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Title: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: rondohondo on January 15, 2013, 09:25:48 AM
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Boston Celtics general manager Danny Ainge isn't feeling any pressure to make a move before the trade deadline comes about. In fact, he's perfectly happy with where the team is at this point.

"I feel like we don't have any glaring needs when we're playing the way we're playing," he said. "Everyone's playing their role; whether they're playing well all the time is not as much of a point if they are accepting a role and giving an honest day's worth of work."


http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/1/15/3877880/nba-trade-rumors-boston-celticsDa

Roster is really good, but we still aren't winning anything unless we add another solid big man/defender to KG and Sully .
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: wdleehi on January 15, 2013, 09:28:40 AM
GM talk.


"We are happy with our team.  We feel no pressure to have to make a trade."  Translation, we are not going to overpay for your players.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Cman on January 15, 2013, 09:29:21 AM
GM talk.


"We are happy with our team.  We feel no pressure to have to make a trade."  Translation, we are not going to overpay for your players.

Ditto. I'd even add: "There is a potential trade about to happen, but we're trying to improve our bargaining position."
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Fafnir on January 15, 2013, 09:30:48 AM
GM talk.


"We are happy with our team.  We feel no pressure to have to make a trade."  Translation, we are not going to overpay for your players.
"And I will continue to low-ball you, every single time I call/text you."
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Chris on January 15, 2013, 09:31:03 AM
Key words "when we are playing like we are playing".  Its the qualifier that belies the statement.  Yeah, when your team has won 6 in a row, it is hard to nitpick.  That doesn't mean they can't make the team better.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: azzenfrost on January 15, 2013, 09:34:36 AM
It would suck if Danny traded for someone "better" and end up swapping the win streak for a losing one.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Chris on January 15, 2013, 10:59:07 AM
It would suck if Danny traded for someone "better" and end up swapping the win streak for a losing one.

Well, the question is (and its a difficult one), what exactly does the win streak mean?

Does it mean that this team is suddenly a legit championship contender?  Or does it mean that they are on a hot streak, and while most teams are turning it down a few notches in January, the C's are turning it up.  And so we are seeing the C's play at the top of their potential, while other teams are underperforming.  But the C's may not have that extra gear come April and May...or maybe they will.

This is why I don't envy Danny.  But it is also why I think Danny tends to ignore how the team is playing in the moment, and try to look at the roster as a whole.  He is not easily swayed by a losing streak, just like he is not easily swayed by a winning streak, because he knows, unless that is happening in the playoffs, it is not necessarily telling of the teams overall potential. 
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: mctyson on January 15, 2013, 11:17:51 AM
Roster is really good, but we still aren't winning anything unless we add another solid big man/defender to KG and Sully

Have to thoroughly disagree with this statement.  You can argue we might be better with another big man, but you cannot argue "we aren't winning anything" when they are only 4 games out of 1st place in the Eastern Conference before the All Star break.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 15, 2013, 11:20:16 AM
I agree with Danny.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 15, 2013, 11:20:25 AM
Of course he is going to say this we are on a six game winning streak. If we had lost 6 games in a row, everybodys name would be in the media as on the way out.

Danny is working the phones. That is his job. He is always going to be talking to other gm's about making deals to better our team. Thats what his job is. It doesnt mean anybody is on the trading block per say.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: manl_lui on January 15, 2013, 11:24:08 AM
I think no trade is imminent until the trade deadline

why? because we are on a 6 game winning streak and Danny wants to see how Bradley really impacts our game defensively. On this 6 game winning streak (hell even on our loss to Memphis, we have seen how contagious Bradley's defense is for our team).

Also, Sully is improving so rapidly that even we are surprised on how he is playing. This kid will continue to have his minutes increased and I believe he is still improving.

Danny won't do anything at the moment because he wants to see how this team plays with a full healthy roster. And I gotta say, this 6 game win streak is amazing, just seeing how everyone is playing their role and how chemistry is starting to get better.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: csfansince60s on January 15, 2013, 12:08:36 PM
Ainge's bargaining position is far stronger during a win streak or uptick of the team rather than during a losing streak like our West coast debacle.

