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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: kgainez on January 27, 2013, 08:25:08 PM
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Why didn't we win it all last year?
With a significantly better PP and KG.
A Ray Allen.
And a bench that many people prefer over this one?
(you cannot answer with 'referees')
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Why didn't we win it all last year?
With a significantly better PP and KG.
A Ray Allen.
And a bench that many people prefer over this one?
(you cannot answer with 'referees')
Health.
As in:
O'Neal, Bradley, Pierce, Allen, Green, Wilcox, Pietrus all hurting.
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I don't understand the argument.
That's like saying "If Kevin Durant is OKC's only chance at a championship, why didn't he win it last year"?
Obviously, Rondo was a key player on this team. Losing him makes our chances much, much less than they were before.
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I don't understand the argument.
That's like saying "If Kevin Durant is OKC's only chance at a championship, why didn't he win it last year"?
Obviously, Rondo was a key player on this team. Losing him makes our chances much, much less than they were before.
My argument is why do we have to turn it all in for him?
And I think that's a wonderful question, too. But I think the difference is OKC fans don't put their trust in just one guy.
At the end of the day, this is a team. With much more talent than last year.
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I don't understand the argument.
That's like saying "If Kevin Durant is OKC's only chance at a championship, why didn't he win it last year"?
Obviously, Rondo was a key player on this team. Losing him makes our chances much, much less than they were before.
My argument is why do we have to turn it all in for him?
And I think that's a wonderful question, too. But I think the difference is OKC fans don't put their trust in just one guy.
At the end of the day, this is a team. With much more talent than last year.
It's a team. I agree we shouldn't pack it all in. I just don't think "We didn't win with Rondo last year, so he's not all that important" is a very good argument.
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Why didn't we win it all last year?
With a significantly better PP and KG.
A Ray Allen.
And a bench that many people prefer over this one?
(you cannot answer with 'referees')
Look at the team that lost to Miami. PP was playing through a strained knee ligament and Ray was hobbling around on bad ankles. Aside from that, our bench consisted of Steamer (foot problems in the postseason), Ryan Hollins, Keyon Dooling and Pietrus (still not over that concussion/neck injury IMO). Who would prefer that bench to Wilcox/Collins/Sully/Green/Terry/Lee/Barbosa?
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I don't understand the argument.
That's like saying "If Kevin Durant is OKC's only chance at a championship, why didn't he win it last year"?
Obviously, Rondo was a key player on this team. Losing him makes our chances much, much less than they were before.
My argument is why do we have to turn it all in for him?
And I think that's a wonderful question, too. But I think the difference is OKC fans don't put their trust in just one guy.
At the end of the day, this is a team. With much more talent than last year.
It's a team. I agree we shouldn't pack it all in. I just don't think "We didn't win with Rondo last year, so he's not all that important" is a very good argument.
I must've been unclear in my argument because that wasn't my point at all. I never said Rondo isn't that important. I think my argument is for people who think Rondo is THAT important...that a championship rests on him.
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Why didn't we win it all last year?
With a significantly better PP and KG.
A Ray Allen.
And a bench that many people prefer over this one?
(you cannot answer with 'referees')
Look at the team that lost to Miami. PP was playing through a strained knee ligament and Ray was hobbling around on bad ankles. Aside from that, our bench consisted of Steamer (foot problems in the postseason), Ryan Hollins, Keyon Dooling and Pietrus (still not over that concussion/neck injury IMO). Who would prefer that bench to Wilcox/Collins/Sully/Green/Terry/Lee/Barbosa?
pretty positive there was a thread that said they'd rather have that bench.
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I don't understand the argument.
That's like saying "If Kevin Durant is OKC's only chance at a championship, why didn't he win it last year"?
Obviously, Rondo was a key player on this team. Losing him makes our chances much, much less than they were before.
My argument is why do we have to turn it all in for him?
And I think that's a wonderful question, too. But I think the difference is OKC fans don't put their trust in just one guy.
At the end of the day, this is a team. With much more talent than last year.
Well, one wouldn't blow up OKC because they are a young team with multiple more title runs in them.
The question is, will Boston be a title contender next season with an even older Pierce and an even older Kevin Garnett? Based on your answer to that - you either blow it up and keep it together.
I say blow it up.
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Why didn't we win it all last year?
With a significantly better PP and KG.
A Ray Allen.
And a bench that many people prefer over this one?
(you cannot answer with 'referees')
I totally agree. If someone could tell me when Rondo became the ONLY factor in us winning a championship, please let me know. I must've missed something.
