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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: Moranis on January 22, 2013, 12:10:19 PM
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1. Pacers
2. Knicks
3. Bulls (with a big asterisk)
Celtics not even a sniff.
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http://nba.si.com/2013/01/21/heat-nba-finals-knicks-pacers-bulls-derrick-rose-lebron-james/?sct=hp_t12_a6&eref=sihp (http://nba.si.com/2013/01/21/heat-nba-finals-knicks-pacers-bulls-derrick-rose-lebron-james/?sct=hp_t12_a6&eref=sihp)
1. Pacers
2. Knicks
3. Bulls (with a big asterisk)
Celtics not even a sniff.
What's the difference between this and me just writing my thoughts?
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http://nba.si.com/2013/01/21/heat-nba-finals-knicks-pacers-bulls-derrick-rose-lebron-james/?sct=hp_t12_a6&eref=sihp (http://nba.si.com/2013/01/21/heat-nba-finals-knicks-pacers-bulls-derrick-rose-lebron-james/?sct=hp_t12_a6&eref=sihp)
1. Pacers
2. Knicks
3. Bulls (with a big asterisk)
Celtics not even a sniff.
Were the 8th seed and just got dumped on by the Pistons.... No one outside the NBA respects us right now.
I do believe the Knicks and Heat will not underestimate us though.
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http://nba.si.com/2013/01/21/heat-nba-finals-knicks-pacers-bulls-derrick-rose-lebron-james/?sct=hp_t12_a6&eref=sihp (http://nba.si.com/2013/01/21/heat-nba-finals-knicks-pacers-bulls-derrick-rose-lebron-james/?sct=hp_t12_a6&eref=sihp)
1. Pacers
2. Knicks
3. Bulls (with a big asterisk)
Celtics not even a sniff.
What's the difference between this and me just writing my thoughts?
Some form of compensation? A healthy following of readers?
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http://nba.si.com/2013/01/21/heat-nba-finals-knicks-pacers-bulls-derrick-rose-lebron-james/?sct=hp_t12_a6&eref=sihp (http://nba.si.com/2013/01/21/heat-nba-finals-knicks-pacers-bulls-derrick-rose-lebron-james/?sct=hp_t12_a6&eref=sihp)
1. Pacers
2. Knicks
3. Bulls (with a big asterisk)
Celtics not even a sniff.
Yawn. If they wrote that a month ago or a month from now the teams listed would change. If the Celts were still on their winning streak they'd probably be on the list as well.
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http://nba.si.com/2013/01/21/heat-nba-finals-knicks-pacers-bulls-derrick-rose-lebron-james/?sct=hp_t12_a6&eref=sihp (http://nba.si.com/2013/01/21/heat-nba-finals-knicks-pacers-bulls-derrick-rose-lebron-james/?sct=hp_t12_a6&eref=sihp)
1. Pacers
2. Knicks
3. Bulls (with a big asterisk)
Celtics not even a sniff.
Yawn. If they wrote that a month ago or a month from now the teams listed would change. If the Celts were still on their winning streak they'd probably be on the list as well.
Yeah they might as well be power rankings.
If we beat the Knicks and Heat in the next couple weeks we'll probably be vaulted into the conversation again deservedly or not......then if we lose a few games in a row after we will be demoted again...shocking stuff
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The Pacers can't beat Miami. They just have no chance in hell. Roy Hibbert is simply too slow and limited defensively to make a competent team defense against Miami's skilled speed and size.
The Knicks might be able to but that depends a lot on Raymond Felton showing up for the playoffs. Last two go-arounds he was a no-show. Can't beat Miami being this dependent on Carmelo. They need other guys to step up and provide some more balanced scoring. Felton's dribble penetration is key to that.
Chicago has a chance too. Their rebounding, defense and size cause Miami issues. I don't have much trust in their offense with Derrick Rose leading the charge. I think Rose is too easy for LeBron to contain. But guys like Joakim Noah can do a lot of damage.
I still think Boston has the best chance in the East of knocking the Heat off. Their inability to contain Rondo. Garnett's defensive quality and mobility. Encouraging signs of Bradley being able to slow down Wade. LeBron will go off in a ridiculous way but they might be able to slow down the rest of them enough to take them out.
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The Pacers can't beat Miami. They just have no chance in hell. Roy Hibbert is simply too slow and limited defensively to make a competent team defense against Miami's skilled speed and size.
The Knicks might be able to but that depends a lot on Raymond Felton showing up for the playoffs. Last two go-arounds he was a no-show. Can't beat Miami being this dependent on Carmelo. They need other guys to step up and provide some more balanced scoring. Felton's dribble penetration is key to that.
Chicago has a chance too. Their rebounding, defense and size cause Miami issues. I don't have much trust in their offense with Derrick Rose leading the charge. I think Rose is too easy for LeBron to contain. But guys like Joakim Noah can do a lot of damage.
I still think Boston has the best chance in the East of knocking the Heat off. Their inability to contain Rondo. Garnett's defensive quality and mobility. Encouraging signs of Bradley being able to slow down Wade. LeBron will go off in a ridiculous way but they might be able to slow down the rest of them enough to take them out.
Ray could definitely be an X factor for.them
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The Pacers can't beat Miami. They just have no chance in hell. Roy Hibbert is simply too slow and limited defensively to make a competent team defense against Miami's skilled speed and size.
The Knicks might be able to but that depends a lot on Raymond Felton showing up for the playoffs. Last two go-arounds he was a no-show. Can't beat Miami being this dependent on Carmelo. They need other guys to step up and provide some more balanced scoring. Felton's dribble penetration is key to that.
Chicago has a chance too. Their rebounding, defense and size cause Miami issues. I don't have much trust in their offense with Derrick Rose leading the charge. I think Rose is too easy for LeBron to contain. But guys like Joakim Noah can do a lot of damage.
