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Title: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: OttawaCeltic on January 24, 2013, 07:36:41 PM
 ??? He's averaging more pts and assists than Deng too...

Comments?
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Birdman on January 24, 2013, 07:37:34 PM
He can rest over the break
Title: Pierce passed over for All-Star game
Post by: Roy H. on January 24, 2013, 07:38:49 PM
Despite being the 14th leading scorer in the NBA, Pierce was passed over for the All-Star game.  In the end, I guess the powers that be decided that a below-.500 team didn't deserve three all-stars.

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East Reserves: Chris Bosh, Tyson Chandler, Joakim Noah, Paul George, Luol Deng, Jrue Holiday, Kyrie Irving

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2IwXZmSin

Piece is in the same class as George and Deng this year; the stats are all pretty close.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: lon3lytoaster on January 24, 2013, 07:39:13 PM
Meh. deng isn't an all star. But neither is PP this year.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Birdman on January 24, 2013, 07:39:32 PM
Plus the NBA really dont like the Celtics
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Kane3387 on January 24, 2013, 07:41:17 PM
Meh. deng isn't an all star. But neither is PP this year.

Pierce needs to rest those legs anyway. Shame josh smith got robbed again.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: albas89 on January 24, 2013, 07:42:09 PM
It's all on him... had he not played like a D-League player for the last 2 weeks, he would probably be in instead of Deng! There were also other players who got snubbed more than PP imo...

Good for him though, let him rest... and maybe some self-critisism about his recent performance might also be helpful!
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Donoghus on January 24, 2013, 07:42:27 PM
I have no qualms with Pierce getting the rest, to be quite honest.

He's made plenty of these games in the past.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: CelticHooligan3 on January 24, 2013, 07:43:28 PM
This could actually be a blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: lightspeed5 on January 24, 2013, 07:43:45 PM
paul george and deng are not all stars.
Title: Re: Pierce passed over for All-Star game
Post by: celtsfan84 on January 24, 2013, 07:44:17 PM
Despite being the 14th leading scorer in the NBA, Pierce was passed over for the All-Star game.  In the end, I guess the powers that be decided that a below-.500 team didn't deserve three all-stars.
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East Reserves: Chris Bosh, Tyson Chandler, Joakim Noah, Paul George, Luol Deng, Jrue Holiday, Kyrie Irving

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2IwXZmSin

Piece is in the same class as George and Deng this year; the stats are all pretty close.

I'd say this is the reason.  Coaches like to preach that individual accolades (like All-Star appearances) come from team performance to encourage team play.  Not that shocking that a sub .500 team in the 8 spot in the conference doesn't have 25% of the East's All-Stars.

Plus the NBA really dont like the Celtics

I'd say this isn't the reason.  Paul (and other Celtics) have made the All-Star game many times before.

This could actually be a blessing in disguise.

It certainly can't hurt.  Maybe a snub is extra motivation.  Maybe a little extra rest helps.  There really is now downside to this from a team standpoint.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Birdman on January 24, 2013, 07:45:38 PM
I never did like these All Star games in all sports
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Who on January 24, 2013, 07:46:34 PM
Deng deserves it over Pierce. I am happy Deng got the nod.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Lucky17 on January 24, 2013, 07:47:44 PM
Eh, Pierce might still get in as an injury replacement (Deng).
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: bdm860 on January 24, 2013, 07:47:54 PM
Is it just me, or did they announce the reserves really early this year?

Last year the reserves were announced on 2/9 (but lockout, so whatever).

But in 2011 the reserves were announced on 2/3 I think, with the starters announced on 1/28.

2010 it was something like 1/28 for reserves and 1/22 for starters.

There's still 3 1/2 weeks till the All-Star game, and most teams have like 10+ games during that stretch.

Just seems so early.


Why is it so early this year?
Title: Re: Pierce passed over for All-Star game
Post by: Who on January 24, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
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East Reserves: Chris Bosh, Tyson Chandler, Joakim Noah, Paul George, Luol Deng, Jrue Holiday, Kyrie Irving
I am disappointed Kyrie Irving got in. He doesn't deserve to be there with his team down near the bottom of the league.

Paul George is a question mark. Not sure about that one.

