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Title: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: JSD on January 30, 2013, 10:29:39 PM
Lakers Receive $1.78M Injury Exception For Jordan Hill

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The NBA has approved the Los Angeles Lakers' request for an injury exception following the season-ending surgery undergone by Jordan Hill.

The Lakers will have $1.78 million to use to sign a player or in a trade.
realgm.com

Can the Celtics do this with Rondo?
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 30, 2013, 10:38:09 PM
Lakers Receive $1.78M Injury Exception For Jordan Hill

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The NBA has approved the Los Angeles Lakers' request for an injury exception following the season-ending surgery undergone by Jordan Hill.

The Lakers will have $1.78 million to use to sign a player or in a trade.
realgm.com

Can the Celtics do this with Rondo?

No, that can only be earned if the team asks for it by January 15th (before he was injured).
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: crimson_stallion on January 30, 2013, 11:27:34 PM
Lakers Receive $1.78M Injury Exception For Jordan Hill

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The NBA has approved the Los Angeles Lakers' request for an injury exception following the season-ending surgery undergone by Jordan Hill.

The Lakers will have $1.78 million to use to sign a player or in a trade.
realgm.com

Can the Celtics do this with Rondo?

No, that can only be earned if the team asks for it by January 15th (before he was injured).

This totally sucks if true...
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 30, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
Lakers Receive $1.78M Injury Exception For Jordan Hill

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The NBA has approved the Los Angeles Lakers' request for an injury exception following the season-ending surgery undergone by Jordan Hill.

The Lakers will have $1.78 million to use to sign a player or in a trade.
realgm.com

Can the Celtics do this with Rondo?

No, that can only be earned if the team asks for it by January 15th (before he was injured).

This totally sucks if true...

It is. TP me now, jk. But, I read it in the agreements. Whatever, too late anyways.
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: indeedproceed on January 30, 2013, 11:47:40 PM
I was about to say that it would make total symmetry if we were denied the injury exception because Rondo was injured a week or two too late.

Kind of hilarious, really.
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: Roy H. on January 31, 2013, 07:41:05 AM
I was about to say that it would make total symmetry if we were denied the injury exception because Rondo was injured a week or two too late.

Kind of hilarious, really.

It doesn't matter anyway, because we're basically capped out.  It's not like we would have been able to add an impact player.
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: hardlyyardley on January 31, 2013, 08:30:53 AM
Never expect any breaks from the league....couldn't get one when Reggie died....had t count his contract for a couple of years
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: Roy H. on January 31, 2013, 08:35:04 AM
Never expect any breaks from the league....couldn't get one when Reggie died....had t count his contract for a couple of years

Here, I don't think the league could give us a break if they wanted to.
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 31, 2013, 09:10:41 AM
I was about to say that it would make total symmetry if we were denied the injury exception because Rondo was injured a week or two too late.

Kind of hilarious, really.

It doesn't matter anyway, because we're basically capped out.  It's not like we would have been able to add an impact player.

Plus we have the bi-annual at our disposal, if we could still use it the only thing it would help is that the injury exception would let us keep the bi-annual for next year (which I'm not sure we'd be able to use next year anyways depending on cap considerations).
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: dreamgreen on January 31, 2013, 09:50:18 AM
Never expect any breaks from the league....couldn't get one when Reggie died....had t count his contract for a couple of years

Here, I don't think the league could give us a break if they wanted to.

Come on that was ridicules! A guy dies and it still counts on the cap? One of my top reasons for hating the NBA, if I was not a Celtic fan that would have been the end for me. (still p---ed about it lol) >:(
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: kozlodoev on January 31, 2013, 10:10:51 AM
I was about to say that it would make total symmetry if we were denied the injury exception because Rondo was injured a week or two too late.

Kind of hilarious, really.
It doesn't matter anyway, because we're basically capped out.  It's not like we would have been able to add an impact player.
Not sure why everyone is so worried about this. We still have more guards than we have minutes for.
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: Chris on January 31, 2013, 10:15:19 AM
The injury would have had to happen (and the team would have had to apply) before January 15th.  At this point in the season, they could only get an exception for next season, and that would only be if Rondo were deemed to be out all of next year. 

