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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: ssspence on January 25, 2013, 08:28:07 PM
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Could if be tonight? Or will he pull another "Ole" at halftime?
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The uptempo game is Green's best friend. If the game stays fast, Green could get 20 this game.
He could also score nothing this half... who knows
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Tonight
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Looks like it could be tonight.
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Jeff Green: zero points after the 3rd quarter. Ole!
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When he starts.
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When doc gives him consistent first AND second half minutes. He played great in the first half...so.... Lets hardly give him minutes and not run any plays for him in the second half!! Sounds great doc!
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When doc gives him consistent first AND second half minutes. He played great in the first half...so.... Lets hardly give him minutes and not run any plays for him in the second half!! Sounds great doc!
You know, my first reaction was "he didn't get many minutes in the second half", as well.
However, I think we were fooled because Green was pretty invisible out there. He played a 7:10 stretch in the third quarter, another 7:01 in the fourth, and 3:19 in overtime.
In those 17.5 minutes, he produced four points on 1-for-3 shooting. I'm not sure it's fair to blame Doc for that.
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When doc gives him consistent first AND second half minutes. He played great in the first half...so.... Lets hardly give him minutes and not run any plays for him in the second half!! Sounds great doc!
You know, my first reaction was "he didn't get many minutes in the second half", as well.
However, I think we were fooled because Green was pretty invisible out there. He played a 7:10 stretch in the third quarter, another 7:01 in the fourth, and 3:19 in overtime.
In those 17.5 minutes, he produced four points on 1-for-3 shooting. I'm not sure it's fair to blame Doc for that.
Haha its funny because i wrote that off my first reaction...Thought about it...And was like well wait, wasn't he in our lineup most of the second half?
So, I'm not sure its fair either but they could have certainly ran more plays for him when he was having a good game and Pierce was not.
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When doc gives him consistent first AND second half minutes. He played great in the first half...so.... Lets hardly give him minutes and not run any plays for him in the second half!! Sounds great doc!
You know, my first reaction was "he didn't get many minutes in the second half", as well.
However, I think we were fooled because Green was pretty invisible out there. He played a 7:10 stretch in the third quarter, another 7:01 in the fourth, and 3:19 in overtime.
In those 17.5 minutes, he produced four points on 1-for-3 shooting. I'm not sure it's fair to blame Doc for that.
Haha its funny because i wrote that off my first reaction...Thought about it...And was like well wait, wasn't he in our lineup most of the second half?
So, I'm not sure its fair either but they could have certainly ran more plays for him when he was having a good game and Pierce was not.
This "running more plays" thing certainly has some effect, but I think it's nowhere near the impact people make it out to be. "Not running plays" for someone simply cannot turn an All-Star into a 9th man, which is what many are claiming is happening. Maybe it could in the very specific circumstance of a 1 dimensional catch-and-shoot off of screens type of player in that if you never run that play that player may not show up. But Green is not that kind of player. Even if plays aren't being run for him, he needs to grab rebounds, etc.
Also, I just don't believe we're not running plays for him. Everyone: players, Doc, etc. all are saying they want Green to be more aggressive. Simply, he is not running plays for himself. He's not grabbing boars for putbacks. He's not making cuts off the ball to get open. When he touches the ball, he isn't making plays happen, even though EVERYONE KEEPS SAYING THEY WANT HIM TO.
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Keep reading that Green was white hot last night and see tons of complaints about minutes. He played 30 minutes. He had 13 points in th first half, and as expected, disappeared in the second half and OT, with 4 points in 17 minutes. He played well and should have gotten more minutes, but his inconsistency continues.
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I'd still like to see them put Green in the starting lineup and actually run some plays for him so we can find out exactly what we're stuck with for 3 and a half more seasons at 9 mill a year. What's the alternative? Continue to suck with Pierce whose legs are clearly gone proving nightly that his days as an all star caliber player (and maybe an NBA starter) are done?
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I just don't like how he plays. I mean he's good when he is on, but it's just not sustainable. If he's scorching hot he'll score 15 its. If he isn't he disappears for games at a time. He looks like he doesn't care. I mean I know it's just body language, but we kill other athletes for it, so....
I really pull for this guy but I'm just not seeing it.
