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Title: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 10:33:11 PM
No racism or anything here.

I noticed that our Celtics team is all-black, after Darko left, which isn't too rare seeing as the league is mostly black, since black people are better at basketball than whites, overall.

All teams have black players.

But, the Timberwolves..... They seem too white to not be manufactured.
Rubio.
Shved.
Kirilenko.
Love.
Ridnour.
Barea.
Amundson.
Budinger.
Steimsma.
Pekovic.

Plus a white coach, a desire to trade their black player, Derrick Williams for.... A white guy, Pau Gasol. No team desires and possesses as many whites as these Wolves.

I don't know if I'm manufacturing this out of nothing, but it seems a little absurd. Humph. Weird.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on January 27, 2013, 10:42:25 PM
Yeah its strange.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 10:42:59 PM
Yeah its strange.

It cannot be a coincidence.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticsFan9 on January 27, 2013, 10:43:45 PM
Who cares?

They're playing well, and they happen to be primarily white.  What's the big deal?
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: hpantazo on January 27, 2013, 10:44:27 PM
maybe they can get Bogut and Nash too
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 10:46:15 PM
Who cares?

They're playing well, and they happen to be primarily white.  What's the big deal?

I was suggesting the fact that they are actively pursuing white players over black players, and that it was not a coincidence, and found it curious so I thought to share it with y'all.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticsFan9 on January 27, 2013, 10:48:06 PM
Who cares?

They're playing well, and they happen to be primarily white.  What's the big deal?

I was suggesting the fact that they are actively pursuing white players over black players, and that it was not a coincidence, and found it curious so I thought to share it with y'all.

What if Pau Gasol was black?  You think they wouldn't pursue him?
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: Smitty77 on January 27, 2013, 10:49:48 PM
Therefore, the city, the coach, the coaching staff, the GM, and the owner MUST be racist:-)))  Come on!!!

Let's get to where we can judge people by the CONTENT of their basketball resume rather than by the color of their skin:-))

I have heard something like that somewhere before:-))

Do some on this board like conspiracies???

Smitty77
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: hpantazo on January 27, 2013, 10:50:13 PM
This trend began with David Khan. They were not such a white team back when McHale was running things.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 10:51:19 PM
This trend began with David Khan. They were not such a white team back when McHale was running things.

I noticed that too. Ahem.

Therefore, the city, the coach, the coaching staff, the GM, and the owner MUST be racist:-)))  Come on!!!

Let's get to where we can judge people by the CONTENT of their basketball resume rather than by the color of their skin:-))

I have heard something like that somewhere before:-))

Do some on this board like conspiracies???

Smitty77

i never said it was racist, i said it was curious i knew this would come up.

Who cares?

They're playing well, and they happen to be primarily white.  What's the big deal?

I was suggesting the fact that they are actively pursuing white players over black players, and that it was not a coincidence, and found it curious so I thought to share it with y'all.

What if Pau Gasol was black?  You think they wouldn't pursue him?

I do not think they would pursue him if he was black.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: action781 on January 27, 2013, 10:56:34 PM
This trend began with David Khan. They were not such a white team back when McHale was running things.

I noticed that too. Ahem.

Therefore, the city, the coach, the coaching staff, the GM, and the owner MUST be racist:-)))  Come on!!!

Let's get to where we can judge people by the CONTENT of their basketball resume rather than by the color of their skin:-))

I have heard something like that somewhere before:-))

Do some on this board like conspiracies???

Smitty77

i never said it was racist, i said it was curious i knew this would come up.

Who cares?

They're playing well, and they happen to be primarily white.  What's the big deal?

I was suggesting the fact that they are actively pursuing white players over black players, and that it was not a coincidence, and found it curious so I thought to share it with y'all.

What if Pau Gasol was black?  You think they wouldn't pursue him?

I do not think they would pursue him if he was black.

You're last two comments directly contradict eachother.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 10:58:05 PM
This trend began with David Khan. They were not such a white team back when McHale was running things.

I noticed that too. Ahem.

Therefore, the city, the coach, the coaching staff, the GM, and the owner MUST be racist:-)))  Come on!!!

