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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: krook on February 01, 2013, 06:02:20 AM
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Why? Explain!
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I became a Celtic fan because when I started following the NBA, the first game I saw (in 07-08), Rondo struck me as a ridiculous odd force of nature, even amongst the big three. So let's say we swap Pierce for Rondo in the question, because ultimately, that doesn't matter.
Over time, however, I fell in love with their defensive focus, and the way the Celtics organisation carried itself over it's grand history, spanning several dynasties, with a great many retired numbers and famous coaches.
Hard work, teamplay, defense first. Between Larry, Red and Bill, there is nothing any franchise can offer that will top the Boston legacy.
Hence, I'll bleed green 'till I bleed no more.
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I became a Celtic fan because when I started following the NBA, the first game I saw (in 07-08) Rondo struck me as a ridiculous odd force of nature, even amongst the big three.
Over time, however, I fell in love with their defensive focus, and the way the Celtics organisation carried itself over it's grand history, spanning several dynasties, with a great many retired numbers and famous coaches.
Hard work, teamplay, defense first. Between Larry, Red and Bill, there is nothing any franchise can offer that will top the Boston legacy.
Hence, I'll bleed green 'till I bleed no more.
even pierce or rondo or kg traded? lets say example pierce for luke walton?
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I became a Celtic fan because when I started following the NBA, the first game I saw (in 07-08) Rondo struck me as a ridiculous odd force of nature, even amongst the big three.
Over time, however, I fell in love with their defensive focus, and the way the Celtics organisation carried itself over it's grand history, spanning several dynasties, with a great many retired numbers and famous coaches.
Hard work, teamplay, defense first. Between Larry, Red and Bill, there is nothing any franchise can offer that will top the Boston legacy.
Hence, I'll bleed green 'till I bleed no more.
even pierce or rondo or kg traded? lets say example pierce for luke walton?
Hehe, I thought I made it pretty clear; as long as the Celtics organisation resides in Boston, I'll cheer for the Green team.
Now if they'd move the franchise to a different city, as they did with OKC for example, I might reconsider.
Otherwise, I'm a Celtics fan.
Even if they trade the entire team, fire the front office and change owners. Even if they sell the parquet.
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Yes, but I will also root for the team that Paul gets traded to.
I've been there, when Antoine (the reason why I became a Celtics fan) got traded to Miami. I was happy for him when he won his championship with Shaq, Payton, Mourning and that thug. I was extremely disappointed as well since we did not make the playoffs and 'Toine is getting a ring. But still root for the Celtics, the only one in my neighborhood who are all Lakers fans, and my brother a Dallas fan.
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I became a Celtic fan because when I started following the NBA, the first game I saw (in 07-08) Rondo struck me as a ridiculous odd force of nature, even amongst the big three.
Over time, however, I fell in love with their defensive focus, and the way the Celtics organisation carried itself over it's grand history, spanning several dynasties, with a great many retired numbers and famous coaches.
Hard work, teamplay, defense first. Between Larry, Red and Bill, there is nothing any franchise can offer that will top the Boston legacy.
Hence, I'll bleed green 'till I bleed no more.
even pierce or rondo or kg traded? lets say example pierce for luke walton?
Yeah because that's probable?
I really don't think there's many fans of individuals over the franchise here? Although I'd gladly root for the individuals who wore the Celtics uniform elsewhere while remaining a Celtics fan
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Man you really love posting poll questions, haha.
It's called being indoctrinated as a fan into professional sports. You have a Perkins-esque scowl on your face for a week or two and then eventually start concentrating on the team we do have.
Eventually we get a Pierce retirement video montage & ceremony anyways; we'll get our closure.
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i will be very disappointed if theytrade pierce...but seriously, asking celts fans if they would stop rooting for the celts?!?! :-\
of course we still root for them!
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If Cs need to trade, the only folks avalaible are KG/PP/Rondo and Green.
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I've rooted for the laundry my entire life and will continue to no matter what happens with Pierce.
However, it would still pain the heck out of me to see Pierce go and I don't want to see it happen. I want him to be a Celtic for his entire career. He started with the Celts when I was in high school and he's still here now as I'm a thirtysomething. I was too young to appreciate Bird's prime so Pierce has been "the guy" for me and left an indelible mark.
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If you only "became a Celtics fan because of Pierce" then you're quite obviously not a Celtics fan. You're a Paul Pierce fan.
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I doubt there are a ton of fans who only became Celtics fans due to Pierce. Maybe some folks from Kansas who liked him in college, but otherwise I don't think Pierce was ever the type of superstar who developed his own following independent of the Celtics.
Now, I do think there are a lot of folks who only became a Celtics fan because of KG. He already had his own engrained fan base before he got here, and he probably got a few bandwagoners from the New England area to follow the team, as well. I would expect many of those fans would stop following the Celtics if he retires or is traded.