He also doesn't have any touch. He's just a big athlete who 'should be' good.
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so in the 17 minutes he played in second half and overtime he had 3 shots
i'll spread the blame around on that, 3 shots the fault is green's, rondo's and doc's
green is a matchup problem for most teams why aren't we putting him on the block against opposing sf and running him on the break? he got easy baskets last night when he was filling lanes
to add to the problem, paul 4-13 with subpar defense and turnovers
i think unless green is still slowly being given more minutes due to heart he should be starting and give paul a rest
pierce hasn't looked good in awhile and he puts in 40 minutes last night
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Preseason? :P
The last time Jeff Green scored 20 points in the regular season it took him 47 minutes against the Washington Wizards.
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YOU GUYS COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHNG JEFF GREEN!!
and it's BEYOND frustrating
The guy get's 17 and 6...after most said they want him to be SOLID
and you complain because he didn't get 20
WOW
Doc is something else. Jeff Green got maybe 2 touches. He botched 2 plays...He went AGGRESSIVELY to the hoop and he did not get a foul called. Happens right? Another play, he shot a 3 and missed (though he made 50% of his 3s)
Pretty much after that, he got sat down.
So we let PP shoot us out the game instead. When AB, Lee, Jet and Jeff were obviously more capable of making shots. Doc just didn't go with him and he played decoy. Really stayed in a corner so Pierce and KG isos could work.
I wish someone would tell me I'm lying.
OH!
But it's also cool for PP to score 19 first half and only 3 points the second. So theres that, too.
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It's Doc's fault -- my new favorite.
The quest continues. Jeff's got 4 years to break the elusive 20 point mark. Go Jeff!
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I'm so glad the people who run this board are saved, cuz I'd curse up a storm. Really would.
lol...17/6 off 8 shots. 50% shooting. no playing time in 1st OT. no touches in 4th. comes in when lead is dwindled to help get it back to 10.
waaahhhhhh...why can't Jeff score 20?
Had Doc left that second unit in longer, everyone of those guys woulda got 20+
Meanwhile beloved PP had 12 off 13 shots. WOO!
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Bump. The quest continues!
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Well, as long as we keep winning and he's contributing and helping the team, he's alright in my book.
He's been doing a lot of that, lately.
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He made some big plays for us tonight. I need him to rebound more - 4 rebounds in 42 minutes as a forward is awful - but he's doing everything else we need him to do right now.
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I'll take less than 20 points with rebounds, assists, good D and clutch shots
over
20+ empty points and nothing else.
And Tommy Points should account for the 3 points he didn't get to reach 20 today. So THERE.
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Well, as long as we keep winning and he's contributing and helping the team, he's alright in my book.
He's been doing a lot of that, lately.
Agreed. He's been a lot better -- even if his rebounding and passing are still terrible.
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Tomorrow against the Bobcats is my guess :)
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Clllllluuuuuuuutttttcccccchhhhhh
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Well, as long as we keep winning and he's contributing and helping the team, he's alright in my book.
He's been doing a lot of that, lately.
Agreed. He's been a lot better -- even if his rebounding and passing are still terrible.
But those 3 blocks (tied with KG tonight) and 2 steals off the bench were huge, too.
Even Michael Jordan wasn't perfect. :)
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He contributed to our block-party... only Celtic who can block threes and jumpers? Green. He's long.
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I like the 'D'. If he scores 8 but plays tough D, I am good.
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Jeff Green's per minute averages are about the same as they have always been. He's actually pretty darn consistent. He's the 3rd best player on this team now... and unfortunately he's playing backup to our 2nd best player. His last 5 games have been fantastic, though. SHooting incredibly well. He deserves a ton of credit. He's living up to all of my expectations.
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Jeff Green's per minute averages are about the same as they have always been. He's actually pretty darn consistent. He's the 3rd best player on this team now... and unfortunately he's playing backup to our 2nd best player. His last 5 games have been fantastic, though. SHooting incredibly well. He deserves a ton of credit. He's living up to all of my expectations.
I'm the ultimate Green fan, but I don't even think he's the third best. :\
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Jeff Green's per minute averages are about the same as they have always been. He's actually pretty darn consistent. He's the 3rd best player on this team now... and unfortunately he's playing backup to our 2nd best player. His last 5 games have been fantastic, though. SHooting incredibly well. He deserves a ton of credit. He's living up to all of my expectations.