We still need a big.

If we still believe that the road to the Finals goes through South Beach, the best way to beat the cHeat is not trying to beat them at their own game of "smalball", but rather to outmuscle them and beat them up inside.

The cHeat are a poor rebounding team. Bosh is averaging 5 rebounds per game in January as their starting center and 7 for the year. Against the Jazz last night, they kept getting pounded in the post.

That's how you beat the cHeat. Don't let our recent successes fool you. (I'm sure it doesn't Danny): WE NEED ANOTHER BIG.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: kozlodoev on January 15, 2013, 12:11:42 PM
Ainge's bargaining position is far stronger during a win streak or uptick of the team rather than during a losing streak like our West coast debacle.

We still need a big.

If we still believe that the road to the Finals goes through South Beach, the best way to beat the cHeat is not trying to beat them at their own game of "smalball", but rather to outmuscle them and beat them up inside.

The cHeat are a poor rebounding team. Bosh is averaging 5 rebounds per game in January as their starting center and 7 for the year. Against the Jazz last night, they kept getting pounded in the post.

That's how you beat the cHeat. Don't let our recent successes fool you. (I'm sure it doesn't Danny): WE NEED ANOTHER BIG.
You're not going to beat the Heat with any big man that may be available in free agency or trade.

Actually, the fact that the Heat do not have a dominant big makes our need for a more backup center all the less glaring.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Chris on January 15, 2013, 12:15:43 PM
Ainge's bargaining position is far stronger during a win streak or uptick of the team rather than during a losing streak like our West coast debacle.

We still need a big.

If we still believe that the road to the Finals goes through South Beach, the best way to beat the cHeat is not trying to beat them at their own game of "smalball", but rather to outmuscle them and beat them up inside.

The cHeat are a poor rebounding team. Bosh is averaging 5 rebounds per game in January as their starting center and 7 for the year. Against the Jazz last night, they kept getting pounded in the post.

That's how you beat the cHeat. Don't let our recent successes fool you. (I'm sure it doesn't Danny): WE NEED ANOTHER BIG.
You're not going to beat the Heat with any big man that may be available in free agency or trade.

Actually, the fact that the Heat do not have a dominant big makes our need for a more backup center all the less glaring.

Well, the one exception MAY be Cousins.  He is capable of dominating a basketball game, if he focussed, and the Heat wouldn't have an answer for him. 

Of course, focus is the issue.  And its also a question of what you would have to give up to get him. 

Gasol also has the potential to be that type of big man, but I don't think he is a realistic option for the C's. 
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: rondohondo on January 15, 2013, 12:21:45 PM
Ainge's bargaining position is far stronger during a win streak or uptick of the team rather than during a losing streak like our West coast debacle.

We still need a big.

If we still believe that the road to the Finals goes through South Beach, the best way to beat the cHeat is not trying to beat them at their own game of "smalball", but rather to outmuscle them and beat them up inside.

The cHeat are a poor rebounding team. Bosh is averaging 5 rebounds per game in January as their starting center and 7 for the year. Against the Jazz last night, they kept getting pounded in the post.

That's how you beat the cHeat. Don't let our recent successes fool you. (I'm sure it doesn't Danny): WE NEED ANOTHER BIG.
You're not going to beat the Heat with any big man that may be available in free agency or trade.

Actually, the fact that the Heat do not have a dominant big makes our need for a more backup center all the less glaring.

Well, the one exception MAY be Cousins.  He is capable of dominating a basketball game, if he focussed, and the Heat wouldn't have an answer for him. 

Of course, focus is the issue.  And its also a question of what you would have to give up to get him. 

Gasol also has the potential to be that type of big man, but I don't think he is a realistic option for the C's.

Big Al just dropped 23 and 11 on 57% shooting against Miami  last night. Might be able to get him for Green, Bass and a 1st or Melo?

Would hate to lose Green, but it's tempting if I am Danny..