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What if you only became a celts fan because of PP and he retires?
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Many became fans because of Russell, Hondo, Cowens, or Bird, and they retired, but we are still here.
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I doubt there are a ton of fans who only became Celtics fans due to Pierce. Maybe some folks from Kansas who liked him in college, but otherwise I don't think Pierce was ever the type of superstar who developed his own following independent of the Celtics.
Now, I do think there are a lot of folks who only became a Celtics fan because of KG. He already had his own engrained fan base before he got here, and he probably got a few bandwagoners from the New England area to follow the team, as well. I would expect many of those fans would stop following the Celtics if he retires or is traded.
Spot on. That's me, big KG fan. Though I would still follow the Celtics because Rondo came along and I'm a fan too.
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I doubt there are a ton of fans who only became Celtics fans due to Pierce. Maybe some folks from Kansas who liked him in college, but otherwise I don't think Pierce was ever the type of superstar who developed his own following independent of the Celtics.
Now, I do think there are a lot of folks who only became a Celtics fan because of KG. He already had his own engrained fan base before he got here, and he probably got a few bandwagoners from the New England area to follow the team, as well. I would expect many of those fans would stop following the Celtics if he retires or is traded.
This is very accurate...I think Ray had a few of those to a lesser degree...but there's absolutely no question there were an abundance of kg fans that became Celtics fans...and Celtics fans became pierce fans..I'm sure there were a few people from Inglewood or Kansas that wouldn't have become Celtics fans if it weren't for him including pierce himself...but not many on these forums if I had to guess
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"If You Only Became A Celtics Fan Because Of Pierce"
Then you're probably young and don't know the history of the C's.
;D
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"If You Only Became A Celtics Fan Because Of Pierce"
Then you're probably young and don't know the history of the C's.
;D
Bingo. So good riddance, if you stop being a C's fan.
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If you only "became a Celtics fan because of Pierce" then you're quite obviously not a Celtics fan. You're a Paul Pierce fan.
Koz, right there with you, but for me (speaking for me only) I would say "If you only became a Cs fan because of PP, and you don't root for them after he leaves, you never were a Celtics fan." Slight distinction, I know, but one that would be important to me.
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If you only "became a Celtics fan because of Pierce" then you're quite obviously not a Celtics fan. You're a Paul Pierce fan.
Koz, right there with you, but for me (speaking for me only) I would say "If you only became a Cs fan because of PP, and you don't root for them after he leaves, you never were a Celtics fan." Slight distinction, I know, but one that would be important to me.
While I don't like the whole "you are not a fan" argument, I do think there is something to this. There is a difference between a fan of a player and a fan of a team.
For example, I am a fan of Kevin Durant, but that doesn't make me a fan of the Thunder.
Generally, a fan of any team roots for the laundry, no matter who is wearing it.
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KG brought me to this team but I already had a respect for the organization and heritage of this ballclub. I suspect many who like Pierce won't stop following the team when he retires or is traded.
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I became a Celtic fan because when I started following the NBA, the first game I saw (in 07-08) Rondo struck me as a ridiculous odd force of nature, even amongst the big three.
Over time, however, I fell in love with their defensive focus, and the way the Celtics organisation carried itself over it's grand history, spanning several dynasties, with a great many retired numbers and famous coaches.
Hard work, teamplay, defense first. Between Larry, Red and Bill, there is nothing any franchise can offer that will top the Boston legacy.
Hence, I'll bleed green 'till I bleed no more.
even pierce or rondo or kg traded? lets say example pierce for luke walton?
Hehe, I thought I made it pretty clear; as long as the Celtics organisation resides in Boston, I'll cheer for the Green team.
Now if they'd move the franchise to a different city, as they did with OKC for example, I might reconsider.
Otherwise, I'm a Celtics fan.
Even if they trade the entire team, fire the front office and change owners. Even if they sell the parquet.
This ^^
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Pierce will forever be my favorite player. His style of play, cool calm demeanor, etc. Was always an Atlantic Division fan. But It was him that attracted me to the Celtics, and become a hardcore fan
But like others said, I'll always be a hardcore fan if Paul gets traded. And I'll surely root for whatever team Paul gets on, even if its a rival team
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I doubt there are a ton of fans who only became Celtics fans due to Pierce. Maybe some folks from Kansas who liked him in college, but otherwise I don't think Pierce was ever the type of superstar who developed his own following independent of the Celtics.
Now, I do think there are a lot of folks who only became a Celtics fan because of KG. He already had his own engrained fan base before he got here, and he probably got a few bandwagoners from the New England area to follow the team, as well. I would expect many of those fans would stop following the Celtics if he retires or is traded.
How is it weird that someone became a Celtics fan because of Pierce, but not because of KG? Don't get that
Its still a player-attracted fandom
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Why? Explain!
