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Title: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 05:47:41 AM
I think everyone knows my obsession with Sully and me wishing him to grow a couple more inches, as I think he'll be dominant at 6'11". It got me thinking...

Just for conversation (it's slow at work), for the fun of it, which player/s who's not a superstar right now do you guys think that, if he grew 2 more inches, would be at a superstar level in the NBA. Any player, retired or current.

My top 5.

David Lee - I can't imagine how many more rebounds a game this guy can have if he's 6'11". And he'll be more deadly in the post.

Andre Drummond - although it's still pretty early, a 7 foot Drummond might be the next coming of Dikembe. So athletic, long and great defensive instincts. Two more inches of length and he'll be a defensive wall for the Pistons.

Al Horford - I think this is pretty self explanatory. Horford at 7 feet is probably a top 3 Center, at least?


Avery Bradley - Why go far. His ball pressure against PG's is already elite, if he's 6'4" and will be able to defend wings as well without giving up too much length, we're looking at a multiple All NBA Defensive Team guy.

Kenneth Faried - Good Lord, the things this guy does, now make him 6'10". Yeah right?

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: If they only he grew a couple more inches...
Post by: bfrombleacher on January 14, 2013, 05:55:15 AM
If Rondo was D-Will's size, he'd be pretty good. 2 inches taller.

If Pierce was 2 inches taller, he'd be pretty good.

If Bass was 2 inches taller, he'd be worth a lot more too.

If Jeff Green was 2 inches taller, he'd be able to play like Blatche. Also good.

If Wilcox was 2 inches taller, with his hustle, he could be a pretty darn good center too.

Courtney Lee with an extra 2 inches would be able to guard both wing positions.

Fab Melo with an extra 2 inches...with the same mobility? Dang.

Barbosa would not be as undersized as he is now with an extra 2 inches. Same goes for the Jet Terry.

If Rondo were 6'8 he'd be as good as LeBron.

As a short guy who likes basketball, I am very aware of the benefits of being taller.
Title: Re: If they only he grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 05:57:39 AM
If Rondo was D-Will's size, he'd be pretty good. 2 inches taller.

If Pierce was 2 inches taller, he'd be pretty good.

If Bass was 2 inches taller, he'd be worth a lot more too.

If Jeff Green was 2 inches taller, he'd be able to play like Blatche. Also good.

If Wilcox was 2 inches taller, with his hustle, he could be a pretty darn good center too.

Courtney Lee with an extra 2 inches would be able to guard both wing positions.

Fab Melo with an extra 2 inches...with the same mobility? Dang.

Barbosa would not be as undersized as he is now with an extra 2 inches. Same goes for the Jet Terry.

If Rondo were 6'8 he'd be as good as LeBron.

As a short guy who likes basketball, I am very aware of the benefits of being taller.

a 6'9" Paul Pierce...?

How many MVP's would he win? But he's already a superstar though at 6'7", i don't think he needs the extra two to be one.

I'm with you with Rondo, but the rest I'm not sure.

Will they be superstars with an added 2 inches? I don't know if Bass and Wilcox will be. They'll be even more valuable that's true, but I don't think they'll be superstars.

Rondo at 6'3" though, yeah try to stop that...
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: CelticsFan9 on January 14, 2013, 06:22:52 AM
Westbrook and Rose.

I hate that we consider these guys PGs because they're not.  Westbrook is a horrible decision-maker as the position, and while Rose isn't as bad, he would probably be better suited playing at the 2 next to a spot-up shooter PG.  Westbrook would be considered a much better player if he was a SG.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 06:25:15 AM
Westbrook and Rose.

I hate that we consider these guys PGs because they're not.  Westbrook is a horrible decision-maker as the position, and while Rose isn't as bad, he would probably be better suited playing at the 2 next to a spot-up shooter PG.  Westbrook would be considered a much better player if he was a SG.

Yeah, the dreaded 6'3" tweener guard syndrome. It seems like every name that is being involved in this category are 6'3".

Should we put Monta and Eric Gordon in the same category? Maybe Jeremy Lin too?
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: CelticsFan9 on January 14, 2013, 06:27:53 AM
Westbrook and Rose.

I hate that we consider these guys PGs because they're not.  Westbrook is a horrible decision-maker as the position, and while Rose isn't as bad, he would probably be better suited playing at the 2 next to a spot-up shooter PG.  Westbrook would be considered a much better player if he was a SG.

Yeah, the dreaded 6'3" tweener guard syndrome. It seems like every name that is being involved in this category are 6'3".

Should we put Monta and Eric Gordon in the same category? Maybe Jeremy Lin too?

