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Title: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Banner18now! on January 18, 2013, 10:35:34 PM
He is not known for his D and just stood there while Galanari fell down and shot the basket. Doc should have had a better defensive player in Galanari or however you spell his name should have ate that ball.  Bottom line Ainge needs to start making moves for the future and no I don't believe this after a loss I believe it even if they win 6 in a row. Time to move on.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Fafnir on January 18, 2013, 10:37:48 PM
Belinelli isn't Gallinari.

Also Terry was in there because Rondo was fouled out and he'd been playing solid D, I guess he didn't trust Green to shoot FTs cold if necessary or play smart D on a guard.

Anyways Terry did a good job, deflected the pass and was in position on his cut, he just hit a crazy shot.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: jdz101 on January 18, 2013, 10:38:33 PM
I stopped reading when you said Galinari...You're not even close

He plays for the denver nuggets...

Terry made huge shots and his trap defense was pretty decent in clutch time.

The jump ball call on pierce lost us that basketball game. Should never have been an overtime.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Banner18now! on January 18, 2013, 10:39:52 PM
Belinelli isn't Gallinari.

Also Terry was in there because Rondo was fouled out and he'd been playing solid D, I guess he didn't trust Green to shoot FTs cold if necessary or play smart D on a guard.

Anyways Terry did a good job, deflected the pass and was in position on his cut, he just hit a crazy shot.

Whatever dude it's the same crap Bellinelli Galinari   He should have ate the ball, watch that play again.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: j804 on January 18, 2013, 10:40:19 PM
GalliNARRRIII

-in my C Webb voice
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Banner18now! on January 18, 2013, 10:41:41 PM
I stopped reading when you said Galinari...You're not even close

He plays for the denver nuggets...

Terry made huge shots and his trap defense was pretty decent in clutch time.

The jump ball call on pierce lost us that basketball game. Should never have been an overtime.


Oh thank you Internet police for correcting me, I could care less about getting his name correct. If you stopped reading after I screwed up his name then why respond??
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Fafnir on January 18, 2013, 10:41:48 PM
Belinelli isn't Gallinari.

Also Terry was in there because Rondo was fouled out and he'd been playing solid D, I guess he didn't trust Green to shoot FTs cold if necessary or play smart D on a guard.

Anyways Terry did a good job, deflected the pass and was in position on his cut, he just hit a crazy shot.

Whatever dude it's the same crap Bellinelli Galinari   He should have ate the ball, watch that play again.
Really you think he should have blocked the shot off the deflection as he fell down on a turn around jumper?

Okay.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Banner18now! on January 18, 2013, 10:45:31 PM
Belinelli isn't Gallinari.

Also Terry was in there because Rondo was fouled out and he'd been playing solid D, I guess he didn't trust Green to shoot FTs cold if necessary or play smart D on a guard.

Anyways Terry did a good job, deflected the pass and was in position on his cut, he just hit a crazy shot.

Whatever dude it's the same crap Bellinelli Galinari   He should have ate the ball, watch that play again.
Really you think he should have blocked the shot off the deflection as he fell down on a turn around jumper?

Okay.

Watch the play again, he didn't deflect it and then the shot was made, he deflected it and Belinelli collected the ball and turned and shot. I just think a better defensive player should should have been on the court, ok.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: eugen on January 18, 2013, 10:49:14 PM
Why Pierce VS Boozer in last 2 minutes of regular time???
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: syfy9 on January 18, 2013, 10:49:42 PM
Do you think any other players on the Celtics team would be capable of stopping Belinelli turn around, leaning backwards flick shot?
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 18, 2013, 10:50:41 PM
Belinelli isn't Gallinari.

Also Terry was in there because Rondo was fouled out and he'd been playing solid D, I guess he didn't trust Green to shoot FTs cold if necessary or play smart D on a guard.

Anyways Terry did a good job, deflected the pass and was in position on his cut, he just hit a crazy shot.