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I have been a celtic since the early to mid 80's i would say. WHo in their right mind chose a player over a team to begin with? I mean really?
oh wait, i forgot I know plenty people who just root for lebron no matter what team he is on. bigtime bandwagoners following the heat. more than people realize.
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I doubt there are a ton of fans who only became Celtics fans due to Pierce. Maybe some folks from Kansas who liked him in college, but otherwise I don't think Pierce was ever the type of superstar who developed his own following independent of the Celtics.
Now, I do think there are a lot of folks who only became a Celtics fan because of KG. He already had his own engrained fan base before he got here, and he probably got a few bandwagoners from the New England area to follow the team, as well. I would expect many of those fans would stop following the Celtics if he retires or is traded.
How is it weird that someone became a Celtics fan because of Pierce, but not because of KG? Don't get that
Its still a player-attracted fandom
I don't think he is saying it's "weird", just less common, purely because KG had what? 10 years to build a fan base separate from the C's fanbase before coming to Boston. Pierce on the other hand spent his whole career with the C's, so chances are the majority of the fans were C's fans in the first place.
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Many became fans because of Russell, Hondo, Cowens, or Bird, and they retired, but we are still here.
This. (Add the Cooz, and the man with the cigar...aided and abetted by Johnny Most ;))
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I doubt there are a ton of fans who only became Celtics fans due to Pierce. Maybe some folks from Kansas who liked him in college, but otherwise I don't think Pierce was ever the type of superstar who developed his own following independent of the Celtics.
Now, I do think there are a lot of folks who only became a Celtics fan because of KG. He already had his own engrained fan base before he got here, and he probably got a few bandwagoners from the New England area to follow the team, as well. I would expect many of those fans would stop following the Celtics if he retires or is traded.
This is very accurate...I think Ray had a few of those to a lesser degree...but there's absolutely no question there were an abundance of kg fans that became Celtics fans...and Celtics fans became pierce fans..I'm sure there were a few people from Inglewood or Kansas that wouldn't have become Celtics fans if it weren't for him including pierce himself...but not many on these forums if I had to guess
I became a celtics fan because of kg. I began to appreciate pierce's talents as a player as a result
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I doubt there are a ton of fans who only became Celtics fans due to Pierce. Maybe some folks from Kansas who liked him in college, but otherwise I don't think Pierce was ever the type of superstar who developed his own following independent of the Celtics.
Now, I do think there are a lot of folks who only became a Celtics fan because of KG. He already had his own engrained fan base before he got here, and he probably got a few bandwagoners from the New England area to follow the team, as well. I would expect many of those fans would stop following the Celtics if he retires or is traded.
How is it weird that someone became a Celtics fan because of Pierce, but not because of KG? Don't get that
Its still a player-attracted fandom
Hmmn...kg was one of the most popular players in nba history, spent over a decade building a fan base on one of the worst franchises...there was as many kg fans as wolves fans...he had a large following from casual fans and a die-hard kg cult like following...when he was traded those people became Celtics fans. No one has become a Celtics fan because of pierce...more than likely they were already a Celtics fan and became a pierce fan as well growing up with him on their team....I find it a bit strange you became a Celtics fan because of pierce...but wouldn't find it weird in the event he was traded you decided to root for that team too....but it's enlightening to know you're so in love with pierce and saw his immature underachieving career pre kg and are as critical of rondo as you are....
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I became a fan because of Johnny Most, John Havlicek, Dave Cowens, Jo Jo White, Paul Silas, Hank Finkel, and Coach Heinsohn and reading all of the Red Auerbach stories and that victory cigar. I believe that God plucked my out of the rafters of Boston Garden dropped me headfirst through the hoop into the circle of life. One day with Green Q33 inscribed on my gravestone, I will wake up and report to practice with Coach Auerbach.
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Growing up mostly in the 90s, I began to understand and appreciate basketball right around the time Paul Pierce was drafted. Although I lived in New York, my father had been a Celtic fan since the days of Russell and Cousy so I natural took an interest in this team. Paul had been my favorite Celtic as far as I could remember. To me, I never really knew the Celtics without him as I'm still in my early 20s. But I do love this team and everything they stand for. I admire the rich history of this team and will never forget how happy I was to see them win it all back in 2008. So basically, while it pains me to see the Pierce era close, I know we will see greatness in Boston again. Who knows when, but a franchise this great is bound to pick itself up at some point. And until that day comes, I will continue to root for whoever is sent out there for the guys in green.
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I doubt there are a ton of fans who only became Celtics fans due to Pierce. Maybe some folks from Kansas who liked him in college, but otherwise I don't think Pierce was ever the type of superstar who developed his own following independent of the Celtics.
Now, I do think there are a lot of folks who only became a Celtics fan because of KG. He already had his own engrained fan base before he got here, and he probably got a few bandwagoners from the New England area to follow the team, as well. I would expect many of those fans would stop following the Celtics if he retires or is traded.