Let's get to where we can judge people by the CONTENT of their basketball resume rather than by the color of their skin:-))

I have heard something like that somewhere before:-))

Do some on this board like conspiracies???

Smitty77

i never said it was racist, i said it was curious i knew this would come up.

Who cares?

They're playing well, and they happen to be primarily white.  What's the big deal?

I was suggesting the fact that they are actively pursuing white players over black players, and that it was not a coincidence, and found it curious so I thought to share it with y'all.

What if Pau Gasol was black?  You think they wouldn't pursue him?

I do not think they would pursue him if he was black.

You're last two comments directly contradict eachother.

Just because they like to sign white people more than black people means they're racists? They own the team, they can sign who they want supposedly. Maybe it's a coincidence that they're all white. I just find that unlikely.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: timobusa on January 27, 2013, 10:59:25 PM
This is funny, I don't think its Racism, but, it would be awesome to be a fly on the locker room of this team. Could they be wondering why they are all white too?
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: vinnie on January 27, 2013, 11:00:07 PM
And can you believe they actually let foreigners on the team..........??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 11:01:11 PM
And can you believe they actually let foreigners on the team..........??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Well, so do the Spurs but they ain't all white.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: hpantazo on January 27, 2013, 11:01:21 PM
This trend began with David Khan. They were not such a white team back when McHale was running things.

I noticed that too. Ahem.

Therefore, the city, the coach, the coaching staff, the GM, and the owner MUST be racist:-)))  Come on!!!

Let's get to where we can judge people by the CONTENT of their basketball resume rather than by the color of their skin:-))

I have heard something like that somewhere before:-))

Do some on this board like conspiracies???

Smitty77

i never said it was racist, i said it was curious i knew this would come up.

Who cares?

They're playing well, and they happen to be primarily white.  What's the big deal?

I was suggesting the fact that they are actively pursuing white players over black players, and that it was not a coincidence, and found it curious so I thought to share it with y'all.

What if Pau Gasol was black?  You think they wouldn't pursue him?

I do not think they would pursue him if he was black.

You're last two comments directly contradict eachother.

Just because they like to sign white people more than black people means they're racists? They own the team, they can sign who they want supposedly.

Considering the ratio of white players to black overall in the NBA, and then the ration on the Twolves, yes, it indicates they are racist. I mean, it would be like if the rockets next year had an all Chinese starting 5 when there are barely 5 asian players in the pros.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: BballTim on January 27, 2013, 11:01:59 PM
No racism or anything here.

I noticed that our Celtics team is all-black, after Darko left, which isn't too rare seeing as the league is mostly black, since black people are better at basketball than whites, overall.

All teams have black players.

But, the Timberwolves..... They seem too white to not be manufactured.
Rubio.
Shved.
Kirilenko.
Love.
Ridnour.
Barea.
Amundson.
Budinger.
Steimsma.
Pekovic.

Plus a white coach, a desire to trade their black player, Derrick Williams for.... A white guy, Pau Gasol. No team desires and possesses as many whites as these Wolves.

I don't know if I'm manufacturing this out of nothing, but it seems a little absurd. Humph. Weird.

  Maybe they're too european.

  By the way, how much money did they offer to Batum last summer?
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: vinnie on January 27, 2013, 11:02:18 PM
And can you believe they actually let foreigners on the team..........??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Well, so do the Spurs but they ain't all white.

I guess the point I am trying to make is I really do not understand why this thread even got started. But, that is the beauty of the forums here on Celtics Blog.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: Kane3387 on January 27, 2013, 11:03:08 PM
It's not a coincidence. It's about image and marketing to Minnesota from what understand. So yeah there is some prejudice here I believe.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 11:03:14 PM
I found it interesting a few months so and after joining CB, I wanted to ask your opinions.

I thought it was very peculiar.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: hpantazo on January 27, 2013, 11:03:59 PM
This is funny, I don't think its Racism, but, it would be awesome to be a fly on the locker room of this team. Could they be wondering why they are all white too?

