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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: rondohondo on January 27, 2013, 01:56:13 PM
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#Celtics officials fear Rajon #Rondo has torn the ACL in his right knee, according to David Baumann of Bright House Network Sports
all over twitter , ughhhhhh
if true we should just tank for a high draft pick. We aren't winning anything without him....
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Celtics officials fear Rajon Rondo has torn the ACL in his right knee, according to David Baumann of Bright House Network Sports. Twitter link:
https://twitter.com/DavidBaumann33/status/295598591811129344
Rondo is sitting out today's game against the Heat with what the team is calling a hyperextended right knee, as Chris Forsberg of ESPNBoston.com notes. Rondo, who hurt himself in Friday's loss to the Hawks, will undergo a precautionary MRI.
An ACL for Rondo, which would surely knock him out for the rest of the season, could be a knockout blow to the Celtics, who sit at 20-22, just two games in front of the Sixers for the last playoff spot in the Eastern Conference. The deadline to apply for a disabled player exception came and went earlier this month, but such an exception, worth half of Rondo's $11MM salary, wouldn't have been much use to the Celtics, who are less than $3MM beneath their hard cap.
Rondo, who had recently been elected an All-Star starter, is in the third season of a team-friendly five-year, $55MM deal. He's shown durability throughout his career, never missing more than 14 games in any of his six seasons prior to this year.
Please don't let this be true!
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I doubt it, he won't be able to walk if he torn his ACL
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If you tear an ACL you can't walk and your knee swells up so much it won't even fit in an MRI machine. Let's be optimistic for just a minute and assume he's OK.
If he's not OK, let the ceiling cave in.
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I doubt it, he won't be able to walk if he torn his ACL
not true walked on a torn acl for a week.
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If true I have a few responses.
1: there goes the our playoff chances
2: for better or worse rondo will likely not be traded this year
3: great opportunity for Bradley, great opportunity for management to evaluate him at the pg spot.
4: may trigger management to go into full rebuild.
5: finally, as much as I've been down on rondo this season this is a WICKED bummer
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It's hyperextended as the say.
I hope it's not gonna get worse.
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I paid 1200 euro's to go to Boston in 1/2 weeks to see them play against the Lakers, Bulls and Nuggets. (i'm from the Netherlands)
PLEASE NO MAJOR INJURIES :'(
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If true I have a few responses.
1: there goes the our playoff chances
2: for better or worse rondo will likely not be traded this year
3: great opportunity for Bradley, great opportunity for management to evaluate him at the pg spot.
4: may trigger management to go into full rebuild.
5: finally, as much as I've been down on rondo this season this is a WICKED bummer
There's no room to evaluate Bardley as a PG because he won't be used at that capacity, and honestly, he's just not cut out to be one. He doesn't have a good dribble, doesn't protect the ball well and it gets away from him too often. So there's really no need to go there.
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If true then it's over for this year and this could also jeopardize his game and future effectiveness.
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Out of all the reporters out there this guy has the scoop? If it were a Magic player I wouldn't be as skeptical.
David Baumann
@DavidBaumann33
The David Baumann Show on @NBCSports' @1080TheTeam & @1040TheTeam airs 6-9a M-F: #Magic #UF #FSU #Miami #UCF #USF #Bucs #Jags '02 @SyracuseU & '09 @RollinsMBA
Orlando & Tampa, FL · http://www.BaumannBroadcasting.com
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Who is David Baumann? Is he even remotely credible or is he another SideshowBob basically saying whatever he wants and fans lap it up like its gospel.
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Who is David Baumann? Is he even remotely credible or is he another SideshowBob basically saying whatever he wants and fans lap it up like its gospel.
He's an Orlando broadcaster. He was the first to report the J.J. Redick rumor (to my recollection) but I don't ever remember him breaking anything else.
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#Celtics officials fear Rajon #Rondo has torn the ACL in his right knee, according to David Baumann of Bright House Network Sports
all over twitter , ughhhhhh
if true we should just tank for a high draft pick. We aren't winning anything without him....
Says who? Anybody here actually watch the games? At the half, game is tied vs Miami and the Celts play better without Rondo because they keep it simple.
It wasn't a coincidence they beat the Knicks a few weeks ago without Rondo.
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Celtics writers starting to pick it up
Jimmy Toscano @Jimmy_Toscano
:( RT @Murf56 Celtics source says Rondo may have torn ACL - getting MRI for it now at New England Baptist.
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I doubt it, he won't be able to walk if he torn his ACL
not true walked on a torn acl for a week.
Yup. Folks live with this injury all the time.
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I doubt it, he won't be able to walk if he torn his ACL
not true walked on a torn acl for a week.
o, I'm very sorry then, my two roommates tore their ACLs and both of them were in very very bad pain. Couldn't walk and need crutches til months after surgery.
Sorry for the comment and please excuse my ignorance
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I doubt it, he won't be able to walk if he torn his ACL
not true walked on a torn acl for a week.
o, I'm very sorry then, my two roommates tore their ACLs and both of them were in very very bad pain. Couldn't walk and need crutches til months after surgery.
Sorry for the comment and please excuse my ignorance
It probably depends on the extent of the tear.
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#Celtics officials fear Rajon #Rondo has torn the ACL in his right knee, according to David Baumann of Bright House Network Sports
all over twitter , ughhhhhh
if true we should just tank for a high draft pick. We aren't winning anything without him....
Says who? Anybody here actually watch the games? At the half, game is tied vs Miami and the Celts play better without Rondo because they keep it simple.
It wasn't a coincidence they beat the Knicks a few weeks ago without Rondo.
even heavier work load on PP and KG, it ain't happening....
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Celtics writers starting to pick it up
Jimmy Toscano @Jimmy_Toscano
:( RT @Murf56 Celtics source says Rondo may have torn ACL - getting MRI for it now at New England Baptist.
Ben Rohrbach @brohrbach about 14 minutes ago
Celtics team doctor still doesn't know anything on Rondo yet. May know more by halftime. @Murf56 reports possible torn ACL.
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"Blessing in disguise" was my first earnest reaction to reading this rumor.
I feel terrible about this.
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might of had to wait until today to get the mri so swelling went down
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#Celtics officials fear Rajon #Rondo has torn the ACL in his right knee, according to David Baumann of Bright House Network Sports
all over twitter , ughhhhhh
if true we should just tank for a high draft pick. We aren't winning anything without him....
Says who? Anybody here actually watch the games? At the half, game is tied vs Miami and the Celts play better without Rondo because they keep it simple.
It wasn't a coincidence they beat the Knicks a few weeks ago without Rondo.
Everybody here watches this team, no need for the "I know more then you" tude
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#Celtics officials fear Rajon #Rondo has torn the ACL in his right knee, according to David Baumann of Bright House Network Sports
all over twitter , ughhhhhh
if true we should just tank for a high draft pick. We aren't winning anything without him....
Says who? Anybody here actually watch the games? At the half, game is tied vs Miami and the Celts play better without Rondo because they keep it simple.
It wasn't a coincidence they beat the Knicks a few weeks ago without Rondo.
First things first - we beat the Knicks because of Melo's meltdown. The Knicks are pretty beatable when he plays like that.
As far as today, are we playing better? Or is Miami playing down to the level of competition?
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I doubt it, he won't be able to walk if he torn his ACL
not true walked on a torn acl for a week.
o, I'm very sorry then, my two roommates tore their ACLs and both of them were in very very bad pain. Couldn't walk and need crutches til months after surgery.
Sorry for the comment and please excuse my ignorance
It probably depends on the extent of the tear.
Yeah rg3 walked on his torn ACL and LCL as he left the Seattle playoff game earlier this month.
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picking up steam now
Steve Bulpett @SteveBHoop
Celtics now concerned Rondo may have ACL injury. If so, many questions about what path to take this season get answered.
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"Blessing in disguise" was my first earnest reaction to reading this rumor.
If you are a "blow it up" advocate (and I am not one of those), you're better off being temporarily bad due to a massive wave of injuries with talent that will heal rather than be bad due to a lack of talent that will take years to recover from.
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Sources close to Rajon Rondo tells Y! Sports that Celtics are still waiting on examination concerning a possible ACL injury.
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KG and PP, Barbosa to Lac
Jordan, Butler, Bledsoe filler to Boston .
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Please let this be a Twitter created rumor.
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picking up steam now
Steve Bulpett @SteveBHoop
Celtics now concerned Rondo may have ACL injury. If so, many questions about what path to take this season get answered.
