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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: chambers on January 09, 2013, 07:36:49 AM
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Better than anything I've seen so far, quality isn't great though.
Kg swears he didn't say anything about Carmelo's family...
Carmelo claims he crossed the line.
I honestly wouldn't care if he did or not. MJ and Reggie used to talk about players families.
Moral of the story; Melo is an eternal wannabe. Never gonna win an MVP, never gonna win a championship. Always second fiddle to the Lakers in the West and the Celtics and Heat in the East.
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/09/kevin-garnett-carmelo-anthony-fight-video-knicks-celtics/
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Better than anything I've seen so far, quality isn't great though.
Kg swears he didn't say anything about Carmelo's family...
Carmelo claims he crossed the line.
I honestly wouldn't care if he did or not. MJ and Reggie used to talk about players families.
Moral of the story; Melo is an eternal wannabe. Never gonna win an MVP, never gonna win a championship. Always second fiddle to the Lakers in the West and the Celtics and Heat in the East.
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/09/kevin-garnett-carmelo-anthony-fight-video-knicks-celtics/
maybe Melo should see if he can change his name to "Big Baby"
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whatever KG said worked...Melo was mentally GONE
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whatever KG said worked...Melo was mentally GONE
True. Carmelo 's brain checked out, his focus was wasted by something , probally KG/Green were shutting him down had him mad . KG saw he was getting rattled by bricks, defense and calls....so he just decided to finish him off with smack. LoL ...wow...yeah Carmelo just folded mentally.
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whatever KG said worked...Melo was mentally GONE
He really doesn't seem to understand what it takes to win.
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Three things I want today.
1. Celtics win
2. Melo suspension
3. Lakers loss
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Three things I want today.
1. Celtics win
2. Melo suspension
3. Lakers loss
agree!!!!
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Three things I want today.
1. Celtics win
2. Melo suspension
3. Lakers loss
agree!!!!
Thirded.
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I'm not going to defend Melo, but if KG did say something about Melo's wife, that's beyond the pale and unacceptable.
In a Mother's Day game in 1999, KG said something to Tim Duncan about his mother
The story goes that on May 9, 1999 (Mother’s Day), Tim Duncan’s Spurs played Kevin Garnett’s Timberwolves in the first round of the NBA playoffs. During that game, Garnett, who is known for his incessant need to trash talk and intense dislike for any sort of decency did what he does best. He went too far. Just as Tim Duncan was going to take two free throws, Garnett barked at him: “Happy Mother’s Day, mother****er!” Tim Duncan’s mother famously died of breast cancer the day before his 14th birthday
Wives, mothers, family and kids are not acceptable taunting topics, for someone on the team I love, or anyone else in the league. That kind of thing should lead to ejection from the game, at least. I have no problem with a player getting into an opponent's head, but there's a limit to what is acceptable, unless we want to see actual fist fighting in games, like in hockey.
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I'm not going to defend Melo, but if KG did say something about Melo's wife, that's beyond the pale and unacceptable.
In a Mother's Day game in 1999, KG said something to Tim Duncan about his mother
The story goes that on May 9, 1999 (Mother’s Day), Tim Duncan’s Spurs played Kevin Garnett’s Timberwolves in the first round of the NBA playoffs. During that game, Garnett, who is known for his incessant need to trash talk and intense dislike for any sort of decency did what he does best. He went too far. Just as Tim Duncan was going to take two free throws, Garnett barked at him: “Happy Mother’s Day, mother****er!” Tim Duncan’s mother famously died of breast cancer the day before his 14th birthday
Wives, mothers, family and kids are not acceptable taunting topics, for someone on the team I love, or anyone else in the league. That kind of thing should lead to ejection from the game, at least. I have no problem with a player getting into an opponent's head, but there's a limit to what is acceptable, unless we want to see actual fist fighting in games, like in hockey.
I found the alleged Lala quote funny, its such a ridiculous thing to say. but I agree that the KG/Duncan interaction was way out of line. I understand the heat of battle, but there's no need or place for such a low blow.