Jeremy Lin is better off as a PG.  Gordon and Ellis definitely.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 06:31:30 AM
Westbrook and Rose.

I hate that we consider these guys PGs because they're not.  Westbrook is a horrible decision-maker as the position, and while Rose isn't as bad, he would probably be better suited playing at the 2 next to a spot-up shooter PG.  Westbrook would be considered a much better player if he was a SG.

Yeah, the dreaded 6'3" tweener guard syndrome. It seems like every name that is being involved in this category are 6'3".

Should we put Monta and Eric Gordon in the same category? Maybe Jeremy Lin too?

Jeremy Lin is better off as a PG.  Gordon and Ellis definitely.

How about Dragic and Ben Gordon? You think they'll be superstars at 6'5"?

Steph Curry?
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: timobusa on January 14, 2013, 06:34:51 AM
Jason Kidd is 6'4 and I've never thought of him as a tweener in his earlier days.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 06:38:49 AM
Jason Kidd is 6'4 and I've never thought of him as a tweener in his earlier days.

Yeah he's a pure point. A big PG actually.

There are just guys where they are, I guess I will use the word "forced" into the PG position because they don't have the adequate size to play the 2.

Westbrook is the best example. That guy is 2 masking on a PG's body.

Monta was considered a PG before, but he's really a 2.

Allen Iverson is a 2 guard, but since he's 6 feet he has to be the PG.

Steph Curry is also a 2 coming out of college. Then everyone said that he'll have a hard time in the NBA as a SG and needs to be a PG. He stayed and developed the skill, worked for him. But really, that magical Davidson run, everyone will agree that Steph is a 2 guard in a PG's body.

Those names develpoed some PG skills (not Monta maybe) during in their careers, but they really are a scoring 2.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: BballTim on January 14, 2013, 06:41:13 AM
Jason Kidd is 6'4 and I've never thought of him as a tweener in his earlier days.

  ...because he has much better point guard skills than Rose or Westbrook.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: CelticsFan9 on January 14, 2013, 06:41:59 AM
Westbrook and Rose.

I hate that we consider these guys PGs because they're not.  Westbrook is a horrible decision-maker as the position, and while Rose isn't as bad, he would probably be better suited playing at the 2 next to a spot-up shooter PG.  Westbrook would be considered a much better player if he was a SG.

Yeah, the dreaded 6'3" tweener guard syndrome. It seems like every name that is being involved in this category are 6'3".

Should we put Monta and Eric Gordon in the same category? Maybe Jeremy Lin too?

Jeremy Lin is better off as a PG.  Gordon and Ellis definitely.

How about Dragic and Ben Gordon? You think they'll be superstars at 6'5"?

Steph Curry?

Dragic and Curry are PGs.  BG is not.

That's the whole point.  Rose, Westbrook, both Gordons, Ellis - these guys don't have the decision-making skills to play the PG position.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 06:44:59 AM
Westbrook and Rose.

I hate that we consider these guys PGs because they're not.  Westbrook is a horrible decision-maker as the position, and while Rose isn't as bad, he would probably be better suited playing at the 2 next to a spot-up shooter PG.  Westbrook would be considered a much better player if he was a SG.

Yeah, the dreaded 6'3" tweener guard syndrome. It seems like every name that is being involved in this category are 6'3".

Should we put Monta and Eric Gordon in the same category? Maybe Jeremy Lin too?

Jeremy Lin is better off as a PG.  Gordon and Ellis definitely.

How about Dragic and Ben Gordon? You think they'll be superstars at 6'5"?

Steph Curry?

Dragic and Curry are PGs.  BG is not.

That's the whole point.  Rose, Westbrook, both Gordons, Ellis - these guys don't have the decision-making skills to play the PG position.

I don't see BG at 6'5" will be a superstar though. I think at best he'll be like what Jamal Crawford is now.

Westbrook and Rose are already superstars, no need for the 2 inches.

Monta at 6'5" though, I'm really intrigued. Because he can handle the rock, man. He's athletic enough and super quick. If he's longer, he's probably hard to stop. And he'll probably be a much more decent defender at 6'5". I think he'll be a superstar at 6'5".

Eric Gordon is clawing super-stardom already before the injuries, I think he doesnt need the extra two inches.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: clover on January 14, 2013, 07:03:52 AM
Alternatively, if only all the competition were 2" shorter...
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Celtics4ever on January 14, 2013, 07:06:07 AM
Sully, Leon Powe, and Avery would all have been tougher with say 3" inches.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 07:08:59 AM
Alternatively, if only all the competition were 2" shorter...

We will probably see less dunkfaces.

Let's look t this
LeBron will be 6'6" being guarded by a 6'5" Pierce, not bad.

