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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: esel1000 on January 11, 2013, 01:05:38 PM
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The more I think about it, and the more I watch him, the more I realize that J.J Hickson is truly the perfect player for this team and would help us immensely.
He's having a year in Portland, currently averages double digit rebounds. However, there are rumors (I think?) that the Blazers wouldn't be against moving him so they can increase playing time for younger guys.
The other benefit to going after Hickson is we may be able to pry him without giving up too much. This team is really beginning to play into its own and I don't like the idea of giving up a lot of pieces for a pf/c, especially with Sully playing so well.
My idea for Hickson is Bass and a first. Salaries may be a little off but Bass and Hickson make around the same amount so it could be fixed.
Why does it make sense?
For Portland- lets them increase minutes for their younger guys and get a scorer off the bench. Right now, the Blazers bench is awful (pretty sure Jared Jeffries backs up Aldrich?). Bass off the bench for them would be instant scoring when Aldrich is on the bench.
For us- Another physical rebounder that gives us options! With Hickson, we could start him at C and move Kg back to pf. Hickson gives our first unit rebounding. Sully comes off the bench and gives the second unit rebounding. Rebounding solved. And when kg sits, imagine Sully and Hickson together? bye bye rebounding and toughness problems.
Thoughts?
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He is another version of what the Celtics have. A 6'9 PF.
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Hickson's rebounding is inflated by playing next to Aldridge. I have my doubts that his defensive board work this year is sustainable or would translate if he's put next to another good defensive rebounder.
He's a good offensive player at the C position, needs to score to have a positive impact though. He's not a good defender though, both individually and in help defense.
Basically a better version of Wilcox.
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He is another version of what the Celtics have. A 6'9 PF.
Much tougher and more versatile player than the celtics already have (with the exception of sully). Much better rebounder than Bass. Blazers currently start the guy at C and he's thriving
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He is another version of what the Celtics have. A 6'9 PF.
Much tougher and more versatile player than the celtics already have (with the exception of sully). Much better rebounder than Bass. Blazers currently start the guy at C and he's thriving
How is he versatile?
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Hickson's rebounding is inflated by playing next to Aldridge. I have my doubts that his defensive board work this year is sustainable or would translate if he's put next to another good defensive rebounder.
He's a good offensive player at the C position, needs to score to have a positive impact though. He's not a good defender though, both individually and in help defense.
Basically a better version of Wilcox.
Possibly, though it could change in our system. It's one of those cases where you don't really know unless you try. I think paired up with KG he would still be a good defensive rebounder, KG's rebounding rate has been steadily decreasing
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He is another version of what the Celtics have. A 6'9 PF.
Much tougher and more versatile player than the celtics already have (with the exception of sully). Much better rebounder than Bass. Blazers currently start the guy at C and he's thriving
He rebounds more.
Still doesn't defend the paint.
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He is another version of what the Celtics have. A 6'9 PF.
Much tougher and more versatile player than the celtics already have (with the exception of sully). Much better rebounder than Bass. Blazers currently start the guy at C and he's thriving
How is he versatile?
Versatile may have been the wrong word. I just meant that he could play two positions effectively.
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He is another version of what the Celtics have. A 6'9 PF.
Much tougher and more versatile player than the celtics already have (with the exception of sully). Much better rebounder than Bass. Blazers currently start the guy at C and he's thriving
How is he versatile?
Versatile may have been the wrong word. I just meant that he could play two positions effectively.
Not really, he was pretty awful at PF overall, killed floor spacing if the other frontcourt player couldn't shoot.
He'd fit fine next to KG (similar to Aldridge)
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Hickson's rebounding is inflated by playing next to Aldridge. I have my doubts that his defensive board work this year is sustainable or would translate if he's put next to another good defensive rebounder.
He's a good offensive player at the C position, needs to score to have a positive impact though. He's not a good defender though, both individually and in help defense.
Basically a better version of Wilcox.
Possibly, though it could change in our system. It's one of those cases where you don't really know unless you try. I think paired up with KG he would still be a good defensive rebounder, KG's rebounding rate has been steadily decreasing
Yeah, though most of the decline is on the offensive glass, his DReb% has held pretty steady overall.
Still this is by far the highest defensive glass stretch of Hickson's career. I'm not counting on it.