Whatever dude it's the same crap Bellinelli Galinari   He should have ate the ball, watch that play again.
Really you think he should have blocked the shot off the deflection as he fell down on a turn around jumper?

Okay.

Watch the play again, he didn't deflect it and then the shot was made, he deflected it and Belinelli collected the ball and turned and shot. I just think a better defensive player should should have been on the court, ok.

maybe we could have secretly taken one of rondos fouls away and put him back on the floor or magically make bradley healthy so he could guard the circus shot "gallinari" hit at the end of the game.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: eugen on January 18, 2013, 10:52:13 PM
Do you think any other players on the Celtics team would be capable of stopping Belinelli turn around, leaning backwards flick shot?

Bellineli??? Are you talking about Belinelli normal player and he is not James or Koby...Come on man... ???
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Interceptor on January 18, 2013, 10:52:28 PM
Do you think any other players on the Celtics team would be capable of stopping Belinelli turn around, leaning backwards flick shot?
Indeed. JET is getting unfairly beat on here. It's not like Reed Richards was on the bench or anything.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Banner18now! on January 18, 2013, 10:53:21 PM
Belinelli isn't Gallinari.

Also Terry was in there because Rondo was fouled out and he'd been playing solid D, I guess he didn't trust Green to shoot FTs cold if necessary or play smart D on a guard.

Anyways Terry did a good job, deflected the pass and was in position on his cut, he just hit a crazy shot.



Whatever dude it's the same crap Bellinelli Galinari   He should have ate the ball, watch that play again.
Really you think he should have blocked the shot off the deflection as he fell down on a turn around jumper?

Okay.

Watch the play again, he didn't deflect it and then the shot was made, he deflected it and Belinelli collected the ball and turned and shot. I just think a better defensive player should should have been on the court, ok.

maybe we could have secretly taken one of rondos fouls away and put him back on the floor or magically make bradley healthy so he could guard the circus shot "gallinari" hit at the end of the game.

I would have preferred Green in why would it have to be Rondo or Avery?? I just don't think Terry should be in on the last play defensively. That's my take if you don't like it to bad.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Banner18now! on January 18, 2013, 10:55:53 PM
Do you think any other players on the Celtics team would be capable of stopping Belinelli turn around, leaning backwards flick shot?
Indeed. JET is getting unfairly beat on here. It's not like Reed Richards was on the bench or anything.

I'm not beating on Jet actually it's a knock on Doc. Terry is not known for his D not his fault. Just saying in any last possession defensive stand I don't want to see Terry in
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: eugen on January 18, 2013, 10:57:26 PM
Instead of Jet in this place has to be a big man(Perkins was before)
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Galeto on January 18, 2013, 11:00:17 PM
Do you think any other players on the Celtics team would be capable of stopping Belinelli turn around, leaning backwards flick shot?

Yes, Green or Pierce.  Belinelli shot that from a low angle.  A bigger guy than Terry like Pierce or Green could have either blocked it or put so much pressure on the shot that Belinelli might have missed.  That's beside the point anyway.  On the final defensive possession, you want to pull your weaker defensive players if possible.  Leaving Terry on the floor to guard a guy six inches bigger than him while Green rides the bench is nonsense. 
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: eugen on January 18, 2013, 11:01:51 PM
Do you think any other players on the Celtics team would be capable of stopping Belinelli turn around, leaning backwards flick shot?

Yes, Green or Pierce.  Belinelli shot that from a low angle.  A bigger guy than Terry like Pierce or Green could have either blocked it or put so much pressure on the shot that Belinelli might have missed.  That's beside the point anyway.  On the final defensive possession, you want to pull your weaker defensive players if possible.  Leaving Terry on the floor to guard a guy six inches bigger than him while Green rides the bench is nonsense.

Bass was the perfect solution to stop Belinelli
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Banner18now! on January 18, 2013, 11:02:51 PM
Do you think any other players on the Celtics team would be capable of stopping Belinelli turn around, leaning backwards flick shot?