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^ If it's not against the rules, it's acceptable. This isn't the National Best-friends Association. KG is going to go over the lines of decency as long as he can get away with it, particularly when it causes Marshmelo to wilt.
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^ If it's not against the rules, it's acceptable. This isn't the National Best-friends Association. KG is going to go over the lines of decency as long as he can get away with it, particularly when it causes Marshmelo to wilt.
yeah the supposed Lala statement was actually just funny. If that is all it takes to get Melo's panties in a bind then I am all for KG doing that.
The other one about Duncan's mom, well that seems to cross the line. To me it is a lot worse than the Lala thing.
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^ If it's not against the rules, it's acceptable. This isn't the National Best-friends Association. KG is going to go over the lines of decency as long as he can get away with it, particularly when it causes Marshmelo to wilt.
I agree, nothing's off limits IMO.
Are you guys saying it's okay to say something to try and rattle a player as long as it doesn't offend him? What? Why would anything be off limits when it comes to trying to get a psychological advantage?
How about Jason Terry on LeBron? (http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/jason_terry_trash_talking_has_gotten_into_lebron_james_head/4996663)
Now we know why Lebron James ISN'T HAVING A GOOD NBA FINAL, and it's all thanks to Dallas Mavericks star Jason Terry. (Media Take Out) is reporting that since the start of the 2011 NBA Finals, Jason Terry's EXTREME comments to Lebron James has thrown the Miami Heat star off his game. Reports are that Terry is talking about how Lebron James's girlfriend, Savannah is sleeping around with NBA players (Click Here to report that rumor). Also he's going so far as to say he wants to [sleep with] Lebron's mother. It's to the point that Lebron James may believe the rumors of his girlfriend sleeping around behind his back.
Nothing wrong with trash talk.
Would you rather KG not say anything and the Knicks ended up winning?
Would you rather Terry not have said anything to LeBron and LeBron to have 2 rings now?
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I'm not going to defend Melo, but if KG did say something about Melo's wife, that's beyond the pale and unacceptable.
In a Mother's Day game in 1999, KG said something to Tim Duncan about his mother
The story goes that on May 9, 1999 (Mother’s Day), Tim Duncan’s Spurs played Kevin Garnett’s Timberwolves in the first round of the NBA playoffs. During that game, Garnett, who is known for his incessant need to trash talk and intense dislike for any sort of decency did what he does best. He went too far. Just as Tim Duncan was going to take two free throws, Garnett barked at him: “Happy Mother’s Day, mother****er!” Tim Duncan’s mother famously died of breast cancer the day before his 14th birthday
Wives, mothers, family and kids are not acceptable taunting topics, for someone on the team I love, or anyone else in the league. That kind of thing should lead to ejection from the game, at least. I have no problem with a player getting into an opponent's head, but there's a limit to what is acceptable, unless we want to see actual fist fighting in games, like in hockey.
NOPE ...not at all..
This sort of whining by CHUMPMELO ..BOO HOO ...people called me names , talked about my mooma is so childish.Its funny and part of the game . During a basketball game is Carmelos mind so weak.. why is he even listening or giving a flip about what the other team says? Thats laughable. REALLY ...????
So Whats next ...You want to have a "HALL MONITIOR" and have the GOVERMENT involved FBI or CIA ;D
Do you want mics and camera in their bedrooms too?
You want KG to write a 1000 times " I LOVE MY ENEMY" on the black board. ;D
KG runs his mouth , I love it and think its great !!! More the better ( just not to the refs)...hee hee....yeah , If I was playing I'd be talking smack too as I walked by the other coach....I wouldn't give anybody a break...they are the enemy... ? most fans love it anyway. ;D
I'm sure Bird and his foes talked sweet to each other ::)
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^ If it's not against the rules, it's acceptable. This isn't the National Best-friends Association. KG is going to go over the lines of decency as long as he can get away with it, particularly when it causes Marshmelo to wilt.