Obviously we would need to find a new backup SF,but the upgrade at the big man position might be worth it.

add nene to the list too
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: crownontherocks on January 15, 2013, 12:25:56 PM
I know we all love what sully is doing and we dont want to trade him ,
but just say the kings say we want sully lee and someone else with out giving bradley for cousins

I know the kings would want more just talking would you trade sully to get cousins
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Kane3387 on January 15, 2013, 12:43:54 PM
Looks like Cousins won't be moved until the ownership situation is taken care of. That means he likely stays put until the season ends. Maybe around the draft he is moved.

I don't think we are going to make any blockbuster deals this season. We likely stand pat with this roster (we are on a 6 game winning streak) and hope to add a big or two via buyouts.

All along DA and Doc wanted to see what this team looked like with AB. I would say they probably like what they are seeing thus far.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Moranis on January 15, 2013, 12:46:54 PM
Roster is really good, but we still aren't winning anything unless we add another solid big man/defender to KG and Sully

Have to thoroughly disagree with this statement.  You can argue we might be better with another big man, but you cannot argue "we aren't winning anything" when they are only 4 games out of 1st place in the Eastern Conference before the All Star break.
and only 1/2 a game from the 8th seed and currently the 7th seed.  At least the 9th place team is as far away from Boston as Boston is from 1st.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: csfansince60s on January 15, 2013, 01:02:46 PM
Ainge's bargaining position is far stronger during a win streak or uptick of the team rather than during a losing streak like our West coast debacle.

We still need a big.

If we still believe that the road to the Finals goes through South Beach, the best way to beat the cHeat is not trying to beat them at their own game of "smalball", but rather to outmuscle them and beat them up inside.

The cHeat are a poor rebounding team. Bosh is averaging 5 rebounds per game in January as their starting center and 7 for the year. Against the Jazz last night, they kept getting pounded in the post.

That's how you beat the cHeat. Don't let our recent successes fool you. (I'm sure it doesn't Danny): WE NEED ANOTHER BIG.
You're not going to beat the Heat with any big man that may be available in free agency or trade.

Actually, the fact that the Heat do not have a dominant big makes our need for a more backup center all the less glaring.

Well, the one exception MAY be Cousins.  He is capable of dominating a basketball game, if he focussed, and the Heat wouldn't have an answer for him. 

Of course, focus is the issue.  And its also a question of what you would have to give up to get him. 

Gasol also has the potential to be that type of big man, but I don't think he is a realistic option for the C's.

Big Al just dropped 23 and 11 on 57% shooting against Miami  last night. Might be able to get him for Green, Bass and a 1st or Melo?

Would hate to lose Green, but it's tempting if I am Danny..

Obviously we would need to find a new backup SF,but the upgrade at the big man position might be worth it.

add nene to the list too

....and Okafur, and Gortat, and Dalembert.

So now we have at least 5 bigs (AlJeff, Nene, Okafur, Gortat and Dalembert)who would help our rebounding tremendously and give us a better chance againstthe cHeat.

+1 for the open mind and the viable suggestions, rondohondo



Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: CelticHooligan3 on January 15, 2013, 01:33:18 PM
Just so everyone is clear what type of potential Cousins flashes on a nightly basis.. His line last night was, 26pts on 7-of-14 shooting, 14rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals, and 3 blocks. And yes i'd trade Sully for that type of production.





http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1715/demarcus-cousins






Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Chris on January 15, 2013, 01:37:27 PM
Ainge's bargaining position is far stronger during a win streak or uptick of the team rather than during a losing streak like our West coast debacle.

We still need a big.

If we still believe that the road to the Finals goes through South Beach, the best way to beat the cHeat is not trying to beat them at their own game of "smalball", but rather to outmuscle them and beat them up inside.

The cHeat are a poor rebounding team. Bosh is averaging 5 rebounds per game in January as their starting center and 7 for the year. Against the Jazz last night, they kept getting pounded in the post.

That's how you beat the cHeat. Don't let our recent successes fool you. (I'm sure it doesn't Danny): WE NEED ANOTHER BIG.
You're not going to beat the Heat with any big man that may be available in free agency or trade.