If true, that's unfortunate. Every single year we have major injuries!
A Delonte West signing perhaps?
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I remember Leon Powe tried to play on a torn ACL as well.
Some people can still walk and move despite the injury. I don't know why - maybe it's pain tolerance, or maybe their bodies just react differently to the injury. But it's not impossible that Rondo could have done significant damage and still managed to walk on it.
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Probably a sprained MCL or something like that.
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Sources close to Rajon Rondo tells Y! Sports that Celtics are still waiting on examination concerning a possible ACL injury.
Yeah this is real. Wow.
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Sounds like it's more than just a Twitter Hoax.
Perhaps he just sprained his ACL or something like that, but regardless, this is dire news.
If the worst case scenario is true and he tore his ACL, you can pretty much kiss the season goodbye. Time to tank for a lottery pick.
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Man I was about to say how lucky we've been regarding injuries this year, especially relative to all the crap we've been through since 2009. Even if we might not have a strong playoff run this year, this injury would be beyond devastating.
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Two Celtics sources tell Y! that team's awaiting Rondo's MRI results on injured knee. He's currently at New England Baptist Hospital.
So basically...they know nothing.
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if its true, i blow it up!
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Can you guys stop saying its a hoax? Rondo is at a hospital right now.
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I expect it probably is torn.
That has been the Celtics luck over the last few years. When you think it can't get any worse, it does.
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I expect it probably is torn.
That has been the Celtics luck over the last few years. When you think it can't get any worse, it does.
guess you have to make an alter ego profile called Rondos knee now right?
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Two Celtics sources tell Y! that team's awaiting Rondo's MRI results on injured knee. He's currently at New England Baptist Hospital.
So basically...they know nothing.
Yeah, the reports add up to:
1. The team doesn't know what's going on with Rondo, because they haven't gotten his MRI results back yet; but
2. They're worried it's the ACL.
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The bad news just keeps coming.
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If this is true then I feel bad for him.
I expect it probably is torn.
That has been the Celtics luck over the last few years. When you think it can't get any worse, it does.
This. I hate using the injury excuse but I promise this team has bad luck when dealing with injuries.
They haven't been fully healthy since the 08 run.
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Confirmed
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it is torn
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confirmed by doris burke , it's a torn acl
it's over....
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Confirmed :(
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NBA Guru @NBAGuru
As reported by Doris Burke, Rajon Rondo has torn his ACL and will need to have surgery. Season is over.
Wow. This...sucks.
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confirmed... seasons over, rebuild time
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Well, there you have it. Season is pretty screwed now.
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Enjoy this game folks...might be the end of this group
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OMG, CAN WE CATCH A BREAK! WTH!!!!
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How long out for an ACL?
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Screwed
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How long out for an ACL?
Generally around 8-12 months. Sometimes guys can make it back in 6 months if they are quick healers.
Definitely done for season.
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That's correct JoT, unfortunately...
I think a very legitimate argument can be made that this KG, PP, RR era could have easily put up 2 more titles so far had it not been for very bad luck with injuries.
2009: KG down - that team, even if thinner off the bench with the loss of Posey, was "still" incredibly dominant. That starting five, if they remained healthy, would have been very hard to beat.
2010: Perkins goes down in game 6? C'mon...game 6? I think we very well might have one that title had Perkins not gone down.
2011: Rondo hyper-extended arm, and Shaq. When Shaq was giving us just 10-15 minutes a night banging people, we were playing some of the best basketball overall since KG arrived.
2012: Avery Bradley hawking Wade "may" very well have made the difference in us sneaking into the finals. Wade basically had a layup line with Ray on him, which effected how well we could then guard LeBron. Ray was also very limited on top of that...
I liked our chances against OKC
This group is kind of like the heartbreak hotel - with just a "little bit" better luck with key injuries at bad times, I think we for sure would have put "at least" one more title for KG and Pierce - that would have been nice.
Three also possible...
Four more of a stretch but also possible...
You can't have injuries to your key guys and still get there..
2009: KG, Powe
2010: Perkins
2011: Rondo / Shaq
2012: Bradley / Ray (Our team "had it going" with Bradley in the lineup that year) it was a big loss of rhythm when he went down and again, he would have made life much more difficult on Wade - which would have allowed our defense more freedom to load up on LeBron...
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Nooooooooooo
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wonder how this affects the trade deadline now
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Unbelievable.
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Awful news. Stomach punch type stuff.
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Well on the plus side it answers (or almost answers) a few questions:
Rondo will not be traded.
Likelihood of blow-up and build to future increases dramatically.
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2013: Rajon Rondo, torn ACL...
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That's correct JoT, unfortunately...
I think a very legitimate argument can be made that this KG, PP, RR era could have easily put up 2 more titles so far had it not been for very bad luck with injuries.
2009: KG down - that team, even if thinner off the bench with the loss of Posey, was "still" incredibly dominant. That starting five, if they remained healthy, would have been very hard to beat.
2010: Perkins goes down in game 6? C'mon...game 6? I think we very well might have one that title had Perkins not gone down.
2011: Rondo hyper-extended arm, and Shaq. When Shaq was giving us just 10-15 minutes a night banging people, we were playing some of the best basketball overall since KG arrived.
2012: Avery Bradley hawking Wade "may" very well have made the difference in us sneaking into the finals. Wade basically had a layup line with Ray on him, which effected how well we could then guard LeBron. Ray was also very limited on top of that...
I liked our chances against OKC
This group is kind of like the heartbreak hotel - with just a "little bit" better luck with key injuries at bad times, I think we for sure would have put "at least" one more title for KG and Pierce - that would have been nice.
Three also possible...
Four more of a stretch but also possible...
You can't have injuries to your key guys and still get there..
2009: KG, Powe
2010: Perkins
2011: Rondo / Shaq
2012: Bradley / Ray (Our team "had it going" with Bradley in the lineup that year) it was a big loss of rhythm when he went down and again, he would have made life much more difficult on Wade - which would have allowed our defense more freedom to load up on LeBron...
why o why! have we angered the basketball gods! I feel like we became the Portland Trailblazers, always so unfortunate with injuries!
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The Celtics now have exactly zero point guards on their roster.
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[dang], this hurts!
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Hmm... blowing it up is now on the table.
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This is without a doubt a huge blow.
I may be naive, but I'm not ready to blow it up yet. Without Rondo, we are playing the Miami Heat to a tie right now. The celts now are aware of Rondo's results, so I don't know what kind of basketball we'll see for the rest of this game. This roster still has a ton of talent on it. I really liked what I saw defensively out of the AB-Lee starting backcourt tonight. I'd like to see what Jason Terry can do with increased minutes and the ball in his hands more.
I'd just like to see a few games before we blow it up. Still a lot of talent on this roster.
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Awful news.. wonder where this leads us now..
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Ugh it's not fair at all >:(!!!
This team can never get a break with injuries and I hate that.
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wonder how this affects the trade deadline now
my initial reaction
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Unbelievable... I guess the next few days are the last ones of the Big 3 era, going back to irrelevance... oh boy... :'(
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He won't even be back for the beginning of next season.
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Just the way things have gone since 2009. Just a depressing frickin day for C's fans.
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Am I the only happy Rondo is gone!!!! Watch this team play like the team we've been hoping for without him... Wooooohoooo!!!!!! It's time to start winning again!!!!! Yes!!!!! Sucks that he suffered an injury but it only helps us. Now let's sign a big!!! Or bring back Melo. This injury mean more playing time for everyone!!!!
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This is without a doubt a huge blow.
I may be naive, but I'm not ready to blow it up yet. Without Rondo, we are playing the Miami Heat to a tie right now. The celts now are aware of Rondo's results, so I don't know what kind of basketball we'll see for the rest of this game. This roster still has a ton of talent on it. I really liked what I saw defensively out of the AB-Lee starting backcourt tonight. I'd like to see what Jason Terry can do with increased minutes and the ball in his hands more.
I'd just like to see a few games before we blow it up. Still a lot of talent on this roster.
I'm with you on this, action. Definitely changes the tenor of the season, but I still think the current roster makes the playoffs, by default (looking at the rest of the Eastern conference).
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Wishing Rajon a speedy recovery
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Bleh wrong thread.
Still wow.
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::::BREAKING NEWS:::
Rondo's torn ACL causes Celticsblog.com to crash!
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This is without a doubt a huge blow.
