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Title: The Savior
Post by: ScottHow on January 28, 2013, 02:36:43 PM
Nerlens Noel‏@NerlensNoel3

I'm from Boston Massachusetts. Ima Celtics fan till i die #BelieveThat ! #CelticPride

(June 09 - 2012)

(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/1117/espnhs_nerlensnoel1_576x324.jpg)

10.6 ppg 9.4 rpg 2.4 spg 4.3 bpg

We start tanking now, get some much due luck, get Noel to put next to Sully for the front court of the future
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: Donoghus on January 28, 2013, 02:38:21 PM
And what happens if lady luck isnt on the Celtics' side?

Then what?
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: KGs Knee on January 28, 2013, 02:38:54 PM
What the heck is ging on with this recent trend of people going back to the early 90's high-top fade?

What's next, mullets?
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: ssspence on January 28, 2013, 02:42:09 PM
We should just go get that Charlotte lottery pick. Didn't some guru suggest Jordan trade it?
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 28, 2013, 02:42:29 PM
What the heck is ging on with this recent trend of people going back to the early 90's high-top fade?

What's next, mullets?

I know, the Kid N Play look is horrendous. I want to pin these guys down and shave their heads.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: ScottHow on January 28, 2013, 02:45:49 PM
And what happens if lady luck isnt on the Celtics' side?

Then what?

Then you hope we get lucky the next time, either way we need to start building young assets. Remember even the KG era started with high picks(tanking) and smart drafting.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: Who on January 28, 2013, 02:48:31 PM
I don't think the C's can realistically expect to lose enough games to be in the running for a top draft pick this season. They already have 20 wins. They are likely to win at least 10 more even if they blow up the roster. So looking at a 30 win season and a pick that is likely in the second half of the lottery in the #8 to #12 range.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 28, 2013, 02:49:18 PM
What the heck is ging on with this recent trend of people going back to the early 90's high-top fade?

What's next, mullets?

It gets worse.

(http://www.totalsportsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/NerlensNoelHairBack.jpg)
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: Donoghus on January 28, 2013, 02:51:17 PM
I actually like the high top fade and totally prefer it to the cornrow era.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: Fafnir on January 28, 2013, 02:53:58 PM
I don't think the C's can realistically expect to lose enough games to be in the running for a top draft pick this season. They already have 20 wins. They are likely to win at least 10 more even if they blow up the roster. So looking at a 30 win season and a pick that is likely in the second half of the lottery in the #8 to #12 range.
It'd have to be a crazy lucky draw, similar to what the Bulls got.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: PhoSita on January 28, 2013, 03:05:04 PM
More likely we end up with somebody like this:

(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/91/911134.jpg)

Project.  Not a savior.

Still, I'd rather get an asset in the late lottery than a first round pummeling, but it is what it is.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: Chris on January 28, 2013, 03:20:51 PM
And what happens if lady luck isnt on the Celtics' side?

Then what?

Well, if we end up with someone other than Noel, then many luck is on our side. 

He is not a terrible prospect, but as a top 3 pick?  No thanks.  He looks much closer to Tyrus Thomas than to Anthony Davis or KG. 
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: Birdman on January 28, 2013, 03:54:31 PM
Nerlens Noel at center
SUlly at PF
Jeff Green at SF
Avery Bradley at SG
Rajon Rondo at PG

Good looking young team of the future..i say a 55 win team
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: Lucky17 on January 28, 2013, 03:54:59 PM
Is there much difference this year between the #11 pick and the #16?
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: csfansince60s on January 28, 2013, 04:05:03 PM
More likely we end up with somebody like this:

(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/91/911134.jpg)

Project.  Not a savior.

Still, I'd rather get an asset in the late lottery than a first round pummeling, but it is what it is.


Pho, I'm with you....too bad the Cs brass want sellouts the rest of the year and two playoff games at home.