Yes, Green or Pierce.  Belinelli shot that from a low angle.  A bigger guy than Terry like Pierce or Green could have either blocked it or put so much pressure on the shot that Belinelli might have missed.  That's beside the point anyway.  On the final defensive possession, you want to pull your weaker defensive players if possible.  Leaving Terry on the floor to guard a guy six inches bigger than him while Green rides the bench is nonsense.


Bingo!!!!  Thank you TP!!! My god you bring up a point here and everyone wants to jump down your throat. Yes it was a circus shot but if Green is in,who is a better defensive player, he doesn't get that shot off. Again you put your best defensive players in!
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Celtics18 on January 18, 2013, 11:15:36 PM
I can't fault Doc for having Jet in on that last possession.  He was playing really good D down the stretch of overtime.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Galeto on January 18, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Besides not subbing out Terry, I can't stand Doc's constant timeouts at the end of games.  He just loves set plays, just loves them to death.  I understand this is an odd game to complain about his excessive use of timeouts at the end of games since lot of the set pieces worked (not that the alternatives couldn't have) but [dang] do they make the games less fun to watch.  The constant timeouts kill any rhythm of a game.

I watch a lot of NBA basketball in general and no other coach calls timeouts at the end of games like Doc.  Other coaches actually let their players go up against a defense that isn't set after a timeout.  A truly novel idea. 
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 18, 2013, 11:26:21 PM
I dont think it matters who was on the lineup.

Ciao Marco hit a really tough shot, I dont think anyone would have done differently.

Its the refs' fault.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: PhoSita on January 19, 2013, 02:41:01 AM
Why does Jet play more than 10-12 minutes a night at this point?  I really have no idea.

Either he's way closer to being toast than anticipated prior to this season, or he just needs to be on a different team.  It's not working out here.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: mctyson on January 19, 2013, 06:42:39 AM
JET played GREAT defense last night...the best defense I have ever seen him play as a Celtic.  He is the last reason they lost.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Roy H. on January 19, 2013, 10:45:40 AM
Generally, when you force your man into an off-balance, falling down, fall-away jumper it's considered good defense, even if the ball goes in.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Roy H. on January 19, 2013, 10:47:12 AM
Why does Jet play more than 10-12 minutes a night at this point?  I really have no idea.

Either he's way closer to being toast than anticipated prior to this season, or he just needs to be on a different team.  It's not working out here.

I thought Terry played well last night, and I agree with a lot of the comments above:  his defense was pretty good.  He definitely put a lot more energy into defense than he usually does.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 19, 2013, 11:09:31 AM
Generally, when you force your man into an off-balance, falling down, fall-away jumper it's considered good defense, even if the ball goes in.

This.
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Smitty77 on January 19, 2013, 11:17:25 AM
Belinelli had 3 inches on Terry.  Probably not a wise matchup choice by Doc.  Where was Lee?  Was he on the court?  If so, who was he guarding?  I forget.

Also, Lee had a fantastic first half and played much less in the second half!!  Why Doc???

I agree that Terry played good trapping D most of the game, but he was nowhere on offense until that one shot.  Lee was playing both ends well.

Gotta agree with you banner18now.

Smitty77
Title: Re: Why was Jet in on the last play?.
Post by: Evantime34 on January 19, 2013, 11:26:27 AM
On the last offensive play Terry was in the pick and roll because he can shoot. They were trying to force a switch in which Pierce was on a smaller guy. If they didn't switch they needed someone who can knock down a jumper rolling after the pick.

On the last defensive play who would you rather have on Bellinelli? Barbosa? Green? Terry's min fault was not what he did after Marco got the ball but letting him get deep position like that in the first place. Terry got caught ball watching and did not contest Belli's cut.

Having him be a part of the last offensive play worked and it could pay dividends down the road as far as Terry's confidence.