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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: Smokeeye123 on January 30, 2013, 08:51:11 PM
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Have any of you guys watched this guy play? 7'4 Wingspan great athleticism and size as a Center. Potential to be as good as Anthony Davis and is projected to go 4th right now to Phoenix in the draft. Now that got me thinking...Phoenix is in the market for a PG and would probably do a swap of their 4th pick for Rondo.
Noel is a huge Celtics fan and is from Everett MA. If we're going to start rebuilding I think that is the way.
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Would love to have the hometown kid, but we have nothing to offer that would get us in the top 5 to draft him.
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Two problems:
1) There's no feasible way for us to do this. I wouldn't be so sure that Noel would be there at 4, and I don't think we have the assets to move to that 4th spot anyway.
2) Building around Noel is risky business. He has great potential, but is too raw offensively for the SEC, let alone the NBA. Sure, he'd be a great player to draft, and has the chance to be something special, but giving up Rondo + whatever else it would take to somehow get him in Boston has a very high chance of getting someone fired.
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We'll see. Maybe in a few years.
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Nerlens Noel might not ever be that much better than what Larry Sanders is right now.
Which obviously isn't bad. But it kind of tells you how weak this draft is.
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I dont think we have anything of value to get to top 5, let alone top 3.
And I like Nerlens Noel, but IMO if we;re going to trade up for another big man, we trade up for the Maryland dude Alex Len. He's not as explosive, but he has similar defensive instincts. He's longer too. He is super raw like Fab though, but hey there's a ton of potential and a bit more size in there.
Speaking of draft picks, we might be in range to get Archie Gooodwin (if he leaves). This dude can get to the rim, man. He's still a work in progress but the potential is oozing. Decent shooting, which he can improve. Still needs to work on defense but not for lack of effort and he also has the tools.
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The only asset worth a top lottery pick the C's had was Rondo, so now with his ACL tear it isn't happening.
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Love Nerlens but in all honesty, he needs at least another year in the NCAA to get stronger and develop his offensive game.
He won't do that though. He's coming out.
Expect a very Marcus Camby like career from Nerlens. Lots of blocks, lots of rebounds, mediocre offense at best, possible multi-time DPOY as he will gobble up the steals guarding the perimeter at the next level. People just don't realize how good his hand eye coordination is and how fast and efficient he is at getting his hands on balls when the opposing player is dribbling.
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Why is Phoenix in the market for a point guard? They have a starting Point guard... Plus we have no idea where the Suns pick would be.
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Love Nerlens but in all honesty, he needs at least another year in the NCAA to get stronger and develop his offensive game.
He won't do that though. He's coming out.
Expect a very Marcus Camby like career from Nerlens. Lots of blocks, lots of rebounds, mediocre offense at best, possible multi-time DPOY as he will gobble up the steals guarding the perimeter at the next level. People just don't realize how good his hand eye coordination is and how fast and efficient he is at getting his hands on balls when the opposing player is dribbling.
I thought Noel had Javale McGee written all over him, but I think you're right and like the Marcus Camby comparison more.
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would love to see this kid a celtic. He would fit perfectly next to sully ( similare to a boozer/Noah pairing) and both he and Avery could develop into first team all defencive players.
The problem is getting into the top 3 to draft him. The best bet is somthing with the Bobcats. Their scouts are telling them to trade out of this draft and they tryed to use their pick last year to move Tyrus Thomas's contract. The problem is I dont see the Cs as a good trading partner.
I really don't like the idea of trading Rondo however if last games playing trend continues I might think about the following.
this works
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a23z244
Celtics get Sessions, Thomas, 2013 unprotected, future protected 1st
Bobcats get Rondo, Bass, 2013 1st
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would love to see this kid a celtic. He would fit perfectly next to sully ( similare to a boozer/Noah pairing) and both he and Avery could develop into first team all defencive players.