LOL, that would be awesome! They should do a reality show on them!
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: Edgar on January 27, 2013, 11:04:08 PM
IMHO European teams done pretty well against NBA all stars to decrease value on that one.
maybe its a valid startegy
i mean
its all about strategy unless your name is doc.. :-X
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: vinnie on January 27, 2013, 11:04:13 PM
No racism or anything here.

I noticed that our Celtics team is all-black, after Darko left, which isn't too rare seeing as the league is mostly black, since black people are better at basketball than whites, overall.

All teams have black players.

But, the Timberwolves..... They seem too white to not be manufactured.
Rubio.
Shved.
Kirilenko.
Love.
Ridnour.
Barea.
Amundson.
Budinger.
Steimsma.
Pekovic.

Plus a white coach, a desire to trade their black player, Derrick Williams for.... A white guy, Pau Gasol. No team desires and possesses as many whites as these Wolves.

I don't know if I'm manufacturing this out of nothing, but it seems a little absurd. Humph. Weird.

  Maybe they're too european.

  By the way, how much money did they offer to Batum last summer?

Yes, but the offer they made to Batum wasn't real, because if he had accepted it they would have pulled it back because while he is from another country, he also is not white.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 11:05:18 PM
Not all white players are from Europe. -.-
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 11:06:38 PM
This is funny, I don't think its Racism, but, it would be awesome to be a fly on the locker room of this team. Could they be wondering why they are all white too?

LOL, that would be awesome! They should do a reality show on them!

They must think that lol. I mean, 10 white players is a lot and they didn't like their two black draft picks, Wes and Williams.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: vinnie on January 27, 2013, 11:07:57 PM
It's not a coincidence. It's about image and marketing to Minnesota from what understand. So yeah there is some prejudice here I believe.

Would love to see some links to articles talking about them having a mostly white team in order to market in the Minneapolis area. FYI, almost 20 percent of the Minneapolis population is black.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 11:08:59 PM
It's not a coincidence. It's about image and marketing to Minnesota from what understand. So yeah there is some prejudice here I believe.

Would love to see some links to articles talking about them having a mostly white team in order to market in the Minneapolis area. FYI, almost 20 percent of the Minneapolis population is black.

They're GM is on to something here imo but who knows? Other than the GM and that fly.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: BballTim on January 27, 2013, 11:09:39 PM
No racism or anything here.

I noticed that our Celtics team is all-black, after Darko left, which isn't too rare seeing as the league is mostly black, since black people are better at basketball than whites, overall.

All teams have black players.

But, the Timberwolves..... They seem too white to not be manufactured.
Rubio.
Shved.
Kirilenko.
Love.
Ridnour.
Barea.
Amundson.
Budinger.
Steimsma.
Pekovic.

Plus a white coach, a desire to trade their black player, Derrick Williams for.... A white guy, Pau Gasol. No team desires and possesses as many whites as these Wolves.

I don't know if I'm manufacturing this out of nothing, but it seems a little absurd. Humph. Weird.

  Maybe they're too european.

  By the way, how much money did they offer to Batum last summer?

Yes, but the offer they made to Batum wasn't real, because if he had accepted it they would have pulled it back because while he is from another country, he also is not white.

  If that's the case we'll hear about it from their owner, who will be left wondering why the nba took away another pile of draft picks from them...
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: vinnie on January 27, 2013, 11:10:14 PM
Here is a decent article on the subject: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-10-31/minnesota-timberwolves-white-roster-civil-rights-protest-tyrone-terrell
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: vinnie on January 27, 2013, 11:11:00 PM
No racism or anything here.

I noticed that our Celtics team is all-black, after Darko left, which isn't too rare seeing as the league is mostly black, since black people are better at basketball than whites, overall.

All teams have black players.

But, the Timberwolves..... They seem too white to not be manufactured.
Rubio.
Shved.
Kirilenko.
Love.
Ridnour.
Barea.
Amundson.
Budinger.
Steimsma.
Pekovic.

Plus a white coach, a desire to trade their black player, Derrick Williams for.... A white guy, Pau Gasol. No team desires and possesses as many whites as these Wolves.

I don't know if I'm manufacturing this out of nothing, but it seems a little absurd. Humph. Weird.

  Maybe they're too european.

  By the way, how much money did they offer to Batum last summer?