Actually, the fact that the Heat do not have a dominant big makes our need for a more backup center all the less glaring.

Well, the one exception MAY be Cousins.  He is capable of dominating a basketball game, if he focussed, and the Heat wouldn't have an answer for him. 

Of course, focus is the issue.  And its also a question of what you would have to give up to get him. 

Gasol also has the potential to be that type of big man, but I don't think he is a realistic option for the C's.

Big Al just dropped 23 and 11 on 57% shooting against Miami  last night. Might be able to get him for Green, Bass and a 1st or Melo?

Would hate to lose Green, but it's tempting if I am Danny..

Obviously we would need to find a new backup SF,but the upgrade at the big man position might be worth it.

add nene to the list too

....and Okafur, and Gortat, and Dalembert.

So now we have at least 5 bigs (AlJeff, Nene, Okafur, Gortat and Dalembert)who would help our rebounding tremendously and give us a better chance againstthe cHeat.

+1 for the open mind and the viable suggestions, rondohondo

Now, I think you may have taken it a little far.  I would say that guys like Okafor and Dalembert, and perhaps Gortat wouldn't actually cause problems for the Heat.

Okafor looks completely cooked.  He just has not been the player he used to be (and even then, he wasn't the type of player that you needed to worry too much about offensively).  He would be pretty easy to cover with single coverage, with pretty much any of the Heat's big men, without a problem. 

Dalembert may not even get on the floor for the C's, and would be a disaster against the Heat.  He is just a terrible team defender, and when you play Lebron, you need the team defense to be clicking perfectly to stop the pick and rolls.  And offensively, he is not a threat for anything other than the occasional alley-oop.  Not someone they would worry about.

Gortat is a bit different.  Its so hard to tell with him on that Phoenix team, but I actually think he would be a solid enough defense, and his ability to score on the pick and roll offensively would actually cause a problem for the Heat.  He is not the kind of low post scorer that can really hurt them the way someone like Gasol, Cousins, or Jefferson could, but he would keep the Heat honest, and open up the floor for the C's shooters. 
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Chris on January 15, 2013, 01:39:38 PM
Just so everyone is clear what type of potential Cousins flashes on a nightly basis.. His line last night was, 26pts on 7-of-14 shooting, 14rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals, and 3 blocks. And yes i'd trade Sully for that type of production.





http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1715/demarcus-cousins

You HAVE to trade Sully for that kind of production.

Basically, you would be trading off the worries of Sully's back being an issue for Cousin's attitude being an issue, while upgrading in talent. 

Cousin's basically has the same skillset as Sully, but is taller and more athletic.  The only thing holding him back from being a superstar is an inconsistent effort (but when he gives it, he GIVES it), and a little bit extra crazy. 
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: wdleehi on January 15, 2013, 01:41:33 PM
The more I think about it, the more I like Jefferson on the Celtics.  Put him in the low post on offense creates issues for the Heat.  Bosh is probably to small to defend him down there and do they really want Lebron down there for a 7 game series?  Could force them to go "big". 



Defensively, let him hold the paint and allow KG to roam more.  He isn't great, but he will be solid for the Celtics down there.  The Celtics can still move KG back to C and bring in a better defender at PF for that single stop. 
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 15, 2013, 01:43:05 PM
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Boston Celtics general manager Danny Ainge isn't feeling any pressure to make a move before the trade deadline comes about. In fact, he's perfectly happy with where the team is at this point.

"I feel like we don't have any glaring needs when we're playing the way we're playing," he said. "Everyone's playing their role; whether they're playing well all the time is not as much of a point if they are accepting a role and giving an honest day's worth of work."


http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/1/15/3877880/nba-trade-rumors-boston-celticsDa

Roster is really good, but we still aren't winning anything unless we add another solid big man/defender to KG and Sully .

I concur.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 15, 2013, 01:50:36 PM
Roster is really good, but we still aren't winning anything unless we add another solid big man/defender to KG and Sully

Have to thoroughly disagree with this statement.  You can argue we might be better with another big man, but you cannot argue "we aren't winning anything" when they are only 4 games out of 1st place in the Eastern Conference before the All Star break.