Wade would be 6'2" being guarded by a 6'0" Bradley, that's not cool.

Rondo would be 5'11"...

Dwight would be 6'9" (or 7"), Kobe is 6'4"

Westbrook and Rose would be even shorter at 6'1" and would still chuck shots.

Durant will be money here, he'll be 6'7" (or 8"), adequate size.
Title: Re: If they only he grew a couple more inches...
Post by: bfrombleacher on January 14, 2013, 07:11:13 AM

a 6'9" Paul Pierce...?

How many MVP's would he win? But he's already a superstar though at 6'7", i don't think he needs the extra two to be one.



Westbrook and Rose are already superstars, no need for the 2 inches.


Doesn't mean the 2 inches won't help :o

Pierce with 2 extra inches is scary.

Rose and Westbrook at 6'5? James Hardens basically?
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 07:12:40 AM
Sully, Leon Powe, and Avery would all have been tougher with say 3" inches.

Yeah, give me some 6'11" Leon Powe.

I bet he won't be traded. That athleticism combined with old school physical play. Still won't be superstar though IMO. Bradley and Sully, on board

With that in mind, how do you think a 7'0" Perk would do? Superstar?
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: 2short on January 14, 2013, 07:13:08 AM
Isn't rondo only 6'1" ? If that is his height I'll take he and rose with a few more inches.
Title: Re: If they only he grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 07:15:20 AM

a 6'9" Paul Pierce...?

How many MVP's would he win? But he's already a superstar though at 6'7", i don't think he needs the extra two to be one.



Westbrook and Rose are already superstars, no need for the 2 inches.


Doesn't mean the 2 inches won't help :o

Pierce with 2 extra inches is scary.

Rose and Westbrook at 6'5? James Hardens basically?

It would help I agree.

All im saying is, they already reached superstardom without the 2 inches. We're looking for players who are not there or closing in there, but will reach it if they are 2 inches taller.

I also have another one. Iggy.

He's a star and a household name, but I think everyone will agree he's no superstar.

But at 6'8", with that athleticism and intangibles. The defense, which now he won't be giving up length when he's locking down 3's. I think he's sure fire All Defensive team every year at 6'8". LeBron would have a hard time against Iggy if Iggy can look at him face to face IMO.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: bfrombleacher on January 14, 2013, 07:23:21 AM
All im saying is, they already reached superstardom without the 2 inches. We're looking for players who are not there or closing in there, but will reach it if they are 2 inches taller.

Point taken.




Just to stir the pot more...

Would Rondo/AI play with as much flare as they do with the extra 2 inches? They seem to go to a whole other level because they're the shortest guy on the floor with a chip on their shoulder.

Hard to explain but if you look on the other end of the spectrum, you have Shaq (and Dwight Howard to some extent i guess). He's everything you'd want in terms of height and size for basketball. If they'd just work that much harder...perhaps he'd be even better.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 07:25:27 AM
Another name needed to be mentioned.

Carl Landry.

He's a proto type 4 playing at around 6'9" (or 8" depends on which site you go).

He'll be a 20-25/10-13 guy if he's 6'11". He's not really a high jumper so the added length could help him. He's already a tenacious rebounder at his height, make him more taller and he'll probably grab a few more.

He'll be a game changer at 6'11". A Max Contract guy, borderline superstar. He needs to improve on defense though.  ;D
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 07:29:35 AM
All im saying is, they already reached superstardom without the 2 inches. We're looking for players who are not there or closing in there, but will reach it if they are 2 inches taller.

Point taken.




Just to stir the pot more...

Would Rondo/AI play with as much flare as they do with the extra 2 inches? They seem to go to a whole other level because they're the shortest guy on the floor with a chip on their shoulder.

Hard to explain but if you look on the other end of the spectrum, you have Shaq (and Dwight Howard to some extent i guess). He's everything you'd want in terms of height and size for basketball. If they'd just work that much harder...perhaps he'd be even better.

I'm not sure if anything will change if AI is 6'2", maybe the shooting percentage would go up a bit because he's on par with defenders?

Rondo at 6'3" would be really deadly. He can maneuver his way in the paint already at 6'1". I'll assume at 6'3" he'll have better court vision. And with longer limbs of course he'll be a much better defender, maybe he won't gamble as much because he's not giving up a ton of size.

I agree with the Shaq thing. Going back to the 2 inches topic, I'd give you a hard worker who I think is BORDERLINE superstar if he's 2 inches taller.

I'm going back with Kenneth Faried. He's a work horse, hustle and everything. I bet he'll be a much better scorer in the paint if he's 6'10", much better defender and an elite shot blocker like Ibaka. Add to the fact that he's pure energy and averaging 10 rebounds a game at 6'8", you wont be able to out rebound this dude at 6'10".