I still think Boston has the best chance in the East of knocking the Heat off. Their inability to contain Rondo. Garnett's defensive quality and mobility. Encouraging signs of Bradley being able to slow down Wade. LeBron will go off in a ridiculous way but they might be able to slow down the rest of them enough to take them out.
Ray could definitely be an X factor for.them
agreed - Bradley will score 10 points just backdoor cutting Ray. ;D
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Right now it looks like the C's will get the first crack at them. I think we match up well. KG makes Bosh look foolish every time they meet. Bradley and Lee can certainly slow Wade down. If Green and Pierce can do anything to make Lebron seem human we're on good footing. Rondo's triple-doubles don't hurt either :)
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This team hasn't shown me anything that would give me faith they can beat the defending champs.
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This team hasn't shown me anything that would give me faith they can beat the defending champs.
If playing Miami doesn't motivate this team to dial in and focus consistently then nothing will.
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Right now it looks like the C's will get the first crack at them. I think we match up well. KG makes Bosh look foolish every time they meet. Bradley and Lee can certainly slow Wade down. If Green and Pierce can do anything to make Lebron seem human we're on good footing. Rondo's triple-doubles don't hurt either :)
What are you talking about? The last 3 or 4 years Bosh and KG have pretty much cancelled each other out.
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This team hasn't shown me anything that would give me faith they can beat the defending champs.
So?
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Right now it looks like the C's will get the first crack at them. I think we match up well. KG makes Bosh look foolish every time they meet. Bradley and Lee can certainly slow Wade down. If Green and Pierce can do anything to make Lebron seem human we're on good footing. Rondo's triple-doubles don't hurt either :)
I wouldn't count on the Celts staying as low as 8th seed.
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This team hasn't shown me anything that would give me faith they can beat the defending champs.
So?
So that's why they don't get a sniff
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This team hasn't shown me anything that would give me faith they can beat the defending champs.
So?
So that's why they don't get a sniff
True, but whether or not they "get a sniff" has little to no bearing on whether they can actually beat the Heat.
Brooklyn's won 9 of 10 and are close to lapping Indy and NY, they didn't get a sniff either. Means nothing.
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This team hasn't shown me anything that would give me faith they can beat the defending champs.
So?
So that's why they don't get a sniff
True, but whether or not they "get a sniff" has little to no bearing on whether they can actually beat the Heat.
Brooklyn's won 9 of 10 and are close to lapping Indy and NY, they didn't get a sniff either. Means nothing.
I'm not agreeing with the list overall, as much as I am just agreeing that they shouldn't be in any list of teams that can beat Miami, imo.
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The Pacers can't beat Miami. They just have no chance in hell. Roy Hibbert is simply too slow and limited defensively to make a competent team defense against Miami's skilled speed and size.
The Knicks might be able to but that depends a lot on Raymond Felton showing up for the playoffs. Last two go-arounds he was a no-show. Can't beat Miami being this dependent on Carmelo. They need other guys to step up and provide some more balanced scoring. Felton's dribble penetration is key to that.
Chicago has a chance too. Their rebounding, defense and size cause Miami issues. I don't have much trust in their offense with Derrick Rose leading the charge. I think Rose is too easy for LeBron to contain. But guys like Joakim Noah can do a lot of damage.
I still think Boston has the best chance in the East of knocking the Heat off. Their inability to contain Rondo. Garnett's defensive quality and mobility. Encouraging signs of Bradley being able to slow down Wade. LeBron will go off in a ridiculous way but they might be able to slow down the rest of them enough to take them out.
Agreed. They couldn't do it last year with Bosh out. They aren't really much (if any) better this year than last and Heat have made roster improvements since last year. If Miami is healthy, Indy has NO chance. I apologize for writing this without even reading the author's reasoning, but there's just no chance.
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The Pacers can't beat Miami. They just have no chance in hell. Roy Hibbert is simply too slow and limited defensively to make a competent team defense against Miami's skilled speed and size.
The Knicks might be able to but that depends a lot on Raymond Felton showing up for the playoffs. Last two go-arounds he was a no-show. Can't beat Miami being this dependent on Carmelo. They need other guys to step up and provide some more balanced scoring. Felton's dribble penetration is key to that.
Chicago has a chance too. Their rebounding, defense and size cause Miami issues. I don't have much trust in their offense with Derrick Rose leading the charge. I think Rose is too easy for LeBron to contain. But guys like Joakim Noah can do a lot of damage.
I still think Boston has the best chance in the East of knocking the Heat off. Their inability to contain Rondo. Garnett's defensive quality and mobility. Encouraging signs of Bradley being able to slow down Wade. LeBron will go off in a ridiculous way but they might be able to slow down the rest of them enough to take them out.
Agreed. They couldn't do it last year with Bosh out. They aren't really much (if any) better this year than last and Heat have made roster improvements since last year. If Miami is healthy, Indy has NO chance. I apologize for writing this without even reading the author's reasoning, but there's just no chance.
I think Indiana is in fact a lot better than last year. George has taken another step upward as have Hill and Stephenson (who took a major leap). Indiana is about where they were at this point last year, except this year they haven't even gotten anything from Granger. When Granger comes back, I expect them to be that much better as it will put Stephenson back on the bench (a weak point for them) and shift everyone else on the bench down a rung. Granger being out allowed the young guys to take major steps upward and for Indy to get a lot better.
Also, when Miami plays small I don't foresee Hibbert being on the floor with Indy countering with West, George, Granger, Stephenson, and Hill.
And let me be clear, I would be totally surprised if any Eastern team beat the Heat, but I'd put the Pacers with as good a chance as any team to do it (except maybe a Rose led Bulls).