I'm just guessing, but by "we aren't winning anything," I think RondoHondo meant that we can't win the NBA title, not that we literally couldn't win anything (e.g., something lesser such as the division). And I agree with him. Sully is a great rebounder, but not a rim protector. Wilcox is great at what he does (run, finish), but he's not a rim protector. Neither is Bass. Neither is Collins. KG is the only intimidating interior defender on the roster. Having an improved perimeter defense with the return of Bradley certainly helps our bigs, but I'd feel more comfortable and confident if there was someone else obsessively guarding the cylinder whenever KG's out.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 15, 2013, 01:56:02 PM
Ainge's bargaining position is far stronger during a win streak or uptick of the team rather than during a losing streak like our West coast debacle.

We still need a big.

If we still believe that the road to the Finals goes through South Beach, the best way to beat the cHeat is not trying to beat them at their own game of "smalball", but rather to outmuscle them and beat them up inside.

The cHeat are a poor rebounding team. Bosh is averaging 5 rebounds per game in January as their starting center and 7 for the year. Against the Jazz last night, they kept getting pounded in the post.

That's how you beat the cHeat. Don't let our recent successes fool you. (I'm sure it doesn't Danny): WE NEED ANOTHER BIG.
You're not going to beat the Heat with any big man that may be available in free agency or trade.

Actually, the fact that the Heat do not have a dominant big makes our need for a more backup center all the less glaring.

Let's not forget that the Heat aren't the only team we'll have to beat on the way to an NBA title. The Knicks have Chandler and Stoudemire; the Nets have Lopez, Humphries, Blatche, and Evans; the Sixers might have Bynum; the Bulls have Boozer and Noah; the Spurs have Duncan and Splitter; the Thunder have Perk and Ibaka; the Clippers have Griffin and Jordan.

Point being, we may be in severe need of another decent big at more than one point in the postseason.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: csfansince60s on January 15, 2013, 02:22:34 PM
Ainge's bargaining position is far stronger during a win streak or uptick of the team rather than during a losing streak like our West coast debacle.

We still need a big.

If we still believe that the road to the Finals goes through South Beach, the best way to beat the cHeat is not trying to beat them at their own game of "smalball", but rather to outmuscle them and beat them up inside.

The cHeat are a poor rebounding team. Bosh is averaging 5 rebounds per game in January as their starting center and 7 for the year. Against the Jazz last night, they kept getting pounded in the post.

That's how you beat the cHeat. Don't let our recent successes fool you. (I'm sure it doesn't Danny): WE NEED ANOTHER BIG.
You're not going to beat the Heat with any big man that may be available in free agency or trade.

Actually, the fact that the Heat do not have a dominant big makes our need for a more backup center all the less glaring.

Well, the one exception MAY be Cousins.  He is capable of dominating a basketball game, if he focussed, and the Heat wouldn't have an answer for him. 

Of course, focus is the issue.  And its also a question of what you would have to give up to get him. 

Gasol also has the potential to be that type of big man, but I don't think he is a realistic option for the C's.

Big Al just dropped 23 and 11 on 57% shooting against Miami  last night. Might be able to get him for Green, Bass and a 1st or Melo?

Would hate to lose Green, but it's tempting if I am Danny..

Obviously we would need to find a new backup SF,but the upgrade at the big man position might be worth it.

add nene to the list too

....and Okafur, and Gortat, and Dalembert.

So now we have at least 5 bigs (AlJeff, Nene, Okafur, Gortat and Dalembert)who would help our rebounding tremendously and give us a better chance againstthe cHeat.

+1 for the open mind and the viable suggestions, rondohondo

Now, I think you may have taken it a little far.  I would say that guys like Okafor and Dalembert, and perhaps Gortat wouldn't actually cause problems for the Heat.

Okafor looks completely cooked.  He just has not been the player he used to be (and even then, he wasn't the type of player that you needed to worry too much about offensively).  He would be pretty easy to cover with single coverage, with pretty much any of the Heat's big men, without a problem. 