I don't think he'll be a superstar at 6'8" though, as hardworking as he is. I think he'll still be at a disadvantage if he goes post defense against 6'10"-11" guys. 
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: bdm860 on January 14, 2013, 07:50:03 AM
I think Nate Robinson with 2 more inches is a guy who either is:

A solid starter (but not on a contender), similar to one time All Star Dana Barros.

Or maybe even a Vinnie Johnson microwave type super sub.


Then I think of Eddie House, wouldn't make much of a difference, but he would be able to get more than the 1 year contracts he typically got probably.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 07:57:21 AM
I think Nate Robinson with 2 more inches is a guy who either is:

A solid starter (but not on a contender), similar to one time All Star Dana Barros.

Or maybe even a Vinnie Johnson microwave type super sub.


Then I think of Eddie House, wouldn't make much of a difference, but he would be able to get more than the 1 year contracts he typically got probably.

Nate + 2 more inches would be 5'11" right? Kyle Lowry, Ty Lawson range? I disagree that he'll be a superstar, i don't think he has it, but I agree that he'll be a solid starter for every team. I think he'll be taken more seriously if he's bordering 6'0"

I think Eddie House would still be the same at 6'3".
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Who on January 14, 2013, 08:05:59 AM
Carl Landry is the best name I have seen in this thread. He'd be a terrific player with a little more size. One of the best power forwards in the league.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: slamtheking on January 14, 2013, 08:08:47 AM
had a disturbing thought what this thread was about and glad to see it's a totally different topic
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Celtics4ever on January 14, 2013, 08:15:58 AM
I had to bite my tongue too when I saw it, was this started by a wife?  JK
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Who on January 14, 2013, 08:16:33 AM
Will Bynum would be an interesting one.

I think he'd be a 20ppg threat with 8-10apg. Tough defense too.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: PhoSita on January 14, 2013, 08:29:23 AM
Zach Randolph / Al Jefferson.  Could be much more effective defensively and even harder to guard.  Both could play at center and score 25+ a game while gobbling boards.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 14, 2013, 08:31:15 AM
What about Reggie Evans with two more inches? Still no offense but he could be averaging something like 16 boards and 3 blocks a game with 2 more inches.

If OJ Mayo was 6 foot 6 instead of 6 foot 4 I think he would be pretty dominate as well. Already a great scorer. Those 2 extra inches would make him that more dangerous going to the basket.

Also surprised that no ones mentioned Big Baby Davis... Superstar, I dont know because the bad shot selection would still be there...But with two more inches and still the same mobility in the post, then take away the amount of shots he gets blocked.

And as a throw back. Two more inches of Ben Wallace woulda been fillllthy.

Bradley and Sully would be the most interesting of our current squad
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: PhoSita on January 14, 2013, 08:34:03 AM
What about Reggie Evans with two more inches? Still no offense but he could be averaging something like 16 boards and 3 blocks a game with 2 more inches.

If OJ Mayo was 6 foot 6 instead of 6 foot 4 I think he would be pretty dominate as well. Already a great scorer. Those 2 extra inches would make him that more dangerous going to the basket.

Also surprised that no ones mentioned Big Baby Davis... Superstar, I dont know because the bad shot selection would still be there...But with two more inches and still the same mobility in the post, then take away the amount of shots he gets blocked.

And as a throw back. Two more inches of Ben Wallace woulda been fillllthy.

Bradley and Sully would be the most interesting of our current squad

A 6'10, 6'11'' Glen Davis would not be a superstar.  Definitely quite a bit better, but still not a superstar.

Ben Wallace would have been even more of an All-Time great if he were a couple inches taller.  Crazy.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 14, 2013, 08:42:14 AM
What about Reggie Evans with two more inches? Still no offense but he could be averaging something like 16 boards and 3 blocks a game with 2 more inches.

If OJ Mayo was 6 foot 6 instead of 6 foot 4 I think he would be pretty dominate as well. Already a great scorer. Those 2 extra inches would make him that more dangerous going to the basket.

Also surprised that no ones mentioned Big Baby Davis... Superstar, I dont know because the bad shot selection would still be there...But with two more inches and still the same mobility in the post, then take away the amount of shots he gets blocked.

And as a throw back. Two more inches of Ben Wallace woulda been fillllthy.

Bradley and Sully would be the most interesting of our current squad

A 6'10, 6'11'' Glen Davis would not be a superstar.  Definitely quite a bit better, but still not a superstar.

Ben Wallace would have been even more of an All-Time great if he were a couple inches taller.  Crazy.