I may be naive, but I'm not ready to blow it up yet. Without Rondo, we are playing the Miami Heat to a tie right now. The celts now are aware of Rondo's results, so I don't know what kind of basketball we'll see for the rest of this game. This roster still has a ton of talent on it. I really liked what I saw defensively out of the AB-Lee starting backcourt tonight. I'd like to see what Jason Terry can do with increased minutes and the ball in his hands more.
I'd just like to see a few games before we blow it up. Still a lot of talent on this roster.
I'm with you on this, action. Definitely changes the tenor of the season, but I still think the current roster makes the playoffs, by default (looking at the rest of the Eastern conference).
I'm not convinced it's worth keeping this team together to try and make a run next season given the age and decline of Pierce and Garnett + the limited options Boston have for upgrading the team this summer with so many multi-year contracts already on the books and limited trade assets.
I say blow it up.
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This is without a doubt a huge blow.
I may be naive, but I'm not ready to blow it up yet. Without Rondo, we are playing the Miami Heat to a tie right now. The celts now are aware of Rondo's results, so I don't know what kind of basketball we'll see for the rest of this game. This roster still has a ton of talent on it. I really liked what I saw defensively out of the AB-Lee starting backcourt tonight. I'd like to see what Jason Terry can do with increased minutes and the ball in his hands more.
I'd just like to see a few games before we blow it up. Still a lot of talent on this roster.
I'm with you on this, action. Definitely changes the tenor of the season, but I still think the current roster makes the playoffs, by default (looking at the rest of the Eastern conference).
I'm not convinced it's worth keeping this team together to try and make a run next season given the age and decline of Pierce and Garnett + the limited options Boston have for upgrading the team this summer with so many multi-year contracts already on the books and limited trade assets.
I say blow it up.
I could honestly see someone like Pierce traded to a contender for a couple assets
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Am I the only happy Rondo is gone!!!! Watch this team play like the team we've been hoping for without him... Wooooohoooo!!!!!! It's time to start winning again!!!!! Yes!!!!! Sucks that he suffered an injury but it only helps us. Now let's sign a big!!! Or bring back Melo. This injury mean more playing time for everyone!!!!
Yeah, it's always good when your star player suffers a potentially career-altering injury.
Even if you don't like Rondo, this kills any trade value until probably next year's deadline, at the earliest.
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Am I the only happy Rondo is gone!!!! Watch this team play like the team we've been hoping for without him... Wooooohoooo!!!!!! It's time to start winning again!!!!! Yes!!!!! Sucks that he suffered an injury but it only helps us. Now let's sign a big!!! Or bring back Melo. This injury mean more playing time for everyone!!!!
You're probably not the only one, doesn't mean you're right.
This is a huge blow, whether you or anyone else chooses to acknowledge it.
Quite honestly, I find the tenor of your post disrespectful and abhorrent.
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Wishing Rajon a speedy recovery
Pretty amazing how long it took someone to say this.
TP.
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when baseball season start?? :'(
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just sick about this. i don't want to see pierce go
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Comcast is going to take a big blow in ratings.
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This is without a doubt a huge blow.
I may be naive, but I'm not ready to blow it up yet. Without Rondo, we are playing the Miami Heat to a tie right now. The celts now are aware of Rondo's results, so I don't know what kind of basketball we'll see for the rest of this game. This roster still has a ton of talent on it. I really liked what I saw defensively out of the AB-Lee starting backcourt tonight. I'd like to see what Jason Terry can do with increased minutes and the ball in his hands more.
I'd just like to see a few games before we blow it up. Still a lot of talent on this roster.
I'm with you on this, action. Definitely changes the tenor of the season, but I still think the current roster makes the playoffs, by default (looking at the rest of the Eastern conference).
I'm not convinced it's worth keeping this team together to try and make a run next season given the age and decline of Pierce and Garnett + the limited options Boston have for upgrading the team this summer with so many multi-year contracts already on the books and limited trade assets.
I say blow it up.
It depends on what we can get. If we could get a legitimate rebuilding piece like Paul George, sure. But I'm not on board with trading away Pierce or KG for minor pieces like Eric Bledsoe.
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Really hope this doesn't mean the end of KG and Paul.. terrible ending if true
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Barbosa is the fantasy go to.
Pierce is now an all star
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We're screwed.
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What's the extent of the injury? Full ACL tear, or partial? Damage to any of the other ligaments?
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Please, Rondo, please get better soon. Wish you luck.
I hope this team takes this as a wake up call and not the other way around...
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Well it was a fun run, folks. Here's to the rebuild! Lets hope this one doesn't last 20 years like the last one.
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Get well soon, Rajon.
This sucks on several levels.
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Man, this is tough. Most likely signaling the end of an era. It's been a fun 6 years, it got kinda depressing there towards the end but nonetheless the team has left me with countless memories.
Hopefully the rest of the season won't be a farewell tour for KG and PP, Danny should do the right thing and trade them to a contender for some young pieces. Maybe the Clippers Will take them for Jordan, Butler, Odom and a first.
I wish Rajon a speedy recovery but i'm hoping he's played his last game as a Celtic.
I'm just so glad we have Bradley and Sully going in to this rebuilding stage, two guys that play their hearts out, it's a start but i have a feeling banner 18 is a loooong ways away. Hopefully not 22 years.
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Man, this is tough. Most likely signaling the end of an era. It's been a fun 6 years, it got kinda depressing there towards the end but nonetheless the team has left me with countless memories.
Hopefully the rest of the season won't be a farewell tour for KG and PP, Danny should do the right thing and trade them to a contender for some young pieces. Maybe the Clippers Will take them for Jordan, Butler, Odom and a first.
I wish Rajon a speedy recovery but i'm hoping he's played his last game as a Celtic.
I'm just so glad we have Bradley and Sully going in to this rebuilding stage, two guys that play their hearts out, it's a start but i have a feeling banner 18 is a loooong ways away. Hopefully not 22 years.
So, you want to trade 2 hall of famers, maybe the 2 best players of the past era for scrubs and a pick?
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Well it was a fun run, folks. Here's to the rebuild! Lets hope this one doesn't last 20 years like the last one.
This is more like:
a) the team regroups and plays a good season like the 2008-2009 and Garnett out for the season
b) tanking and getting a good pick. KG and Pierce play next year or retire in green.
Right now, nobody is giving back fair value for KG, PP.
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Hopefully the rest of the season won't be a farewell tour for KG and PP, Danny should do the right thing and trade them to a contender for some young pieces. Maybe the Clippers Will take them for Jordan, Butler, Odom and a first.
I disagree. Play out the season.
I don't see Pierce or KG getting us any pieces that will bring us back into contention. We will need to be terrible for a couple of years. So, let them retire as Celtics and then hope the ping-pong balls treat us right when the time comes.
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I'm sorry but i'm ok with Rondo being out for the year. If we were not going to trade him, then this is an alternative way to have him out. I don't hate rondo, but the team will play better and simple without him. Everyone else will get more touches
Tonight Lee and Bradley were great. Such suffocating defense i love to see. Don't think we really need another guard as i like Barbosa and Terry as the backups.
Great win tonight
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Max is saying Rondo told him he would be back in 2 weeks ?
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We're screwed.
we will be better. Don't worry
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Jeff Green's defense on lebron the entire night has won us this game. His defense on lebron all night was as good as I have ever seen.
Bradley/Lee combined defense on Wade was no small feat either.
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I say we move Bass and something and get a true center.. I would hate this to be the end of KG and Paul as Celtics. I think in the end its up to them. I feel as if Danny would ask them if they would rather ride it out in Boston or go to contenders. Knowing the pride those two have they would rather stick it out here. I mean we did just beat the heat.. But if they want to ride it out they need someone to help out. BIG TIME
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Am I the only one who sees Pierce as good as gone after Rondo's injury?
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Jeff Green's defense on lebron the entire night has won us this game. His defense on lebron all night was as good as I have ever seen.
Bradley/Lee combined defense on Wade was no small feat either.
Yeah, Jeff Green's length really bothered LeBron at times. Especially on those mid-to-high post isolations and back to basket plays.
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This better without Rondo stuff is mind boggling. The Clippers were able to keep winning without Chris Paul. Does that mean they are better without him? The Bulls. No Rose. Still a solid ball club. Does that mean they're better without him? No.
