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Title: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: AB_Celtic on January 14, 2013, 04:13:38 PM
After this nice little winning streak that could extend further, are you guys expecting anything tomorrow (once Bass and Green become eligible to be traded)?

I think Bass is one of (if not the) most tradable player on our team, so I could see him being moved. The question is just how soon. I no longer think there's any urgency. A month ago many of us were counting down the minutes until tomorrow. Anyone else agree we can just ride the wave for a little now?

In other words, I don't expect anything tomorrow.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: Chris on January 14, 2013, 04:20:55 PM
I don't think any significant moves will happen (with any teams) until closer to the deadline.  Trades just rarely happen this early.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: Birdman on January 14, 2013, 04:24:21 PM
Trade deadlie is when a trade may happen..btw, when is the trade deadline? I know its in Feb
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: Chris on January 14, 2013, 04:25:03 PM
Trade deadlie is when a trade may happen..btw, when is the trade deadline? I know its in Feb

21st I think (or whatever the thursday is of that week)
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: Birdman on January 14, 2013, 04:26:27 PM
Trade deadlie is when a trade may happen..btw, when is the trade deadline? I know its in Feb

21st I think (or whatever the thursday is of that week)
thanks..thought it was earlier in the month
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: CFAN38 on January 14, 2013, 04:35:13 PM
I would really like to see the Cs move sooner than the deadline. That way the new players have more time to fit in.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on January 14, 2013, 04:37:48 PM
Bass aint goin nowhere
get over it
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: ScottHow on January 14, 2013, 04:40:16 PM
Yea, nothing is going to happen tomorrow. It will sometime close to the deadline.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: Chris on January 14, 2013, 05:26:36 PM
Yea, nothing is going to happen tomorrow. It will sometime close to the deadline.

I also would mentally prepare yourself for someone other than the guys we want sent out to be traded. 

Chances are, some of the guys we don't want to be traded, will be the ones to go, if Danny does make a deal. 
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: OsirusCeltics on January 14, 2013, 05:47:42 PM
I think Sulliger's growth as a player and recent production would make Ainge more than willing to trade Bass
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: slamtheking on January 14, 2013, 05:56:41 PM
nothing will happen until close to the end of the trading deadline, if then.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: erisred on January 14, 2013, 06:29:06 PM
I think Sulliger's growth as a player and recent production would make Ainge more than willing to trade Bass
OTOH, Sullinger's growth as a player and recent production might make him worth more in a trade than Bass.

With Danny as GM you simply can not fall in love with players. To him they are either core or chips and you just don't know which players *he* puts in which category.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 14, 2013, 06:33:09 PM
We aren't gonna make a move after a 5 game win streak. Danny has a month to really see what this team has to offer. He'll be working the phones and getting deals in place. The question of whether or not he'll pull the trigger is at least two and more likely three weeks down the road.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: csfansince60s on January 14, 2013, 06:49:50 PM
We aren't gonna make a move after a 5 game win streak. Danny has a month to really see what this team has to offer. He'll be working the phones and getting deals in place. The question of whether or not he'll pull the trigger is at least two and more likely three weeks down the road.

I do agree with your time-frame, but if he makes a trade, I hope it's in the midst of a win streak, or at least when the team "looks" stable and strong.

Don't wanna trade from a position of weakness (read losing streak) or when looking desperate.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 14, 2013, 07:00:37 PM
IMO...  nothing

believe DA is satisfied to sit on his winning streak and see how these next 4-5 games go.... ie..are the C's for real or are they flash in the pan.

I imagine then team feels the same...long as they are winning they may remain together . 

The C's seem to finally have a Chemistry.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: action781 on January 14, 2013, 07:03:00 PM
Yea, nothing is going to happen tomorrow. It will sometime close to the deadline.

I also would mentally prepare yourself for someone other than the guys we want sent out to be traded. 