Yeah I still don't think Big Baby would be dominate but he would certainly put up better offensive numbers.

And I still can't get over the thought of Wallace with two more inches.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: bfrombleacher on January 14, 2013, 08:46:54 AM
What about Reggie Evans with two more inches? Still no offense but he could be averaging something like 16 boards and 3 blocks a game with 2 more inches.

If OJ Mayo was 6 foot 6 instead of 6 foot 4 I think he would be pretty dominate as well. Already a great scorer. Those 2 extra inches would make him that more dangerous going to the basket.

Also surprised that no ones mentioned Big Baby Davis... Superstar, I dont know because the bad shot selection would still be there...But with two more inches and still the same mobility in the post, then take away the amount of shots he gets blocked.

And as a throw back. Two more inches of Ben Wallace woulda been fillllthy.

Bradley and Sully would be the most interesting of our current squad

A 6'10, 6'11'' Glen Davis would not be a superstar.  Definitely quite a bit better, but still not a superstar.

Ben Wallace would have been even more of an All-Time great if he were a couple inches taller.  Crazy.

Yeah I still don't think Big Baby would be dominate but he would certainly put up better offensive numbers.

And I still can't get over the thought of Wallace with two more inches.

Isn't Big Baby closer to 6'7?

6'11 Davis might be scary. Again, what Andre Blatche should have been and could possibly still be.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 14, 2013, 08:51:50 AM
What about Reggie Evans with two more inches? Still no offense but he could be averaging something like 16 boards and 3 blocks a game with 2 more inches.

If OJ Mayo was 6 foot 6 instead of 6 foot 4 I think he would be pretty dominate as well. Already a great scorer. Those 2 extra inches would make him that more dangerous going to the basket.

Also surprised that no ones mentioned Big Baby Davis... Superstar, I dont know because the bad shot selection would still be there...But with two more inches and still the same mobility in the post, then take away the amount of shots he gets blocked.

And as a throw back. Two more inches of Ben Wallace woulda been fillllthy.

Bradley and Sully would be the most interesting of our current squad

A 6'10, 6'11'' Glen Davis would not be a superstar.  Definitely quite a bit better, but still not a superstar.

Ben Wallace would have been even more of an All-Time great if he were a couple inches taller.  Crazy.

Yeah I still don't think Big Baby would be dominate but he would certainly put up better offensive numbers.

And I still can't get over the thought of Wallace with two more inches.

Isn't Big Baby closer to 6'7?

6'11 Davis might be scary. Again, what Andre Blatche should have been and could possibly still be.

I think A 6 11 Davis would be much much much better than anything Blatche could ever be.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: mgent on January 14, 2013, 08:53:39 AM
Josh Smith
Boozer
David West
Marc Gasol
AK47
Ibaka
Zach Randolph

Those are the only ones that stick out to me.  Two inches isn't the difference between superstars and non-superstars, especially with perimeter players.  Maybe Tony Parker or Steph Curry.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: moiso on January 14, 2013, 08:53:51 AM
Anyone at least 6'2" and attempts to defend or rebound would be much better with an extra 2".  I don't think it would make much difference with short points like Chris Paul or nonrebounding bigs like Bargnani.

I agree that Leon and Bass would be helped trememdously. 
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: bfrombleacher on January 14, 2013, 08:58:26 AM
What about Reggie Evans with two more inches? Still no offense but he could be averaging something like 16 boards and 3 blocks a game with 2 more inches.

If OJ Mayo was 6 foot 6 instead of 6 foot 4 I think he would be pretty dominate as well. Already a great scorer. Those 2 extra inches would make him that more dangerous going to the basket.

Also surprised that no ones mentioned Big Baby Davis... Superstar, I dont know because the bad shot selection would still be there...But with two more inches and still the same mobility in the post, then take away the amount of shots he gets blocked.

And as a throw back. Two more inches of Ben Wallace woulda been fillllthy.

Bradley and Sully would be the most interesting of our current squad

A 6'10, 6'11'' Glen Davis would not be a superstar.  Definitely quite a bit better, but still not a superstar.

Ben Wallace would have been even more of an All-Time great if he were a couple inches taller.  Crazy.

Yeah I still don't think Big Baby would be dominate but he would certainly put up better offensive numbers.

And I still can't get over the thought of Wallace with two more inches.

Isn't Big Baby closer to 6'7?

6'11 Davis might be scary. Again, what Andre Blatche should have been and could possibly still be.

I think A 6 11 Davis would be much much much better than anything Blatche could ever be.

On the flip side, BBD's defense would be scary. It's darn good as it is right now.

