow it up.

Lol!! You finally cracked huh lol.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: jbaerg on February 01, 2013, 05:09:31 PM
Pretty sure they're just removing a problem that could have gotten much much worse if left unchecked. We weren't going to do anything this year anyway. Just gotta get built back up for the future :)
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 01, 2013, 05:10:40 PM
Now you can blow it up.

Lol!! You finally cracked huh lol.

Nah.  Take that back. We're still able to get to the ECF at the minimum
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: j804 on February 01, 2013, 05:11:27 PM
KG just lost his brotha he battles with as if he wasn't already gone next year he'll be done
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: jarufu on February 01, 2013, 05:14:27 PM
Wow, been busy all day and just saw the news.  DEPRESSING!

I feel bad for Sully.  He was having a really nice rookie season.  So much promise.

I'm laughing at the reactions by some here though.  I mean, seriously, dude is a rookie, he wasn't going to alter out outcome.  The same folks who are saying without Rondo we'll he better, are saying we're doomed without Sully.  Man, talk about clueless.

This is exactly why I was angry we drafted him.  How could anyone not see it coming? Once he established even a little value, DA should have traded him.  Too late now.

This sucks for the team and Sully, and I would never wish this on anyone.  I feel a little vindicated to be honest though.

I liked watching this kid play basketball.  He's someone to root for. It's not the same as KG going down but it's still a bummer . . .
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on February 01, 2013, 05:22:32 PM
Well, I'm not giving up but *no-ban-filter*, what did you fans do to this franchise before I came aboard? I mean, can the team go ONE season HEALTHY. It's ALMOST depressing but I'm too delusional to not think this team can win at any time and through any circumstance (well, talk to me if *God forbid* KG or PP go down... might be sent to Peace River)! I'm not giving up but to be honest my eyes got a little watery b/c I'm thinking we can never catch a break! I'd be scared in the years to come, we end up with a franchise player and they go down too... someone (cHeat/Faker fan), must practice Voodoo! It's almost funny...



I need to give up being a sports fan! This is too much. I was watching "Brain Games" on H2, they say the strong feelings we have when watching sports is b/c our brain tricks us into believing we are actually performing the action the athletes are (like when they shoot the ball or something, we think it's us doing it). Someone needs to study whether sports shorten the lives of fans... I can't imagine all the people who have had heart attacks or something after watching some type of sporting event. I always wondered why I felt like I was going to pass out when my teams didn't perform well. Stupid (cool) brain, why won't you make me not care, idiot!


Oops, I forgot to add that Doc is a boldfaced liar! Look at his interview from yesterday's practice! I won't believe another word he says again!
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 01, 2013, 05:24:32 PM
Now you can blow it up.

Lol!! You finally cracked huh lol.

Nah.  Take that back. We're still able to get to the ECF at the minimum

lol.....
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Bankshot on February 01, 2013, 05:25:27 PM
Snake bit....pure and simple

Snake bit since 2009! >:( :'(
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Interceptor on February 01, 2013, 05:25:30 PM
Oops, I forgot to add that Doc is a boldfaced liar! Look at his interview from yesterday's practice! I won't believe another word he says again!
"Doc" is just a nickname, you know.  :P
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Chris on February 01, 2013, 05:32:18 PM

Oops, I forgot to add that Doc is a boldfaced liar! Look at his interview from yesterday's practice! I won't believe another word he says again!

I do wonder what the team knew yesterday.  I also am curious just how bad this injury is.  Based on Sully's predisposition the back injuries, I wonder if this surgery is a bit preventative.

What I mean is, he is a young guy, with hopefully a long future, but clearly the back is an issue.  A lot of times players are able to play through the pain with a back issue, and real with it later, or hope it corrects itself.  Perhaps as late as yesterday, they were considering just that. 

But, then maybe after conferring more, they just decided that with Rondo already out, there was no use delaying it, and potentially making things worse, when there wasn't much of a chance of contending anyways.  So, they decided to just go straight to the surgery, and fix it right, in the hopes of having him back on the court earlier next year, rather than messing around with it, and perhaps risking more of the future.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on February 01, 2013, 05:32:32 PM
Oops, I forgot to add that Doc is a boldfaced liar! Look at his interview from yesterday's practice! I won't believe another word he says again!
"Doc" is just a nickname, you know.  :P

Yea, LOL. I'm starting to think his real name is Satan! Grant your wish (chip in 08 *that I wasn't a part of as a fan*), for a price, then boom, you find out the price was your first born (players health/no stars choose to come here unless they are on their last leg)...
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: blink on February 01, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
All I have to say at this point, is everyone is wishing you the best Sully.  You have been a huge bright spot in our season, and we'll be pulling for you to make a full recovery.  If the surgery was a must, might as well happen now.  We can all lower our expectations a bit, and just enjoy the ride for the rest of the year, no matter what happens.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on February 01, 2013, 05:40:12 PM
All I have to say at this point, is everyone is wishing you the best Sully.  You have been a huge bright spot in our season, and we'll be pulling for you to make a full recovery.  If the surgery was a must, might as well happen now.  We can all lower our expectations a bit, and just enjoy the ride for the rest of the year, no matter what happens.