The problem is getting into the top 3 to draft him. The best bet is somthing with the Bobcats. Their scouts are telling them to trade out of this draft and they tryed to use their pick last year to move Tyrus Thomas's contract. The problem is I dont see the Cs as a good trading partner.
I really don't like the idea of trading Rondo however if last games playing trend continues I might think about the following.
this works
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a23z244
Celtics get Sessions, Thomas, 2013 unprotected, future protected 1st
Bobcats get Rondo, Bass, 2013 1st
Putting Rondo on the Bobcats is just cruel.
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If we're trading for Noel, anybody know what he's getting salary-wise at Kentucky? We have to be within 125% of that.
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If we're trading for Noel, anybody know what he's getting salary-wise at Kentucky? We have to be within 125% of that.
HA!!!
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The problem is getting into the top 3 to draft him. The best bet is somthing with the Bobcats. Their scouts are telling them to trade out of this draft
Then their scouts are nuts and should be fired.
If the Bobcats get a top 4 pick they could nab either Cody Zeller or Alex Len who both would be perfect fits in Charlotte. They also would be getting excellent value for the pick while picking for need, a rare occurrence.
Nerlens doesn't really fit in Charlotte alongside an offensively incompetent Biyumbo, but Len or Zeller do fit. Obviously they don't need McLemore, Muhammad or Carter Williams, the three other players I see as top 6 picks.
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Love Nerlens but in all honesty, he needs at least another year in the NCAA to get stronger and develop his offensive game.
Personally, I think Noel is strong enough to come into the NBA. Watching him, he looks stronger than Anthony Davis.
Offensively, if he can become a Stoudemire-type face up PNR player, he'd be excellent.
He's certainly an exciting player.
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i think we have the pieces just have to make the decision to rebuild around this kid. someone in the top five might be looking to jump start their rebuilding process akin to what danny did when he got allen and kg. maybe a team like charlotte wants to liven their fan base so when they name change back to the hornets, the interest is there as well.
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Love Nerlens but in all honesty, he needs at least another year in the NCAA to get stronger and develop his offensive game.
Personally, I think Noel is strong enough to come into the NBA. Watching him, he looks stronger than Anthony Davis.
Offensively, if he can become a Stoudemire-type face up PNR player, he'd be excellent.
He's certainly an exciting player.
Ever seen Nerlens in person? Really skinny. He makes JaJuan Johnson look heavy.
He is constantly getting pushed around by slightly or much larger players. In the pros he will get moved quite easily. He needs more time. His brother Jim took until about 20 to start putting some bulk on. His brother Rodman got thicker a bit earlier. He will put on muscle but it will take some time, maybe a couple years.
He's still coming out after this season regardless and probably should to not risk a major injury and lose millions, but I think he would do well with waiting a year.
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Love Nerlens but in all honesty, he needs at least another year in the NCAA to get stronger and develop his offensive game.
Personally, I think Noel is strong enough to come into the NBA. Watching him, he looks stronger than Anthony Davis.
Offensively, if he can become a Stoudemire-type face up PNR player, he'd be excellent.
He's certainly an exciting player.
Ever seen Nerlens in person? Really skinny. He makes JaJuan Johnson look heavy.
He is constantly getting pushed around by slightly or much larger players. In the pros he will get moved quite easily. He needs more time. His brother Jim took until about 20 to start putting some bulk on. His brother Rodman got thicker a bit earlier. He will put on muscle but it will take some time, maybe a couple years.
He's still coming out after this season regardless and probably should to not risk a major injury and lose millions, but I think he would do well with waiting a year.
He's listed at 228. When JaJuan came in, he was around 220-225. And no, I haven't see Noel in person, because I'm not as fortunate as you are.
If he could put on 15 more pounds and develop a consistent mid-range jumper, I would compare him to Serge Ibaka. Great shot blocker, good weak side defender, great athlete (for his size), and has an awesome name.
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Don't forget the high-top fade, yo.