Talking about someone's dead mother is terrible. I don't care the circumstances. Its a low blow. If it was any player besides KG or another non-Celtic we wouldn't be debating it. Imagine if Kobe Bryant said the same thing tl Tim Duncan. We'd be calling him a classless jerk.
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^ If it's not against the rules, it's acceptable. This isn't the National Best-friends Association. KG is going to go over the lines of decency as long as he can get away with it, particularly when it causes Marshmelo to wilt.
Talking about someone's dead mother is terrible. I don't care the circumstances. Its a low blow. If it was any player besides KG or another non-Celtic we wouldn't be debating it. Imagine if Kobe Bryant said the same thing tl Tim Duncan. We'd be calling him a classless jerk.
The only sources I've seen for the KG talking about Timmy Duncan's mother rumor start with "the story goes that . . . "
If I were to read a quote from Duncan himself, KG, or even anybody else who was on the floor with them at the time that confirms this, I might be more inclined to believe.
Can anyone say; "urban legend."
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Unless there are rules about what people can say, I can't fault players for going all out in their trash-talking.
Since the NBA is a workplace, it would be reasonable to have rules restricting trash talk topics. But considering the competitive nature of the job, it seems like something to be expected.
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Here's how the NY Daily News is reporting it:
Carmelo Anthony lost his cool after Boston Celtics bigmouth Kevin Garnett reportedly said his wife “tastes like Honey Nut Cheerios” — a dig at Anthony, who is estranged from his sweet spouse.
The NBA superstars nearly came to blows Monday night after Garnett incorporated the General Mills cereal in a fit of trash talking about reality TV-star La La Anthony.
“Your... wife tastes like Honey Nut Cheerios,” Garnett told Anthony in a heated Eastern Conference game at Madison Square Garden.
And there's more . . .
Garnett’s slight came off as offensive and tasteless to Melo, who is having marital problems, a source told the Daily News.
Garnett and Anthony had to be separated on court and both were hit with technical fouls. But the insult left Anthony so upset he sought out Garnett after the 102-96 Knicks loss, apparently to settle the score.
An infuriated Anthony yelled at Garnett outside the Celtics’ locker room immediately after the game. He then tried to confront Garnett later as the Celtics were boarding their team bus to leave the Garden.
Garden security, five NYPD cops and Knicks coach Mike Woodson raced to defuse a potentially volatile scene at the midtown arena.
Anthony and his wife have been living apart for at least two months, and La La rang in the New Year without him in Miami’s South Beach, the source said.
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I think that stuff should stay on the battlefield. I've fought MMA semi-professionally and people have said some messed up stuff to me like "I think your gf wants to do me tonight" etc. It's just psychological warfare. It's not personal. I remember when Rodman would cause Malone to meltdown in the old days..
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Better than anything I've seen so far, quality isn't great though.
Kg swears he didn't say anything about Carmelo's family...
Carmelo claims he crossed the line.
I honestly wouldn't care if he did or not. MJ and Reggie used to talk about players families.
Moral of the story; Melo is an eternal wannabe. Never gonna win an MVP, never gonna win a championship. Always second fiddle to the Lakers in the West and the Celtics and Heat in the East.
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/09/kevin-garnett-carmelo-anthony-fight-video-knicks-celtics/
Wait how does KG swear he didnt say anything about Melo's family? You can make out what's being said?
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If this stuff isn't supposed to be part of the game, call a T and throw the guy out. Trash talking goes back as far as the playgrounds where these guys started playing basketball. The NBA can stop it. It isn't that hard.
Now since the NBA allows it and has always allowed it, they really need to hold players who react to it accountable for their actions.
In my opinion, and this is just me and what I teach my kids, no words should be able to move you to violence (short of threatening you or your loved ones that is.) Ignore it, their words only have power to affect you if you give them the power to affect you. In fact, if you don't respond to KG and just ignore him, eventually that will start getting into his head.
Finally, go to the urban dictionary and look up Honey Nut Cheerios. I apparently have led a very sheltered and boring life.
