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Title: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Smutzy#9 on January 15, 2013, 03:11:22 AM
Not sure if many people watched the game today but in the 4th quarter of the Miami v Utah game today Wade was benched for the entire 4th quater while bosh only played 40 seconds

cant be more happy, Wade is a talented player, but god i HATE him. The more i see him mope and Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. like a little girl the happier it makes me.

Hopefully these chemistry issues implode the heat.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: lightspeed5 on January 15, 2013, 03:15:20 AM
wade is deteriorating very quickly. i hope we lock up d wade with avery and lee when we play them.

bosh had 1 rebound. sully makes bosh look like a joke.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: j804 on January 15, 2013, 03:24:10 AM
Not sure if many people watched the game today but in the 4th quarter of the Miami v Utah game today Wade was benched for the entire 4th quater while bosh only played 40 seconds

cant be more happy, Wade is a talented player, but god i HATE him. The more i see him mope and **** like a little girl the happier it makes me.

Hopefully these chemistry issues implode the heat.
Hopefully they implode after we woop them like the Knicks, they haven't been the same since. ;D

I know its coming up sometime this month well be fired up for a little payback.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: manl_lui on January 15, 2013, 04:01:58 AM
I was wondering the same thing...why was he benched? but then again, none of my business, cuz as long as we beat them :)
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Smutzy#9 on January 15, 2013, 04:06:09 AM
Im not sure why he was benched. I dont think he was playing great, but still you think he would be the better option that shard lewis dont ya?
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 15, 2013, 05:22:03 AM
He was benched eh? Is it chemistry issues all over again?

GO TO HELL D WADE!
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 15, 2013, 06:46:11 AM
Trouble in MIA?

I LOVE IT!

Bench Wade and start Ray Ray ;D
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Who on January 15, 2013, 07:35:14 AM
I think they should trade D-Wade.

It was worthwhile living with the skill-set overlap between LeBron and Wade when Wade was playing at an MVP level but that is no longer the case. Miami should look to trade Wade and build a more prototypical basketball team instead of the unorthodox mix they currently have that Spoelstra clearly isn't comfortable coaching.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: slamtheking on January 15, 2013, 08:06:30 AM
I think they should trade D-Wade.

It was worthwhile living with the skill-set overlap between LeBron and Wade when Wade was playing at an MVP level but that is no longer the case. Miami should look to trade Wade and build a more prototypical basketball team instead of the unorthodox mix they currently have that Spoelstra clearly isn't comfortable coaching.
I'd like that from the standpoint of giving a nice little kick in the teeth to Wade.  ship him out after he helped recruit Bron and Bosh to the team. 
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Bankshot on January 15, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
Trouble in MIA?

I LOVE IT!

Bench Wade and start Ray Ray ;D

Not sure that would happen.  From the Realgm Miami board:

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Ray Allen is no key. He just needs to hit his threes and not get too comfortable out of his role like he usually likes to because he's far too turnover prone.

Remember, there's a reason why Boston easily favored Avery Bradley and also signed Jet without much hesitation. Ray's a huge liability on defense and can't do much but shoot. I don't know what you guys expect from him? If he gives around 12.5 ppg a game i'm more than satisfied.

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Ray Allen is the problem. His defense is horrid and when he's not hitting shots he's really not adding anything for this team.

that being said, I hope Miami signs a [dang] big, because that is also a big problem. We knew Ray Allen couldn't play defense when he signed here, and that's what we've gotten.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 15, 2013, 08:15:31 AM
wade is deteriorating very quickly. i hope we lock up d wade with avery and lee when we play them.

bosh had 1 rebound. sully makes bosh look like a joke.

I completely agree. I've continually called Wade "terrible" this year. Deteriorating and he just isnt really playing all that well. Those hits and drives to the basket over the years are getting to him.

Yet, he is still averaging 20, 5 and 4 while shooting 50% from the field.