How is it weird that someone became a Celtics fan because of Pierce, but not because of KG? Don't get that
Its still a player-attracted fandom
Hmmn...kg was one of the most popular players in nba history, spent over a decade building a fan base on one of the worst franchises...there was as many kg fans as wolves fans...he had a large following from casual fans and a die-hard kg cult like following...when he was traded those people became Celtics fans. No one has become a Celtics fan because of pierce...more than likely they were already a Celtics fan and became a pierce fan as well growing up with him on their team....I find it a bit strange you became a Celtics fan because of pierce...but wouldn't find it weird in the event he was traded you decided to root for that team too....but it's enlightening to know you're so in love with pierce and saw his immature underachieving career pre kg and are as critical of rondo as you are....
I'm a diehard Pierce fan, whats your point? Just because I criticize Rondo, who you have a man-crush on, doesn't mean you have to attack me
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I doubt there are a ton of fans who only became Celtics fans due to Pierce. Maybe some folks from Kansas who liked him in college, but otherwise I don't think Pierce was ever the type of superstar who developed his own following independent of the Celtics.
Now, I do think there are a lot of folks who only became a Celtics fan because of KG. He already had his own engrained fan base before he got here, and he probably got a few bandwagoners from the New England area to follow the team, as well. I would expect many of those fans would stop following the Celtics if he retires or is traded.
How is it weird that someone became a Celtics fan because of Pierce, but not because of KG? Don't get that
Its still a player-attracted fandom
Hmmn...kg was one of the most popular players in nba history, spent over a decade building a fan base on one of the worst franchises...there was as many kg fans as wolves fans...he had a large following from casual fans and a die-hard kg cult like following...when he was traded those people became Celtics fans. No one has become a Celtics fan because of pierce...more than likely they were already a Celtics fan and became a pierce fan as well growing up with him on their team....I find it a bit strange you became a Celtics fan because of pierce...but wouldn't find it weird in the event he was traded you decided to root for that team too....but it's enlightening to know you're so in love with pierce and saw his immature underachieving career pre kg and are as critical of rondo as you are....
I'm a diehard Pierce fan, whats your point? Just because I criticize Rondo, who you have a man-crush on, doesn't mean you have to attack me
I'm not criticizing you...it just makes sense that you don't like to see the young rondo get credit for being better then your binky so you take away from him as much as possible...but what was pierce pre kg? Overweight, immature, not a leader, etc etc
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I became a fan of the Celtics because of Ray Allen.
AWKWARD.
Fortunately, the team grew on me in the meantime, so I did a straight-across fandom swap. Seems to be working out.
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Although I became a celts fan because of pierce, i fell in love with the organisation and its defensive mind
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I'm 23 and I became a fan in 2000. Pierce is my favorite player and I'd hate to see him go, but he's not above the franchise.
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I doubt there are a ton of fans who only became Celtics fans due to Pierce. Maybe some folks from Kansas who liked him in college, but otherwise I don't think Pierce was ever the type of superstar who developed his own following independent of the Celtics.
Now, I do think there are a lot of folks who only became a Celtics fan because of KG. He already had his own engrained fan base before he got here, and he probably got a few bandwagoners from the New England area to follow the team, as well. I would expect many of those fans would stop following the Celtics if he retires or is traded.
How is it weird that someone became a Celtics fan because of Pierce, but not because of KG? Don't get that
Its still a player-attracted fandom
Hmmn...kg was one of the most popular players in nba history, spent over a decade building a fan base on one of the worst franchises...there was as many kg fans as wolves fans...he had a large following from casual fans and a die-hard kg cult like following...when he was traded those people became Celtics fans. No one has become a Celtics fan because of pierce...more than likely they were already a Celtics fan and became a pierce fan as well growing up with him on their team....I find it a bit strange you became a Celtics fan because of pierce...but wouldn't find it weird in the event he was traded you decided to root for that team too....but it's enlightening to know you're so in love with pierce and saw his immature underachieving career pre kg and are as critical of rondo as you are....
I'm a diehard Pierce fan, whats your point? Just because I criticize Rondo, who you have a man-crush on, doesn't mean you have to attack me
I'm not criticizing you...it just makes sense that you don't like to see the young rondo get credit for being better then your binky so you take away from him as much as possible...but what was pierce pre kg? Overweight, immature, not a leader, etc etc
See thats the difference between me and you
When people criticize Pierce, I almost always agree with them. Look at my older posts
People say Pierce is getting old. I say of course, he's 35 playing the perimeter position
I have said numerous times Pierce should be benched for Green
Pierce is very guilty of causing turnovers in the passing lane, and have critcized him alot for it
I have said numerous times Pierce is getting old and should not guard Lebron or any premier players and other players on the team should guard them
But when I criticize Rondo, you go into full on man-crush mode like Rondo can do no wrong. I say Rondo has no jumpshot, the team plays better without him, as many playoff accomplishments he has equal playoff blunders, Pierce and KG are more important for the Celtics than Rondo, etc.
