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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 23, 2013, 02:04:32 PM
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We are slipping in offensive efficiency and we shoot a TON of mid range shots. Unfortunately our shots aren't falling. And it's obvious, we can't win a ton of games playing that kind of offense.
I believe one tweak on the offensive plays would really help us tremendously is attacking the basket a lot more.
Penetrating and attacking the basket more would probably result in more FT attempts, helping us getting easy points and at the same time, helps us set to our defensive stance on the other side. Not to mention the potential foul trouble we can put against opposing teams.
I think we have some personnel who can do such things. Rondo can get to the rim, he needs to take those shots. I believe Avery and Green can get to the rim at will with their quickness. Sully and KG should pound the ball in instead of taking a lot of turn around jumpers, so as Bass. Also, the bigs should start ROLLING MORE instead of POPPING and waiting for mid range shots.
Shooting close to the rim would be high percentage. Has the chance to get fouls and FT and more importantly, it puts the opponents to emphasize on making sure the interior is locked up, opening up for Lee and Terry to have a lot of shooting room.
I believe this little tweak on the offense could give us a ton of help with our scoring.
Just a food for thought, Kyrie had 7 free throws in our last game. Most of it came from attacking the basket. If he didn't have 5 of those FT's we end up in overtime. We need to get to the rim more.
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Been sayin' this for years. Go to the hoop team.
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It'll happen if Jeff Green plays more.
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While I agree that part of this is a philosophy, there is also a real roster issue when it comes to getting to the hoop. The C's just don't have a ton of guys that are that great at it.
Just to go through a few:
Pierce still can, but not like he used to. He has lost a step, and it does prevent him from getting all the way to the hoop as easily as he once did. It also seems to take more out of him to do that, which is tough when he is pacing himself.
Rondo can absolutely do this more, and he should. With this, there is a level of self preservation with getting to the hoop. He just can't take that big of a beating as such a small guy, and keep bouncing up. But he is at his best when he is getting to the basket and going up strong.
Green...well, he is just frustrating. First of all, he really can only dribble well with his right hand. If he is able to get his right hand free and get a step, he can make some strong drives. However, he also has a tendency to just fling the ball up there, rather than finishing strong, even when he can get past his man. He is just insanely inconsistent with this.
Avery doesn't have the handle to consistently get to the basket. He has gotten better since he got here, but its still a work in progress. He needs to work on the first step to create separation. His backdoor cuts are nice though.
Sully can score inside against certain matchups, but if you make a point to get him in the post, then the defense closes him down, and his lack of athleticism makes it tough for him to get a good shot off.
Lee is good at finishing, but I am not sure he has the first step to consistently get to the hoop except for in transition.
And I am not sure anyone else really even needs mentioning at this point.
This is why this team does need a change. Get someone else in here who can score in the paint, and it could make a big difference. Or go the opposite way, and trade in the midrange jumpers for legit 3 pointers. But right now, they are stuck in no mans land, and its tough to watch.
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rondo saves it for the playoffs... and smart that he does
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Yeah, it'd be nice. But this is the price you pay when your two best scoring options are older jump shooters
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rondo saves it for the playoffs... and smart that he does
nope. that means he is not showing up every night then. or giving it his all. There will be no playoffs at the rate we are going or we will be swept in round 1.
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I have been saying this all season long. It will be our undoing this year.
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rondo saves it for the playoffs... and smart that he does
If he keeps saving it a bit more, there'll be no playoffs.
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I agree..... Lets get more agressive on defense, force turnovers and run off those turnovers for the quick cheap bunnies.
Part of the trouble is that our mentality gets passive at times and that limits ourselves to jacking midrange jumpers. This leads to poor energy and momentum loss for the Celtics and we lose games we should not be losing because of our passive mentality. We get passive at some point in the game and then we lose opportunites to win.
Harder work on defense and rebounding is a great place to start.
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Pierce still can, but not like he used to. He has lost a step, and it does prevent him from getting all the way to the hoop as easily as he once did. It also seems to take more out of him to do that, which is tough when he is pacing himself.
I have been pretty amazed that Pierce still gets to the rim and to the free throw line as much he still does.
5.4 FTAs per 15 FGAs. So that is around 35% FTA/FGA. Good figures for a player in his prime nevermind an old physically declining perimeter orientated player like Pierce.
Throw in that just over a third of those field goal attempts (5.4 3FGAs of 15 FGAs) are three pointers and FTA / 2 point FGA is even more impressive.
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Pierce still can, but not like he used to. He has lost a step, and it does prevent him from getting all the way to the hoop as easily as he once did. It also seems to take more out of him to do that, which is tough when he is pacing himself.
I have been pretty amazed that Pierce still gets to the rim and to the free throw line as much he still does.
5.4 FTAs per 15 FGAs. So that is around 35% FTA/FGA. Good figures for a player in his prime nevermind an old physically declining perimeter orientated player like Pierce.
Throw in that just over a third of those field goal attempts (5.4 3FGAs of 15 FGAs) are three pointers and FTA / 2 point FGA is even more impressive.
This is true. Although I don't think its consistent. He will go through stretches when he puts the team on his back and attacks the basket, and other stretches where he just turns into a jumpshooter. He just can't do it like he used to, physically.
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Need to protect the rim also!!!
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Pierce still can, but not like he used to. He has lost a step, and it does prevent him from getting all the way to the hoop as easily as he once did. It also seems to take more out of him to do that, which is tough when he is pacing himself.
I have been pretty amazed that Pierce still gets to the rim and to the free throw line as much he still does.
5.4 FTAs per 15 FGAs. So that is around 35% FTA/FGA. Good figures for a player in his prime nevermind an old physically declining perimeter orientated player like Pierce.
Throw in that just over a third of those field goal attempts (5.4 3FGAs of 15 FGAs) are three pointers and FTA / 2 point FGA is even more impressive.
This is true. Although I don't think its consistent. He will go through stretches when he puts the team on his back and attacks the basket, and other stretches where he just turns into a jumpshooter. He just can't do it like he used to, physically.
Oh yeah, I agree. Fully. Not consistent / reliable.
I was just trying to say how shocked I am that Pierce is still getting to the line as often as he is. I keep expecting Pierce to be considerably worse at getting to the FT line by now given the gradual decline of his game over the last few years.
Fair dues to him for still getting as many FTAs as he does. It is impressive.
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obvious thread is obvious
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rondo saves it for the playoffs... and smart that he does
If he keeps saving it a bit more, there'll be no playoffs.
My thoughts exactly (regarding the whole team)!