Puzzling to me. However, his stock is falling fast talent wise. And his stock as a likeable player is already at rockbottom for me.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2013, 08:16:16 AM
D-Thug is a hero in Miami , he an't going no where.  He is their Paul Pierce .   He'll have to want to leave .  Money maybe the thing that he leaves for.  He is now not worth his paycheck.

His whole game has been hurling his body though the air for a dunk or to get fouled.  So yeah , his legs and back have been over stressed.  Kobe on the other hand is a shooter and goes less to the rim.

Higher you jump , the harder you fall.

Hopefully , Wade willbe worn out by playoffs, the Heat lose go on a couple losing streaks .

ENjoyed UTAH beating on them.

Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Moranis on January 15, 2013, 08:32:33 AM
Miami was down 19 points entering the 4th.  Why put Wade out there in a meaningless game at that point when he could use the rest?  People are reading way too much into that.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Fafnir on January 15, 2013, 08:52:41 AM
I think they should trade D-Wade.

It was worthwhile living with the skill-set overlap between LeBron and Wade when Wade was playing at an MVP level but that is no longer the case. Miami should look to trade Wade and build a more prototypical basketball team instead of the unorthodox mix they currently have that Spoelstra clearly isn't comfortable coaching.
No way they pull the trigger early though, maybe if they lose short of the Finals but even then I doubt it.

So in all odds they'll probably wait too long, won't get a great deal for Wade.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Snakehead on January 15, 2013, 08:54:50 AM
I think they should trade D-Wade.

It was worthwhile living with the skill-set overlap between LeBron and Wade when Wade was playing at an MVP level but that is no longer the case. Miami should look to trade Wade and build a more prototypical basketball team instead of the unorthodox mix they currently have that Spoelstra clearly isn't comfortable coaching.
No way they pull the trigger early though, maybe if they lose short of the Finals but even then I doubt it.

So in all odds they'll probably wait too long, won't get a great deal for Wade.

Yeah this is probably what happens.

As I've said before having LeBron play with more of a shooter would have been better.  It'd be too ballsy of a move to see happening though and especially with DWade being a Miami player for so long.

Can't say I'm not happy seeing this happen to Wade.  He went from a player I liked quite a lot to one I really hate.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Fafnir on January 15, 2013, 08:57:45 AM
Oh and let me just put up something about how crazy good LeBron is.

He shredded the Jazz in the fourth while guarding Big Al and Derrick Favors. Ran their entire offense, creating good looks consistently just to get the game within reach. Just couldn't finish it off, Utah/Miami games always seem to have some juice.

Milsap draining all those 3s was probably the craziest one.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Who on January 15, 2013, 08:59:22 AM
I think they should trade D-Wade.

It was worthwhile living with the skill-set overlap between LeBron and Wade when Wade was playing at an MVP level but that is no longer the case. Miami should look to trade Wade and build a more prototypical basketball team instead of the unorthodox mix they currently have that Spoelstra clearly isn't comfortable coaching.
No way they pull the trigger early though, maybe if they lose short of the Finals but even then I doubt it.

So in all odds they'll probably wait too long, won't get a great deal for Wade.

Yeah this is probably what happens.

As I've said before having LeBron play with more of a shooter would have been better.  It'd be too ballsy of a move to see happening though and especially with DWade being a Miami player for so long.

Can't say I'm not happy seeing this happen to Wade.  He went from a player I liked quite a lot to one I really hate.

It's going to be very interesting to see how much loyalty Pat Riley shows Wade.

Whether Riley will stick with Wade and let him retire in Miami, or, if Riley will trade Wade in order to improve Miami's title chances.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Fafnir on January 15, 2013, 09:02:25 AM
Miami reporters and sportswriters seem to think he'll be ruthless about trading him.

I have my doubts that he'll pull the trigger in the end.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Snakehead on January 15, 2013, 09:04:13 AM
I think they should trade D-Wade.