He's actually averaging nearly 50% in 2013 from the field, above 50% in the last 9.
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Jeff Green's per minute averages are about the same as they have always been. He's actually pretty darn consistent. He's the 3rd best player on this team now... and unfortunately he's playing backup to our 2nd best player. His last 5 games have been fantastic, though. SHooting incredibly well. He deserves a ton of credit. He's living up to all of my expectations.
I agree that he is probably the third best player on the team right now (I would say him or Bradley). Do you know a site that has his per 36 numbers since Rondo went down? They have to be better than his career averages. I think if he continues this he will exceed them this year and in the future.
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Green is so unique......he looks and plays west coast , smooth and precise. Celtics to me have been traditionally ....tuff, rigid ,overachievers, Sully if the mold perfect, Green looks like a basketball god.
Nice to have the Cadillac. for once :D
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Jeff Green's per minute averages are about the same as they have always been. He's actually pretty darn consistent. He's the 3rd best player on this team now... and unfortunately he's playing backup to our 2nd best player. His last 5 games have been fantastic, though. SHooting incredibly well. He deserves a ton of credit. He's living up to all of my expectations.
I'm the ultimate Green fan, but I don't even think he's the third best. :\
statistically he is with Rondo and Sully out. He was our 4th best scorer with Rondo...
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I don't know if someone already said this, but I think the answer to the thread question is tonight. Pierce and Garnett really need rest, and we don't have a lot of depth behind either guy right now; that means 35 minutes for Green if he's up to it.
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He is going for 20+ tonight against the bobcats, I expect a lot of minutes for the young guy, love his play of late and his defense is improving every match!
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Jeff Green's per minute averages are about the same as they have always been. He's actually pretty darn consistent. He's the 3rd best player on this team now... and unfortunately he's playing backup to our 2nd best player. His last 5 games have been fantastic, though. SHooting incredibly well. He deserves a ton of credit. He's living up to all of my expectations.
I'm the ultimate Green fan, but I don't even think he's the third best. :\
statistically he is with Rondo and Sully out. He was our 4th best scorer with Rondo...
How could he not be?
1a Pierce
1b KG (take your pick here)
3. Green
4. Terry
5. Bradley
6. Lee
7. Barbosa
8. Bass
9. Wilcox
10. Collins
11. Melo
I would even be tempted to put Lee in front of Bradley currently...Bradley has been god awful on the offensive end a majority of the time.
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
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I don't care if he plays as great of D as he has been and has been scoring efficiently.
I'll take the 20 but it isn't required.
First we weren't happy when he wouldn't score 10. Then 20. Eh. Tiring.
As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Yeah and he didn't carry us with big plays on offense and defense at the end of the game. Gloss over that.
And yeah Faried didn't kill our whole team on the boards.
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Baby steps. Maybe when you morph into LeBron James, sspense will finally be happy.
But the salary will still be a "buzzkill", I guess.
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Baby steps. Maybe when you morph into LeBron James, sspense will finally be happy.
But the salary will still be a "buzzkill", I guess.
No one is expecting him to be LeBron James. How dare anyone have an opinion of Jeff Green that doesn't agree with yours. Overreact much?
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Baby steps. Maybe when you morph into LeBron James, sspense will finally be happy.
But the salary will still be a "buzzkill", I guess.
No one is expecting LeBron James. Overreact much?
I don't know what the OP is expecting. Apparently, regular 20 points off the bench, playing like a 250 lbs PF, maybe something else that will come up later.
Maybe you should direct the "overreact much" part to him.
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Baby steps. Maybe when you morph into LeBron James, sspense will finally be happy.
But the salary will still be a "buzzkill", I guess.
No one is expecting LeBron James. Overreact much?
I don't know what the OP is expecting. Apparently, regular 20 points off the bench, playing like a 250 lbs PF, maybe something else that will come up later.
Maybe you should direct the "overreact much" part to him.
Nope, directed at the right place.
He's probably hoping for a bit more consistency. Check out Green's game log. There are plenty of games there in the single digits. Plenty below 5 points even. Hoping for more consistency isn't asking for LeBron James.