When a big part of your team goes out the rest of the team steps up and plays harder to make up for it. I think we'll be okay and I do not think the season's over but better? IMO, no. Different? Yes. We will surprise a lot of people.
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All the guys ripping Rondo's D owe him an apology.
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This better without Rondo stuff is mind boggling. The Clippers were able to keep winning without Chris Paul. Does that mean they are better without him? The Bulls. No Rose. Still a solid, ball club. Does that mean they're better without him? No.
When a big part of your team goes out the rest of the team steps up and plays harder to make up for it. I think we'll be okay and I do not think the season's over but better? IMO, no. Different? Yes. We will surprise a lot of people.
This.
TP.
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This we will be better stuff is mind boggling. The Clippers were able to keep winning without Chris Paul. Does that mean they are better without him? The Bulls. No Rose. Still a solid, ball club. Does that mean they're better without him? No.
When a big part of your team goes out the rest of the team steps up and plays harder to make up for it. I think we'll be okay and I do not think the season's over but better? IMO, no. Different? Yes.
We are 2-0 against two top teams without Rondo for a reason. Don't let Rondo's triple doubles fool you. His defense especially is really hard to watch. He has the speed to be as good as Bradley, but no discipline to focus on them from the beginning to the end of a possession. It has seriously hurt us enough times, especially late in the games.
Also on the offensive end, its not so much his lack of consistent shooting, but also endless dribbling in one spot, walking the ball up lazily to the offensive end, and only passing it to kg/pp when the game is on the line. Its not even good passes, just silly telegraphed lobs.
Rondo is a good pg, no doubt. But not for our team. Not anymore. He might fit better for a team like Denver or Knicks , who love to play high octane offense. Would be perfect for the fakers.
Without rondo, you get a suffocating defensive tandem in Lee and Bradley. Watch what happened to wade tonight. Defense is almost as good as scoring. And the ball was passed around more , giving better opportunity for everyone on the court to score or contribute somehow.
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That's a tough blow. What's the fastest one can recover from ACL surgery? Could he come back for the playoffs?
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That's a tough blow. What's the fastest one can recover from ACL surgery? Could he come back for the playoffs?
I think Wes Welker was one of the fastest recoveries. Along with Adrian Peterson. But in an easy way no. He will not be back for the playoffs. Better that he doesn't rush anything and has a strong recovery.
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As I said earlier, I think the Celtics play better without Rondo. I know it's just one game, but notice you didn't see as many turnovers today?
Anyway, hope Rondo recovers soon. I hope the Celtics carry on without him just as much
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This we will be better stuff is mind boggling. The Clippers were able to keep winning without Chris Paul. Does that mean they are better without him? The Bulls. No Rose. Still a solid, ball club. Does that mean they're better without him? No.
When a big part of your team goes out the rest of the team steps up and plays harder to make up for it. I think we'll be okay and I do not think the season's over but better? IMO, no. Different? Yes.
We are 2-0 against two top teams without Rondo for a reason. Don't let Rondo's triple doubles fool you. His defense especially is really hard to watch. He has the speed to be as good as Bradley, but no discipline to focus on them from the beginning to the end of a possession. It has seriously hurt us enough times, especially late in the games.
Also on the offensive end, its not so much his lack of consistent shooting, but also endless dribbling in one spot, walking the ball up lazily to the offensive end, and only passing it to kg/pp when the game is on the line. Its not even good passes, just silly telegraphed lobs.
Rondo is a good pg, no doubt. But not for our team. Not anymore. He might fit better for a team like Denver or Knicks , who love to play high octane offense. Would be perfect for the fakers.
Without rondo, you get a suffocating defensive tandem in Lee and Bradley. Watch what happened to wade tonight. Defense is almost as good as scoring. And the ball was passed around more , giving better opportunity for everyone on the court to score or contribute somehow.
Unfortunately I'm not willing to go back and forth with you on this. We'll have to agree to disagree.
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A million dollar question.
IF we win the championship without Rondo, do we trade him?
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I agree at times the Celtics look good without Rondo. But the way he has been playing in the playoffs since 09' is the reason we have been as good as we have. I really hate that this happened to Rondo. So now i think we try all out for a true center and go with a lineup of.
AB/Barbosa/JET
Clee/JET/Barbosa
Paul/Green
KG/Sully/FA pickup
Gortat??/Melo/Collins
Try and use bass with picks to grab someone. That team could make noise but not enough. But hey I'd rather see Paul and KG in Green in the playoffs rather than on other teams!
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This better without Rondo stuff is mind boggling. The Clippers were able to keep winning without Chris Paul. Does that mean they are better without him? The Bulls. No Rose. Still a solid ball club. Does that mean they're better without him? No.
When a big part of your team goes out the rest of the team steps up and plays harder to make up for it. I think we'll be okay and I do not think the season's over but better? IMO, no. Different? Yes. We will surprise a lot of people.
I think the main difference for us without Rondo is that guys like Lee get to showcase their talents a bit more. Rondo is a great passer, but the team, on the whole, becomes more complacent waiting for him to make a dazzling pass.
I'm disappointed Rondo is out for the year, and hate to see anyone from our team go down. But this will be interesting to see what they choose to do down the stretch, especially after pulling out a win against the defending champs. I personally think we need to get a center, or maximize our assets from a win like this and get some available younger talent.
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That's a tough blow. What's the fastest one can recover from ACL surgery? Could he come back for the playoffs?
Next year's playoffs sure. Depending on a few things, it will probably be nine months to year, and he probably won't feel 100% until year two.
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This better without Rondo stuff is mind boggling. The Clippers were able to keep winning without Chris Paul. Does that mean they are better without him? The Bulls. No Rose. Still a solid ball club. Does that mean they're better without him? No.
When a big part of your team goes out the rest of the team steps up and plays harder to make up for it. I think we'll be okay and I do not think the season's over but better? IMO, no. Different? Yes. We will surprise a lot of people.
I think the main difference for us without Rondo is that guys like Lee get to showcase their talents a bit more. Rondo is a great passer, but the team, on the whole, becomes more complacent waiting for him to make a dazzling pass.
I'm disappointed Rondo is out for the year, and hate to see anyone from our team go down. But this will be interesting to see what they choose to do down the stretch, especially after pulling out a win against the defending champs. I personally think we need to get a center, or maximize our assets from a win like this and get some available younger talent.
agreed. And after tonight's game , i guess Ainge has probably made up his mind that Pierce is going nowhere this year. He played better tonight without Rondo.
Much more involved, especially with his passing. He was definitely a pt pg tonight.
I would still consider trading him for the right pieces, but if we keep playing the way we did without rondo vs knicks and tonight, lets just keep going and winning
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Am I the only one who sees Pierce as good as gone after Rondo's injury?
I doubt you are the only one. But my guess is they take a deep breath for a few days, consider options, and then (perhaps) ask Pierce and KG if they pefer to gut this out or prefer Danny to find a trade with a near-contender. Not that it's up to PP or KG, but I think DA saves himself public relations nightmares if he speaks to them in advance.
Trades still need to be favorable. Danny may be happy to let the contracts age another year and see if he can put together a winner WITH KG and Pierce (and RR) next year.
Would need to get back some serious young talent and picks to trade PP or KG.
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This we will be better stuff is mind boggling. The Clippers were able to keep winning without Chris Paul. Does that mean they are better without him? The Bulls. No Rose. Still a solid, ball club. Does that mean they're better without him? No.
When a big part of your team goes out the rest of the team steps up and plays harder to make up for it. I think we'll be okay and I do not think the season's over but better? IMO, no. Different? Yes.
We are 2-0 against two top teams without Rondo for a reason. Don't let Rondo's triple doubles fool you. His defense especially is really hard to watch. He has the speed to be as good as Bradley, but no discipline to focus on them from the beginning to the end of a possession. It has seriously hurt us enough times, especially late in the games.
Also on the offensive end, its not so much his lack of consistent shooting, but also endless dribbling in one spot, walking the ball up lazily to the offensive end, and only passing it to kg/pp when the game is on the line. Its not even good passes, just silly telegraphed lobs.
Rondo is a good pg, no doubt. But not for our team. Not anymore. He might fit better for a team like Denver or Knicks , who love to play high octane offense. Would be perfect for the fakers.
Without rondo, you get a suffocating defensive tandem in Lee and Bradley. Watch what happened to wade tonight. Defense is almost as good as scoring. And the ball was passed around more , giving better opportunity for everyone on the court to score or contribute somehow.