Its too bad too, because you can use it for a trade for a guy in the last year of his contract, which I hadn't realized:

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The team may trade for a player in the last season of his contract only (including any option years), who is making no more than 50% plus $100,000 of the disabled player's salary, or the amount of the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception plus $100,000, whichever is less.
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: Roy H. on January 31, 2013, 10:18:27 AM
The injury would have had to happen (and the team would have had to apply) before January 15th.  At this point in the season, they could only get an exception for next season, and that would only be if Rondo were deemed to be out all of next year. 

Its too bad too, because you can use it for a trade for a guy in the last year of his contract, which I hadn't realized:

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The team may trade for a player in the last season of his contract only (including any option years), who is making no more than 50% plus $100,000 of the disabled player's salary, or the amount of the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception plus $100,000, whichever is less.

I wonder, how many useful players on $2.6 million or less expiring contracts are there out there?
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: Chris on January 31, 2013, 11:44:22 AM
The injury would have had to happen (and the team would have had to apply) before January 15th.  At this point in the season, they could only get an exception for next season, and that would only be if Rondo were deemed to be out all of next year. 

Its too bad too, because you can use it for a trade for a guy in the last year of his contract, which I hadn't realized:

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The team may trade for a player in the last season of his contract only (including any option years), who is making no more than 50% plus $100,000 of the disabled player's salary, or the amount of the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception plus $100,000, whichever is less.

I wonder, how many useful players on $2.6 million or less expiring contracts are there out there?

$2.6 million?  Wouldn't it be $5.1 million?  Rondo makes $11 million per year, so the exception would have been the non-taxpayers mid-level exception.

Or are you talking about the hard cap? 
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: Fafnir on January 31, 2013, 11:48:11 AM
The injury would have had to happen (and the team would have had to apply) before January 15th.  At this point in the season, they could only get an exception for next season, and that would only be if Rondo were deemed to be out all of next year. 

Its too bad too, because you can use it for a trade for a guy in the last year of his contract, which I hadn't realized:

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The team may trade for a player in the last season of his contract only (including any option years), who is making no more than 50% plus $100,000 of the disabled player's salary, or the amount of the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception plus $100,000, whichever is less.

I wonder, how many useful players on $2.6 million or less expiring contracts are there out there?

$2.6 million?  Wouldn't it be $5.1 million?  Rondo makes $11 million per year, so the exception would have been the non-taxpayers mid-level exception.

Or are you talking about the hard cap?
Hard cap, we only have 2.6 million worth of room with the apron.
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: Chris on January 31, 2013, 11:54:36 AM
The injury would have had to happen (and the team would have had to apply) before January 15th.  At this point in the season, they could only get an exception for next season, and that would only be if Rondo were deemed to be out all of next year. 

Its too bad too, because you can use it for a trade for a guy in the last year of his contract, which I hadn't realized:

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The team may trade for a player in the last season of his contract only (including any option years), who is making no more than 50% plus $100,000 of the disabled player's salary, or the amount of the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception plus $100,000, whichever is less.

I wonder, how many useful players on $2.6 million or less expiring contracts are there out there?

$2.6 million?  Wouldn't it be $5.1 million?  Rondo makes $11 million per year, so the exception would have been the non-taxpayers mid-level exception.

Or are you talking about the hard cap?
Hard cap, we only have 2.6 million worth of room with the apron.

Well, I guess hypothetically, the C's could then find a way to trade away a couple contracts to get further below the apron to use the full exception. 

Although its all moot anyways, since the C's are not eligible for an exception.
Title: Re: Does this apply to Rondo? (Laker Jordan Hill $1.78M Injury Exception)
Post by: Q_FBE on January 31, 2013, 01:16:54 PM
Never expect any breaks from the league....couldn't get one when Reggie died....had t count his contract for a couple of years

Here, I don't think the league could give us a break if they wanted to.

Come on that was ridicules! A guy dies and it still counts on the cap? One of my top reasons for hating the NBA, if I was not a Celtic fan that would have been the end for me. (still p---ed about it lol) >:(

The Celtics took the NBA to court over that one and lost.