And while I don't share the Faried criticism, Jeff Green is 235 lbs. Asking him to box out someone 15 pounds heavier once isn't all that unreasonable.
He isn't asking for LeBron. The NBA has a wide range of players at a wide range of skill levels and a wide range of consistency levels. There are other ways to make a point beyond sarcasm and extreme hyperbole, FYI. Once again, overreact much?
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Baby steps. Maybe when you morph into LeBron James, sspense will finally be happy.
But the salary will still be a "buzzkill", I guess.
No one is expecting LeBron James. Overreact much?
I don't know what the OP is expecting. Apparently, regular 20 points off the bench, playing like a 250 lbs PF, maybe something else that will come up later.
Maybe you should direct the "overreact much" part to him.
Nope, directed at the right place.
He's probably hoping for a bit more consistency. Check out Green's game log. There are plenty of games there in the single digits. Plenty below 5 points even. Hoping for more consistency isn't asking for LeBron James.
And while I don't share the Faried criticism, Jeff Green is 235 lbs. Asking him to box out someone 15 pounds heavier once isn't all that unreasonable.
He isn't asking for LeBron. The NBA has a wide range of players at a wide range of skill levels and a wide range of consistency levels. There are other ways to make a point beyond sarcasm and extreme hyperbole, FYI. Once again, overreact much?
Consistency. Green is averaging 16.4 points in his last 5 games along with making clutch shots and defensive stops. He's becoming the player people were hoping he would be, right around the time doctors predicted he would fully return to form after his heart surgery. I don't know how people can still be unhappy with Green right now. Faried does one thing well, which is rebounding. During the 4th quarter last night, Green was not the one who cost us the game, he was the only player who was scoring consistently. Pierce and to a lesser extent a tired KG cost us the game with the poor shots they put up down the stretch instead of trusting Bradley and Green to score.
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Nope, directed at the right place.
He's probably hoping for a bit more consistency. Check out Green's game log. There are plenty of games there in the single digits. Plenty below 5 points even. Hoping for more consistency isn't asking for LeBron James.
And while I don't share the Faried criticism, Jeff Green is 235 lbs. Asking him to box out someone 15 pounds heavier once isn't all that unreasonable.
He isn't asking for LeBron. Once again, overreact much?
Green was listed at 235 lbs before the surgery. There's no telling what he weighs right now (but he did report losing weight after the surgery, and expected this to help him play the SF spot better). Did he look like he had the same bulk as Farried (who is listed at 230 lbs, by the way). There's a reason why the team only considers Green a situational PF.
As for consistency: I advise you to find the most recent article on Jeff Green, where it's explained how recovery from his surgery can take as much as two years, and part of the recovery issues include occasional bouts of fatigue/exhaustion.
Also, if the OP really is concerned about consistency, then he should be singing Green praises for more than a month now. But somehow I don't think this is the issue here.
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Baby steps. Maybe when you morph into LeBron James, sspense will finally be happy.
But the salary will still be a "buzzkill", I guess.
No one is expecting LeBron James. Overreact much?
I don't know what the OP is expecting. Apparently, regular 20 points off the bench, playing like a 250 lbs PF, maybe something else that will come up later.
Maybe you should direct the "overreact much" part to him.
Nope, directed at the right place.
He's probably hoping for a bit more consistency. Check out Green's game log. There are plenty of games there in the single digits. Plenty below 5 points even. Hoping for more consistency isn't asking for LeBron James.
And while I don't share the Faried criticism, Jeff Green is 235 lbs. Asking him to box out someone 15 pounds heavier once isn't all that unreasonable.
He isn't asking for LeBron. The NBA has a wide range of players at a wide range of skill levels and a wide range of consistency levels. There are other ways to make a point beyond sarcasm and extreme hyperbole, FYI. Once again, overreact much?
Green made lots of great plays though. He scored, he played great defense, he hustled.
He didn't grab all those boards. Neither did KG. Neither did Pierce. Faried is one of the better rebounders in the league.
We are truly searching for angles to tear him down right now.
Sure I'd love if he was a better rebounder but yesterday he played a great game.
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Baby steps. Maybe when you morph into LeBron James, sspense will finally be happy.
