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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: KG Living Legend on January 31, 2013, 02:16:58 AM
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Which back up PG could we fetch for a first rounder. Maybe even throw in Avery for the right guy. So who is out there that could be tempted.
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Honestly I don't think it's worth it unless you're getting somebody with really high upside like Eric Bledsoe. But we're not getting him unless we trade Pierce or Garnett.
Anyway, I think the 4 guard rotation the Celtics have got right now is good enough for them to get by the rest of the season, considering the revised goals they ought to have now that Rondo is injured. There's no sense leveraging future assets for the sake of being a bit more competitive this season.
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Too Shay. Good points. I'm just having fum with it to see who we could fetch. Would u trade Pierce or Kevin for Bledsoe
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Honestly I don't think it's worth it unless you're getting somebody with really high upside like Eric Bledsoe. But we're not getting him unless we trade Pierce or Garnett.
Anyway, I think the 4 guard rotation the Celtics have got right now is good enough for them to get by the rest of the season, considering the revised goals they ought to have now that Rondo is injured. There's no sense leveraging future assets for the sake of being a bit more competitive this season.
This. We aren't picking 30th in every round anymore. I feel like a lot of people here are really undervaluing a late-teens draft pick.
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Too Shay. Good points. I'm just having fum with it to see who we could fetch. Would u trade Pierce or Kevin for Bledsoe
For a while now I've said I'd do something along the lines of Pierce + filler for Butler + Bledsoe + filler. Makes even more sense now that Rondo is probably out until November or December and probably won't be 100% back to where he was physically until the 2014-2015 season.
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I'd rather look at FA and patch up for the year.
That guy Jeremy Pargo had some very nice showing in Cleveland for a few games when Kyrie was down, he's worth a look.
I'd give Jonny Flynn a look, he's an NBA level PG.
I'd rather save that pick for a much more significant deal that could help us for the next years FINAL (as my brother says) run.
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I'd rather look at FA and patch up for the year.
That guy Jeremy Pargo had some very nice showing in Cleveland for a few games when Kyrie was down, he's worth a look.
I'd give Jonny Flynn a look, he's an NBA level PG.
I'd rather save that pick for a much more significant deal that could help us for the next years FINAL (as my brother says) run.
I really doubt that Jeremy Pargo or Jonny Flynn would be any better than the Bradley / Lee / Terry / Barbosa committee we've got going.
The truth is, that 4-guard rotation we have won't blow you away with explosive offense, or amazing iso plays, but we'd need to get a legit, above average starting point guard to do better. Anybody who is a free agent right now (i.e. not good enough to be a solid backup for somebody) isn't going to be an upgrade.
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Kirk Hinrich?
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Too Shay. Good points. I'm just having fum with it to see who we could fetch. Would u trade Pierce or Kevin for Bledsoe
For a while now I've said I'd do something along the lines of Pierce + filler for Butler + Bledsoe + filler. Makes even more sense now that Rondo is probably out until November or December and probably won't be 100% back to where he was physically until the 2014-2015 season.
I would hate to see Captain leave, but that's the best we could get in return, and giving him a solid chance at another title.
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I'd rather look at FA and patch up for the year.
That guy Jeremy Pargo had some very nice showing in Cleveland for a few games when Kyrie was down, he's worth a look.
I'd give Jonny Flynn a look, he's an NBA level PG.
I'd rather save that pick for a much more significant deal that could help us for the next years FINAL (as my brother says) run.
I really doubt that Jeremy Pargo or Jonny Flynn would be any better than the Bradley / Lee / Terry / Barbosa committee we've got going.
The truth is, that 4-guard rotation we have won't blow you away with explosive offense, or amazing iso plays, but we'd need to get a legit, above average starting point guard to do better. Anybody who is a free agent right now (i.e. not good enough to be a solid backup for somebody) isn't going to be an upgrade.
Oh I agree. Completely.
I'm just saying, if we are indeed looking for another PG, i'd rather go FA than trade our 1st rounder for one.
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More realistic will be Billups if you trade Terry or Lee or Bass
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I'd rather look at FA and patch up for the year.
That guy Jeremy Pargo had some very nice showing in Cleveland for a few games when Kyrie was down, he's worth a look.
I'd give Jonny Flynn a look, he's an NBA level PG.
I'd rather save that pick for a much more significant deal that could help us for the next years FINAL (as my brother says) run.
