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Title: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: gpap on January 28, 2013, 08:45:17 PM
This is clearly a move to win for this year which is what I would do if I were Danny.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a6y8qea

I think Toronto would take Rondo's contract in exchange for Bargs and they get a potential future star in Rondo.

The Celtics get the players they need to compete for this year and next.

Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: rondohondo on January 28, 2013, 08:46:59 PM
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO

Are you kidding?


Bargs is the softest big man in the league
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: ScottHow on January 28, 2013, 08:51:13 PM
Bleh, no thanks. I'm not looking for a trade that helps in the short term.
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: gpap on January 28, 2013, 08:53:28 PM
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO

Are you kidding?


Bargs is the softest big man in the league

Well if you're rooting for the team to go for it this year, which I am, then I don't think you'll find a better deal than this.

And actually, I think it's a pretty fair trade for both teams to be quite honest.

Celts get Fields which is a reasonable exchange for Green.
At least Bargs gives you some size and you get a point guard you need for this year and next.

For Toronto, they get a good player in Green, star they can promote to their fans for next year in Rondo and a potential future center in Fab Melo.
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: Roy H. on January 28, 2013, 08:57:24 PM
I think Toronto would jump all over that.
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: Chief Macho on January 28, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO

Are you kidding?


Bargs is the softest big man in the league

Well if you're rooting for the team to go for it this year, which I am, then I don't think you'll find a better deal than this.

And actually, I think it's a pretty fair trade for both teams to be quite honest.

Celts get Fields which is a reasonable exchange for Green.
At least Bargs gives you some size and you get a point guard you need for this year and next.

For Toronto, they get a good player in Green, star they can promote to their fans for next year in Rondo and a potential future center in Fab Melo.

celtics don't have a chance at a championship this year.  get over it. 
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: gpap on January 28, 2013, 09:00:38 PM
I think Toronto would jump all over that.

I don't see why they wouldn't. I know I would if I were Danny.
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: gpap on January 28, 2013, 09:01:19 PM
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO

Are you kidding?


Bargs is the softest big man in the league

Well if you're rooting for the team to go for it this year, which I am, then I don't think you'll find a better deal than this.

And actually, I think it's a pretty fair trade for both teams to be quite honest.

Celts get Fields which is a reasonable exchange for Green.
At least Bargs gives you some size and you get a point guard you need for this year and next.

For Toronto, they get a good player in Green, star they can promote to their fans for next year in Rondo and a potential future center in Fab Melo.

celtics don't have a chance at a championship this year.  get over it.

Why? Because they don't have Rondo? >:(
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 28, 2013, 09:01:59 PM
Thank Allah you're not Danny...
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: frosty33 on January 28, 2013, 09:05:21 PM
this ones better and doesn't include rondo
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: syfy9 on January 28, 2013, 09:06:42 PM
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO

Are you kidding?


Bargs is the softest big man in the league

Well if you're rooting for the team to go for it this year, which I am, then I don't think you'll find a better deal than this.

And actually, I think it's a pretty fair trade for both teams to be quite honest.

Celts get Fields which is a reasonable exchange for Green.
At least Bargs gives you some size and you get a point guard you need for this year and next.

For Toronto, they get a good player in Green, star they can promote to their fans for next year in Rondo and a potential future center in Fab Melo.

celtics don't have a chance at a championship this year.  get over it.

Why? Because they don't have Rondo? >:(

They never had a chance in the first place.

Compare this Celtics team to the Heat, Clippers, Knicks, Grizzlies. Would you really bet them over any legit contenders right now?
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: Roy H. on January 28, 2013, 09:10:25 PM
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO

Are you kidding?


Bargs is the softest big man in the league

Well if you're rooting for the team to go for it this year, which I am, then I don't think you'll find a better deal than this.

And actually, I think it's a pretty fair trade for both teams to be quite honest.

Celts get Fields which is a reasonable exchange for Green.
At least Bargs gives you some size and you get a point guard you need for this year and next.

For Toronto, they get a good player in Green, star they can promote to their fans for next year in Rondo and a potential future center in Fab Melo.

celtics don't have a chance at a championship this year.  get over it.

