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Title: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: PhoSita on January 27, 2013, 02:47:28 PM
To what extent does Rondo rely on speed and athleticism?  Will he be a step slower?

I'm very concerned that we may have missed the opportunity to get real value for Rondo while he was still healthy and in his prime.  If he's significantly lessened post-injury, which is conceivable, the Celtics are in a much worse position in terms of rebuilding.

We won't know until he steps on the floor next season.  But this is very concerning.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on January 27, 2013, 02:49:52 PM
lol
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: PhoSita on January 27, 2013, 02:51:40 PM
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Despite the obvious impact on athleticism, players coming back from torn ACLs have generally maintained their performance in the "hustle" statistics--rebounding actually up slightly, steals and blocks similar. The change is most evident in their scoring numbers, as players coming back from torn ACLs tend to use fewer possessions and are much less efficient. They also play fewer minutes and tend to miss more time, playing in 75.7 percent of their teams' games after returning.

From Kevin Pelton (Basketball Prospectus)
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: RJ87 on January 27, 2013, 02:53:14 PM
lol

Lol, indeed.

This thread is really pathetic.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: KGs Knee on January 27, 2013, 02:54:30 PM
Hard to say...

Medicine has come a long way.  Adrian Peterson just came within 9 yards of the single season rushing record fresh off a complete rebuild of his knee.

Up to Rondo on how hard he works to rehab the knee.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: rondohondo on January 27, 2013, 02:56:15 PM
Hard to say...

Medicine has come a long way.  Adrian Peterson just came within 9 yards of the single season rushing record fresh off a complete rebuild of his knee.

Up to Rondo on how hard he works to rehab the knee.

yup rondo just needs a good treatment of some HGH like peterson  ;)
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on January 27, 2013, 02:58:36 PM
Hard to say...

Medicine has come a long way.  Adrian Peterson just came within 9 yards of the single season rushing record fresh off a complete rebuild of his knee.

Up to Rondo on how hard he works to rehab the knee.

This. It's not a sure thing, but players absolutely can come back at full strength from an ACL tear.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: diconzo on January 27, 2013, 03:00:16 PM
lol

Lol, indeed.

This thread is really pathetic.

Why is it? There are no PG's on the trade block, free agency (CP3 isn't leaving), or anywhere else. Rondo coming back from ACL surgery is our best choice at PG. Why not wonder what he's going to contribute coming back? Besides if you thought the C's had a shot at the title this year your blind.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: Roy H. on January 27, 2013, 03:06:41 PM
This is what I'm concerned about.  Some fans are almost celebrating this injury, because they think it will accelerate our rebuilding.  I worry that an injury to Rondo that affects his athleticism will significantly hinder us going forward. 

Regardless of whether the plan was to build around Rondo or to trade him for young pieces, this can't help.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: PhoSita on January 27, 2013, 03:06:49 PM
lol

Lol, indeed.

This thread is really pathetic.

I don't understand the humor.  Torn ACLs are serious business.  How Rondo's game will be affected by the injury in the future will have an enormous affect on the team.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on January 27, 2013, 03:07:28 PM
lol

Lol, indeed.

This thread is really pathetic.

Why is it? There are no PG's on the trade block, free agency (CP3 isn't leaving), or anywhere else. Rondo coming back from ACL surgery is our best choice at PG. Why not wonder what he's going to contribute coming back? Besides if you thought the C's had a shot at the title this year your blind.

Nice how you interpreted the entire meaning of a simple "lol". I lol'd because if I said what I really wanted to say, I would be banned.

I will say you couldn't possibly be more off base.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: PhoSita on January 27, 2013, 03:08:21 PM
This is what I'm concerned about.  Some fans are almost celebrating this injury, because they think it will accelerate our rebuilding.  I worry that an injury to Rondo that affects his athleticism will significantly hinder us going forward. 

Regardless of whether the plan was to build around Rondo or to trade him for young pieces, this can't help.

The one positive is that this happened before the trade deadline rather than after it, so at least the team has the ability to make moves before the trade deadline with revised priorities in mind.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: Who on January 27, 2013, 03:12:48 PM
Yep, it's definitely worrying.

No way to know until Rondo comes back and even then it might take a full year before he is fully up to speed after an injury like that.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: Lucky17 on January 27, 2013, 03:14:49 PM
This is what I'm concerned about.  Some fans are almost celebrating this injury, because they think it will accelerate our rebuilding.  I worry that an injury to Rondo that affects his athleticism will significantly hinder us going forward. 

Regardless of whether the plan was to build around Rondo or to trade him for young pieces, this can't help.

The one positive is that this happened before the trade deadline rather than after it, so at least the team has the ability to make moves before the trade deadline with revised priorities in mind.

Sincerely hope that Ainge doesn't make a panic move, and give up too much to get a PG.

Next few weeks will be interesting, to see how the team plays. I wonder how the offense will run through Lee, Pierce, Barbosa, Bradley, and Terry at various points.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: RJ87 on January 27, 2013, 03:24:28 PM
lol

Lol, indeed.

This thread is really pathetic.

I don't understand the humor.  Torn ACLs are serious business.  How Rondo's game will be affected by the injury in the future will have an enormous affect on the team.

I'm not laughing at the injury. I'm laughing at the patheticness of this thread. The kid's season is over, can we take a moment to feel bad for him as opposed to automatically thinking "we should've traded him".
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on January 27, 2013, 03:26:24 PM
lol

Lol, indeed.

This thread is really pathetic.

I don't understand the humor.  Torn ACLs are serious business.  How Rondo's game will be affected by the injury in the future will have an enormous affect on the team.

I'm not laughing at the injury. I'm laughing at the patheticness of this thread. The kid's season is over, can we take a moment to feel bad for him as opposed to automatically thinking "we should've traded him".

If only I could give you 1000 TPs...one will have to do.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: PhoSita on January 27, 2013, 04:05:18 PM
lol

Lol, indeed.

This thread is really pathetic.

I don't understand the humor.  Torn ACLs are serious business.  How Rondo's game will be affected by the injury in the future will have an enormous affect on the team.

I'm not laughing at the injury. I'm laughing at the patheticness of this thread. The kid's season is over, can we take a moment to feel bad for him as opposed to automatically thinking "we should've traded him".

Yes, let's throw a pity party.

Or, we could talk about things that matter.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: jdz101 on January 27, 2013, 04:29:40 PM
I think Derrick rose's return will be a fairly good indicator of how rondo will look.
Title: Re: How will the injury affect Rondo moving forward?
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 27, 2013, 04:48:51 PM
Rondo's trade value was never that high to begin with.   We've been trying to trade him for years and supposedly we have been turned down several times (Pau Gasol, Steph Curry, Chris Paul)...

He's a great point guard, but I imagine most teams are looking for an impact scorer or a dominant big man.  Guys who can pass great, but can't score don't tend to fetch as much... probably why Jason Kidd was traded multiple times despite being a rich man's Rondo in his prime.

I can't imagine him having much trade value at all now... the possibility of him never returning to 100%.  Nobody would take that risk.

Too bad... I wonder if the Seattle group were to take over the Kings before the deadline if they'd consider moving Cousins and their bad contracts for Rondo.  If they were confident in Rondo getting healthy, they could trade for him and tank while he heals.