After 2 years ago, yeah, I'm prepared for anybody except KG to be traded away.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: Celtics18 on January 14, 2013, 07:21:53 PM
I'm trying to prepare myself for the fact that a trade could happen, but, personally, I think I'd rather just keep this gang together.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on January 14, 2013, 10:14:27 PM
Bass aint goin nowhere
get over it

disagree.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: Fafnir on January 14, 2013, 10:16:17 PM
Yea, nothing is going to happen tomorrow. It will sometime close to the deadline.

I also would mentally prepare yourself for someone other than the guys we want sent out to be traded. 

Chances are, some of the guys we don't want to be traded, will be the ones to go, if Danny does make a deal.
Yup.

It will be interesting to see. Though I think Danny will give this group till close to deadline in all odds.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on January 14, 2013, 10:17:09 PM
I'm trying to prepare myself for the fact that a trade could happen, but, personally, I think I'd rather just keep this gang together.
ok..but we had best sign a vet big then for next to nothing and hope he is not a bum. we need a real player at the 5 when KG is out.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: azzenfrost on January 14, 2013, 10:35:43 PM
Nothing. Just wait and see.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 11:54:24 PM
I think the Feb. trade deadline is where the moves will happen.

We are on a nice win streak, it will help Danny as he will have sone room and time to evaluate the team.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: kozlodoev on January 14, 2013, 11:57:15 PM
After this nice little winning streak that could extend further, are you guys expecting anything tomorrow (once Bass and Green become eligible to be traded)?

I think Bass is one of (if not the) most tradable player on our team, so I could see him being moved. The question is just how soon. I no longer think there's any urgency. A month ago many of us were counting down the minutes until tomorrow. Anyone else agree we can just ride the wave for a little now?

In other words, I don't expect anything tomorrow.
I don't see how Bass is tradeable. We have three rotation big men right now -- trading one of them for another is a lateral move.

If anything, one of the guards is expendable (because Barbosa is able to soak up some minutes), and when the music stops, Jason Terry is likely the one without a chair. Though I don't think a trade will happen at all tomorrow.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on January 15, 2013, 12:00:38 AM
Bass is definitely a goner with Sullinger's emergence. Ainge could flip bass straight up for a decent backup PG or maybe piece him with someone like Bradley, Melo, Terry, etc to try and get a solid Center.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: aries31 on January 15, 2013, 12:12:03 AM
Bass has not been the reason for the win streak. I think it's time to trade him and get a real center. Bass and collins for dalembert is the best trade to do without giving up our young guys. we need to get a real center and get rid of the jump shooter.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: 2short on January 15, 2013, 01:28:48 AM
what can terry bring for a backup center?
with draft picks or melo
with bass , how much better of a center
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: azzenfrost on January 15, 2013, 02:00:19 AM
Would feel bad for Terry, tattoo and all. But if he does net DA a really really good player who will help the C's, another casualty of the "business".
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: j804 on January 15, 2013, 04:09:40 AM
I saw over on the RealGM forums:

One source says Ainge has been shopping Bass hard on the hunt for a big man
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: crimson_stallion on January 15, 2013, 04:45:32 AM
I don't see how Bass is tradeable. We have three rotation big men right now -- trading one of them for another is a lateral move.

1. We have Green, Sullinger, KG, Wilcox (on his return) who can all play PF

2. His salary is reasonable enough to keep him desirable, yet high enough to allow us to get a reasonable player back

3. He's been arguably the worst player on our team over the course of this season. At 26 years old he's unlikely to have lost all his skill in the space of one season, so many teams may want to take a chance in the hope a change of scenery and bigger role brings back the Bass from last season - I legitiately think the emergence of Sullinger has hurt his confidence (along with him being move to the bench at times) so his situation here may not be the best one for him.

Obviously he's no superstar and he won't bring us back a Paul Millsap or a Marcin Gortat, but he might bring us a solid second tier center who can give us solid production behind KG for 20 mins a night.

Personally I think that Wilcox (once he returns) and Collins have done a pretty solid job of holding down the backup center position do I don't think we really NEED a trade to be honest.