Dalembert may not even get on the floor for the C's, and would be a disaster against the Heat.  He is just a terrible team defender, and when you play Lebron, you need the team defense to be clicking perfectly to stop the pick and rolls.  And offensively, he is not a threat for anything other than the occasional alley-oop.  Not someone they would worry about.

Gortat is a bit different.  Its so hard to tell with him on that Phoenix team, but I actually think he would be a solid enough defense, and his ability to score on the pick and roll offensively would actually cause a problem for the Heat.  He is not the kind of low post scorer that can really hurt them the way someone like Gasol, Cousins, or Jefferson could, but he would keep the Heat honest, and open up the floor for the C's shooters.

Okafor has averaged 28 minutes, 11 rebounds and 1.3 blocks in the last 10 games including a 19/10 game in his last game. He can still rebound, expires next year and in my opinion gives us minutes and bounds at C that would be hge for us. That being said, I would rather have Nene. He's not as burnt and costs the same $$, but for 2 years longer than Okafor.

Dalembert is a bargain right now. He has only played in 18 games thsi year, because he has been in Skiles doghouse. Skiles, you know not exactly a forgiving, second chance player's coach.

In those 18 games, he has averaged 16 minutes, 6ppg, 5rpg and 1.3 bpg in 16 minutes. He will be a rebounder and rim protector for us and we can buy low on him, unless Boylan starts playing him with Skiles gone.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 15, 2013, 02:34:46 PM
Of course danny would say that... as he feverishly shops everyone on the team behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Celtics18 on January 15, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
I agree with Danny. 
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: azzenfrost on January 15, 2013, 03:08:12 PM
As long as they keep playing the way they're playing. ;D
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: lightspeed5 on January 16, 2013, 04:11:08 AM
I think he's waiting for waiver wire veterans to see who gets cut and whos worth signing as an insurance policy
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Birdman on January 16, 2013, 08:03:49 AM
Ths means he is looking to trade
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: eugen on January 17, 2013, 11:02:03 AM
I do not know how Danny can be happy if a mediocer team like New Orleans, come and beat you up at your home?! :o
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Chris on January 17, 2013, 11:17:41 AM
I do not know how Danny can be happy if a mediocer team like New Orleans, come and beat you up at your home?! :o

The thing is, New Orleans has been on a similar run as the C's have lately.  They beat some really good teams, including San Antonio, and they had an impressive win against Philly the night before beating Boston.

And I don't mean that the C's shouldn't feel bad about losing to them.  What I mean is that a 6 game winning streak does not necessarily mean you are suddenly something you weren't 2 weeks ago. 

The fact of the NBA is that in January, a lot of teams go on mental vacations.  Their focus disappears, and suddenly they are not very hard to beat.  So, when another team decides to come in focussed at this time of year, they can really feast, and look really good.  But, that doesn't mean that they will be good enough in April or May, when those other teams wake back up.

Now, I am not sure what this team really is.  But I think Danny should take last night as a lesson that he shouldn't be blinded by streaks and records.  He needs to try to look at the team for what it is, and what it will be in the playoffs, and then decide what to do about it.  Luckily, I think Danny already knew that, though.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: eugen on January 17, 2013, 02:37:51 PM
I do not know how Danny can be happy if a mediocer team like New Orleans, come and beat you up at your home?! :o

The thing is, New Orleans has been on a similar run as the C's have lately.  They beat some really good teams, including San Antonio, and they had an impressive win against Philly the night before beating Boston.

And I don't mean that the C's shouldn't feel bad about losing to them.  What I mean is that a 6 game winning streak does not necessarily mean you are suddenly something you weren't 2 weeks ago. 

The fact of the NBA is that in January, a lot of teams go on mental vacations.  Their focus disappears, and suddenly they are not very hard to beat.  So, when another team decides to come in focussed at this time of year, they can really feast, and look really good.  But, that doesn't mean that they will be good enough in April or May, when those other teams wake back up.