But the salary will still be a "buzzkill", I guess.
No one is expecting LeBron James. Overreact much?
I don't know what the OP is expecting. Apparently, regular 20 points off the bench, playing like a 250 lbs PF, maybe something else that will come up later.
Maybe you should direct the "overreact much" part to him.
Nope, directed at the right place.
He's probably hoping for a bit more consistency. Check out Green's game log. There are plenty of games there in the single digits. Plenty below 5 points even. Hoping for more consistency isn't asking for LeBron James.
And while I don't share the Faried criticism, Jeff Green is 235 lbs. Asking him to box out someone 15 pounds heavier once isn't all that unreasonable.
He isn't asking for LeBron. The NBA has a wide range of players at a wide range of skill levels and a wide range of consistency levels. There are other ways to make a point beyond sarcasm and extreme hyperbole, FYI. Once again, overreact much?
Consistency. Green is averaging 16.4 points in his last 5 games along with making clutch shots and defensive stops. He's becoming the player people were hoping he would be, right around the time doctors predicted he would fully return to form after his heart surgery. I don't know how people can still be unhappy with Green right now. Faried does one thing well, which is rebounding. During the 4th quarter last night, Green was not the one who cost us the game, he was the only player who was scoring consistently. Pierce and to a lesser extent a tired KG cost us the game with the poor shots they put up down the stretch instead of trusting Bradley and Green to score.
I wouldn't label a 5 game stretch as "consistency". Let's hope it continues.
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Baby steps. Maybe when you morph into LeBron James, sspense will finally be happy.
But the salary will still be a "buzzkill", I guess.
No one is expecting LeBron James. Overreact much?
I don't know what the OP is expecting. Apparently, regular 20 points off the bench, playing like a 250 lbs PF, maybe something else that will come up later.
Maybe you should direct the "overreact much" part to him.
Nope, directed at the right place.
He's probably hoping for a bit more consistency. Check out Green's game log. There are plenty of games there in the single digits. Plenty below 5 points even. Hoping for more consistency isn't asking for LeBron James.
And while I don't share the Faried criticism, Jeff Green is 235 lbs. Asking him to box out someone 15 pounds heavier once isn't all that unreasonable.
He isn't asking for LeBron. The NBA has a wide range of players at a wide range of skill levels and a wide range of consistency levels. There are other ways to make a point beyond sarcasm and extreme hyperbole, FYI. Once again, overreact much?
Over the past twelve games Green has averaged 14 points a game shooting around 54ish% from the field. His lowest point total was 8 and last night was his high at 20. Hes also produced around 4 to 5 rebounds (give or take here and there) each game. I dont know how much more consistency you could ask from the guy at this point.
The expectation of him being LeBron James really isnt much of an overreaction here.
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Baby steps. Maybe when you morph into LeBron James, sspense will finally be happy.
But the salary will still be a "buzzkill", I guess.
No one is expecting LeBron James. Overreact much?
I don't know what the OP is expecting. Apparently, regular 20 points off the bench, playing like a 250 lbs PF, maybe something else that will come up later.
Maybe you should direct the "overreact much" part to him.
Nope, directed at the right place.
He's probably hoping for a bit more consistency. Check out Green's game log. There are plenty of games there in the single digits. Plenty below 5 points even. Hoping for more consistency isn't asking for LeBron James.
And while I don't share the Faried criticism, Jeff Green is 235 lbs. Asking him to box out someone 15 pounds heavier once isn't all that unreasonable.
He isn't asking for LeBron. The NBA has a wide range of players at a wide range of skill levels and a wide range of consistency levels. There are other ways to make a point beyond sarcasm and extreme hyperbole, FYI. Once again, overreact much?
Green made lots of great plays though.
He didn't grab all those boards. Neither did KG. Neither did Pierce. Faried is one of the better rebounders in the league.
We are truly searching for angles to tear him down right now.
Sure I'd love if he was a better rebounder but yesterday he played a great game.
I mentioned in my earlier post that I don't share the Faried critique but I get the OPs point. Faried is a tough player, no doubt.
Not searching for angles to tear him down. Just hoping for more consistent play. That's all. I'd be glad to see this 5 game stretch become an 82 game stretch.