Meanwhile defensively he's a mess, and I wouldn't be shocked if his team rebounding was poor too.
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He is another version of what the Celtics have. A 6'9 PF.
Much tougher and more versatile player than the celtics already have (with the exception of sully). Much better rebounder than Bass. Blazers currently start the guy at C and he's thriving
just because they do doesn't mean we should. I'd prefer a center of legit-center size. you know, someone that could actually look KG eye-to-eye instead of looking up to him ;)
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He is another version of what the Celtics have. A 6'9 PF.
Much tougher and more versatile player than the celtics already have (with the exception of sully). Much better rebounder than Bass. Blazers currently start the guy at C and he's thriving
How is he versatile?
he knows some Hebrew?
:P
During the 2011 NBA lockout, he joined Bnei HaSharon, which plays in Ligat HaAl.
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JJ Hickson = Chris Wilcox 2.0
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Portland should dump Hickson for whatever they can get for him.
He is not part of the long term solution there and he is about to become a vastly overpaid player this summer. Portland should cut ties with him as soon as possible for whatever assets they can pick up for him.
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Portland should dump Hickson for whatever they can get for him.
He is not part of the long term solution there and he is about to become a vastly overpaid player this summer. Portland should cut ties with him as soon as possible for whatever assets they can pick up for him.
If Lillard/Wes/Batum/Aldridge is the core, what should they add?
Very thin beyond those four players. Is Meyers Leonard the franchise 5 going forward?
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Nope! couldn't see him getting minutes over sullinger or bass or any team with legit hopes...I remember reading he'd rather play on a non playoff team so he could get minutes and put up numbers as opposed to earlier in his career...he's a loser
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He's playing well this year but he isn't the defensive minded center we need.
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JJ Hickson -- because Sullinger, Bass (and even Green) are just not enough...
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Portland should dump Hickson for whatever they can get for him.
He is not part of the long term solution there and he is about to become a vastly overpaid player this summer. Portland should cut ties with him as soon as possible for whatever assets they can pick up for him.
If Lillard/Wes/Batum/Aldridge is the core, what should they add?
Very thin beyond those four players. Is Meyers Leonard the franchise 5 going forward?
For Hickson? They are not going to get anything of serious value for him. A low first round pick. Something like that.
As for their core = Wes Matthews isn't a core player. The other three guys are core players. So they have a PG and two forwards in place. So, the Blazers are still looking for long term solutions at SG and C.
Meyers Leonard? Maybe. It's too early to say. Showing some promise but it's only promise at this stage. Even if he comes good, he is still a few years away from being what they need him to be.
From the way they pursued Hibbert in the summer, it looks like Portland's first priority is landing a center. I expect they'll continue to search for that player. Someone to anchor their defense alongside Aldridge.
I don't think they should be worried at all about their weak bench at this point. They need to get the core of their team sorted first. They are still at least one high level starter (maybe two) away from being where they need to be. Then they can worry about their depth.
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He is another version of what the Celtics have. A 6'9 PF.
Agree. He'd not be an impact acquisition. I'd swap him for Bass, but the Blazers wouldn't.
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The more I think about it, and the more I watch him, the more I realize that J.J Hickson is truly the perfect player for this team and would help us immensely.
He's having a year in Portland, currently averages double digit rebounds. However, there are rumors (I think?) that the Blazers wouldn't be against moving him so they can increase playing time for younger guys.
Thoughts?
If they say that they want to get rid of a 24 year old center to make more time for younger guys you can be pretty sure that's not the whole story.
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I have a bad feeling this is a guy playing for a contract and in an ideal situation. Not that JJ is a bad player he just is playing above himself this year.
At least when he played for the Cavs i thought of him as more of a 4/3 maybe this has changed but I know he isnt the 4/5 shot blocker we need.
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Portland should dump Hickson for whatever they can get for him.
He is not part of the long term solution there and he is about to become a vastly overpaid player this summer. Portland should cut ties with him as soon as possible for whatever assets they can pick up for him.
I agree with this. Nice high energy player but is nothing more than a role player on a contender.
C's need a rim protector above all else.
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Get real he is always underperforming. What a dud.
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Might as well title the thread: "J.J. Hickson: The Player the Blazers Aren't Going to Trade to the Celtics"