Unfortunately I'm not willing to go back and forth with you on this. We'll have to agree to disagree.
I'll only add this then I'm done too: Paul Pierce found about Rondo post game on live TV. In that moment, the look on his face spoke volumes - our season is done.
People will look at the game against the Knicks as some sort of indictment, but anytime the opposition's best player has a complete meltdown, you'll be in the game. Lets not forget that in Friday's rematch, it was Rondo who took over in the 4th quarter to get us within striking distance. As far as today's game, it took double overtime and a Paul Pierce triple double to barely get the win.
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This we will be better stuff is mind boggling. The Clippers were able to keep winning without Chris Paul. Does that mean they are better without him? The Bulls. No Rose. Still a solid, ball club. Does that mean they're better without him? No.
When a big part of your team goes out the rest of the team steps up and plays harder to make up for it. I think we'll be okay and I do not think the season's over but better? IMO, no. Different? Yes.
We are 2-0 against two top teams without Rondo for a reason. Don't let Rondo's triple doubles fool you. His defense especially is really hard to watch. He has the speed to be as good as Bradley, but no discipline to focus on them from the beginning to the end of a possession. It has seriously hurt us enough times, especially late in the games.
Also on the offensive end, its not so much his lack of consistent shooting, but also endless dribbling in one spot, walking the ball up lazily to the offensive end, and only passing it to kg/pp when the game is on the line. Its not even good passes, just silly telegraphed lobs.
Rondo is a good pg, no doubt. But not for our team. Not anymore. He might fit better for a team like Denver or Knicks , who love to play high octane offense. Would be perfect for the fakers.
Without rondo, you get a suffocating defensive tandem in Lee and Bradley. Watch what happened to wade tonight. Defense is almost as good as scoring. And the ball was passed around more , giving better opportunity for everyone on the court to score or contribute somehow.
Unfortunately I'm not willing to go back and forth with you on this. We'll have to agree to disagree.
I'll only add this then I'm done too: Paul Pierce found about Rondo post game on live TV. In that moment, the look on his face spoke volumes - our season is done.
People will look at the game against the Knicks as some sort of indictment, but anytime the opposition's best player has a complete meltdown, you'll be in the game. Lets not forget that in Friday's rematch, it was Rondo who took over in the 4th quarter to get us within striking distance. As far as today's game, it took double overtime and a Paul Pierce triple double to barely get the win.
What did Pierce's face say? All I READ INTO it was that he empathized and thought how horrible it is for Rondo. You too are just reading into his facial expression.
And, really, using something so completely ambiguous as as evidence for your point in a disagreement? Are our standards really that low?
Anyone can conveniently pick their data points to try to support their opinion. Only time will tell regarding our team without Rondo. Terry should benefit a lot offensively from Rondo's absence, as will Barbosa. It is not clear to me who else would benefit.
Defense is a different story. We really need to see what will happen. Lee & Bradley will probably be a more disciplined backcourt defensively than Rondo & Bradley.
Playing without Rondo might also lead to a more tired Pierce, since he might end up with the ball a lot more as a playmaker. Green didn't seem to miss Rondo today. As great as Rondo is, it does not mean that there aren't players who aren't hurt by his particular style of play.
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This we will be better stuff is mind boggling. The Clippers were able to keep winning without Chris Paul. Does that mean they are better without him? The Bulls. No Rose. Still a solid, ball club. Does that mean they're better without him? No.
When a big part of your team goes out the rest of the team steps up and plays harder to make up for it. I think we'll be okay and I do not think the season's over but better? IMO, no. Different? Yes.
We are 2-0 against two top teams without Rondo for a reason. Don't let Rondo's triple doubles fool you. His defense especially is really hard to watch. He has the speed to be as good as Bradley, but no discipline to focus on them from the beginning to the end of a possession. It has seriously hurt us enough times, especially late in the games.
Also on the offensive end, its not so much his lack of consistent shooting, but also endless dribbling in one spot, walking the ball up lazily to the offensive end, and only passing it to kg/pp when the game is on the line. Its not even good passes, just silly telegraphed lobs.
Rondo is a good pg, no doubt. But not for our team. Not anymore. He might fit better for a team like Denver or Knicks , who love to play high octane offense. Would be perfect for the fakers.
Without rondo, you get a suffocating defensive tandem in Lee and Bradley. Watch what happened to wade tonight. Defense is almost as good as scoring. And the ball was passed around more , giving better opportunity for everyone on the court to score or contribute somehow.
Unfortunately I'm not willing to go back and forth with you on this. We'll have to agree to disagree.
I'll only add this then I'm done too: Paul Pierce found about Rondo post game on live TV. In that moment, the look on his face spoke volumes - our season is done.
People will look at the game against the Knicks as some sort of indictment, but anytime the opposition's best player has a complete meltdown, you'll be in the game. Lets not forget that in Friday's rematch, it was Rondo who took over in the 4th quarter to get us within striking distance. As far as today's game, it took double overtime and a Paul Pierce triple double to barely get the win.
My friend, its the freaking heat we played. Not bobcats.
You think Rondo would of made a big difference? You think while bradley locksdown Wade, Rondo would of done the same against Allen?
I understand how good Rondo can be, and how he is considered our heart and soul, but people have to see it from a different angle too. With Rondo, we have been going on brutal losing streaks. Its not all on him but he is a HUGE part of it.
We will be a better team moving forward.
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THIS...is why i say get fab melo into the mix....why....what if kg goes down.....rondo is a lot younger and he got hurt...that is how it goes......gotta have a plan B.....as in backup.....train/teach melo now...what better teacher than kg......doc is so short sighted....
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Get well, Rajon!
This must be tough for him, but he'll be back.
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This is docs team as in a "guard" team..we have plenty of guards...i LOVE rondo...but we have courtney, avery.....barbosa....who is our backup center.....???
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Beyond hysterical. The Celtics are a better team without a point guard who supposedly was in the top 20 for league MVP. Add to that that they do not even have another point guard on the roster and I would say start putting their name on the championship trophy now. ::)
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Beyond hysterical. The Celtics are a better team without a point guard who supposedly was in the top 20 for league MVP. Add to that that they do not even have another point guard on the roster and I would say start putting their name on the championship trophy now. ::)
How about becoming hysterical bc with a top considered pg, we go on embarrassing losing streaks??
How about without him, we play better defense, share the ball more on offense and are 2-0 now against two of best teams in the league?
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Beyond hysterical. The Celtics are a better team without a point guard who supposedly was in the top 20 for league MVP. Add to that that they do not even have another point guard on the roster and I would say start putting their name on the championship trophy now. ::)
How about becoming hysterical bc with a top considered pg, we go on embarrassing losing streaks??
How about without him, we play better defense, share the ball more on offense and are 2-0 now??
I love the insanity of Celticsblog.com!
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Beyond hysterical. The Celtics are a better team without a point guard who supposedly was in the top 20 for league MVP. Add to that that they do not even have another point guard on the roster and I would say start putting their name on the championship trophy now. ::)
How about becoming hysterical bc with a top considered pg, we go on embarrassing losing streaks??
How about without him, we play better defense, share the ball more on offense and are 2-0 now against two of best teams in the league?
Funny how you're neglecting losses to Golden State and Milwaukee this season without Rondo.
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Rondo probably would have played tonight if they'd let him. Surely isn't perfect but has a ton of heart.
I don't think the celtics are missing the playoffs. I hear what some dudes are saying about other guards getting their minutes and the D being tighter etc.
I do not think there's any way the C's are better without Rondo. But even if you do, Rondo is a BEAST in the playoffs. He's the reason I thought there was SOME shot at a Banner if they could just get into the playoffs, even as an 8th seed.
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Beyond hysterical. The Celtics are a better team without a point guard who supposedly was in the top 20 for league MVP. Add to that that they do not even have another point guard on the roster and I would say start putting their name on the championship trophy now. ::)
How about becoming hysterical bc with a top considered pg, we go on embarrassing losing streaks??
How about without him, we play better defense, share the ball more on offense and are 2-0 now against two of best teams in the league?
Funny how you're neglecting losses to Golden State and Milwaukee this season without Rondo.
We didn't even have Bradley and Lee was still trying to get comfortable in the lineup.
Listen we beat probably the best team in the league tonight. We also beat a really tough new york knicks team, who got their revenge on us a few games ago. We will be very hard to beat , i don't care against who it is.