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If this stuff isn't supposed to be part of the game, call a T and throw the guy out. Trash talking goes back as far as the playgrounds where these guys started playing basketball. The NBA can stop it. It isn't that hard.
Now since the NBA allows it and has always allowed it, they really need to hold players who react to it accountable for their actions.
In my opinion, and this is just me and what I teach my kids, no words should be able to move you to violence (short of threatening you or your loved ones that is.) Ignore it, their words only have power to affect you if you give them the power to affect you. In fact, if you don't respond to KG and just ignore him, eventually that will start getting into his head.
Finally, go to the urban dictionary and look up Honey Nut Cheerios. I apparently have led a very sheltered and boring life.
Good Post! TP!
Great point about it getting in KG's head if it doesn't show any affect on Anthony (I think KG is special in that he would talk to himself if no one else was on the court). I think that is really true for a guy like Ron Artest.
and :o
KG is a freak!
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Anybody find it weird no suspension or fine has been handed out to Melo?!?!
:o
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Anybody find it weird no suspension or fine has been handed out to Melo?!?!
:o
He is one of the league's "baby Jordans". They won't suspend him but any of our guys can get the league's worst at any time.
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Better than anything I've seen so far, quality isn't great though.
Kg swears he didn't say anything about Carmelo's family...
Carmelo claims he crossed the line.
I honestly wouldn't care if he did or not. MJ and Reggie used to talk about players families.
Moral of the story; Melo is an eternal wannabe. Never gonna win an MVP, never gonna win a championship. Always second fiddle to the Lakers in the West and the Celtics and Heat in the East.
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/09/kevin-garnett-carmelo-anthony-fight-video-knicks-celtics/
Wait how does KG swear he didnt say anything about Melo's family? You can make out what's being said?
No, I was summarizing what KG has said about the incident.
I have no idea what they're saying. I think this is where KG was saying he wouldn't waste his money on Melo.
I'm also one of 'nothing is off limits' when it comes to trash talking.
You can bet KG is going to say that stuff in the playoffs.
As mentioned earlier- nothing was out of bounds for guys like Reggie and Jordan. The only stuff I'm not as thrilled about are when I hear Larry Bird allegedly called black players the N word and used racial taunts. It was a different era but still it's horrid.
Michael Jordan and Larry are regarded (much like Kobe) as two of the biggest scumbags ever in the NBA for not drawing a line when it came to getting a mental edge.
It's all on the court and no one means it- if you know it will get inside someones head then use it. If you're going to take it personally and not think about their reasoning and you get suckered in- that's your fault as a professional athlete.
Do I hope KG uses the LaLa references when we are down in game 7 of the EC semi finals with one quarter remaining? Hell yeah.
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Thanks to KG other teams know how to get under CA's skin. Just send a bench scrub out there to tell him "your wife really is part of a complete breakfast" and have him thrown out of the game at best or just taking bad shots at worse.
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Mother(bleep) is probably worse than anything else; imo, if one is the kind to take trash talk and its meaning seriously. Yet, its tossed around frequently by almost all players. Doesn't seem to bother anyone and no "I will see you outside" moments happen. Or so it seems.
To Carmelo: don't dish it if you can't take it. Keep your mouth shut and let your game do the talking. 6-26 is not the way to do it.
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Thanks to KG other teams know how to get under CA's skin. Just send a bench scrub out there to tell him "your wife really is part of a complete breakfast" and have him thrown out of the game at best or just taking bad shots at worse.
TP. I actually have that cereal. Might go have some as it is never too late for breakfast.
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If this stuff isn't supposed to be part of the game, call a T and throw the guy out. Trash talking goes back as far as the playgrounds where these guys started playing basketball. The NBA can stop it. It isn't that hard.
Now since the NBA allows it and has always allowed it, they really need to hold players who react to it accountable for their actions.
In my opinion, and this is just me and what I teach my kids, no words should be able to move you to violence (short of threatening you or your loved ones that is.) Ignore it, their words only have power to affect you if you give them the power to affect you. In fact, if you don't respond to KG and just ignore him, eventually that will start getting into his head.