Who knows, we get a decent Big (yah, I'm dreamin') we make a run...never know...odds against us, tho.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: nickagneta on January 28, 2013, 04:06:04 PM
Nerlens(and I get to call him that since he's my son's friend and has hung around the front of my house on occasion) will need time in the NBA. He will get absolutely outmuscled like nuts for his first few years.

But, his brothers put some bulk on them and I would expect he would also(his brothers play football at BC and NC State). The thing with Nerlens is he is a tough minded **** He'll take the beating and learn and get stronger and better.

Still, even being skinny and needing time to fill out, expect rebounds, blocks and steals to come his way in bunches. He is actually an extremely good perimeter defender, and elite at it against other bigs. He also has better hands than Anthony Davis and knocks away and causes more steals than Davis. He probably has better shot blocking instincts than Davis.

Davis just had a more NBA ready body.

I like how quickly Nerlens seems to be developing his post game. He jump hooks with both hands very well. He's learning to establish position early. He can dribble okay for a man of his size and take it to the basket right or left. He is about a perfect addition for a team with a bunch of sets calling for alley oop plays.

The kid has a bunch of Marcus Camby in him.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: EJPLAYA on January 28, 2013, 04:08:55 PM
Why does his name remind me too much of Acie Earl?! Hope his game doesn't...
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: Fafnir on January 28, 2013, 04:11:00 PM
Nerlens(and I get to call him that since he's my son's friend and has hung around the front of my house on occasion) will need time in the NBA. He will get absolutely outmuscled like nuts for his first few years.

But, his brothers put some bulk on them and I would expect he would also(his brothers play football at BC and NC State). The thing with Nerlens is he is a tough minded **** He'll take the beating and learn and get stronger and better.

Still, even being skinny and needing time to fill out, expect rebounds, blocks and steals to come his way in bunches. He is actually an extremely good perimeter defender, and elite at it against other bigs. He also has better hands than Anthony Davis and knocks away and causes more steals than Davis. He probably has better shot blocking instincts than Davis.

Davis just had a more NBA ready body.

I like how quickly Nerlens seems to be developing his post game. He jump hooks with both hands very well. He's learning to establish position early. He can dribble okay for a man of his size and take it to the basket right or left. He is about a perfect addition for a team with a bunch of sets calling for alley oop plays.

The kid has a bunch of Marcus Camby in him.
Davis also had the weird growth pattern (so he played guard till HS) so his shot, handles, and passing are better than what I've seen of Noel.

Sadly you can't pin your hopes on one guy in the draft, lottery makes it such a crap shoot  >:(.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: Casperian on January 28, 2013, 05:02:51 PM
And what happens if lady luck isnt on the Celtics' side?

Then what?

We´re the Celtics, lady luck is never really on our side.

However, tanking, I fear, is inevitable. We´re long past the point of repair.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: kgainez on January 28, 2013, 05:03:10 PM
Nerlens Noel‏@NerlensNoel3

I'm from Boston Massachusetts. Ima Celtics fan till i die #BelieveThat ! #CelticPride

(June 09 - 2012)

(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/1117/espnhs_nerlensnoel1_576x324.jpg)

10.6 ppg 9.4 rpg 2.4 spg 4.3 bpg

We start tanking now, get some much due luck, get Noel to put next to Sully for the front court of the future

i'm unprepared to sign a guy with a high top fade.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: nickagneta on January 28, 2013, 06:26:47 PM
Nerlens(and I get to call him that since he's my son's friend and has hung around the front of my house on occasion) will need time in the NBA. He will get absolutely outmuscled like nuts for his first few years.

But, his brothers put some bulk on them and I would expect he would also(his brothers play football at BC and NC State). The thing with Nerlens is he is a tough minded **** He'll take the beating and learn and get stronger and better.

Still, even being skinny and needing time to fill out, expect rebounds, blocks and steals to come his way in bunches. He is actually an extremely good perimeter defender, and elite at it against other bigs. He also has better hands than Anthony Davis and knocks away and causes more steals than Davis. He probably has better shot blocking instincts than Davis.