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
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Beyond hysterical. The Celtics are a better team without a point guard who supposedly was in the top 20 for league MVP. Add to that that they do not even have another point guard on the roster and I would say start putting their name on the championship trophy now. ::)
How about becoming hysterical bc with a top considered pg, we go on embarrassing losing streaks??
How about without him, we play better defense, share the ball more on offense and are 2-0 now against two of best teams in the league?
Funny how you're neglecting losses to Golden State and Milwaukee this season without Rondo.
We didn't even have Bradley and Lee was still trying to get comfortable in the lineup.
Listen we beat probably the best team in the league tonight. We also beat a really tough new york knicks team, who got their revenge on us a few games ago. We will be very hard to beat , i don't against who it is.
I'm gonna take a cue from GrandTheftRondo and not resort to back and forth with you. You're clearly delusional and will twist anything to support said delusion.
Arguing with irrational people is a fruitless effort.
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Beyond hysterical. The Celtics are a better team without a point guard who supposedly was in the top 20 for league MVP. Add to that that they do not even have another point guard on the roster and I would say start putting their name on the championship trophy now. ::)
How about becoming hysterical bc with a top considered pg, we go on embarrassing losing streaks??
How about without him, we play better defense, share the ball more on offense and are 2-0 now against two of best teams in the league?
Funny how you're neglecting losses to Golden State and Milwaukee this season without Rondo.
We didn't even have Bradley and Lee was still trying to get comfortable in the lineup.
Listen we beat probably the best team in the league tonight. We also beat a really tough new york knicks team, who got their revenge on us a few games ago. We will be very hard to beat , i don't against who it is.
I'm gonna take a cue from GrandTheftRondo and not resort to back and forth with you. You're clearly delusional and will twist anything to support said delusion.
Arguing with irrational people is a fruitless effort.
Right now, Delusional is the word of the day here. I am with you
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Beyond hysterical. The Celtics are a better team without a point guard who supposedly was in the top 20 for league MVP. Add to that that they do not even have another point guard on the roster and I would say start putting their name on the championship trophy now. ::)
How about becoming hysterical bc with a top considered pg, we go on embarrassing losing streaks??
How about without him, we play better defense, share the ball more on offense and are 2-0 now against two of best teams in the league?
Funny how you're neglecting losses to Golden State and Milwaukee this season without Rondo.
We didn't even have Bradley and Lee was still trying to get comfortable in the lineup.
Listen we beat probably the best team in the league tonight. We also beat a really tough new york knicks team, who got their revenge on us a few games ago. We will be very hard to beat , i don't care against who it is.
You're strongly mistaken if you think we're going to be a better team without Rondo, especially come playoff time (assuming we make the playoffs). Regular season games, even against playoff bound teams, don't mean jack.
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
I saw that and thought the same exact thing initially. Then I realized how emotionally devastating this injury must be for him so I'm going to chalk it up to that.
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Beyond hysterical. The Celtics are a better team without a point guard who supposedly was in the top 20 for league MVP. Add to that that they do not even have another point guard on the roster and I would say start putting their name on the championship trophy now. ::)
How about becoming hysterical bc with a top considered pg, we go on embarrassing losing streaks??
How about without him, we play better defense, share the ball more on offense and are 2-0 now against two of best teams in the league?
Funny how you're neglecting losses to Golden State and Milwaukee this season without Rondo.
We didn't even have Bradley and Lee was still trying to get comfortable in the lineup.
Listen we beat probably the best team in the league tonight. We also beat a really tough new york knicks team, who got their revenge on us a few games ago. We will be very hard to beat , i don't against who it is.
I'm gonna take a cue from GrandTheftRondo and not resort to back and forth with you. You're clearly delusional and will twist anything to support said delusion.
Arguing with irrational people is a fruitless effort.
i'll take your advice and not argue with you. I've made rebuttals to all that you have said, especially the silly statement that we lost to GS and bucks without Rondo when lee clearly was not comfortable and we didn't have Bradley.
Rondo supporters say we will be ruined now without him. When with him we been playing ruined basketball. I have proof also on this. Rewatch the knicks game without rondo and with rondo and see which version of the team is better
I don't live from the past glory. You have to execute in the present
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
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Honestly not sure if you're being serious right now.
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I think it was Paul who said it last year: Without Rondo we're a playoff team but with Rondo we're contenders. In the playoffs we'll need Rondo, you can count on that.
Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
Wow. Really? No words.
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God bless Rondo, wish hIm the best.
The C,s have sucked it up before and played proud
Maybe the team will have a wake up call by the shock effect of this news
I don,t think a banner is likely but I,d be content with winning some games and seeing KG and Pierce play out the season
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
I saw that and thought the same exact thing initially. Then I realized how emotionally devastating this injury must be for him so I'm going to chalk it up to that.
Also, he's not the most jubilant of people under the best circumstances.
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Just saw this picture...[dang]. This guy has so much passion even if he doesn't show it all the time. Can only pray that he comes back as good as before (or better)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ptrnd3.jpg)
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Rondo just suffered a bad injury and had to tell the tea,. I wouldn't expect him to be pumped, this isn't a playoff game.
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And I'm really bummed out now.
Both for Rondo and possibly moving KG/Paul.
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And I'm really bummed out now.
Both for Rondo and possibly moving KG/Paul.
I don't think Ainge trades Paul until he gets consent from KG for a trade for himself, and I don't think KG will allow himself to be traded... he has a no-trade clause right?
So, I wouldn't worry too much about it at the moment.
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And I'm really bummed out now.
Both for Rondo and possibly moving KG/Paul.
I don't think Ainge trades Paul until he gets consent from KG for a trade for himself, and I don't think KG will allow himself to be traded... he has a no-trade clause right?
So, I wouldn't worry too much about it at the moment.
he has to ask them.
He has to make calls and see what. Is offered.
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And I'm really bummed out now.
Both for Rondo and possibly moving KG/Paul.
I don't think Danny Ainge is going to be cut-throat enough to dump KG and Pierce so quickly after Rondo's injury (only three weeks to trade deadline) ... and Danny is one of the most cut-throat GMs in the league.
I think the chances of Pierce and KG being moved are miniscule.
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
I saw that and thought the same exact thing initially. Then I realized how emotionally devastating this injury must be for him so I'm going to chalk it up to that.
Man the guy is going to start in his first all-star game this year, and blows out his knee and then you question his facial expression thinking he isn't about the team??? C'mon. The guy just got the news he is out for the year, is about to embark on 9-12 months of tough rehab. Glad you can discern he isn't all about team from his disappointment. what a joke.
RR is the best player on our team. Seems like everyone forgets the heart and courage that he plays with. People here have such a short memory. Cut the guy some slack. If he wasn't about 'team' he wouldn't have shown up to be with his team mates and coach.
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
I saw that and thought the same exact thing initially. Then I realized how emotionally devastating this injury must be for him so I'm going to chalk it up to that.
Man the guy is going to start in his first all-star game this year, and blows out his knee and then you question his facial expression thinking he isn't about the team??? C'mon. The guy just got the news he is out for the year, is about to embark on 9-12 months of tough rehab. Glad you can discern he isn't all about team from his disappointment. what a joke.
RR is the best player on our team. Seems like everyone forgets the heart and courage that he plays with. People here have such a short memory. Cut the guy some slack. If he wasn't about 'team' he wouldn't have shown up to be with his team mates and coach.
Rondo is not the best player on our team. KG who is like 15 years older, is our best player. Without rondo we still beat the heat, without kg, might as well pack our bags.
I been a big fan of Rondo ever since he got drafted. But ever since the tail end of last year i been disappointed with his play and attitude. Having a fallout with your own teammate is also immature and selfish.
The worse thing for me has been, watching him on defense and letting the team down. Instead of focusing on staying in front of his man, he constantly tries to cheat to steal or try to grab rebounds to pad his stats. Then his man beats him for a easy layup or a pass to a wide open man for a three point shot. I've seen it too many plays, that i started to become mad. I could prob blame doc for not fixing this, but i don't think he wants to deal with Rondo anymore either.
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Not sure if this has been addressed on the thread, but does anyone know when the injury actually happened?
I was at the game and at the very end Rondo drilled a 3 and then walked off the court fine.
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see what the Raptors will take for Lowry. Build up his trade value and move him or Rondo when Rondo's ready.
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Not sure if this has been addressed on the thread, but does anyone know when the injury actually happened?