If anything, now I want to see them win that much more to stop all this abursdity about how the fate of the Celtics was in Rondo's hand. Come on!!
If it was KG that went down, then maybe I'd be singing a different tune as he's the true heart and soul of the team. But Rondo...not buying it
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Why didn't we win it all last year?
With a significantly better PP and KG.
A Ray Allen.
And a bench that many people prefer over this one?
(you cannot answer with 'referees')
I totally agree. If someone could tell me when Rondo became the ONLY factor in us winning a championship, please let me know. I must've missed something.
If anything, now I want to see them win that much more to stop all this abursdity about how the fate of the Celtics was in Rondo's hand. Come on!!
If it was KG that went down, then maybe I'd be singing a different tune as he's the true heart and soul of the team. But Rondo...not buying it
That's a fairly big admission on your part.
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I do agree that losing KG > losing Rondo
From the basketball point of view and the locker room
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Why didn't we win it all last year?
With a significantly better PP and KG.
A Ray Allen.
And a bench that many people prefer over this one?
(you cannot answer with 'referees')
No one said that Rondo guarantees a championship. Our chances are just greater with him
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I don't understand the argument.
That's like saying "If Kevin Durant is OKC's only chance at a championship, why didn't he win it last year"?
Obviously, Rondo was a key player on this team. Losing him makes our chances much, much less than they were before.
My argument is why do we have to turn it all in for him?
And I think that's a wonderful question, too. But I think the difference is OKC fans don't put their trust in just one guy.
At the end of the day, this is a team. With much more talent than last year.
It's a team. I agree we shouldn't pack it all in. I just don't think "We didn't win with Rondo last year, so he's not all that important" is a very good argument.
I must've been unclear in my argument because that wasn't my point at all. I never said Rondo isn't that important. I think my argument is for people who think Rondo is THAT important...that a championship rests on him.
Mmmm the championship went out the window when KG got hurt when we were trying to repeat but theres still games to be played and we even rallied to the second round....but any realistic shot at a title was over with that injury and now this year with rondos. its a team...we get it. when you lose a significant part of your team it hurts...our significant part and injury happens to be rondo.
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Why didn't we win it all last year?
With a significantly better PP and KG.
A Ray Allen.
And a bench that many people prefer over this one?
(you cannot answer with 'referees')
I totally agree. If someone could tell me when Rondo became the ONLY factor in us winning a championship, please let me know. I must've missed something.
If anything, now I want to see them win that much more to stop all this abursdity about how the fate of the Celtics was in Rondo's hand. Come on!!
If it was KG that went down, then maybe I'd be singing a different tune as he's the true heart and soul of the team. But Rondo...not buying it
That's a fairly big admission on your part.
It's basically me saying that I think the Celts stood just as good of a chance at winning a title without Rondo as they would've with him.
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Why didn't we win it all last year?
With a significantly better PP and KG.
A Ray Allen.
And a bench that many people prefer over this one?
(you cannot answer with 'referees')
I totally agree. If someone could tell me when Rondo became the ONLY factor in us winning a championship, please let me know. I must've missed something.
If anything, now I want to see them win that much more to stop all this abursdity about how the fate of the Celtics was in Rondo's hand. Come on!!
If it was KG that went down, then maybe I'd be singing a different tune as he's the true heart and soul of the team. But Rondo...not buying it
That's a fairly big admission on your part.
It's basically me saying that I think the Celts stood just as good of a chance at winning a title without Rondo as they would've with him.
No need to clarify. I got the meaning.
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Why didn't we win it all last year?
With a significantly better PP and KG.
A Ray Allen.
And a bench that many people prefer over this one?
(you cannot answer with 'referees')
Look at the team that lost to Miami. PP was playing through a strained knee ligament and Ray was hobbling around on bad ankles. Aside from that, our bench consisted of Steamer (foot problems in the postseason), Ryan Hollins, Keyon Dooling and Pietrus (still not over that concussion/neck injury IMO). Who would prefer that bench to Wilcox/Collins/Sully/Green/Terry/Lee/Barbosa?
pretty positive there was a thread that said they'd rather have that bench.
There were threads that said they'd rather have Perk than Dwight Howard, doesn't mean much.
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Why didn't we win it all last year?
With a significantly better PP and KG.
A Ray Allen.
And a bench that many people prefer over this one?
(you cannot answer with 'referees')
Well I know for sure Rondo was not even the Top 3 reasons Celtics won in 2008