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Title: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: WW1MR on January 24, 2013, 08:17:46 PM
Not advocating for or against, but curious to know who among the "trade Paul Pierce and promote JG" crowd (if there is such a thing) would do this trade:

BOSTON TRADES
Pierce
Terry
Barbosa
Collins
Rights to Brooklyn's 2014 2nd Rnd pick

BOSTON GETS
Asik
Korver
Lin
Houston's 2014 1st Rnd pick (unprotected)

ATLANTA TRADES
Smith
Korver

ATLANTA GETS
Pierce
Morris
Barbosa
Houston's 2015 1st Rnd pick
Brooklyn's 2014 2nd Rnd pick via Boston

HOUSTON TRADES
Asik
Morris
Lin
2014 and 2015 1st Rnd picks

HOUSTON GETS
Smith
Terry
Collins

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ah8vkba

We'd need depth at the 3 so after the deadline...
Celtics sign Donte Greene or best available off waiver wire

Rondo/Lin
Bradley/Korver/Lee
Green/Greene/?
Sullinger/Bass/Wilcox
Garnett/Asik/Melo

Only if Hawks convinced Smith won't resign
even then ATL still says no

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: Kane3387 on January 24, 2013, 08:23:41 PM
No. I would want an All-Star Caliber player in return for any of our big three.
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: Who on January 24, 2013, 08:25:27 PM
Asik for Pierce!?
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: jambr380 on January 24, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
Asik for Pierce!?

It's not nearly as ridiculous as it sounds as Asik is actually good, but I would much rather have Smith if we are dealing away Pierce...
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: Birdman on January 24, 2013, 08:45:36 PM
atlanta dont want Pierce
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: gpap on January 24, 2013, 08:55:32 PM
Why on earth would Houston do this?
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: Smitty77 on January 24, 2013, 09:16:07 PM
Houston does it to get RID of Lin and his awful contract!!
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: Donoghus on January 24, 2013, 09:19:34 PM
Houston's not doing that trade.
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: D.o.s. on January 24, 2013, 09:22:36 PM
Lin doesn't have an awful contract. He had an awful contract for the Knicks.

Morey's probably the most numbers-savvy GM in the league, so no way he gives up Lin, Morris and Asik (not to mention the draft picks) for Josh Smith and a 36 year old Terry.
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: WW1MR on January 25, 2013, 07:54:57 PM
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No. I would want an All-Star Caliber player in return for any of our big three.
I'm not talking about trading Rondo (or Garnett with his trade clause); I'm talking about trading 35 yo Paul Pierce, considering his play and production lately, for some producing players in positions of need for the Celtics (center, back up pg) AND a potential lottery pick in an allegedly stacked draft. The question is: can we realistically get more for PP and are we willing to settle for what he currently brings to the table?
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: WW1MR on January 25, 2013, 07:59:14 PM
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Why on earth would Houston do this?

Josh Smith
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: Sketch5 on January 25, 2013, 08:15:25 PM
Houston does it to get RID of Lin and his awful contract!!


Why would we want that Lins contract. Already have an iffy one with Green.

Its not a very good trade for us. If we are trading PP its for something that even he would say, "Yeah I do that to". Not for three roll players...
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: WW1MR on January 25, 2013, 08:29:28 PM
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Why would we want that Lins contract. Already have an iffy one with Green.
We give an iffy one in Terry. R U satisfied with the status quo? Willing to see the deadline come and go with no moves by Ainge? You have to give to get. Are you one who sees KG, Rondo, AB, Sully, Fab Melo as less expendable with an eye to the future of this franchise than Pierce.

I addressed this thread VERY specifically to the "trade PP" crowd. If you don't want to trade the Captain, then sentimentally, I'm with you.
I think Lin is poorly suited to a starters role, but could be more of a true backup point than Terry, Barbosa, AB etc.
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: Sketch5 on January 25, 2013, 08:40:19 PM
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Why would we want that Lins contract. Already have an iffy one with Green.
We give an iffy one in Terry. R U satisfied with the status quo? Willing to see the deadline come and go with no moves by Ainge? You have to give to get. Are you one who sees KG, Rondo, AB, Sully, Fab Melo as less expendable with an eye to the future of this franchise than Pierce.

I addressed this thread VERY specifically to the "trade PP" crowd. If you don't want to trade the Captain, then sentimentally, I'm with you.
I think Lin is poorly suited to a starters role, but could be more of a true backup point than Terry, Barbosa, AB etc.

No Im not satisfied with some of the players. But I would trade just to bring new players in.

 We would get an okay center, an okay PG and and okay SG, of for PP. Want to get rid of Terry, yeah trade him and Barbosa for Lin and that I could get behind. But PP for Asik and Kover...No thank you.

Its a bit of an insult to the Captain. At least when DA have traded Allen before it got pulled he was bringing in Mayo. 
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: Cman on January 25, 2013, 09:24:14 PM
Lin doesn't have an awful contract. He had an awful contract for the Knicks.

Morey's probably the most numbers-savvy GM in the league, so no way he gives up Lin, Morris and Asik (not to mention the draft picks) for Josh Smith and a 36 year old Terry.

No, Lins contract is awful. And as much as I respect Morey, he blundered on that one. I give the big NO to the OPs trade idea.
Title: Re: Would the "trade PP crowd" do this? HOU-ATL-BOS
Post by: WW1MR on January 25, 2013, 09:57:09 PM
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Asik for Pierce!?

Who are you watching this? The Hawk's 3rd n 4th quarter comeback against our C's?

You wouldn't give Pierce (34 will still hang in the rafters) for a 10 point 11 rebound true 7' center and Korver and a first in 2014???

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No, Lins contract is awful. And as much as I respect Morey, he blundered on that one. I give the big NO to the OPs trade idea.

Cman - Lin is in there to match salary. If Rockets didn't want to move Lin they wouldn't be in this trade. Pierce, Terry, Collins avg age is 35 and look at their play of late...
Young, dynamic, producing players in areas of need PLUS a first round draft pick without giving up our current young talent or our defensive-minded all-star pg and center? YOU would balk at Lin's contract and stay pat?
Or what would you get for PP... since that's what this thread's really about.


Oh.. and Hawks still wouldn't do it.