Davis just had a more NBA ready body.

I like how quickly Nerlens seems to be developing his post game. He jump hooks with both hands very well. He's learning to establish position early. He can dribble okay for a man of his size and take it to the basket right or left. He is about a perfect addition for a team with a bunch of sets calling for alley oop plays.

The kid has a bunch of Marcus Camby in him.
Davis also had the weird growth pattern (so he played guard till HS) so his shot, handles, and passing are better than what I've seen of Noel.

Sadly you can't pin your hopes on one guy in the draft, lottery makes it such a crap shoot  >:(.
Absolutely true, faf. I would never get behind the ixea of purposely tanking to get one player. And though Nerlens might be the perfect fit for a team like the Celtics, there's probably one or two players that will be better all around better NBA players than Nerlens.

I still say Nerlens is a future NBA Defensive Player of the Year though. Maybe multiple.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: erisred on January 28, 2013, 06:52:40 PM
And what happens if lady luck isnt on the Celtics' side?

Then what?

We´re the Celtics, lady luck is never really on our side.

However, tanking, I fear, is inevitable. We´re long past the point of repair.
Unless he and the Cats start playing better Noel might be better off staying in college for another year. As it stands right now Kentucky might not even make the playoffs.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: Neurotic Guy on January 28, 2013, 06:56:14 PM
'No-wins for Nerlens' ?
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: ScottHow on January 28, 2013, 07:02:08 PM
And what happens if lady luck isnt on the Celtics' side?

Then what?

We´re the Celtics, lady luck is never really on our side.

However, tanking, I fear, is inevitable. We´re long past the point of repair.
Unless he and the Cats start playing better Noel might be better off staying in college for another year. As it stands right now Kentucky might not even make the playoffs.

All the better! Maybe he'd drop a few spots.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: CelticsFan9 on January 28, 2013, 07:04:42 PM
I read somewhere that Noel was just trying the break the UK blocks record, and didn't care about winning.

Not sure I want a player of that mindset on my team.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: ScottHow on January 28, 2013, 07:07:27 PM
I read somewhere that Noel was just trying the break the UK blocks record, and didn't care about winning.

Not sure I want a player of that mindset on my team.

Unless that somewhere has a reliable source, I wouldn't worry about it.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: CelticsFan9 on January 28, 2013, 07:12:43 PM
I read somewhere that Noel was just trying the break the UK blocks record, and didn't care about winning.

Not sure I want a player of that mindset on my team.

Unless that somewhere has a reliable source, I wouldn't worry about it.

Don't get me wrong, I think Noel is an incredible talent.  I just don't want him to end up with the JaVale McGee syndrome, which is, "Hey look, the ball's in the air, and whether it's going up or coming down, I'm going to swat it because I can!"
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: Celtics18 on January 28, 2013, 07:14:42 PM
I read somewhere that Noel was just trying the break the UK blocks record, and didn't care about winning.

Not sure I want a player of that mindset on my team.

I read somewhere that Rondo was just trying to break assist records and didn't care about winning. 

I forget where, though.
Title: Re: The Savior
Post by: nickagneta on January 28, 2013, 07:15:28 PM
I read somewhere that Noel was just trying the break the UK blocks record, and didn't care about winning.

Not sure I want a player of that mindset on my team.
This is garbage speculation based on a pre-season quote Nerlens gave some magazine. In context, Nerlens stated he would go after the record as a way to motivate himself and keep himself focused on playing defense. This is something he thinks is extremely important to winning basketball games.

Nerlens has won everywhere he has gone and done it with defense first. He knows his strengths and weaknesses and focuses on making sure he doesn't sacrifice his defense to build his offensive repertoire. Obviously some people think offense is what makes basketball players great. He doesn't.

Nerlens is about winning. Thinking he is a stats oriented player based on that quote is ridiculous. If he was a stats type of kid he would be shooting a whole lot more than he does rather than being one of the best passers, from the center position no less, on his team.