That isn't hating. That is criticism and also my opinion. Don't worry, you're man-crush isn't going to be threatened because one poster criticizes rondo
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would fans buy a ticket without pierce kg and rondo?
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I was always a Celtic fan long before Pierce, but I watched the Celtics more closely and religiously since Pierce was drafted. I'll be mad as heck at the Celtics if he was traded and would probably become a fan of his new team, but I'd still root for my home team.
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would fans buy a ticket without pierce kg and rondo?
Yes.
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would fans buy a ticket without pierce kg and rondo?
Yes.
i've notice some fans says, if danny trade pierce i'm done with the celtics,
how will this affect the fans? facebook main celtics page, live celtics game, celtics jersey #34 etc etc; paul peirce fan page?
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As a youngster, I became a fan in the early 2000's in large part because of Pierce. I will continue to be a fan after he's gone.
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I started watching basketball in 91-92, the season the Bulls met the Blazers in the Finals, but being so young that was all I really knew in terms of the game. When I entered my teen years, I started watching and learning more about the history of the game and took a liking to the Celtics because of Pierce and also because they are basically the home team for Boston as well as the New England region, seeing as that is where I reside. However, if he were to be traded, my loyalty would remain with the Celtics. I'd still root for Pierce wherever he might potentially end up; however, it wouldn't change my affinity for the organization.
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would fans buy a ticket without pierce kg and rondo?
Yes.
i've notice some fans says, if danny trade pierce i'm done with the celtics,
how will this affect the fans? facebook main celtics page, live celtics game, celtics jersey #34 etc etc; paul peirce fan page?
Celtics are the Celtics. They'll be fine.
They were drawing in the mid-2000s when things were down. They have a solid fanbase foundation.
I could care less about the fanpages. They are what they are.
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I've been a Celtics fan since first becoming hooked on basketball back in 1981 when I was eleven. My favorite player back then was Tiny Archibald.
I didn't like Paul Pierce when we first drafted him. My feelings were influenced by the fact that he was the big star for Kansas, and my beloved Rhody Rams had just pulled the big upset over them en route to the sweet sixteen. I wanted to see my hero, Cat Mobley, show that he could compete with Kansas' star player. He did, and the Rams won.
2002 was definitely the year that Pierce started to win me over. That trip to the Eastern Conference finals was a magical run for me. My oldest daughter was born in May of that year during the Nets series. I fondly remembering cradling my newborn and watching the Celtics complete a twenty-one point fourth quarter comeback against the Nets in those playoffs.
I became a huge Pierce fan back then, and for me, although I grew up during the Bird Era, I feel like he is my generation's primary Celtic legend. He's battled through good times and bad and has come through it all as one of the greatest to ever put on the green uniform.
I really want to see him retire in Celtic green. I feel like the organization owes him and the fans that opportunity. The rebuild is going to come. That's inevitable. I don't see any reason to rush it.
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If you stop being a Celtics fan because Pierce is traded, were you ever actually a Celtics fan? Or can you call yourself a Celtics fan currently for that matter?
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I am a fan of the team, not one person. if they trade PP I will be sad a little as I like the Captain but I love the C's. This works for me but it might not work for you.
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This thread made me think.
I became a Bruin's fan (or so I thought) in the early 70's. I loved Phil Esposito especially. When he was traded I almost immediately lost interest. To this day, I am not a hockey or Bruins fan.
While I had favorite C's players, I was always a Celtics fan first. Not sure why this was different, but it was, and always has been. It's always been about the C's as a team, first and foremost. This is why I am OK with any trade that makes the team better.
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As a youngster, I became a fan in the early 2000's in large part because of Pierce. I will continue to be a fan after he's gone.
I got the same exact story as you
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I've been a Celtics fan since first becoming hooked on basketball back in 1981 when I was eleven. My favorite player back then was Tiny Archibald.
I didn't like Paul Pierce when we first drafted him. My feelings were influenced by the fact that he was the big star for Kansas, and my beloved Rhody Rams had just pulled the big upset over them en route to the sweet sixteen. I wanted to see my hero, Cat Mobley, show that he could compete with Kansas' star player. He did, and the Rams won.
2002 was definitely the year that Pierce started to win me over. That trip to the Eastern Conference finals was a magical run for me. My oldest daughter was born in May of that year during the Nets series. I fondly remembering cradling my newborn and watching the Celtics complete a twenty-one point fourth quarter comeback against the Nets in those playoffs.