Yes, but the offer they made to Batum wasn't real, because if he had accepted it they would have pulled it back because while he is from another country, he also is not white.

  If that's the case we'll hear about it from their owner, who will be left wondering why the nba took away another pile of draft picks from them...

I thought my italics would clearly indicate my thick sarcasm  ;D
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: Kane3387 on January 27, 2013, 11:11:48 PM
Quote
“‘How did we get a roster that resembles the 1955 Lakers?’ asked Tyrone Terrell, chairman of St. Paul’s African American leadership council. ‘I think everything is a strategy. Nothing happens by happenstance.’”

“That strategy, Terrell and others in the black community believe, is to sell tickets to the Wolves’ fan base, which is overwhelmingly white.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/01/conspiracy-theory-the-minnesota-timberwolves-are-racist/

Pretty good read with dialog between wilbon and kornheiser. I don't think the intent is racist but rather it's a financially driven decision to target a certain audience.

I guess it could be considered racist but it doesn't seem the timberwolves hate black people. I think they believe more whit players will be more Attractive to their white fans. So ultimately it isn't about black and white as much as it is green.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: BballTim on January 27, 2013, 11:13:44 PM
No racism or anything here.

I noticed that our Celtics team is all-black, after Darko left, which isn't too rare seeing as the league is mostly black, since black people are better at basketball than whites, overall.

All teams have black players.

But, the Timberwolves..... They seem too white to not be manufactured.
Rubio.
Shved.
Kirilenko.
Love.
Ridnour.
Barea.
Amundson.
Budinger.
Steimsma.
Pekovic.

Plus a white coach, a desire to trade their black player, Derrick Williams for.... A white guy, Pau Gasol. No team desires and possesses as many whites as these Wolves.

I don't know if I'm manufacturing this out of nothing, but it seems a little absurd. Humph. Weird.

  Maybe they're too european.

  By the way, how much money did they offer to Batum last summer?

Yes, but the offer they made to Batum wasn't real, because if he had accepted it they would have pulled it back because while he is from another country, he also is not white.

  If that's the case we'll hear about it from their owner, who will be left wondering why the nba took away another pile of draft picks from them...

I thought my italics would clearly indicate my thick sarcasm  ;D

  I thought the content of my post would indicate mine.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 11:19:00 PM
I think they should be allowed to have whichever players they want, right?

But then, if the Houston Rockets just signed 15 Chinese guys to play on their roster, wouldn't that go a little nuts? Even though they'd lose quite a bit. >_>
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CapnDunks on January 27, 2013, 11:21:58 PM
They really white. The midwest is white. Minneapolis is whiter than a lot of cities with NBA franchises. Plus Lots of white NBA players come from midwest like Stiemsma. Maybe this increases ratings/sells tickets. I guess that's racist. but its a business decision.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 11:23:24 PM
They really white. The midwest is white. Minneapolis is whiter than a lot of cities with NBA franchises. Plus Lots of white NBA players come from midwest like Stiemsma. Maybe this increases ratings/sells tickets. I guess that's racist. but its a business decision.

Boston is 53.9% white and I don't see half the Celtics' roster as white (I'm not white even lol)... I wonder where this fine line is drawn.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: action781 on January 27, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Quote
“‘How did we get a roster that resembles the 1955 Lakers?’ asked Tyrone Terrell, chairman of St. Paul’s African American leadership council. ‘I think everything is a strategy. Nothing happens by happenstance.’”

“That strategy, Terrell and others in the black community believe, is to sell tickets to the Wolves’ fan base, which is overwhelmingly white.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/01/conspiracy-theory-the-minnesota-timberwolves-are-racist/

Pretty good read with dialog between wilbon and kornheiser. I don't think the intent is racist but rather it's a financially driven decision to target a certain audience.

I guess it could be considered racist but it doesn't seem the timberwolves hate black people. I think they believe more whit players will be more Attractive to their white fans. So ultimately it isn't about black and white as much as it is green.
Everything you posted is still racism.  Hiring someone based on the color of their skin is technically racism regardless of whether or not the intentions are financial or not.  I just think we as a civilization need to be accepting of racism in certain forms instead of trying to pretend its not there.