Product of the Garnett school of big men. Too bad we weren't able to harvest our fruits of labor.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Who on January 14, 2013, 08:59:30 AM
What about Reggie Evans with two more inches? Still no offense but he could be averaging something like 16 boards and 3 blocks a game with 2 more inches.

If OJ Mayo was 6 foot 6 instead of 6 foot 4 I think he would be pretty dominate as well. Already a great scorer. Those 2 extra inches would make him that more dangerous going to the basket.

Also surprised that no ones mentioned Big Baby Davis... Superstar, I dont know because the bad shot selection would still be there...But with two more inches and still the same mobility in the post, then take away the amount of shots he gets blocked.

And as a throw back. Two more inches of Ben Wallace woulda been fillllthy.

Bradley and Sully would be the most interesting of our current squad

A 6'10, 6'11'' Glen Davis would not be a superstar.  Definitely quite a bit better, but still not a superstar.

Ben Wallace would have been even more of an All-Time great if he were a couple inches taller.  Crazy.

Yeah I still don't think Big Baby would be dominate but he would certainly put up better offensive numbers.

And I still can't get over the thought of Wallace with two more inches.

Isn't Big Baby closer to 6'7?

6'11 Davis might be scary. Again, what Andre Blatche should have been and could possibly still be.

I think A 6 11 Davis would be much much much better than anything Blatche could ever be.

I think a 6-11 Big Baby would be pretty similar to Demarcus Cousins.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Fafnir on January 14, 2013, 09:03:46 AM
On the flip side, BBD's defense would be scary. It's darn good as it is right now.

Product of the Garnett school of big men. Too bad we weren't able to harvest our fruits of labor.
He defense the past two years is no different that it was his last few years with the C's.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 09:04:49 AM
Thought of another name.

Thad Young at 6'10"?

That's a keeper.

Like the list mgent gave outside of Randolph and Ibaka.

Randolph I think is already a superstar, Ibaka even at 7'0" I think will still be the same.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Fafnir on January 14, 2013, 09:04:58 AM
What about Reggie Evans with two more inches? Still no offense but he could be averaging something like 16 boards and 3 blocks a game with 2 more inches.

If OJ Mayo was 6 foot 6 instead of 6 foot 4 I think he would be pretty dominate as well. Already a great scorer. Those 2 extra inches would make him that more dangerous going to the basket.

Also surprised that no ones mentioned Big Baby Davis... Superstar, I dont know because the bad shot selection would still be there...But with two more inches and still the same mobility in the post, then take away the amount of shots he gets blocked.

And as a throw back. Two more inches of Ben Wallace woulda been fillllthy.

Bradley and Sully would be the most interesting of our current squad

A 6'10, 6'11'' Glen Davis would not be a superstar.  Definitely quite a bit better, but still not a superstar.

Ben Wallace would have been even more of an All-Time great if he were a couple inches taller.  Crazy.

Yeah I still don't think Big Baby would be dominate but he would certainly put up better offensive numbers.

And I still can't get over the thought of Wallace with two more inches.

Isn't Big Baby closer to 6'7?

6'11 Davis might be scary. Again, what Andre Blatche should have been and could possibly still be.

I think A 6 11 Davis would be much much much better than anything Blatche could ever be.

I think a 6-11 Big Baby would be pretty similar to Demarcus Cousins.
Yeah, so much of his rebounding/defensive woes are due to his size and short reach. And he's still a good offensive rebounder when put into that role.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: bfrombleacher on January 14, 2013, 09:07:09 AM
On the flip side, BBD's defense would be scary. It's darn good as it is right now.

Product of the Garnett school of big men. Too bad we weren't able to harvest our fruits of labor.
He defense the past two years is no different that it was his last few years with the C's.

I think he's solid right now right? Defense has never been a problem if I recall.

6'11, mobile, good instincts. Dang.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 09:12:00 AM
Thought of another name.

Thad Young at 6'10"?

That's a keeper.

Like the list mgent gave outside of Randolph and Ibaka.

Randolph I think is already a superstar, Ibaka even at 7'0" I think will still be the same.

On second thought, I'll back pedal.

Thad is too limited to be a superstar, even at 6'10". Inconsitent jumper, no post moves.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: StartOrien on January 14, 2013, 09:17:38 AM
Chuck Hayes is a name that certainly stands out.

At 6'6, he's still one of the post defenders in the game. While he'd still be undersized, I can't imagine what an extra 2 inches would do for him.

Luis Scola is another guy that I didn't see get mentioned, though I guess he's just a lesser example of Zach Randolph.