Why? Because they don't have Rondo? >:(

They never had a chance in the first place.

Compare this Celtics team to the Heat, Clippers, Knicks, Grizzlies. Would you really bet them over any legit contenders right now?

Not that it matters a lot, but I think that this squad with Rondo would have matched up fine with the Knicks, Grizzlies, and Clippers in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: OttawaCeltic on January 28, 2013, 09:17:19 PM
Ouch, you've just got MOVED  :P
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: BballTim on January 28, 2013, 09:23:43 PM
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO

Are you kidding?


Bargs is the softest big man in the league

Well if you're rooting for the team to go for it this year, which I am, then I don't think you'll find a better deal than this.

And actually, I think it's a pretty fair trade for both teams to be quite honest.

Celts get Fields which is a reasonable exchange for Green.
At least Bargs gives you some size and you get a point guard you need for this year and next.

For Toronto, they get a good player in Green, star they can promote to their fans for next year in Rondo and a potential future center in Fab Melo.

celtics don't have a chance at a championship this year.  get over it.

Why? Because they don't have Rondo? >:(

  Yes. Look at all the big games he had in the playoffs, figure out which of Bradley/Lee/Terry/Green/Bass/Sully you expect to have games like that on a regular basis in the playoffs this year and get back to me.
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: gpap on January 28, 2013, 09:32:08 PM

  Yes. Look at all the big games he had in the playoffs, figure out which of Bradley/Lee/Terry/Green/Bass/Sully you expect to have games like that on a regular basis in the playoffs this year and get back to me.[/quote]

Well, if you really want to have that debate, I'd be happy to.

1.) Did Rondo ever singlehandely bring the Celtics to a championship?

Last year in the ECF, he scored 44 pts in game 2 and the Celtics still lost

2.) This year, WITH Rondo before his injury, the Celtics were 3 games UNDER 500.

3.)And to answer your question, I expect MOST of those guys you mentioned to step up in Rondo's absence.

I know the NBA is viewed as a one man show, but last time I checked, there's 5 guys on the floor, not just one.
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: Celtics4ever on January 28, 2013, 09:57:28 PM
Barfgani ain't worth it.   
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: RebusRankin on January 28, 2013, 10:01:15 PM
Bargs is awful, can't even get his team to sniff a playoff spot.

Fields has been terrible the past two years.

Lowry is overrated.
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: indeedproceed on January 28, 2013, 10:12:28 PM
I maintain that Lowry here would be a breath of fresh air. He's not Rondo, but when he's playing inspired ball, he's only a tier down from Chris Paul and past Deron Williams. The guy is a bulldog, made flesh. Capable of the best on ball defense from a point in the NBA, fearless seeking out contact, and an acceptable 3pt shooter.

But big picture vs small, he's not worth giving up real future assets for what will ultimately be a half season rental.
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: frosty33 on January 28, 2013, 11:05:54 PM
i think bargs is someone to take the risk on, a fresh start for him would do wonders
Title: Re: Deal with Toronto, include Rondo's contract
Post by: BballTim on January 29, 2013, 12:01:13 AM

  Yes. Look at all the big games he had in the playoffs, figure out which of Bradley/Lee/Terry/Green/Bass/Sully you expect to have games like that on a regular basis in the playoffs this year and get back to me.

Well, if you really want to have that debate, I'd be happy to.

1.) Did Rondo ever singlehandely bring the Celtics to a championship?

Last year in the ECF, he scored 44 pts in game 2 and the Celtics still lost

2.) This year, WITH Rondo before his injury, the Celtics were 3 games UNDER 500.

3.)And to answer your question, I expect MOST of those guys you mentioned to step up in Rondo's absence.

I know the NBA is viewed as a one man show, but last time I checked, there's 5 guys on the floor, not just one.
[/quote]

  It would have been simpler to type "none of them". Rondo's frequently the best player on the court in the playoffs, I'm assuming when you say they'll step up you're aiming significantly lower. Unless you're actually expecting those players to dominate playoff games for stretches on a fairly regular basis, in which case I wish I had your optimism.