I wish I could a half TP but I can't so I'll give you one just b/c I love the first part.

My expectations haven't lowered though!
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: vinnie on February 01, 2013, 05:45:22 PM
Wow, been busy all day and just saw the news.  DEPRESSING!

I feel bad for Sully.  He was having a really nice rookie season.  So much promise.

I'm laughing at the reactions by some here though.  I mean, seriously, dude is a rookie, he wasn't going to alter out outcome.  The same folks who are saying without Rondo we'll he better, are saying we're doomed without Sully.  Man, talk about clueless.

This is exactly why I was angry we drafted him.  How could anyone not see it coming? Once he established even a little value, DA should have traded him.  Too late now.

This sucks for the team and Sully, and I would never wish this on anyone.  I feel a little vindicated to be honest though.

With you almost 100 percent on this post. The only disagreement is I was not angry when Ainge drafted Sully. Everything else is spot on. Rondo injury -- no problem. Sully injury -- season's over.  ::)
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on February 01, 2013, 05:53:00 PM
Get Well, Sully.

He still has a bright future ahead of him in Green.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: blink on February 01, 2013, 05:55:37 PM
All I have to say at this point, is everyone is wishing you the best Sully.  You have been a huge bright spot in our season, and we'll be pulling for you to make a full recovery.  If the surgery was a must, might as well happen now.  We can all lower our expectations a bit, and just enjoy the ride for the rest of the year, no matter what happens.

I wish I could a half TP but I can't so I'll give you one just b/c I love the first part.

My expectations haven't lowered though!

Ok, you have reminded me to keep the faith!  cmon Wilcox! haha  tp back at you for the optimism.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: celtics2 on February 01, 2013, 05:59:00 PM
His back was a time bomb waiting to go off, no surprise.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: More Banners on February 01, 2013, 06:03:36 PM
Bad news since I like him so much as a player.  An underrated passer, which is a great skill for a big.

So now we rely on Wilcox being healthy...oh, crap.

KG, Wilcox, and Bass should be a decent big lineup, but it isn't, given Bass' recent play and Wilcox' perpetual injuries.

Time to start making, and not just listening, to phone calls, Danny. 
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: crownontherocks on February 01, 2013, 06:06:40 PM
Danny Ainge on Jared Sullinger: "Jared is going to be fine."

Ainge says the surgery was a "long-term" decision for Sully, says specialists told him it should fix Sully's back for good.

Danny Ainge says he doesn't expect Fab Melo to get many opportunities right now.

Ainge sad about Sully injury but has faith in Celtics: "We're not ready to cave in yet."
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: ManUp on February 01, 2013, 06:22:39 PM
wow I haven't checked in all day and this is the news i get. :(
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Tr1boy on February 01, 2013, 06:28:06 PM
Danny Ainge on Jared Sullinger: "Jared is going to be fine."

Ainge says the surgery was a "long-term" decision for Sully, says specialists told him it should fix Sully's back for good.

Danny Ainge says he doesn't expect Fab Melo to get many opportunities right now.

Ainge sad about Sully injury but has faith in Celtics: "We're not ready to cave in yet."

This is super bad news. Sully was awesome, but if this straighten his back out good, then i'm all for it. If he straighten his back out via surgery before the draft, or did it before his sophmore college year, he would of prob gone in the lotto.

Sully i bet comes back in training in better shape than now. Got a bright future with us
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: Kane3387 on February 01, 2013, 06:35:20 PM
wow I haven't checked in all day and this is the news i get. :(

Same here. Sucks. I can't believe this. Guessing its the same surgery as Dwight. Well at least athleticism wasn't his game.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: syfy9 on February 01, 2013, 06:50:21 PM
I've come to the conclusion that since 2009, God hates the Celtics.

[since 1986]

With the exception of the 2008 season.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: hpantazo on February 01, 2013, 06:59:04 PM
Danny Ainge on Jared Sullinger: "Jared is going to be fine."

Ainge says the surgery was a "long-term" decision for Sully, says specialists told him it should fix Sully's back for good.

Danny Ainge says he doesn't expect Fab Melo to get many opportunities right now.

Ainge sad about Sully injury but has faith in Celtics: "We're not ready to cave in yet."

Sounds great to me. If this is really fixing his back issue long term, and it also basically prevents us from trading him this year, it's a win for us. We aren't going to the finals this year anyway.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: bfrombleacher on February 01, 2013, 07:02:49 PM
Went to bed without a care in the world.

WAKES UP TO THIS!!!!!!!???

But seriously. Bridge year. Push as far as we can this year, collect more assets for another run next year is what I think.
Title: Re: Sully out for the year
Post by: rondohondo on February 01, 2013, 07:04:37 PM
Went to bed without a care in the world.

WAKES UP TO THIS!!!!!!!???

But seriously. Bridge year. Push as far as we can this year, collect more assets for another run next year is what I think.
another run to the 8th seed?