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Title: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: eugen on January 23, 2013, 12:07:13 PM
Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka? Is that possible?
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: Birdman on January 23, 2013, 12:09:23 PM
Why would OKC break up a good thing
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 23, 2013, 12:09:43 PM
No. You do not break up a championship-contending team with the best record in the league.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: coco on January 23, 2013, 12:11:12 PM
Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka? Is that possible

I don't think so.  Why would OKC do that trade?  They are what? 1st or 2nd in the standings and are probably the team to beat this year.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: eugen on January 23, 2013, 12:13:12 PM
No. You do not break up a championship-contending team with the best record in the league.

The sport is a bussiness man. OKC does not have Cs or LAL history @ NBA
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: eugen on January 23, 2013, 12:14:36 PM
Imagine Cs starting 5

Westbrook
Ibaka
KG
Sully
JJ Redick(AB)

This a team for the future, excluding KG
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: Kiorrik on January 23, 2013, 12:17:04 PM
Imagine Cs starting 5

Westbrook
Ibaka
KG
Sully
JJ Redick

This a team for the future, excluding KG

Where the heck did Redick come from? :]

Anyhoo, doubt this will happen. WHY would OKC do this? Don't see a reason.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: eugen on January 23, 2013, 12:18:58 PM
Imagine Cs starting 5

Westbrook
Ibaka
KG
Sully
JJ Redick

This a team for the future, excluding KG

Where the heck did Redick come from? :]

Anyhoo, doubt this will happen. WHY would OKC do this? Don't see a reason.

Mos likely JJ Redick will come
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: clover on January 23, 2013, 12:21:17 PM
An innovation in NBA trades!  OKC would be giving up the best big, the best guard, and the most youth in the deal.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: eugen on January 23, 2013, 12:23:29 PM
An innovation in NBA trades!  OKC would be giving up the best big, the best guard, and the most youth in the deal.

Innovation?! DA sent or biggest man and one of best bigd perk to OKC...
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: StartOrien on January 23, 2013, 12:25:16 PM
OKC laughs harder than an 11 year old listening to the Jerky Boys for the first time.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: Q_FBE on January 23, 2013, 12:37:44 PM
Jeff Green for Kendrick Perkins.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: eugen on January 23, 2013, 12:38:55 PM
OKC laughs harder than an 11 year old listening to the Jerky Boys for the first time.

Did they luaugh when they trade Harden to Houston??  ??? Grow up man.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: StartOrien on January 23, 2013, 01:03:27 PM
OKC laughs harder than an 11 year old listening to the Jerky Boys for the first time.

Did they luaugh when they trade Harden to Houston??  ??? Grow up man.

I'll "grow up" when you explain to me why OKC considers this. They're giving up unquestionably the best, and maybe even the second best player in this trade.

For what, exactly? Redundancy at the small forward position? To get weaker on the interior? To lose flexibility?
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: eugen on January 23, 2013, 01:08:03 PM
OKC laughs harder than an 11 year old listening to the Jerky Boys for the first time.

Did they luaugh when they trade Harden to Houston??  ??? Grow up man.

I'll "grow up" when you explain to me why OKC considers this. They're giving up unquestionably the best, and maybe even the second best player in this trade.

For what, exactly? Redundancy at the small forward position? To get weaker on the interior? To lose flexibility?

Are you NBA coach? Going deeply into analyzes? Why did they trade Harden?
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: ScottHow on January 23, 2013, 01:08:43 PM
Maybe if this was NBA 2K, where you can force teams to do trades.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: StartOrien on January 23, 2013, 01:09:32 PM
OKC laughs harder than an 11 year old listening to the Jerky Boys for the first time.

Did they luaugh when they trade Harden to Houston??  ??? Grow up man.

I'll "grow up" when you explain to me why OKC considers this. They're giving up unquestionably the best, and maybe even the second best player in this trade.

For what, exactly? Redundancy at the small forward position? To get weaker on the interior? To lose flexibility?

Are you NBA coach? Going deeply into analyzes? Why did they trade Harden?

1. I'm not an NBA coach
2. I have no idea what you're saying there
3. They didn't feel they could financially afford him and still make the profit they'd like.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: eugen on January 23, 2013, 01:18:33 PM

1. I'm not an NBA coach
2. I have no idea what you're saying there


This is important for me...
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: slamtheking on January 23, 2013, 01:37:00 PM
No. You do not break up a championship-contending team with the best record in the league.

The sport is a bussiness man. OKC does not have Cs or LAL history @ NBA
and yet they're doing much better than either of those teams this year without that history and figure to do much. much better than those teams over the next 8-10 years with that current core. 

talk about a horrible reason for breaking up the currently-best team in the NBA.  that alone would make it a bad trade not to mention that I think they'd be coming out on the short end in terms of talent in the deal too.   you can debate Westbrook vs Rondo but I really don't think you could get Ibaka for PP/Bass.  PP is looking more ancient with each passing game and Bass has been a non-factor this year. 
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: eugen on January 23, 2013, 01:41:18 PM
 
you can debate Westbrook vs Rondo but I really don't think you could get Ibaka for PP/Bass.  PP is looking more ancient with each passing game and Bass has been a non-factor this year.