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I wouldn't label a 5 game stretch as "consistency". Let's hope it continues.
Over the last month, Green averaged ~14 ppg in 30 minutes, while scoring in double figures in 10 of the 14 games.
I'm hoping this will become the norm for the remainder of the season.
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Baby steps. Maybe when you morph into LeBron James, sspense will finally be happy.
But the salary will still be a "buzzkill", I guess.
No one is expecting LeBron James. Overreact much?
I don't know what the OP is expecting. Apparently, regular 20 points off the bench, playing like a 250 lbs PF, maybe something else that will come up later.
Maybe you should direct the "overreact much" part to him.
Nope, directed at the right place.
He's probably hoping for a bit more consistency. Check out Green's game log. There are plenty of games there in the single digits. Plenty below 5 points even. Hoping for more consistency isn't asking for LeBron James.
And while I don't share the Faried criticism, Jeff Green is 235 lbs. Asking him to box out someone 15 pounds heavier once isn't all that unreasonable.
He isn't asking for LeBron. The NBA has a wide range of players at a wide range of skill levels and a wide range of consistency levels. There are other ways to make a point beyond sarcasm and extreme hyperbole, FYI. Once again, overreact much?
Over the past twelve games Green has averaged 14 points a game shooting around 54ish% from the field. His lowest point total was 8 and last night was his high at 20. Hes also produced around 4 to 5 rebounds (give or take here and there) each game. I dont know how much more consistency you could ask from the guy at this point.
The expectation of him being LeBron James really isnt much of an overreaction here.
Fantastic. Let's continue to see it. 5 game stretches and 10 game stretches are nice and all, but he has had some grim 5 game and 10 game stretches too. If it continues, that'd be great for all of us.
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I mentioned in my earlier post that I don't share the Faried critique but I get the OPs point. Faried is a tough player, no doubt.
Not searching for angles to tear him down. Just hoping for more consistent play. That's all. I'd be glad to see this 5 game stretch become an 82 game stretch.
'5 game stretch' is underselling him. He's been rock solid for nearly a month now. Here's to hoping he keeps it up.
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Fantastic. Let's continue to see it. 5 game stretches and 10 game stretches are nice and all, but he has had some grim 5 game and 10 game stretches too. If it continues, that'd be great for all of us.
Yes, and coincidentally the bulk of these came in November, his first month of NBA play after having a surgery and missing an entire year.
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Baby steps. Maybe when you morph into LeBron James, sspense will finally be happy.
But the salary will still be a "buzzkill", I guess.
No one is expecting LeBron James. Overreact much?
I don't know what the OP is expecting. Apparently, regular 20 points off the bench, playing like a 250 lbs PF, maybe something else that will come up later.
Maybe you should direct the "overreact much" part to him.
Nope, directed at the right place.
He's probably hoping for a bit more consistency. Check out Green's game log. There are plenty of games there in the single digits. Plenty below 5 points even. Hoping for more consistency isn't asking for LeBron James.
And while I don't share the Faried criticism, Jeff Green is 235 lbs. Asking him to box out someone 15 pounds heavier once isn't all that unreasonable.
He isn't asking for LeBron. The NBA has a wide range of players at a wide range of skill levels and a wide range of consistency levels. There are other ways to make a point beyond sarcasm and extreme hyperbole, FYI. Once again, overreact much?
Green made lots of great plays though.
He didn't grab all those boards. Neither did KG. Neither did Pierce. Faried is one of the better rebounders in the league.
We are truly searching for angles to tear him down right now.
Sure I'd love if he was a better rebounder but yesterday he played a great game.
I mentioned in my earlier post that I don't share the Faried critique but I get the OPs point. Faried is a tough player, no doubt.
Not searching for angles to tear him down. Just hoping for more consistent play. That's all. I'd be glad to see this 5 game stretch become an 82 game stretch.
As others have said, it's been a good month and he's getting better basically every game. The last 5 games have been even better, but it's been longer than that.
But yeah, I agree I want him to do well all season long.
It just gets a bit tiring to see "oh congrats on the 20 points Jeff" but gotta throw in a dig there.
Not directing that at you, but the OP.
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Fantastic. Let's continue to see it. 5 game stretches and 10 game stretches are nice and all, but he has had some grim 5 game and 10 game stretches too. If it continues, that'd be great for all of us.