Wonder how Dwyane Wade's career would turn out. Would an extra two inches at least prolong his career? at 6'6 he's probably not taking the same kind of hits he has throughout his career. Though he'd probably not be quite as quick.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: wdleehi on January 14, 2013, 09:31:03 AM
AI.  If he had the size of a true SG, he wouldn't of had so many bad shots.

Muggsy Bogues.  If he could have the career he had at 5'3, imagine what it could have been a 6'



Gheorghe Mureșan - I just want to see an 8 foot player.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: BballTim on January 14, 2013, 09:40:12 AM


  Big Al and Milsap.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Chris on January 14, 2013, 10:10:25 AM


  Big Al and Milsap.

The problem with Big Al is that he doesn't have the mindset of a defender, and I am not sure another couple inches would change that.  Although it would make him even more dominant offensively.

If Milsap were a bit taller though, that would be scary good. 
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: indeedproceed on January 14, 2013, 10:13:27 AM
Ty Lawson, Darren Collison, Avery Bradley. I think all 3 of those guys are All-Stars with 2 more inches.

Kevin Love might just be an MVP candidate.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 10:54:53 AM


  Big Al and Milsap.

Cant believe I forgot about Millsap.

He'll be a superstar for sure at 6'10". He'll probably be more confident going in the post. He'll be a better defender and a matchup nightmare because of his agility and quickness and now, a 6'10" frame. Definitely a superstar.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: azzenfrost on January 14, 2013, 11:15:57 AM
Hmm... What to do with a 7 foot Kevin Garnett. The possibilities...
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: CFAN38 on January 14, 2013, 11:30:11 AM
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    Alternatively, if only all the competition were 2" shorter...


We will probably see less dunkfaces.

Let's look t this
LeBron will be 6'6" being guarded by a 6'5" Pierce, not bad.

Wade would be 6'2" being guarded by a 6'0" Bradley, that's not cool.

Rondo would be 5'11"...

Dwight would be 6'9" (or 7"), Kobe is 6'4"

Westbrook and Rose would be even shorter at 6'1" and would still chuck shots.

Durant will be money here, he'll be 6'7" (or 8"), adequate size.

Howard is 6'10 in shoes so he would be 6'8
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: wdleehi on January 14, 2013, 11:31:00 AM
Hmm... What to do with a 7 foot Kevin Garnett. The possibilities...


So you want to see what would happen if he got shorter?
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 14, 2013, 11:33:05 AM
Skee-Lo.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 14, 2013, 11:34:35 AM
Hmm... What to do with a 7 foot Kevin Garnett. The possibilities...

Isn't he a 7 footer who just wanted to be 6'11"?

Plus he's already a superstar, he doesnt count.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 14, 2013, 11:41:54 AM
Skee-Lo.

"I wish I was a little bit taller?"
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 14, 2013, 11:49:23 AM
Skee-Lo.

"I wish I was a little bit taller?"

Yup - if he only grew a couple more inches he could be a baller, have a girl and call her, get a six-four Impala, and clean up his hoodrat problem to boot.  Seems like a pretty big improvement to me.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: clover on January 14, 2013, 12:38:08 PM
Alternatively, if only all the competition were 2" shorter...

We will probably see less dunkfaces.

Let's look t this
LeBron will be 6'6" being guarded by a 6'5" Pierce, not bad.

Wade would be 6'2" being guarded by a 6'0" Bradley, that's not cool.

Rondo would be 5'11"...

Dwight would be 6'9" (or 7"), Kobe is 6'4"

Westbrook and Rose would be even shorter at 6'1" and would still chuck shots.

Durant will be money here, he'll be 6'7" (or 8"), adequate size.

Especially if Durant were just squished down the two inches, so he were a little more solidly built--could be at least as good as he is now.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Chelm on January 14, 2013, 02:11:49 PM
Alternatively, if only all the competition were 2" shorter...
Wouldn't it be easier to simply raise the hoop 2"?
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: wahz on January 14, 2013, 03:02:14 PM
I think everyone knows my obsession with Sully and me wishing him to grow a couple more inches, as I think he'll be dominant at 6'11". It got me thinking...

Just for conversation (it's slow at work), for the fun of it, which player/s who's not a superstar right now do you guys think that, if he grew 2 more inches, would be at a superstar level in the NBA. Any player, retired or current.

My top 5.

David Lee - I can't imagine how many more rebounds a game this guy can have if he's 6'11". And he'll be more deadly in the post.

Andre Drummond - although it's still pretty early, a 7 foot Drummond might be the next coming of Dikembe. So athletic, long and great defensive instincts. Two more inches of length and he'll be a defensive wall for the Pistons.

Al Horford - I think this is pretty self explanatory. Horford at 7 feet is probably a top 3 Center, at least?