It was worthwhile living with the skill-set overlap between LeBron and Wade when Wade was playing at an MVP level but that is no longer the case. Miami should look to trade Wade and build a more prototypical basketball team instead of the unorthodox mix they currently have that Spoelstra clearly isn't comfortable coaching.
No way they pull the trigger early though, maybe if they lose short of the Finals but even then I doubt it.

So in all odds they'll probably wait too long, won't get a great deal for Wade.

Yeah this is probably what happens.

As I've said before having LeBron play with more of a shooter would have been better.  It'd be too ballsy of a move to see happening though and especially with DWade being a Miami player for so long.

Can't say I'm not happy seeing this happen to Wade.  He went from a player I liked quite a lot to one I really hate.

It's going to be very interesting to see how much loyalty Pat Riley shows Wade.

Whether Riley will stick with Wade and let him retire in Miami, or, if Riley will trade Wade in order to improve Miami's title chances.

The reason I could see it happening is because I think Riley knows how great LeBron is and how he very possibly could leave to a better option if Miami doesn't do what's necessary to stay up to par talent wise.

Still crazy to imagine.

Oh and let me just put up something about how crazy good LeBron is.

He shredded the Jazz in the fourth while guarding Big Al and Derrick Favors. Ran their entire offense, creating good looks consistently just to get the game within reach. Just couldn't finish it off, Utah/Miami games always seem to have some juice.

Milsap draining all those 3s was probably the craziest one.

He's such an amazing player.  Didn't catch the game but just reading about it you have to appreciate it and not take it for granted because we've seen it for a while now.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: OsirusCeltics on January 15, 2013, 09:06:08 AM
wade is deteriorating very quickly. i hope we lock up d wade with avery and lee when we play them.

bosh had 1 rebound. sully makes bosh look like a joke.

I have always called Bosh a tall SG lol
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: OsirusCeltics on January 15, 2013, 09:17:02 AM
I really wanna know what happened between Wade and that fan
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Moranis on January 15, 2013, 09:17:48 AM
Miami reporters and sportswriters seem to think he'll be ruthless about trading him.

I have my doubts that he'll pull the trigger in the end.
I do as well, not because I don't think Riley would trade Wade, but more because I think if he does it might cause James to leave.  After all he came to Miami to play with his buddy Wade.  Let's put it this way, if Riley moves Wade it is because James was ok with the move and I just don't know if James will ever be ok with it.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Fafnir on January 15, 2013, 09:21:08 AM
Miami reporters and sportswriters seem to think he'll be ruthless about trading him.

I have my doubts that he'll pull the trigger in the end.
I do as well, not because I don't think Riley would trade Wade, but more because I think if he does it might cause James to leave.  After all he came to Miami to play with his buddy Wade.  Let's put it this way, if Riley moves Wade it is because James was ok with the move and I just don't know if James will ever be ok with it.
Yeah James would have to be okay with it, and even then trades this big get leaked. What if it falls through?

Wade's not exactly an even keeled guy, especially lately. I'm not sure how he'd react to being part of trade rumors, especially if he knows/thinks LBJ gave Riley the okay to shop him.

Tricky situation, very similar to the one with Pau Gasol. Which is why I think it will take a loss, maybe two, short of the Finals for it to occur.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: CelticG1 on January 15, 2013, 09:56:05 AM
Off topic- when all is said and done Pierce's career will outshine Wades
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: RyNye on January 15, 2013, 10:22:27 AM
It would take a pretty disastrous playoff performance for Wade to get traded.

People are getting over-excited about a 5 game stretch of mediocre play by the Heat.

They are still the defending champions. They are still number 1 in the East. And yes, Wade is not having a great season, but he is still having a GOOD season.

He is still the best rebounding guard (well, I would say Jason Kidd and Rondo are more skilled rebounders, but Wade has the size to get a couple more per game), a good passer, and good defender. And for all the grief people are giving him, HE IS SHOOTING BETTER THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR!!!