Yes, and coincidentally the bulk of these came in November, his first month of NBA play after having a surgery and missing an entire year.
Do you truly think it was a coincidence or is that your Mensa level sarcasm in play again?
His stretch to begin January was pretty grim.
Once again, I hope his solid play continues. I'm not ready to induct him into the Hall of Fame off of a solid stretch though (how's that for kozlodoev level sarcasm and hyperbole?).
Let's keep watching and waiting. I'm rooting for him, seems like a good kid.
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As the OP of this thread, I want to be the first to congratulate Jeff Green for finally reaching the 20 point mark in NBA game this season. Good goin', Jeff!
And 20 right on the number. Too bad you demonstrated an allergic reaction to boxing out Faried in the 4th -- which basically cost us the game -- but hey, baby steps....
Baby steps. Maybe when you morph into LeBron James, sspense will finally be happy.
But the salary will still be a "buzzkill", I guess.
No one is expecting LeBron James. Overreact much?
I don't know what the OP is expecting. Apparently, regular 20 points off the bench, playing like a 250 lbs PF, maybe something else that will come up later.
Maybe you should direct the "overreact much" part to him.
Nope, directed at the right place.
He's probably hoping for a bit more consistency. Check out Green's game log. There are plenty of games there in the single digits. Plenty below 5 points even. Hoping for more consistency isn't asking for LeBron James.
And while I don't share the Faried criticism, Jeff Green is 235 lbs. Asking him to box out someone 15 pounds heavier once isn't all that unreasonable.
He isn't asking for LeBron. The NBA has a wide range of players at a wide range of skill levels and a wide range of consistency levels. There are other ways to make a point beyond sarcasm and extreme hyperbole, FYI. Once again, overreact much?
Green made lots of great plays though.
He didn't grab all those boards. Neither did KG. Neither did Pierce. Faried is one of the better rebounders in the league.
We are truly searching for angles to tear him down right now.
Sure I'd love if he was a better rebounder but yesterday he played a great game.
I mentioned in my earlier post that I don't share the Faried critique but I get the OPs point. Faried is a tough player, no doubt.
Not searching for angles to tear him down. Just hoping for more consistent play. That's all. I'd be glad to see this 5 game stretch become an 82 game stretch.
As others have said, it's been a good month and he's getting better basically every game. The last 5 games have been even better, but it's been longer than that.
But yeah, I agree I want him to do well all season long.
It just gets a bit tiring to see "oh congrats on the 20 points Jeff" but gotta throw in a dig there.
Not directing that at you, but the OP.
Understood, I see your point. TP.
I think some just see his physical tools / gifts and his versatility and ceiling as a player and just hope for more. He is very athletically gifted. I like his play recently and hope for it to become a permanent. I guess it's possible that it will.
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he gets 20 and you all want to slay him for not getting rebounds against the leagues 10th best rebounder in faried....RIGHT!
lol...no one will ever be pleased with this guy.
when Paul wasn't doing anything, JG goes and hits 2 threes back to back (I'm not counting that goaltend, so for me he still only has 17)
Plus I'm not sure what you all want for consistency.
hes actually been playing much better since January. hels obviously on the up trend.
what is consistency? if he ends february avging 16/5 then what?
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Fantastic. Let's continue to see it. 5 game stretches and 10 game stretches are nice and all, but he has had some grim 5 game and 10 game stretches too. If it continues, that'd be great for all of us.
Yes, and coincidentally the bulk of these came in November, his first month of NBA play after having a surgery and missing an entire year.
Do you truly think it was a coincidence or is that your Mensa level sarcasm in play again?
His stretch to begin January was pretty grim.
Once again, I hope his solid play continues. I'm not ready to induct him into the Hall of Fame off of a solid stretch though (how's that for kozlodoev level sarcasm and hyperbole?).
Let's keep watching and waiting. I'm rooting for him, seems like a good kid.
the mention of sarcasm here is completely ironic. lol
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Fantastic. Let's continue to see it. 5 game stretches and 10 game stretches are nice and all, but he has had some grim 5 game and 10 game stretches too. If it continues, that'd be great for all of us.