Ok. Explain me how DA traded Perk for Green???
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: Sec22 on January 23, 2013, 01:45:12 PM
Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka? Is that possible?

Only if they throw in Durant.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: gpap on January 23, 2013, 01:53:24 PM
Oh yeah, OKC jumps at this deal in a heartbeat :-[
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: ScottHow on January 23, 2013, 01:55:24 PM
Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka? Is that possible?

Only if they throw in Durant.

lol tp
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: 2short on January 23, 2013, 01:55:51 PM
pierce's contract alone makes nearly every trade get turned down by other gms
add in his play as of late, bass' play, its not even a trade consideration
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: jayhovaone on January 23, 2013, 02:04:36 PM
Lets be realistic here people the only trade that actually makes sense for both of these franchises is a straight up swap of Rondo for westbrook.  This trade makes sense for the thunder because rondo is a do everything pointguard and a pass first pointguard he would make every player on that team better and would greatly improve Durants play. The reason the trade makes sense for the celtics is because westbrook gives them what they haven't had in years.  That is an explosive scorer who can get to the basket and score at will.  Paul pierce is a great player but was never able to score at will aginst anybody.  Thats what westbrook would give the celtics.  Plus with Doc rivers as the coach he might even help Westbrook to be a more efficient scorer of the basketball, which would be downright scary.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: blink on January 23, 2013, 02:05:31 PM
Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka? Is that possible?

I know there are a lot of trade ideas floated out there, but this one is just silly.  OKC is not going to trade Westbrook, or Ibaka or KD.  They just aren't.  They are a serious contender for the title this year.  The pieces don't match, and this trade would literally take them from contender to non-contender.

They traded Harden because they had to make a tough financial decision about how not to break the bank with their roster and still maintain their contender status.  The Harden deal basically assured that the lineup was solidified for the next 2-3 years. 

Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 23, 2013, 02:06:29 PM
And the best team in the league does this because?...
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: eugen on January 23, 2013, 02:37:03 PM
They traded Harden because they had to make a tough financial decision about how not to break the bank with their roster and still maintain their contender status.  The Harden deal basically assured that the lineup was solidified for the next 2-3 years.

No man.... You wrong. Harden asked for more money. OKC is not the top budget team such Miami or Lakers. So, they can trade everyone any time, if big players such Westbrook will ask to sign for more money...Imagine if Westbrook after 1 year will ask double money...The sport firstly is a bussiness!!!
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: Sec22 on January 23, 2013, 02:43:40 PM
Imagine if Westbrook after 1 year will ask double money...

I imagine the team will tell him he's under contract until 2017 so shut up and play.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: eugen on January 23, 2013, 02:45:12 PM

The reason the trade makes sense for the celtics is because westbrook gives them what they haven't had in years.  That is an explosive scorer who can get to the basket and score at will.  Paul pierce is a great player but was never able to score at will aginst anybody.  Thats what westbrook would give the celtics.  Plus with Doc rivers as the coach he might even help Westbrook to be a more efficient scorer of the basketball, which would be downright scary.


AGREE...Plus ...Westbrook is much better defensive player than Rondo especially in physical defence against Lebron or Wade. He is a beast!
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: eugen on January 23, 2013, 02:47:09 PM
Imagine if Westbrook after 1 year will ask double money...

I imagine the team will tell him he's under contract until 2017 so shut up and play.

Imagine if he will ask GM for trade...So shut up and trade me...Remember Carmelo Anthony @ Denver :D
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: blink on January 23, 2013, 02:48:42 PM
They traded Harden because they had to make a tough financial decision about how not to break the bank with their roster and still maintain their contender status.  The Harden deal basically assured that the lineup was solidified for the next 2-3 years.

No man.... You wrong. Harden asked for more money. OKC is not the top budget team such Miami or Lakers. So, they can trade everyone any time, if big players such Westbrook will ask to sign for more money...Imagine if Westbrook after 1 year will ask double money...The sport firstly is a bussiness!!!

No, I am not wrong.  You can't seem to read my response correctly.  I said it was a tough financial decision.  How is that not the same as yeah eventually Harden wants to get paid.

Other that that first sentence of your response, I have no idea what you are talking about.

If you are going to throw crazy, never to happen trade ideas out there, don't get over defensive when everyone calls it out as silly.
Title: Re: Idea: Pierce+Rondo+Bass for Westbrook+Ibaka
Post by: jayhovaone on January 23, 2013, 02:57:27 PM
Listen i also believe that the thunder messed up in trading harden i was saying all along that he deserved the max because of his skill set.  He is a better all around player than Westbrook and he is a very efficient scorer.  They should have asked the celtics for Rondo (who is making 10-11 mil per yr) and we take back westbrook who is making max money then they would have been able to sign HArden to a max contract and the team would definately have been better because of it.  There team would have been Durant (max contract), Harden (max contract), Ibaka(10-12mil), Rondo(10-11mil) and perkins (10mil)  they would have been all set and a better team because of it.  Westbrook for Rondo is what they should have come to the celtics with.