I've gotta say Tyrone Terrell's comment is pretty obnoxious.  "Nothing happens by happenstance?"  I mean that's just blatantly false.  Otherwise what I've learned and am now teaching in statistics class is wrong.  Whether this is happenstance or not is up for debate, but happenstance happens.


I think they should be allowed to have whichever players they want, right?

But then, if the Houston Rockets just signed 15 Chinese guys to play on their roster, wouldn't that go a little nuts? Even though they'd lose quite a bit. >_>
Do you think that all employers should be able to hire anyone they want based on the employer's preference of skin color?
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 11:34:04 PM
Quote
“‘How did we get a roster that resembles the 1955 Lakers?’ asked Tyrone Terrell, chairman of St. Paul’s African American leadership council. ‘I think everything is a strategy. Nothing happens by happenstance.’”

“That strategy, Terrell and others in the black community believe, is to sell tickets to the Wolves’ fan base, which is overwhelmingly white.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/01/conspiracy-theory-the-minnesota-timberwolves-are-racist/

Pretty good read with dialog between wilbon and kornheiser. I don't think the intent is racist but rather it's a financially driven decision to target a certain audience.

I guess it could be considered racist but it doesn't seem the timberwolves hate black people. I think they believe more whit players will be more Attractive to their white fans. So ultimately it isn't about black and white as much as it is green.
Everything you posted is still racism.  Hiring someone based on the color of their skin is technically racism regardless of whether or not the intentions are financial or not.  I just think we as a civilization need to be accepting of racism in certain forms instead of trying to pretend its not there.

I've gotta say Tyrone Terrell's comment is pretty obnoxious.  "Nothing happens by happenstance?"  I mean that's just blatantly false.  Otherwise what I've learned and am now teaching in statistics class is wrong.  Whether this is happenstance or not is up for debate, but happenstance happens.


I think they should be allowed to have whichever players they want, right?

But then, if the Houston Rockets just signed 15 Chinese guys to play on their roster, wouldn't that go a little nuts? Even though they'd lose quite a bit. >_>
Do you think that all employers should be able to hire anyone they want based on the employer's preference of skin color?

Is there any way you can prove that he signed those players only because they're white? I think you can. I cannot think of a way, however. :\ I'm not against you, bro.
Title: Re: Timberwolves are white
Post by: action781 on January 27, 2013, 11:37:45 PM
Quote
“‘How did we get a roster that resembles the 1955 Lakers?’ asked Tyrone Terrell, chairman of St. Paul’s African American leadership council. ‘I think everything is a strategy. Nothing happens by happenstance.’”

“That strategy, Terrell and others in the black community believe, is to sell tickets to the Wolves’ fan base, which is overwhelmingly white.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/01/conspiracy-theory-the-minnesota-timberwolves-are-racist/

Pretty good read with dialog between wilbon and kornheiser. I don't think the intent is racist but rather it's a financially driven decision to target a certain audience.

I guess it could be considered racist but it doesn't seem the timberwolves hate black people. I think they believe more whit players will be more Attractive to their white fans. So ultimately it isn't about black and white as much as it is green.
Everything you posted is still racism.  Hiring someone based on the color of their skin is technically racism regardless of whether or not the intentions are financial or not.  I just think we as a civilization need to be accepting of racism in certain forms instead of trying to pretend its not there.

I've gotta say Tyrone Terrell's comment is pretty obnoxious.  "Nothing happens by happenstance?"  I mean that's just blatantly false.  Otherwise what I've learned and am now teaching in statistics class is wrong.  Whether this is happenstance or not is up for debate, but happenstance happens.


I think they should be allowed to have whichever players they want, right?

But then, if the Houston Rockets just signed 15 Chinese guys to play on their roster, wouldn't that go a little nuts? Even though they'd lose quite a bit. >_>
Do you think that all employers should be able to hire anyone they want based on the employer's preference of skin color?

Is there any way you can prove that he signed those players only because they're white? I think you can. I cannot think of a way, however. :\ I'm not against you, bro.

Not against you either celticconcourse, just playin a lil devil's advocate here.  TP for lots of good comments and discussion i've seen from you in the forums tonight