I am happy with the other selections.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: lightspeed5 on January 24, 2013, 07:49:05 PM
because they need a reason to snub pierce.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: JoT on January 24, 2013, 07:49:24 PM
1) this team is 20-21... they were not gonna let three players on a below .500 team go to the ASG.
2) He has been playing bad for the past week and that probably was part of why he isn't going.
3) He needs the rest and should take this break to get himself together for the next half of the season. This could possibly help him.

Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Smutzy#9 on January 24, 2013, 07:50:44 PM
Paul George definatly deserves to be one, that kid has played lights out this year and stepped up massively for indiana. Deng not quite sure about PP is probs more deserving as he is averaging better numbers in less minutes. But that being said will be good for paul to just rest the bosy and hopefully be healthy after the break to bring a playoff run into the picture.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Kane3387 on January 24, 2013, 07:51:22 PM
End of an era for the captain I believe.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Birdman on January 24, 2013, 07:52:54 PM
End of an era for the captain I believe.
yep
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: nickagneta on January 24, 2013, 07:53:22 PM
I never did like these All Star games in all sports
Bingo. Me too.

I actually find All-Star games and the contests leading up to them fairly dumb. I would ALWAYS rather have my team have no All-Stars and have the players that play for the teams I am a fan of to sit home, rest up, not risk unnecessary injury and play hard to win for their team and not for some All-Star team.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: CelticHooligan3 on January 24, 2013, 07:53:31 PM
End of an era for the captain I believe.



Sad but probably true
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: CelticG1 on January 24, 2013, 07:54:02 PM
Hey remember when KG got snubbed last year?

Let's up this lights a fire under pp's butt
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: celtsfan84 on January 24, 2013, 07:55:04 PM
because they need a reason to snub pierce.

Pierce has as many All-Star appearances as John Stockton, Jason Kidd, and David Robinson at this point.  He probably cares less about being "snubbed" than his fans do.  His legacy is secure.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Who on January 24, 2013, 07:55:39 PM
I feel like Paul George got in just because he has had a recent hot spell over the last 10 or so games. He has been a disaster for most of the year as the Pacers #1 option.

His defense and possession creation have been stellar.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Birdman on January 24, 2013, 07:55:49 PM
Hey remember when KG got snubbed last year?

Let's up this lights a fire under pp's butt
need more than this to light a fire
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: ejk3489 on January 24, 2013, 07:58:34 PM
Eh, Celtics don't deserve three All-Stars...Pierce could use the rest anyways.

Brook Lopez not making the team is pretty questionable though.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Birdman on January 24, 2013, 08:00:20 PM
where is the all star game at anyways
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: CelticHooligan3 on January 24, 2013, 08:00:56 PM
where is the all star game at anyways


Houston
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Smutzy#9 on January 24, 2013, 08:05:18 PM
Pierce: 18.9 pts 5.7 rebounds 3.9 ast 42% 36% 3pt

Deng: 17.4 6.5 3 44% 34% 3pt

George: 17.3 7.8 3.7 42% 38%


All 3 have a claim to the reserve role thats for sure. very similar stats across the board. I think just with the recent struggle of pierce he has been overlooked.

On another note, so glad that David Lee got the nod for All star team, guy has played stellar this year
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 24, 2013, 08:30:49 PM
no big deal.....care less ...rather have him resting up .
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: celticslove on January 24, 2013, 08:32:38 PM
i don't really care, he needs the weekend off more. plus he doesn't really belong there this year.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: syfy9 on January 24, 2013, 09:00:07 PM
Paul George, Luol Deng, and Josh Smith all plead a really good case as well.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Andrew Celtic Nation on January 24, 2013, 09:02:57 PM
Deng is not an all star but anyone like myself who has Paul George on their fantasy team and is forced to pay attention to his stats knows that he has been an absolute monster for the past few months, he is a no brainer. He is average 20 points, 10 rebounds, 4 assists and 2.5 steals per game in january.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: scaryjerry on January 24, 2013, 09:26:23 PM
Celtics dont deserve 3all stars and teams better than us deserved 1....thinking it's a factor.I would rather him not go..he's never that good in it anyways, just be another appearance for his resume
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: jambr380 on January 24, 2013, 09:31:34 PM
I don't know, but I think Smith, Lopez, and one of Jennings/Ellis [their stats are identical] all should have gotten some attention. They are all pretty solidified as playoff teams and have very solid stats. I would kick off Deng and probably Holiday...
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: Roy H. on January 24, 2013, 09:45:17 PM
I don't know, but I think Smith, Lopez, and one of Jennings/Ellis [their stats are identical] all should have gotten some attention. They are all pretty solidified as playoff teams and have very solid stats. I would kick off Deng and probably Holiday...