I became a huge Pierce fan back then, and for me, although I grew up during the Bird Era, I feel like he is my generation's primary Celtic legend. He's battled through good times and bad and has come through it all as one of the greatest to ever put on the green uniform.
I really want to see him retire in Celtic green. I feel like the organization owes him and the fans that opportunity. The rebuild is going to come. That's inevitable. I don't see any reason to rush it.
looks like we are the same age. ;D
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I would follow Pierce more than the Celtics, but the Celtics have always been and will be #1
now let's all pray that NEVER happens
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I'd still root for the C's if they traded Pierce, BUT:
Paul Pierce NEEDS to retire in Green.
Bill Russell did it.
Larry Bird did it.
Now? It's Paul's turn.
The Celtics are NOT like most NBA franchises...there IS tradition, here.
Paul Pierce has earned that right to retire in Celtics Green....he endured the Lean Years....he endured the stabbing - only to come back the next season and play 82 games....he's been one of the most durable, dependable and talented Celtics EVER....on and on and on...
It's for those reasons and many more that I can't think of off the top of my head why I'm a C's fan despite Paul Pierce.
But Danny would be ripping the heart out of the Franchise if Paul was to go to another team via a trade - IMO.
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Hmmn...kg was one of the most popular players in nba history, spent over a decade building a fan base on one of the worst franchises...there was as many kg fans as wolves fans...he had a large following from casual fans and a die-hard kg cult like following...when he was traded those people became Celtics fans. No one has become a Celtics fan because of pierce...more than likely they were already a Celtics fan and became a pierce fan as well growing up with him on their team....I find it a bit strange you became a Celtics fan because of pierce...but wouldn't find it weird in the event he was traded you decided to root for that team too....but it's enlightening to know you're so in love with pierce and saw his immature underachieving career pre kg and are as critical of rondo as you are....
So we're describing KG too? The guy who used to fight his own teammates in practice in Minny? I swear Kevin Garnett is so overrated now. He's an awesome player and such, but he was just as underachieving a player as Pierce was before they played together. He has several faults himself.
Pierce is an incredibly undervalued player in this city, and it still bothers me that anyone would blame him for the Celtics' lack of success early in his career. There is not one player in this league who could have succeeded on this team with the way it was being run before Ainge. It took Ainge three years of dismantling and stocking young talent to become a viable trading partner. The team was full of junk and albatross salary. Pierce played half his career without a good point guard and a player who could grab 10 boards a game (hell, even 8 ). Most of his prime years were spent with Antoine, Ricky Davis, or Wally as second options. Some guys talk about Garnett's "terrible" situation in Minny..let's talk about Pierce's situation. Management, the players, and the coaching was far worse here than it was in Minny before Ainge and Doc.
And yes, I did become a Celtic fan because of Pierce and the 2002 ECF run. I was 12 years old, and Pierce was freakin' awesome. He made me into a diehard Celtic fan, and I will be a fan when he retires. If he is traded, I will be pretty angry, but I will still be a fan of the C's.
It really grinds my gears when people treat Garnett like some kind of savior or saint and treat Pierce like some former malcontent, replaceable player. Most balanced fans understand that we needed both to win, and both of them (along with Ray) needed each other but surfing between here and realGM the last few weeks has been headache inducing. I've seen fans talking about getting rid of Pierce because he is old and trash now, but when the same fans are asked about KG, they say "no! he's the heart and soul! we can't get rid of him, he should retire here!". I mean how much disrespect can you have for the OG Celtic of this era? Maybe it's 'cause we saw Pierce in the bad years and some automatically associate all of that with him (however unfair that is). Pierce's greatest and most immature (only immature moment for me) was when he came out of the locker room with bandages around his face after the 2005 playoffs. But that's it. I guess if Pierce went to Minny, he would be the "savior" of their franchise. Who knows.
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cant stand people who only follow players and not teams. Fair enough if you followed bird or magic. but seriously have faith in a team
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I'd probably have a break from nba for a while, a couple months, but I'd still follow celtics. I started because of pierce, but I got latched on to the celtics and the way of playing and going about things. I wouldn't be as irritated if he went to a team where he could win immediately, give him one more chance at a ring
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but why is there a fan who says he is celtics, while saying trade everyone on team?
what does it called?
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but why is there a fan who says he is celtics, while saying trade everyone on team?
what does it called?
They're still a Celtics fan. They just think the window is absolutely shut on this current group and wants to see the team rebuild from scratch.
I don't agree with the view but understand where these people come from and you can still call them fans.
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I'd probably have a break from nba for a while, a couple months, but I'd still follow celtics. I started because of pierce, but I got latched on to the celtics and the way of playing and going about things. I wouldn't be as irritated if he went to a team where he could win immediately, give him one more chance at a ring
He is winning immediately (i.e., presently), and is with a team where he has a chance to win one more ring! That's my story, and I am sticking to it!!!