Yes, and coincidentally the bulk of these came in November, his first month of NBA play after having a surgery and missing an entire year.
Do you truly think it was a coincidence or is that your Mensa level sarcasm in play again?
His stretch to begin January was pretty grim.
Once again, I hope his solid play continues. I'm not ready to induct him into the Hall of Fame off of a solid stretch though (how's that for kozlodoev level sarcasm and hyperbole?).
Let's keep watching and waiting. I'm rooting for him, seems like a good kid.
Sorry, that may have come out snappy when it wasn't supposed to be (to be fair, it's not too hard in a thread like this).
But I've seen encouraging signs after a pretty poor first month, which makes me think that he may have needed some time to get his legs under him after missing an entire year (and reportedly still having post-op symptoms).
So hopefully the stretch of decent play continues as the norm rather than the exception.
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I'm really surprised that there's still so much sarcasm surrounding Jeff, and the dreaded contract. As the prior poster states, it is obvious Jeff is on the upswing.
Feb averages: 15 pts, .532 FG%, .471 3PT%, 4 RBs, 2 AST, 2 BLKS,1 STL
All the play of late, the upward trend, the youth & athleticism, ability to defend and the fact that he's flourishing with a larger role in the offense of late are all highly encouraging. What's not to be excited about?
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Haven't read through all the rips of my post, though I'd hope bloggers could take some of these topics and threads just a touch less seriously.
That being said, and joking aside -- Green's scoring and shooting percentage, as well as the intensity and consistency, have improved.It's terrific to see. My point about Faried would be my next hope for Green -- rebounding.
I'd like to change this thread title to "when will Jeff Green net 10 rebounds in a game" thread (can a mod help me with that?).
Green has no double doubles this season, and has yet to crack the 10 rebound mark. It borders on embarrassing to watch him jump up and down in the paint with his arms at his side instead of looking for his man and sealing him off.
Jeff Green should be able to rebound. If Rondo can get 10 every 2-3 games, so can Jeff.
I'm sure he reads the blog -- like all Celtics other than Garnett -- so I put it to you, Jeff... do it for pride, do it for money (those incentives in your contract), do it for the team... box out, baby!!
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Tonight, he's going to go off...knows he might be dealt. If he doesn't want to leave then he's going to go off.
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I've really like what I've seen from Green lately in terms of scoring, steals, blocks and overall hustle. However, it irks me that he doesn't rebound better. four rebounds in 30 minutes isn't enough, IMO. Last night he had two in 33.
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bumping this one. ;D
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Haven't read through all the rips of my post, though I'd hope bloggers could take some of these topics and threads just a touch less seriously.
That being said, and joking aside -- Green's scoring and shooting percentage, as well as the intensity and consistency, have improved.It's terrific to see. My point about Faried would be my next hope for Green -- rebounding.
I'd like to change this thread title to "when will Jeff Green net 10 rebounds in a game" thread (can a mod help me with that?).
Green has no double doubles this season, and has yet to crack the 10 rebound mark. It borders on embarrassing to watch him jump up and down in the paint with his arms at his side instead of looking for his man and sealing him off.
Jeff Green should be able to rebound. If Rondo can get 10 every 2-3 games, so can Jeff.
I'm sure he reads the blog -- like all Celtics other than Garnett -- so I put it to you, Jeff... do it for pride, do it for money (those incentives in your contract), do it for the team... box out, baby!!
A touch hypocritical.
You met one of my non-serious threads about shavlik with mild pomposity.
Rebounding is a skill that only some have. You don't go out there playing the best league in the world and just choose to grab 10 rebounds. You have to have a combination of the desire, body positioning, anticipation, and timing to pull it off. Rondo is brilliant at reading the game and noone boxes him out. Jeff green struggles with timing his jumps and choosing the right foot to jump off, does not have Rondo's gamesense, and has people boxing him out (especially when he plays the 4 position). It's pretty easy to figure out why Rondo can get higher rebound games than jeff. Saying someone should be able to get 10 rebounds because this ridiculously talented, lanky point guard can on occasion is a pretty weak criticism.
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this thread is so disgusting man.
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Jeff Green will score twenty most nights we bother to play up tempo. I bet he has an easier time once he gets comfortable with Rajon Rondo coming back next year.