Why Jennings/Ellis over Holiday?  Is it just because of Milwaukee's record?

Otherwise, I don't think there's much of an argument.  Jrue is having a better year basically across the board.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: jambr380 on January 24, 2013, 10:00:46 PM
I don't know, but I think Smith, Lopez, and one of Jennings/Ellis [their stats are identical] all should have gotten some attention. They are all pretty solidified as playoff teams and have very solid stats. I would kick off Deng and probably Holiday...

Why Jennings/Ellis over Holiday?  Is it just because of Milwaukee's record?

Otherwise, I don't think there's much of an argument.  Jrue is having a better year basically across the board.

No-no, I didn't say I would definitely take one of them over Jrue [he probably still deserves the edge] - just that it seems that he was an obvious choice while on a losing team and his stats aren't that amazing. I get Kyrie - he's the 6th leading scorer in the NBA and is an up and coming star.

But, yes, I do take record into consideration and the Sixers are just not that good, while Milwaukee has been quite surprising this year.

Frankly, I would probably put Lopez on there above KG or Pierce...
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: KGs Knee on January 24, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
Paul Pierce does not deserve to be an All-Star, not with the way he has been playing lately.  Dude looks like a scrub.

I appreciate everything he has done as a Celtic over the years, and do not want him to be traded under any circumstance, but, good grief.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 24, 2013, 11:12:53 PM
Paul Pierce does not deserve to be an All-Star, not with the way he has been playing lately.  Dude looks like a scrub.

I appreciate everything he has done as a Celtic over the years, and do not want him to be traded under any circumstance, but, good grief.

I'm sorry but I don't think pierce or Garnett deserve all star nods this year.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: soap07 on January 24, 2013, 11:19:05 PM
Frankly, the bigger joke is the Nets not getting a single All Star while being what, a game back of the Knicks? Lopez should be in.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: scaryjerry on January 25, 2013, 08:39:41 AM
Frankly, the bigger joke is the Nets not getting a single All Star while being what, a game back of the Knicks? Lopez should be in.

that was up to the fans.coaches aren't going to vote someone from a team who got a coach fired
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 25, 2013, 09:11:34 AM
Frankly, the bigger joke is the Nets not getting a single All Star while being what, a game back of the Knicks? Lopez should be in.

that was up to the fans.coaches aren't going to vote someone from a team who got a coach fired

I really cant stand the Nets and Im glad the Nets didnt get an All Star. They really dont have any players deserving. Williams certainly hasnt had an All Star year. Joe Johnson started out terribly this season.

Even Lopez doesnt deserve a nod in my opinion. Chandler and Noah are both more deserving than Lopez is. Their games are more complete and they actually rebound the ball. Both players change their teams mindsets defensively.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: OttawaCeltic on January 25, 2013, 05:54:56 PM
bump
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: nickagneta on January 27, 2013, 11:40:34 AM
Not sure why this thread needs a bump. Pierce isn't an All-Star and really neither he nor Garnett really deserve to be one. I think that is becoming abundantly clear to anyone watching this team lately.

I actually wish Rondo and Garnett would each fake an injury just before the ASG and stay home and rest.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: BballTim on January 27, 2013, 11:57:22 AM
I don't know, but I think Smith, Lopez, and one of Jennings/Ellis [their stats are identical] all should have gotten some attention. They are all pretty solidified as playoff teams and have very solid stats. I would kick off Deng and probably Holiday...

Why Jennings/Ellis over Holiday?  Is it just because of Milwaukee's record?

Otherwise, I don't think there's much of an argument.  Jrue is having a better year basically across the board.

No-no, I didn't say I would definitely take one of them over Jrue [he probably still deserves the edge] - just that it seems that he was an obvious choice while on a losing team and his stats aren't that amazing. I get Kyrie - he's the 6th leading scorer in the NBA and is an up and coming star.