Avery Bradley - Why go far. His ball pressure against PG's is already elite, if he's 6'4" and will be able to defend wings as well without giving up too much length, we're looking at a multiple All NBA Defensive Team guy.

Kenneth Faried - Good Lord, the things this guy does, now make him 6'10". Yeah right?

What do you guys think?

So doesn't it look like Sullinger is taller than baby Davis? They measured exactly the same according to draft express. The point is that I think he actually MAY still be growing. I want to see him next to Baby and then also next to Dwight. Dwight was 6' 10.25" in shoes
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: The4Time2Doctor0 on January 14, 2013, 03:11:18 PM
thats what she said
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Snakehead on January 14, 2013, 03:16:45 PM
Hmm... What to do with a 7 foot Kevin Garnett. The possibilities...


So you want to see what would happen if he got shorter?

KG being 7 feet tall is strangely unknown, even among C's fans.  I know he hides it but still.

And also a star so I guess if that's not what this threads about fine, but if Dwight Howard was 2" taller and actually 7' tall that'd be a real nightmare (another strangely unknown NBA height).

As far as lesser players, Ty Lawson stands out to me.  Our own Jared Sullinger would be dominant at 6'11".  I still have really high hopes for him and he plays well in the post on offense and defense for his height, but imagine...
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Quinn on January 14, 2013, 03:20:19 PM
Nate Robinson
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: mgent on January 14, 2013, 03:24:20 PM
Thought of another name.

Thad Young at 6'10"?

That's a keeper.

Like the list mgent gave outside of Randolph and Ibaka.

Randolph I think is already a superstar, Ibaka even at 7'0" I think will still be the same.
If Iguodala isn't a "superstar," then I wouldn't say Randolph is.  And Ibaka is one of the best shot blockers the league has seen in a while at 23, I wouldn't underestimate what he could do with 2 more inches.  He also has an excellent leaping ability, at 7 foot he could be a very dangerous dunker and rebounder.

Milsap, Lawson, and Collison were all guys I thought of, the latter two especially I don't think have "it" yet.  They rely almost purely on speed and shooting to score their points, and don't do a lot other than that.  Plus with two inches they'd still be undersized anyway.  I think people are putting a little too much stock into height.  If you're talking 7'6" that's one thing, but most of the time it's the player not the body.  Ben Wallace wasn't outblocking guys twice his size out of luck.  Same with Rodman and rebounding.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: apc on January 14, 2013, 03:25:58 PM
With a few more inches...I would be Tall Dark and handsome,
now i'm just Dark and Handsome.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: xmuscularghandix on January 14, 2013, 03:27:49 PM
Blake Griffin is a SUPER star at 6'10", but if that dude was 7 feet still doing all that stuff he'd rival Shaq.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: ScottHow on January 14, 2013, 03:43:27 PM
I'm still holding out that Sully will wake up one morning and be 6'11"
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Snakehead on January 14, 2013, 03:59:49 PM
Blake Griffin is a SUPER star at 6'10", but if that dude was 7 feet still doing all that stuff he'd rival Shaq.

Shaq?  Give Blake the height and they are still totally different players.  Blake Griffin hardly has a single post move (still a very good player, don't get me wrong).


With a few more inches...I would be Tall Dark and handsome,
now i'm just Dark and Handsome.

TP  ;D
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: AB_Celtic on January 14, 2013, 04:06:23 PM
Nate Robinson

He would be a beast if he was 6'0

I'm still holding out that Sully will wake up one morning and be 6'11"

Haha TP
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Snakehead on January 14, 2013, 04:10:34 PM
Nate Robinson

He would be a beast if he was 6'0


At best he's Baron Davis.  Who had some really good years no doubt but being taller wouldn't improve his shot selection or make him a smarter player.

Dude should have stuck to football and played Corner IMO.
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Moranis on January 14, 2013, 04:10:52 PM
Growing a couple of inches might actually be a negative for a lot of players.  Do you think Rodman would have had the work ethic he had if he was a couple of inches taller?
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: Smokeeye123 on January 14, 2013, 04:23:08 PM
If Bradley was 7-1 he'd be the best Center in the league.

If Shaq was 6-3 he'd be a great pointguard and so much faster.

Am I doing this right?...
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on January 14, 2013, 04:40:52 PM
we are built they way we are for a reason
adding or taken away physical attributes
make us less than..not more
Title: Re: If they only grew a couple more inches...
Post by: KG_ended_Bias on January 14, 2013, 06:26:59 PM
Think of a 7'ft. Magic Johnson playing PG or a 7'ft. Bird able to play all 3 frontline positions! We wouldn't be saying Micheal is the best all-time we'll be talking Magic or Bird!