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cant stand people who only follow players and not teams. Fair enough if you followed bird or magic. but seriously have faith in a team
Agreed, if everybody on this current celtics team was traded tomorrow id still be a celtics fan. That's what being a real fan is. You don't just root for the team until your favorite players aren't there anymore.
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I'd probably have a break from nba for a while, a couple months, but I'd still follow celtics. I started because of pierce, but I got latched on to the celtics and the way of playing and going about things. I wouldn't be as irritated if he went to a team where he could win immediately, give him one more chance at a ring
He is winning immediately (i.e., presently), and is with a team where he has a chance to win one more ring! That's my story, and I am sticking to it!!!
Your story is fictional but its good.
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I'd probably have a break from nba for a while, a couple months, but I'd still follow celtics. I started because of pierce, but I got latched on to the celtics and the way of playing and going about things. I wouldn't be as irritated if he went to a team where he could win immediately, give him one more chance at a ring
He is winning immediately (i.e., presently), and is with a team where he has a chance to win one more ring! That's my story, and I am sticking to it!!!
Your story is fictional but its good.
I wouldn't say fictional, I would say hopeful. Read my sig and tell me you can read the future if you disagree with it. Why do pessimists always think they are the realistic ones? :P
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I'd probably have a break from nba for a while, a couple months, but I'd still follow celtics. I started because of pierce, but I got latched on to the celtics and the way of playing and going about things. I wouldn't be as irritated if he went to a team where he could win immediately, give him one more chance at a ring
He is winning immediately (i.e., presently), and is with a team where he has a chance to win one more ring! That's my story, and I am sticking to it!!!
Your story is fictional but its good.
I wouldn't say fictional, I would say hopeful. Read my sig and tell me you can read the future if you disagree with it. Why do pessimists always think they are the realistic ones? :P
The celtics winning a championship is more realistic than them not winning one? I mean come on dude, its borderline common sense if you know basketball. This team as currently constructed is not championship material.
They are good enough to win some games and maybe give you some hope of a pipe dream but to think this team can realistically beat miami or the bulls 4 times in a series is far from being realistic. If you were anybody else but a celtics homer you would see it the same way i assure you.
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I'd probably have a break from nba for a while, a couple months, but I'd still follow celtics. I started because of pierce, but I got latched on to the celtics and the way of playing and going about things. I wouldn't be as irritated if he went to a team where he could win immediately, give him one more chance at a ring
This pretty much.
Either he gets traded or he retires, the day Pierce wears his Celtics jersey for the last time will be a day I will remember for the rest of my life. I don't think Imma get so emotionally tied with another player ever, since he was the reason I got to become a Celtics fan (which is now a big part of my life)!
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I'd probably have a break from nba for a while, a couple months, but I'd still follow celtics. I started because of pierce, but I got latched on to the celtics and the way of playing and going about things. I wouldn't be as irritated if he went to a team where he could win immediately, give him one more chance at a ring
He is winning immediately (i.e., presently), and is with a team where he has a chance to win one more ring! That's my story, and I am sticking to it!!!
Your story is fictional but its good.
I wouldn't say fictional, I would say hopeful. Read my sig and tell me you can read the future if you disagree with it. Why do pessimists always think they are the realistic ones? :P
The celtics winning a championship is more realistic than them not winning one? I mean come on dude, its borderline common sense if you know basketball. This team as currently constructed is not championship material.
They are good enough to win some games and maybe give you some hope of a pipe dream but to think this team can realistically beat miami or the bulls 4 times in a series is far from being realistic. If you were anybody else but a celtics homer you would see it the same way i assure you.
In the first place, Miami may win the title this year, but they have not won yet. Neither you nor I know for sure which team will win this year. Just to help you with "your reality check," (the present seems to be giving you problems ;) ) please do not call me "dude," ha ha ha ha ha.
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I'd probably have a break from nba for a while, a couple months, but I'd still follow celtics. I started because of pierce, but I got latched on to the celtics and the way of playing and going about things. I wouldn't be as irritated if he went to a team where he could win immediately, give him one more chance at a ring
He is winning immediately (i.e., presently), and is with a team where he has a chance to win one more ring! That's my story, and I am sticking to it!!!
Your story is fictional but its good.
I wouldn't say fictional, I would say hopeful. Read my sig and tell me you can read the future if you disagree with it. Why do pessimists always think they are the realistic ones? :P
The celtics winning a championship is more realistic than them not winning one? I mean come on dude, its borderline common sense if you know basketball. This team as currently constructed is not championship material.
They are good enough to win some games and maybe give you some hope of a pipe dream but to think this team can realistically beat miami or the bulls 4 times in a series is far from being realistic. If you were anybody else but a celtics homer you would see it the same way i assure you.
In the first place, Miami may win the title this year, but they have not won yet. Neither you nor I know for sure which team will win this year. Just to help you with "your reality check," (the present seems to be giving you problems ;) ) please do not call me "dude," ha ha ha ha ha.