But, yes, I do take record into consideration and the Sixers are just not that good, while Milwaukee has been quite surprising this year.

Frankly, I would probably put Lopez on there above KG or Pierce...

  Without discussing individual players I think it should be the best players, not necessarily the players on the best teams. Having said that, I don't think all-star selections are overly meaningful and can't remember the last time I watched an ASG.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: soap07 on January 27, 2013, 12:12:36 PM
Not sure why this thread needs a bump. Pierce isn't an All-Star and really neither he nor Garnett really deserve to be one. I think that is becoming abundantly clear to anyone watching this team lately.

I actually wish Rondo and Garnett would each fake an injury just before the ASG and stay home and rest.

This times a million.

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  Without discussing individual players I think it should be the best players, not necessarily the players on the best teams. Having said that, I don't think all-star selections are overly meaningful and can't remember the last time I watched an ASG.


I will also buy this.


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I really cant stand the Nets and Im glad the Nets didnt get an All Star. They really dont have any players deserving. Williams certainly hasnt had an All Star year. Joe Johnson started out terribly this season.

Even Lopez doesnt deserve a nod in my opinion. Chandler and Noah are both more deserving than Lopez is. Their games are more complete and they actually rebound the ball. Both players change their teams mindsets defensively.

Will disagree with this strongly. Lopez has a 25.42 PER. That is ridiculous. His rebounding rate is 14.8 - not great....but fairly average for a center. He's not a liability there anymore. Lopez is twice the offensive player either Chandler/Noah are - not that either aren't deserving.

Ugh, I just realized I don't really care about this discussion since NBA All Star Games don't matter.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: BballTim on January 27, 2013, 12:44:33 PM
Ugh, I just realized I don't really care about this discussion since NBA All Star Games don't matter.

 I've fallen into that trap before. Every time I get into a discussion about whether a certain player should be an all-star I remember that there's no real criteria to argue about.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: OttawaCeltic on January 27, 2013, 04:56:12 PM
Bump
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: BballTim on January 27, 2013, 04:58:46 PM


  Doubt it will happen, but it would be somewhat amusing if PP got Rondo's spot on the team.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: guava_wrench on January 27, 2013, 04:59:46 PM
Bump
Really? The best way to keep a thread in the latest forum topics is to say something interesting. Not this "bump" nonsense.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: OttawaCeltic on January 27, 2013, 05:00:10 PM


  Doubt it will happen, but it would be somewhat amusing if PP got Rondo's spot on the team.

Yeah, i see J.Smith higher on the "fill-in list" if some1 gets injured (Rondo?, he isnt even a forward...)
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: KGs Knee on January 27, 2013, 05:00:41 PM
Not sure why this thread needs a bump. Pierce isn't an All-Star and really neither he nor Garnett really deserve to be one. I think that is becoming abundantly clear to anyone watching this team lately.

I actually wish Rondo and Garnett would each fake an injury just before the ASG and stay home and rest.

Yikes....be careful what you ask for
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 27, 2013, 05:01:21 PM
The only thing I'll say is that those who think that KG doesn't deserve to be an all-star are completely wrong. No argument to be made.
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: OttawaCeltic on January 27, 2013, 05:03:01 PM
Not sure why this thread needs a bump. Pierce isn't an All-Star and really neither he nor Garnett really deserve to be one. I think that is becoming abundantly clear to anyone watching this team lately.

I actually wish Rondo and Garnett would each fake an injury just before the ASG and stay home and rest.

Yikes....be careful what you ask for

What a moment when u realized Rondo is now apparently out with an ACL
Title: Re: What The Flip Moment: Paul Pierce Doesn't Make The All-Star Team
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 27, 2013, 05:05:13 PM
Not sure why this thread needs a bump. Pierce isn't an All-Star and really neither he nor Garnett really deserve to be one. I think that is becoming abundantly clear to anyone watching this team lately.

I actually wish Rondo and Garnett would each fake an injury just before the ASG and stay home and rest.

Yikes....be careful what you ask for

What a moment when u realized Rondo is now apparently out with an ACL

That guy totally just jinxed it. :-|