Still, Bass has gone downhill big time and as Sully's minutes increase I get the feeling Bass' prouction will continue to drop the the point of invisible.

$4M-$5M a year is a lot of money for a 6'7" PF who's mediocre defensively, one dimensional offensively, a mediocre rebounder, and only on the court for 15 minutes a night.

It would not surprise me in the least to see any combination of Bass/Terry/Barbosa/Collins/Picks sent out in an attempt to get us back a capable big man
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: bfrombleacher on January 15, 2013, 04:58:48 AM
Bass, picks for J-Smoove  :-X

Please please please please please please please
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: colincb on January 15, 2013, 05:22:11 AM
Buy low, sell high.  The only rule of investing that everyone agrees on and that applies pretty much to any transaction including trades of players in professional sports.  You don't trade players if they are playing below their ability or if you're losing IFyou're expecting to get fair value back (there might be other reasons to trade someone, like ridding yourself of a cancer). As this applies to the Cs?  They're in a better position to trade now after a string of wins and guys like Lee, Green and Sullinger are more tradeable now that they are playing better than they were before (and conversely with Bass and Terry). As for trades in the near future? Probably not as the Cs schedule is favorable for the next few weeks and more wins would elevate the value of any of its trade chips.  Danny can afford to wait.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: CoachBo on January 15, 2013, 07:01:10 AM
I don't think any significant moves will happen (with any teams) until closer to the deadline.  Trades just rarely happen this early.

Co-sign.
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: Kuberski1 on January 15, 2013, 07:38:07 AM
Agree with the general consensus...nothing happens for at least a few more weeks...
Title: Re: Expectations for tomorrow (January 15)
Post by: kozlodoev on January 15, 2013, 07:42:51 AM
I don't see how Bass is tradeable. We have three rotation big men right now -- trading one of them for another is a lateral move.

1. We have Green, Sullinger, KG, Wilcox (on his return) who can all play PF

2. His salary is reasonable enough to keep him desirable, yet high enough to allow us to get a reasonable player back

3. He's been arguably the worst player on our team over the course of this season. At 26 years old he's unlikely to have lost all his skill in the space of one season, so many teams may want to take a chance in the hope a change of scenery and bigger role brings back the Bass from last season - I legitiately think the emergence of Sullinger has hurt his confidence (along with him being move to the bench at times) so his situation here may not be the best one for him.

Obviously he's no superstar and he won't bring us back a Paul Millsap or a Marcin Gortat, but he might bring us a solid second tier center who can give us solid production behind KG for 20 mins a night.

Personally I think that Wilcox (once he returns) and Collins have done a pretty solid job of holding down the backup center position do I don't think we really NEED a trade to be honest.

Still, Bass has gone downhill big time and as Sully's minutes increase I get the feeling Bass' prouction will continue to drop the the point of invisible.

$4M-$5M a year is a lot of money for a 6'7" PF who's mediocre defensively, one dimensional offensively, a mediocre rebounder, and only on the court for 15 minutes a night.

It would not surprise me in the least to see any combination of Bass/Terry/Barbosa/Collins/Picks sent out in an attempt to get us back a capable big man
1. Sure, we have all those guys who _could_ play PF. Except in the numbers game half of them play something else, KG is the starting center, Green is the backup SF (and his ability to play PF effectively is situational anyhow), and Wilcox is more or less worthless unless you're finding him for wide open shots.

2. This is true. You can also say that for a handful of other players on the team (Lee, Terry, Rondo, Sullinger).

3. This is hilarious. Mostly because it's false. He's been up and down, and definitely worse than he's been the past couple of years -- but Lee, Terry, Bass and Green have all had stretches in which they've played considerably worse than him.

Also, he's not 26, he's not 6'7, and he's not making $4 million per year.

And I won't be talking about any sort of "Sullinger emergency" until he stops being a threat to foul out in 20 minutes.