I was at the game and at the very end Rondo drilled a 3 and then walked off the court fine.
via Celticshub, two possible plays where the injury happened:
http://celticshub.com/2013/01/27/video-the-play-rajon-rondo-may-have-torn-his-acl-on/
2:33 in 2OT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRu5Dx-7cCI&feature=player_embedded
or
2:12 in the 4th:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FfWEI4yVFmY
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
I saw that and thought the same exact thing initially. Then I realized how emotionally devastating this injury must be for him so I'm going to chalk it up to that.
Man the guy is going to start in his first all-star game this year, and blows out his knee and then you question his facial expression thinking he isn't about the team??? C'mon. The guy just got the news he is out for the year, is about to embark on 9-12 months of tough rehab. Glad you can discern he isn't all about team from his disappointment. what a joke.
RR is the best player on our team. Seems like everyone forgets the heart and courage that he plays with. People here have such a short memory. Cut the guy some slack. If he wasn't about 'team' he wouldn't have shown up to be with his team mates and coach.
Rondo is not the best player on our team. KG who is like 15 years older, is our best player. Without rondo we still beat the heat, without kg, might as well pack our bags.
I been a big fan of Rondo ever since he got drafted. But ever since the tail end of last year i been disappointed with his play and attitude. Having a fallout with your own teammate is also immature and selfish.
The worse thing for me has been, watching him on defense and letting the team down. Instead of focusing on staying in front of his man, he constantly tries to cheat to steal or try to grab rebounds to pad his stats. Then his man beats him for a easy layup or a pass to a wide open man for a three point shot. I've seen it too many plays, that i started to become mad. I could prob blame doc for not fixing this, but i don't think he wants to deal with Rondo anymore either.
You may not like Rondo, but I completely disagree with you that he isn't the best player on the team. KG in his prime, yes better than Rondo. 37 year old KG playing 20-25 min a game not better than Rondo. KG's heart/guts/passion probably better bigger than Rondo's but not much.
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
I saw that and thought the same exact thing initially. Then I realized how emotionally devastating this injury must be for him so I'm going to chalk it up to that.
Man the guy is going to start in his first all-star game this year, and blows out his knee and then you question his facial expression thinking he isn't about the team??? C'mon. The guy just got the news he is out for the year, is about to embark on 9-12 months of tough rehab. Glad you can discern he isn't all about team from his disappointment. what a joke.
RR is the best player on our team. Seems like everyone forgets the heart and courage that he plays with. People here have such a short memory. Cut the guy some slack. If he wasn't about 'team' he wouldn't have shown up to be with his team mates and coach.
Rondo is not the best player on our team. KG who is like 15 years older, is our best player. Without rondo we still beat the heat, without kg, might as well pack our bags.
I been a big fan of Rondo ever since he got drafted. But ever since the tail end of last year i been disappointed with his play and attitude. Having a fallout with your own teammate is also immature and selfish.
The worse thing for me has been, watching him on defense and letting the team down. Instead of focusing on staying in front of his man, he constantly tries to cheat to steal or try to grab rebounds to pad his stats. Then his man beats him for a easy layup or a pass to a wide open man for a three point shot. I've seen it too many plays, that i started to become mad. I could prob blame doc for not fixing this, but i don't think he wants to deal with Rondo anymore either.
You may not like Rondo, but I completely disagree with you that he isn't the best player on the team. KG in his prime, yes better than Rondo. 37 year old KG playing 20-25 min a game not better than Rondo. KG's heart/guts/passion probably better bigger than Rondo's but not much.
I'm not going to get into who's better or not, but I'll say that as our roster is constructed, KG is vastly more important than Rondo, and it really isn't even close.
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
I saw that and thought the same exact thing initially. Then I realized how emotionally devastating this injury must be for him so I'm going to chalk it up to that.
Man the guy is going to start in his first all-star game this year, and blows out his knee and then you question his facial expression thinking he isn't about the team??? C'mon. The guy just got the news he is out for the year, is about to embark on 9-12 months of tough rehab. Glad you can discern he isn't all about team from his disappointment. what a joke.
RR is the best player on our team. Seems like everyone forgets the heart and courage that he plays with. People here have such a short memory. Cut the guy some slack. If he wasn't about 'team' he wouldn't have shown up to be with his team mates and coach.
Rondo is not the best player on our team. KG who is like 15 years older, is our best player. Without rondo we still beat the heat, without kg, might as well pack our bags.
I been a big fan of Rondo ever since he got drafted. But ever since the tail end of last year i been disappointed with his play and attitude. Having a fallout with your own teammate is also immature and selfish.
The worse thing for me has been, watching him on defense and letting the team down. Instead of focusing on staying in front of his man, he constantly tries to cheat to steal or try to grab rebounds to pad his stats. Then his man beats him for a easy layup or a pass to a wide open man for a three point shot. I've seen it too many plays, that i started to become mad. I could prob blame doc for not fixing this, but i don't think he wants to deal with Rondo anymore either.
You may not like Rondo, but I completely disagree with you that he isn't the best player on the team. KG in his prime, yes better than Rondo. 37 year old KG playing 20-25 min a game not better than Rondo. KG's heart/guts/passion probably better bigger than Rondo's but not much.
I'm not going to get into who's better or not, but I'll say that as our roster is constructed, KG is vastly more important than Rondo, and it really isn't even close.
Well the question wasn't who was more important, the question was who was the best player. Of course KG is more important because we have NO other 1/2 way decent defensive big. That gaping hole in our roster doesn't make our 26 year old superstar point guard a worse player than KG. It just means our D falls apart when KG is out because of our lack of another decent big.
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At least Rondo has Perk to turn to now. He should follow Perk's attitude towards rehab and work his butt off, and hope that he doesnt lose so much from this injury. Hopefully, this turns him to a better player.
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I hope he dives all in for his rehab and comes back with a big chip on his shoulder. I think getting info on other people's journey through rehab will help. I want to know more info on how bad the tear was, and we probably won't hear that until after he competes the surgery I guess. I really feel bad for the guy. Having his best year as a pro, and starting in the all-star game and then the blown out knee.
just sucks.
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Just saw this picture...[dang]. This guy has so much passion even if he doesn't show it all the time. Can only pray that he comes back as good as before (or better)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ptrnd3.jpg)
Ugh.
At the very least, we know hes gonna attack his rehab full force.
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I hope he dives all in for his rehab and comes back with a big chip on his shoulder. I think getting info on other people's journey through rehab will help. I want to know more info on how bad the tear was, and we probably won't hear that until after he competes the surgery I guess. I really feel bad for the guy. Having his best year as a pro, and starting in the all-star game and then the blown out knee.
just sucks.
Can i ask you something. Is this what you care about the most? I really hope Rondo doesn't care about these things first.
Statistically might be his best year and he gets his first all star game starting nod, but the team is playing 500 basketball and barely hanging on for a playoffs spot.
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I hope he dives all in for his rehab and comes back with a big chip on his shoulder. I think getting info on other people's journey through rehab will help. I want to know more info on how bad the tear was, and we probably won't hear that until after he competes the surgery I guess. I really feel bad for the guy. Having his best year as a pro, and starting in the all-star game and then the blown out knee.
just sucks.
Can i ask you something. Is this what you care about the most? I really hope Rondo doesn't care about these things first.
Statistically might be his best year and he gets his first all star game starting nod, but the team is playing 500 basketball and barely hanging on for a playoffs spot.
Can't you take all that negativity to another thread? I'm pretty sure there's a "bash Rondo" thread around here somewhere that probably more suited for you... it's like you're trying to get arguments started.
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Michael Dyer @Mike_Dyer13
Rondo played about 12:30 of basketball on a torn ACL, and put up 2 points, 3 boards and 2 assists. Kind've absurd.
Rondo, you never cease to amaze me.
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I hope he dives all in for his rehab and comes back with a big chip on his shoulder. I think getting info on other people's journey through rehab will help. I want to know more info on how bad the tear was, and we probably won't hear that until after he competes the surgery I guess. I really feel bad for the guy. Having his best year as a pro, and starting in the all-star game and then the blown out knee.
just sucks.
Can i ask you something. Is this what you care about the most? I really hope Rondo doesn't care about these things first.
Statistically might be his best year and he gets his first all star game starting nod, but the team is playing 500 basketball and barely hanging on for a playoffs spot.
or course that is not all I care about. I was only making a point that Rajon had improved and was being acknowledged by the fans as being a great player. how is that a bad thing? Yeah are team has been really up and down this year. but Rondo's play has been pretty great most of the season.