This season, he has his best field goal percentage AND 3-point percentages OF HIS CAREER. He is also getting to the line more than last year.

So ... basically you people are completely overreacting if you think Wade is about to be traded.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Fafnir on January 15, 2013, 10:29:39 AM
So ... basically you people are completely overreacting if you think Wade is about to be traded.
We have been speculating that the Heat should trade him, not that his trade is imminent.

As for Wade's numbers holding up, its not a numbers thing. Pierce put up great numbers in 2010-2011, in many categories better than in 2007-2008. But he wasn't the same impact offensive player, especially not on a consistent basis.

That's what I'm seeing with Wade, he's very up and down overall. Heck his numbers in Utah weren't "awful", 11 points on 5-11 FGA 5 Rebs 4 Asts 2 TOs.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: CelticG1 on January 15, 2013, 10:33:15 AM
It would take a pretty disastrous playoff performance for Wade to get traded.

People are getting over-excited about a 5 game stretch of mediocre play by the Heat.

They are still the defending champions. They are still number 1 in the East. And yes, Wade is not having a great season, but he is still having a GOOD season.

He is still the best rebounding guard (well, I would say Jason Kidd and Rondo are more skilled rebounders, but Wade has the size to get a couple more per game), a good passer, and good defender. And for all the grief people are giving him, HE IS SHOOTING BETTER THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR!!!

This season, he has his best field goal percentage AND 3-point percentages OF HIS CAREER. He is also getting to the line more than last year.

So ... basically you people are completely overreacting if you think Wade is about to be traded.

I don't think people are saying Wade is bad, just that they could get someone back just as valuable with a better skillets for the team than what he provides.

Even with Miamis successes the Lebron Wade pairing has never been ideal. It just happens that Lebron is.so good and Wade is very good that it ends up working good enough
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Moranis on January 15, 2013, 10:39:32 AM
I thought Miami should have moved Wade for Howard before the Lakers finally got him.  I think I even posted a thread on here saying that Miami should move Wade.  That said I don't think they are going to move Wade and even if they were open to it it would have to be an incredible offer and I'm not sure what that would be. 

Something that might work in theory would be Wade for Love straight up.  Obviously leaves Miami a big hole in the back court, but would definitely shore up their front court for a very long time.  It gets Minnesota the type of player that would add excitement and the sort of veteran that that team needs to really make a move in the West and with Pekovic and AK47 they could survive trading a big for a small.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: soap07 on January 15, 2013, 10:54:29 AM
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Off topic- when all is said and done Pierce's career will outshine Wades

There is virtually no way this will happen.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Fafnir on January 15, 2013, 10:55:36 AM
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Off topic- when all is said and done Pierce's career will outshine Wades

There is virtually no way this will happen.
Yeah the NBA values peak play and team success.

Wade's peak coincided with the first Miami title.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: Who on January 15, 2013, 10:58:26 AM
Wade is having a disturbing amount of sub-par games against playoff opponents this season. He has been padding his stats against lotto teams.

It sure looks like the wheels are coming off ...


Miami should trade D-Wade now before his decline worsens while they can still get good value for him in the trade market. Not so much for this season but for the year after and the year after that and the next one after that. Otherwise, they could be dealing with a sinking ship (in terms of winning or not winning Championships) within a short period of time.
Title: Re: Wade benched in the 4th
Post by: CelticG1 on January 15, 2013, 11:05:53 AM
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Off topic- when all is said and done Pierce's career will outshine Wades

There is virtually no way this will happen.
Yeah the NBA values peak play and team success.

Wade's peak coincided with the first Miami title.

Would you say as it stands today that Wade has had a better Career than Pierce?

Who do you mean by the NBA? Peers, media, coaches, commish?

I would say longevity is valued extremely high as well. Wade can't just start to deteriorate over the next 5 years and still be valued that high. Its really incredible what Pierce is able to do at his age. Let's see in 5 years if Wade is doing the same thing