Finally, go to the urban dictionary and look up Honey Nut Cheerios. I apparently have led a very sheltered and boring life.
Good Post! TP!
Great point about it getting in KG's head if it doesn't show any affect on Anthony (I think KG is special in that he would talk to himself if no one else was on the court). I think that is really true for a guy like Ron Artest.
and :o
KG is a freak!
Ain't he though.
I couldn't figure out why he'd say something so random like Honey Nut Cheerios so I asked my wife who is a teacher if this is some sort of kid's slang. She said she hadn't heard of it. I said, "maybe it is a cultural thing" since I'm white, maybe the African American community just has a thing for Honey Nut Cheerios. Then she told me to look it up in the urban dictionary. So I did and I thought to myself... I totally wasted my college years.
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Who's has good hearing what was being said??
All I heard from KG was "Ni---, Ni---, My Ni---!!"
LOL
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I can't even tell what's happening. And how can a video quality so bad? It's 2013 lol
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I can't believe some posters in here will write something like "any topic is fair game in trash talking."
How about an opponent's sick, dying, or dead child? Is that fair material for trash talk?
For those who think trash talking should have no limits, don't go crying when you favorite player gets his jaw busted by a punch.
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I can't believe some posters in here will write something like "any topic is fair game in trash talking."
How about an opponent's sick, dying, or dead child? Is that fair material for trash talk?
For those who think trash talking should have no limits, don't go crying when you favorite player gets his jaw busted by a punch.
I think anyone would say that's too far. Talking about the wife? I'd say that's ok. Me and my friends said thing MUCH worse then what KG said back in our basketball days to each other.
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I can't believe some posters in here will write something like "any topic is fair game in trash talking."
How about an opponent's sick, dying, or dead child? Is that fair material for trash talk?
For those who think trash talking should have no limits, don't go crying when you favorite player gets his jaw busted by a punch.
dude,the idea is they can say what they want to each other and over time a line gets developed. If someone then crosses that line, a player should react in a psychologically healthy way
For Carmello to let the whole world know that he thought that line had been crossed and for those actual words to end up public because he was such a fool in this day and age...well that is the point, when it turns out KG was saying his wife was sweet.
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^ If it's not against the rules, it's acceptable. This isn't the National Best-friends Association. KG is going to go over the lines of decency as long as he can get away with it, particularly when it causes Marshmelo to wilt.
Talking about someone's dead mother is terrible. I don't care the circumstances. Its a low blow. If it was any player besides KG or another non-Celtic we wouldn't be debating it. Imagine if Kobe Bryant said the same thing tl Tim Duncan. We'd be calling him a classless jerk.
That is crossing the line...but virtually anything else is game.
I don't want to believe KG took it that far but he was pretty young in 99 so I guess I could call it dumb youth.
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How about an opponent's sick, dying, or dead child? Is that fair material for trash talk?
What is not prohibited, is permitted. There's no arbiter of "fair". Until the NBA cracks down on trash talk that "over the line", it's acceptable.
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at the end of the day, talk just just that. talk. its verbal. it doesnt hurt anyone. its on the court so noone actually hears it other than the players.
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By the next time Melo comes to Boston, half the crowd is going to be wearing General Mills and Honey Nut Cheerio related t-shirts.
Maybe KG with a big ol spoon in his hand, havin himself a bite.
Melo would lose it.
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By the next time Melo comes to Boston, half the crowd is going to be wearing General Mills and Honey Nut Cheerio related t-shirts.
Maybe KG with a big ol spoon in his hand, havin himself a bite.
Melo would lose it.
2 weeks from today. haha
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Dude, he will miss every shot! Someone get this in motion.
I live in San Diego, so I can't take a leadership position on this one...
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Melo was suspended. Good!
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Melo was suspended. Good!
I don't even think more than 1 would be necessary if I was commish but going from what other suspensions have gone down this seems so lenient. But whatever.