Now, I am not sure what this team really is.  But I think Danny should take last night as a lesson that he shouldn't be blinded by streaks and records.  He needs to try to look at the team for what it is, and what it will be in the playoffs, and then decide what to do about it.  Luckily, I think Danny already knew that, though.
There is no excuse to justify losing a normal easy game against the 14th team from the West. Coming and beating you up is a big disappointment. This team need 2-3 roster changes in order to win championship.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: wdleehi on January 17, 2013, 02:47:32 PM
I do not know how Danny can be happy if a mediocer team like New Orleans, come and beat you up at your home?! :o

The thing is, New Orleans has been on a similar run as the C's have lately.  They beat some really good teams, including San Antonio, and they had an impressive win against Philly the night before beating Boston.

And I don't mean that the C's shouldn't feel bad about losing to them.  What I mean is that a 6 game winning streak does not necessarily mean you are suddenly something you weren't 2 weeks ago. 

The fact of the NBA is that in January, a lot of teams go on mental vacations.  Their focus disappears, and suddenly they are not very hard to beat.  So, when another team decides to come in focussed at this time of year, they can really feast, and look really good.  But, that doesn't mean that they will be good enough in April or May, when those other teams wake back up.

Now, I am not sure what this team really is.  But I think Danny should take last night as a lesson that he shouldn't be blinded by streaks and records.  He needs to try to look at the team for what it is, and what it will be in the playoffs, and then decide what to do about it.  Luckily, I think Danny already knew that, though.
There is no excuse to justify losing a normal easy game against the 14th team from the West. Coming and beating you up is a big disappointment. This team need 2-3 roster changes in order to win championship.


Last year the Heat lost to the:
Warriors
Bucks (twice)
Wizards (twice)


This is the NBA where good team lose to terrible teams.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: pp34isthe1 on January 17, 2013, 03:14:02 PM
Mid season pick ups of waived vetrans is not going to turn this team into a contender. Its pretty simple really, we need a big man who can be a post threat, rebound and protect the rim.
We need a star.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Chris on January 17, 2013, 03:15:05 PM
Mid season pick ups of waived vetrans is not going to turn this team into a contender. Its pretty simple really, we need a big man who can be a post threat, rebound and protect the rim.
We need a star.

Easier said than done.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: celtics2 on January 18, 2013, 07:01:34 AM
Danny's getting silly with age!!
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on January 18, 2013, 07:36:42 AM
Mid season pick ups of waived vetrans is not going to turn this team into a contender. Its pretty simple really, we need a big man who can be a post threat, rebound and protect the rim.
We need a star.

^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: wdleehi on January 18, 2013, 08:51:37 AM
Mid season pick ups of waived vetrans is not going to turn this team into a contender. Its pretty simple really, we need a big man who can be a post threat, rebound and protect the rim.
We need a star.

Easier said than done.


And not cheap. 
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: jdz101 on January 18, 2013, 09:01:43 AM
Mid season pick ups of waived vetrans is not going to turn this team into a contender. Its pretty simple really, we need a big man who can be a post threat, rebound and protect the rim.
We need a star.

^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Teams don't give up their stars.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: ssspence on January 18, 2013, 09:09:25 AM
Mid season pick ups of waived vetrans is not going to turn this team into a contender. Its pretty simple really, we need a big man who can be a post threat, rebound and protect the rim.
We need a star.

Easier said than done.


And not cheap.

And I'd say it's extremely unlikely Ainge gives up either Bradley or Sully in a trade this year -- even for a quality player like Gortat, and especially for a lesser player like Robin Lopez.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: ssspence on January 18, 2013, 09:10:57 AM
GM talk.


"We are happy with our team.  We feel no pressure to have to make a trade."  Translation, we are not going to overpay for your players.

Precisely -- feel like he gives this speech every year after the holidays.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: celticslove on January 18, 2013, 09:51:48 AM
if he is really happy with this roster then i think he's happy we will be out in the first or second round. not gonna win it with this lineup.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: OsirusCeltics on January 18, 2013, 10:49:31 AM
Mid season pick ups of waived vetrans is not going to turn this team into a contender. Its pretty simple really, we need a big man who can be a post threat, rebound and protect the rim.
We need a star.