I really doubt that Jeremy Pargo or Jonny Flynn would be any better than the Bradley / Lee / Terry / Barbosa committee we've got going.
The truth is, that 4-guard rotation we have won't blow you away with explosive offense, or amazing iso plays, but we'd need to get a legit, above average starting point guard to do better. Anybody who is a free agent right now (i.e. not good enough to be a solid backup for somebody) isn't going to be an upgrade.
Oh I agree. Completely.
I'm just saying, if we are indeed looking for another PG, i'd rather go FA than trade our 1st rounder for one.
Well there we can be in complete agreement. I am completely opposed to trading any pick for anything but a potentially valuable future asset at this point. I don't care how weak this draft supposedly is.
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Which back up PG could we fetch for a first rounder. Maybe even throw in Avery for the right guy. So who is out there that could be tempted.
I'm not giving up a first rounder for a backup PG.
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But more important now is to get a Big center rather than PG
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Our deepest position is guard. Would be a waste to grab a "true" pg.
Im sure our guards are better over all players than most PG's we could get. Id rather just have better overall talent on the floor which is what we need most.
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Depends on your definition of "realistic", but if I am Danny, I keep Sacramento on speed dial about Evans. If they are not going to resign him this summer, when he is a RFA, they may be interested in getting something for him now (think Memphis with Mayo last year), and may consider something like Lee and the C's first rounder.
I think Evans needs a change of scenery, and he could be a special player on a team like Boston, who will really appreciate his ability to take the ball to the hoop, and his overall toughness.
I was less thrilled with him playing next to Rondo, but with Rondo out, its a great chance to take a look at him for a couple months, and maybe hope he can regain some of his ROY form to help this team make a little noise in the playoffs.
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Depends on your definition of "realistic", but if I am Danny, I keep Sacramento on speed dial about Evans. If they are not going to resign him this summer, when he is a RFA, they may be interested in getting something for him now (think Memphis with Mayo last year), and may consider something like Lee and the C's first rounder.
I think Evans needs a change of scenery, and he could be a special player on a team like Boston, who will really appreciate his ability to take the ball to the hoop, and his overall toughness.
I was less thrilled with him playing next to Rondo, but with Rondo out, its a great chance to take a look at him for a couple months, and maybe hope he can regain some of his ROY form to help this team make a little noise in the playoffs.
I'm not sure Sacramento would be interested in this unless the swap is something along the lines of Green + Bradley for Evans + Outlaw.
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Depends on your definition of "realistic", but if I am Danny, I keep Sacramento on speed dial about Evans. If they are not going to resign him this summer, when he is a RFA, they may be interested in getting something for him now (think Memphis with Mayo last year), and may consider something like Lee and the C's first rounder.
I think Evans needs a change of scenery, and he could be a special player on a team like Boston, who will really appreciate his ability to take the ball to the hoop, and his overall toughness.
I was less thrilled with him playing next to Rondo, but with Rondo out, its a great chance to take a look at him for a couple months, and maybe hope he can regain some of his ROY form to help this team make a little noise in the playoffs.
That is a pretty interesting idea.
As much of a gunner as Tyreke is, the Celtics could kind of use somebody who is high usage and looks for their own shot sometimes. Pierce can't be the guy who does that all of the time. Though I expect Terry to do that more often now.
But yeah, although I really like the Bradley / Lee combo, I could probably get on board for the idea of basically giving Tyreke a tryout playing combo guard next to Bradley for the rest of the season.
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Depends on your definition of "realistic", but if I am Danny, I keep Sacramento on speed dial about Evans. If they are not going to resign him this summer, when he is a RFA, they may be interested in getting something for him now (think Memphis with Mayo last year), and may consider something like Lee and the C's first rounder.
I think Evans needs a change of scenery, and he could be a special player on a team like Boston, who will really appreciate his ability to take the ball to the hoop, and his overall toughness.
I was less thrilled with him playing next to Rondo, but with Rondo out, its a great chance to take a look at him for a couple months, and maybe hope he can regain some of his ROY form to help this team make a little noise in the playoffs.
I'm not sure Sacramento would be interested in this unless the swap is something along the lines of Green + Bradley for Evans + Outlaw.
Yeah, that may be the case. And if it is, I pass. But I think it is at least worth watching, given Evans' contract status, and how much he has fallen out of favor with that team.