So can I ask YOU something, why is it a bad thing to have two celtics starting in the all star game? one word, relax.
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Michael Dyer @Mike_Dyer13
Rondo played about 12:30 of basketball on a torn ACL, and put up 2 points, 3 boards and 2 assists. Kind've absurd.
Rondo, you never cease to amaze me.
After watching him play through a dislocated elbow, nothing surprises me anymore.
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Michael Dyer @Mike_Dyer13
Rondo played about 12:30 of basketball on a torn ACL, and put up 2 points, 3 boards and 2 assists. Kind've absurd.
Rondo, you never cease to amaze me.
After watching him play through a dislocated elbow, nothing surprises me anymore.
Me neither. I was actually reading JM's article on espn about Rajon's injury and one of the people commenting on the article called him "one tough sob" I think that is a fair statment. haha I am just glad he is on our team.
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I hope he dives all in for his rehab and comes back with a big chip on his shoulder. I think getting info on other people's journey through rehab will help. I want to know more info on how bad the tear was, and we probably won't hear that until after he competes the surgery I guess. I really feel bad for the guy. Having his best year as a pro, and starting in the all-star game and then the blown out knee.
just sucks.
Can i ask you something. Is this what you care about the most? I really hope Rondo doesn't care about these things first.
Statistically might be his best year and he gets his first all star game starting nod, but the team is playing 500 basketball and barely hanging on for a playoffs spot.
or course that is not all I care about. I was only making a point that Rajon had improved and was being acknowledged by the fans as being a great player. how is that a bad thing? Yeah are team has been really up and down this year. but Rondo's play has been pretty great most of the season.
So can I ask YOU something, why is it a bad thing to have two celtics starting in the all star game? one word, relax.
I'm glad ur relaxed and proud of rondo. I'm not relaxed, bc the loses piling up was nothing to relax about. I couldn't care less if he didnt make the all star game or was having worse stats year as long as he contributed to our teams success.
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
I saw that and thought the same exact thing initially. Then I realized how emotionally devastating this injury must be for him so I'm going to chalk it up to that.
Man the guy is going to start in his first all-star game this year, and blows out his knee and then you question his facial expression thinking he isn't about the team??? C'mon. The guy just got the news he is out for the year, is about to embark on 9-12 months of tough rehab. Glad you can discern he isn't all about team from his disappointment. what a joke.
RR is the best player on our team. Seems like everyone forgets the heart and courage that he plays with. People here have such a short memory. Cut the guy some slack. If he wasn't about 'team' he wouldn't have shown up to be with his team mates and coach.
It was an initial reaction dude. It is very strange on the surface to see a guy have such a morbid expression on his face after such a huge win. After I thought about it, I came to the realization that I mentioned which is the same opinion that you have. I don't see what's such a "joke" here.
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
I saw that and thought the same exact thing initially. Then I realized how emotionally devastating this injury must be for him so I'm going to chalk it up to that.
Man the guy is going to start in his first all-star game this year, and blows out his knee and then you question his facial expression thinking he isn't about the team??? C'mon. The guy just got the news he is out for the year, is about to embark on 9-12 months of tough rehab. Glad you can discern he isn't all about team from his disappointment. what a joke.
RR is the best player on our team. Seems like everyone forgets the heart and courage that he plays with. People here have such a short memory. Cut the guy some slack. If he wasn't about 'team' he wouldn't have shown up to be with his team mates and coach.
It was an initial reaction dude. It is very strange on the surface to see a guy have such a morbid expression on his face after such a huge win. After I thought about it, I came to the realization that I mentioned which is the same opinion that you have. I don't see what's such a "joke" here.
Hi action -
My comments about it being a joke, weren't directed to you, it was for triboy's initial post. Sorry that wasn't clear.
cheers
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I hope he dives all in for his rehab and comes back with a big chip on his shoulder. I think getting info on other people's journey through rehab will help. I want to know more info on how bad the tear was, and we probably won't hear that until after he competes the surgery I guess. I really feel bad for the guy. Having his best year as a pro, and starting in the all-star game and then the blown out knee.
just sucks.
Can i ask you something. Is this what you care about the most? I really hope Rondo doesn't care about these things first.
Statistically might be his best year and he gets his first all star game starting nod, but the team is playing 500 basketball and barely hanging on for a playoffs spot.
or course that is not all I care about. I was only making a point that Rajon had improved and was being acknowledged by the fans as being a great player. how is that a bad thing? Yeah are team has been really up and down this year. but Rondo's play has been pretty great most of the season.
So can I ask YOU something, why is it a bad thing to have two celtics starting in the all star game? one word, relax.
I'm glad ur relaxed and proud of rondo. I'm not relaxed, bc the loses piling up was nothing to relax about. I couldn't care less if he didnt make the all star game or was having worse stats year as long as he contributed to our teams success.
wow, i don't really care if you think I am relaxed or not. I thought your response was pretty much trying to pick a fight. glad that you can care less if we have all stars or not, you are entitled to your opinion. as am I.
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
I saw that and thought the same exact thing initially. Then I realized how emotionally devastating this injury must be for him so I'm going to chalk it up to that.
Man the guy is going to start in his first all-star game this year, and blows out his knee and then you question his facial expression thinking he isn't about the team??? C'mon. The guy just got the news he is out for the year, is about to embark on 9-12 months of tough rehab. Glad you can discern he isn't all about team from his disappointment. what a joke.
RR is the best player on our team. Seems like everyone forgets the heart and courage that he plays with. People here have such a short memory. Cut the guy some slack. If he wasn't about 'team' he wouldn't have shown up to be with his team mates and coach.
It was an initial reaction dude. It is very strange on the surface to see a guy have such a morbid expression on his face after such a huge win. After I thought about it, I came to the realization that I mentioned which is the same opinion that you have. I don't see what's such a "joke" here.
I had that same morbid expression at the end of the game as well and didn't celebrate the win at all... my thoughts were like "man, that team showed tonight that they had the tools to contend when they give their 100% and now they won't get their last chance because of that injury"... what a shame... I'm pretty Rondo was thinking something like that and he was absolutely devastated he won't have the chance to help this team contend for the title. He might be thinking that he has already played the last game with Kevin and Paul... this must have been so emotional for him, I cannot describe it!
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I hope he dives all in for his rehab and comes back with a big chip on his shoulder. I think getting info on other people's journey through rehab will help. I want to know more info on how bad the tear was, and we probably won't hear that until after he competes the surgery I guess. I really feel bad for the guy. Having his best year as a pro, and starting in the all-star game and then the blown out knee.
just sucks.
Can i ask you something. Is this what you care about the most? I really hope Rondo doesn't care about these things first.
Statistically might be his best year and he gets his first all star game starting nod, but the team is playing 500 basketball and barely hanging on for a playoffs spot.
or course that is not all I care about. I was only making a point that Rajon had improved and was being acknowledged by the fans as being a great player. how is that a bad thing? Yeah are team has been really up and down this year. but Rondo's play has been pretty great most of the season.
So can I ask YOU something, why is it a bad thing to have two celtics starting in the all star game? one word, relax.
I'm glad ur relaxed and proud of rondo. I'm not relaxed, bc the loses piling up was nothing to relax about. I couldn't care less if he didnt make the all star game or was having worse stats year as long as he contributed to our teams success.
wow, i don't really care if you think I am relaxed or not. I thought your response was pretty much trying to pick a fight. glad that you can care less if we have all stars or not, you are entitled to your opinion. as am I.
you are entitled to your opinion. This is why this forum is great. If the celts do worse without Rondo , i'll be the first one to admit it.
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Also did anyone watch Rondo's face after we won the game?? I mean what is that expression exactly.
Didn't look very happy to me.
I question rondo if its 100 percent about the team sometimes.
Why would Rondo look overly happy right after hearing the extent of his injury. And questioning about whether the guy who played through a dislocated elbow to help his team in the playoffs is "100% about the team" is crazy.
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You know what's weird? It hasn't really sunk in yet. I thought Id be in a much worse mood than I am in right now, but I'm not.
Maybe the win has something to do with it, or the fact that we weren't contenders before Rondo's injury.
When KG and Perk went down, I flipped out. I haven't really flipped out about Rondo, other than sighing and going, "There's the season." It's strange.
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One of the first games I ever watched was Rondo's dislocated elbow game. That was why I became a Celtic fan for life.