Doesn't fall off trees. Celtics need a semi-star. A Gortat/Nene/Robin Lopez type talent
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: OsirusCeltics on January 18, 2013, 10:50:10 AM
"Danny happy with roster"

Yupp and fish ride bicycles
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: wdleehi on January 18, 2013, 11:01:14 AM
"Danny happy with roster"

Yupp and fish ride bicycles



I believe he is happy with his roster.



And I believe he is going to try and make moves to make himself even happier with his roster.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Chris on January 18, 2013, 11:13:16 AM
"Danny happy with roster"

Yupp and fish ride bicycles



I believe he is happy with his roster.



And I believe he is going to try and make moves to make himself even happier with his roster.

Right.  He is happy, but not content. 
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: AB_Celtic on January 18, 2013, 11:14:59 AM
Mid season pick ups of waived vetrans is not going to turn this team into a contender. Its pretty simple really, we need a big man who can be a post threat, rebound and protect the rim.
We need a star.

Doesn't fall off trees. Celtics need a semi-star. A Gortat/Nene/Robin Lopez type talent

Since when is Robin Lopez a semi-star? I'd honestly take Stiemsma over him.
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Chris on January 18, 2013, 11:17:14 AM
Mid season pick ups of waived vetrans is not going to turn this team into a contender. Its pretty simple really, we need a big man who can be a post threat, rebound and protect the rim.
We need a star.

Doesn't fall off trees. Celtics need a semi-star. A Gortat/Nene/Robin Lopez type talent

Since when is Robin Lopez a semi-star? I'd honestly take Stiemsma over him.

Since he destroyed the sleeping C's the other night. 

Lopez is a decent player on a bad team, and a relatively intriguing prospect for the future.  But he is nowhere close to a star.  Although, I do think he is approaching the level of Gortat (who isn't a star either). 
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 18, 2013, 11:46:17 AM
yeah , despert as the C's are for a KG backup , even Lopezs look amazing ....

I think Fab Melo can be good as the Lopezs  in 1-2 years.... but not sure what to do till then. ???
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: slamtheking on January 18, 2013, 12:22:49 PM
Mid season pick ups of waived vetrans is not going to turn this team into a contender. Its pretty simple really, we need a big man who can be a post threat, rebound and protect the rim.
We need a star.

Doesn't fall off trees. Celtics need a semi-star. A Gortat/Nene/Robin Lopez type talent

Since when is Robin Lopez a semi-star? I'd honestly take Stiemsma over him.

Since he destroyed the sleeping C's the other night. 

Lopez is a decent player on a bad team, and a relatively intriguing prospect for the future.  But he is nowhere close to a star.  Although, I do think he is approaching the level of Gortat (who isn't a star either).
I don't see Lopez even developing that much.  he's just another low-talent player able to look like an all-star against our lackluster frontcourt
Title: Re: Danny happy with roster, doesn't think we have any glaring needs
Post by: Who on January 18, 2013, 12:52:12 PM
Mid season pick ups of waived vetrans is not going to turn this team into a contender. Its pretty simple really, we need a big man who can be a post threat, rebound and protect the rim.
We need a star.

Doesn't fall off trees. Celtics need a semi-star. A Gortat/Nene/Robin Lopez type talent

Since when is Robin Lopez a semi-star? I'd honestly take Stiemsma over him.

Since he destroyed the sleeping C's the other night. 

Lopez is a decent player on a bad team, and a relatively intriguing prospect for the future.  But he is nowhere close to a star.  Although, I do think he is approaching the level of Gortat (who isn't a star either).
I don't see Lopez even developing that much.  he's just another low-talent player able to look like an all-star against our lackluster frontcourt
Agreed -- I don't see R.Lopez as a future Gortat type either.

Offensively, I think Robin Lopez can already replicate what Gortat does but I don't think R.Lopez will become the defender or rebounder that Gortat is.

I am pretty disappointed in R.Lopez' development so far so I am not optimistic about him growing his game all that much in the future. I think he'll continue to be a well below average but passable starter to high quality backup center.