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Depends on your definition of "realistic", but if I am Danny, I keep Sacramento on speed dial about Evans. If they are not going to resign him this summer, when he is a RFA, they may be interested in getting something for him now (think Memphis with Mayo last year), and may consider something like Lee and the C's first rounder.
I think Evans needs a change of scenery, and he could be a special player on a team like Boston, who will really appreciate his ability to take the ball to the hoop, and his overall toughness.
I was less thrilled with him playing next to Rondo, but with Rondo out, its a great chance to take a look at him for a couple months, and maybe hope he can regain some of his ROY form to help this team make a little noise in the playoffs.
I'm not sure Sacramento would be interested in this unless the swap is something along the lines of Green + Bradley for Evans + Outlaw.
Yeah, that may be the case. And if it is, I pass. But I think it is at least worth watching, given Evans' contract status, and how much he has fallen out of favor with that team.
I think I'd actually consider such a swap. I don't view Bradley as indispensable, and having Evans may open the way for interesting scenarios where we trade Rondo for a young, talented big next season.
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Depends on your definition of "realistic", but if I am Danny, I keep Sacramento on speed dial about Evans. If they are not going to resign him this summer, when he is a RFA, they may be interested in getting something for him now (think Memphis with Mayo last year), and may consider something like Lee and the C's first rounder.
I think Evans needs a change of scenery, and he could be a special player on a team like Boston, who will really appreciate his ability to take the ball to the hoop, and his overall toughness.
I was less thrilled with him playing next to Rondo, but with Rondo out, its a great chance to take a look at him for a couple months, and maybe hope he can regain some of his ROY form to help this team make a little noise in the playoffs.
I'm not sure Sacramento would be interested in this unless the swap is something along the lines of Green + Bradley for Evans + Outlaw.
Yeah, that may be the case. And if it is, I pass. But I think it is at least worth watching, given Evans' contract status, and how much he has fallen out of favor with that team.
I think I'd actually consider such a swap. I don't view Bradley as indispensable, and having Evans may open the way for interesting scenarios where we trade Rondo for a young, talented big next season.
I am completely open to trading Bradley, but I wouldn't do that trade, just because of Evans' contract status. I hate giving away a known quantity prospect like Bradley for someone that you will have to pay in the summer. Just puts Danny in a really tough negotiating position. And if you can't resign him, thats more painful to lose Bradley than the pick.
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I reiterate Sean Livingston in the realistic category. Could be had for a song. His ball handling and length would be a nice fall back option to pair with our rather diminutive backcourt group (i.e. either Barbosa or Terry).
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Depends on your definition of "realistic", but if I am Danny, I keep Sacramento on speed dial about Evans. If they are not going to resign him this summer, when he is a RFA, they may be interested in getting something for him now (think Memphis with Mayo last year), and may consider something like Lee and the C's first rounder.
I think Evans needs a change of scenery, and he could be a special player on a team like Boston, who will really appreciate his ability to take the ball to the hoop, and his overall toughness.
I was less thrilled with him playing next to Rondo, but with Rondo out, its a great chance to take a look at him for a couple months, and maybe hope he can regain some of his ROY form to help this team make a little noise in the playoffs.
I'm not sure Sacramento would be interested in this unless the swap is something along the lines of Green + Bradley for Evans + Outlaw.
Yeah, that may be the case. And if it is, I pass. But I think it is at least worth watching, given Evans' contract status, and how much he has fallen out of favor with that team.
I think I'd actually consider such a swap. I don't view Bradley as indispensable, and having Evans may open the way for interesting scenarios where we trade Rondo for a young, talented big next season.
I am completely open to trading Bradley, but I wouldn't do that trade, just because of Evans' contract status. I hate giving away a known quantity prospect like Bradley for someone that you will have to pay in the summer. Just puts Danny in a really tough negotiating position. And if you can't resign him, thats more painful to lose Bradley than the pick.
Right, but once you clear Green from the books, it makes it easier to pay Evans (he's on his rookie deal, so we get Bird rights, correct?).
What makes a deal like this attractive in my mind is that it cleans up the rotation considerably while bringing in comparable talent level. More specifically, we give up a player who's stuck in the numbers game at the F spot for a G that will have plenty of opportunity to sop up minutes. And we add a F for depth behind Pierce, Bass, and Sullinger.