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I'd still root for the C's if they traded Pierce, BUT:
Paul Pierce NEEDS to retire in Green.
Bill Russell did it.
Larry Bird did it.
Now? It's Paul's turn.
The Celtics are NOT like most NBA franchises...there IS tradition, here.
Paul Pierce has earned that right to retire in Celtics Green....he endured the Lean Years....he endured the stabbing - only to come back the next season and play 82 games....he's been one of the most durable, dependable and talented Celtics EVER....on and on and on...
It's for those reasons and many more that I can't think of off the top of my head why I'm a C's fan despite Paul Pierce.
But Danny would be ripping the heart out of the Franchise if Paul was to go to another team via a trade - IMO.
For sure, agree with that. Pierce should retire a Celtic. He's been the face of this franchise for so long, its tradition
Danny can at least rework his contract so Pierce wont be paid as much or let him sit on the bench, whenever his age starts to slow his game down
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its really hard to watched this team with those 2 best player i want to see while watching the game
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I'd probably have a break from nba for a while, a couple months, but I'd still follow celtics. I started because of pierce, but I got latched on to the celtics and the way of playing and going about things. I wouldn't be as irritated if he went to a team where he could win immediately, give him one more chance at a ring
He is winning immediately (i.e., presently), and is with a team where he has a chance to win one more ring! That's my story, and I am sticking to it!!!
Your story is fictional but its good.
I wouldn't say fictional, I would say hopeful. Read my sig and tell me you can read the future if you disagree with it. Why do pessimists always think they are the realistic ones? :P
The celtics winning a championship is more realistic than them not winning one? I mean come on dude, its borderline common sense if you know basketball. This team as currently constructed is not championship material.
They are good enough to win some games and maybe give you some hope of a pipe dream but to think this team can realistically beat miami or the bulls 4 times in a series is far from being realistic. If you were anybody else but a celtics homer you would see it the same way i assure you.
If your criteria for being a contender is that; "winning a championship is more realistic than not winning one" then there is only one team in the league that is a contender.
Should everyone else just give up?
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I'd probably have a break from nba for a while, a couple months, but I'd still follow celtics. I started because of pierce, but I got latched on to the celtics and the way of playing and going about things. I wouldn't be as irritated if he went to a team where he could win immediately, give him one more chance at a ring
He is winning immediately (i.e., presently), and is with a team where he has a chance to win one more ring! That's my story, and I am sticking to it!!!
Your story is fictional but its good.
I wouldn't say fictional, I would say hopeful. Read my sig and tell me you can read the future if you disagree with it. Why do pessimists always think they are the realistic ones? :P
The celtics winning a championship is more realistic than them not winning one? I mean come on dude, its borderline common sense if you know basketball. This team as currently constructed is not championship material.
They are good enough to win some games and maybe give you some hope of a pipe dream but to think this team can realistically beat miami or the bulls 4 times in a series is far from being realistic. If you were anybody else but a celtics homer you would see it the same way i assure you.
If your criteria for being a contender is that; "winning a championship is more realistic than not winning one" then there is only one team in the league that is a contender.
Should everyone else just give up?
Disagree, there aren't any teams in the league that are more likely than not to win the title. Some teams have much better odds than anyone else but that's all.
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I'd probably have a break from nba for a while, a couple months, but I'd still follow celtics. I started because of pierce, but I got latched on to the celtics and the way of playing and going about things. I wouldn't be as irritated if he went to a team where he could win immediately, give him one more chance at a ring
He is winning immediately (i.e., presently), and is with a team where he has a chance to win one more ring! That's my story, and I am sticking to it!!!
Your story is fictional but its good.
I wouldn't say fictional, I would say hopeful. Read my sig and tell me you can read the future if you disagree with it. Why do pessimists always think they are the realistic ones? :P
The celtics winning a championship is more realistic than them not winning one? I mean come on dude, its borderline common sense if you know basketball. This team as currently constructed is not championship material.
They are good enough to win some games and maybe give you some hope of a pipe dream but to think this team can realistically beat miami or the bulls 4 times in a series is far from being realistic. If you were anybody else but a celtics homer you would see it the same way i assure you.
If your criteria for being a contender is that; "winning a championship is more realistic than not winning one" then there is only one team in the league that is a contender.
Should everyone else just give up?
Disagree, there aren't any teams in the league that are more likely than not to win the title. Some teams have much better odds than anyone else but that's all.
I was putting this year's Heat's chances at close to 50/50, but you're probably right, their chances are probably less than that.
That means that by Lightskinsmurf's criteria, there are no contenders. Everyone should just blow it up.
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most of here become celtics fans because of kevin garnett,
also ray allen, and now that he is gone...
i think some left and follow ray ray