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Title: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: joeb on January 08, 2013, 09:59:26 AM
this article by A. Sherrod Blakely of CSNNE is spot on IMO. this can be a huge weapon for the C's.

http://www.csnne.com/basketball-boston-celtics/celtics-talk/Lee-Bradley-make-up-dynamic-duo-on-defen?blockID=821093&feedID=10424 (http://www.csnne.com/basketball-boston-celtics/celtics-talk/Lee-Bradley-make-up-dynamic-duo-on-defen?blockID=821093&feedID=10424)
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on January 08, 2013, 10:10:45 AM
Last night in the first quarter, when JR checked in I'm screaming at my tv "Doc put Courtney in the game!" That's the reason Terry started IMO is to be able to bring Lee off the bench and face JR.

I really hope we don't trade either one of these guys
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: Edgar on January 08, 2013, 10:15:56 AM
i luv them both

nothing like bad arse deffense to put a smile in my face.
yes Rondo and those two will probably make other team guards cry all day long.
They still have to cover 3s a little closer theyre fast enought to do that.

PP better keep jumping on 3s like yesterday, that was another remark for me and another smile in my face.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: CelticG1 on January 08, 2013, 10:34:29 AM
Lee deserves a ton of credit for the way he's played for a little while now.

He's gotten out of his funk which couldn't be easy with trade (albeit soft) rumors and the return of AB.

He just seems so focused on team play right now, just seems like he's shutting out the noise
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: joeb on January 08, 2013, 10:40:51 AM
Lee deserves a ton of credit for the way he's played for a little while now.

He's gotten out of his funk which couldn't be easy with trade (albeit soft) rumors and the return of AB.

He just seems so focused on team play right now, just seems like he's shutting out the noise
agreed, so many have focused on his offense, or lack thereof, but his calling card is D, he's not the ideal spot up corner 3 shooter, though he can hit those shots. he's got a pretty good midrange game and is athletic enough to get to the hoop and get out in transition. Keep playing that D and he earns his pay IMO.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: Edgar on January 08, 2013, 10:44:46 AM
and is athletic enough to get to the hoop and get out in transition. K

this is something we need badly and he did pretty decent this games
Avery too.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 08, 2013, 10:49:11 AM
Lee needs to play more, don't know why Doc is playing him so little particularly with Terry's shot not falling.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on January 08, 2013, 01:52:19 PM
and is athletic enough to get to the hoop and get out in transition. K

this is something we need badly and he did pretty decent this games
Avery too.

I'll admit i like lee's defense lately. him and AB help us big time on the perimeter. Hope he keeps it up. he may not be traded now. we will see.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: Snakehead on January 08, 2013, 02:06:10 PM
and is athletic enough to get to the hoop and get out in transition. K

this is something we need badly and he did pretty decent this games
Avery too.

I'll admit i like lee's defense lately. him and AB help us big time on the perimeter. Hope he keeps it up. he may not be traded now. we will see.

I think it'd be a mistake to trade him for lesser value.

The guy has shot threes well his whole career.  It'd be foolish to give up on a bad streak.

To me that's all he is doing wrong.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 08, 2013, 02:38:37 PM
and is athletic enough to get to the hoop and get out in transition. K

this is something we need badly and he did pretty decent this games
Avery too.

I'll admit i like lee's defense lately. him and AB help us big time on the perimeter. Hope he keeps it up. he may not be traded now. we will see.

I think it'd be a mistake to trade him for lesser value.

The guy has shot threes well his whole career.  It'd be foolish to give up on a bad streak.

To me that's all he is doing wrong.

And he's shooting over 41% from 3s since December.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: snively on January 08, 2013, 02:59:53 PM
He's definitely fitting in better now that the team has renewed its defensive intensity and upped its pace as a result. 

Lee/Bradley is a workable tandem as long as Pierce is available as a shot-creator and the opponent doesn't have a good press guard.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: Snakehead on January 08, 2013, 03:03:08 PM
and is athletic enough to get to the hoop and get out in transition. K

this is something we need badly and he did pretty decent this games
Avery too.

I'll admit i like lee's defense lately. him and AB help us big time on the perimeter. Hope he keeps it up. he may not be traded now. we will see.

I think it'd be a mistake to trade him for lesser value.

The guy has shot threes well his whole career.  It'd be foolish to give up on a bad streak.

To me that's all he is doing wrong.

And he's shooting over 41% from 3s since December.

Ah I wasn't aware of that, though I could see improvement.

This is where he should be.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 08, 2013, 03:03:28 PM
He's definitely fitting in better now that the team has renewed its defensive intensity and upped its pace as a result. 

Lee/Bradley is a workable tandem as long as Pierce is available as a shot-creator and the opponent doesn't have a good press guard.

Lee is bringing up the ball anyways for the 2nd unit, so having Bradley or Terry in there won't make much of difference one way or another.

There aren't many guards who get playing time that adequately pressure PGs, and considering that Lee is a SG, it's questionable if they'll put their PG defender on him.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 08, 2013, 03:06:16 PM
and is athletic enough to get to the hoop and get out in transition. K

this is something we need badly and he did pretty decent this games
Avery too.

I'll admit i like lee's defense lately. him and AB help us big time on the perimeter. Hope he keeps it up. he may not be traded now. we will see.

I think it'd be a mistake to trade him for lesser value.

The guy has shot threes well his whole career.  It'd be foolish to give up on a bad streak.

To me that's all he is doing wrong.

And he's shooting over 41% from 3s since December.

Ah I wasn't aware of that, though I could see improvement.

This is where he should be.

Not going to do the math again, but prior to yesterday's game, he was shooting over 50% from the field during that span, helping improve his season to 47.5% which is a career high so far for him.

He's been playing great for us for a while now, and it's a bit of a travesty that Doc has been limiting him this much, particularly when you consider he's our best defender on our bench.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: 2short on January 08, 2013, 03:08:36 PM
Lee has done a nice job playing through slump.  We have started season with Lee, Terry, Bass and Green being in slumps or inconsistent.  What I really like is when we are playing well there isn't much of a let up when 2nd unit guys like Lee, Green, Sully and Terry come in.  If we start playing as well as we can as a team you could see regular season minutes for kg, pp, rondo and terry kept in control.  Maybe sully and bass aren't starter material compared to the best pf in game but those 2 don't give much of a let up for opposing players. 
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: Edgar on January 08, 2013, 03:16:25 PM
Seems like we finally found Lee and Bradley the unicorn...(nothing related with the female part of the add) but about the mithycal creature.  ;D

reference...

(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4542804973650699&pid=15.1)
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: j804 on January 08, 2013, 04:23:00 PM
Seriously if Lee and Bradley keep playing like this who needs a big? It is AS GOOD as a big covering up the paint if these guys can keep guards from dribble penetrating.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: AB_Celtic on January 08, 2013, 05:28:32 PM
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/nba/teamsites-nbateams/release/celtics/sites/celtics/files/bradley-defense-smith-20130108-300x400.jpg)

Derp.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: kozlodoev on January 08, 2013, 05:40:09 PM
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/nba/teamsites-nbateams/release/celtics/sites/celtics/files/bradley-defense-smith-20130108-300x400.jpg)

Derp.
That's a foul, by the way.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 08, 2013, 05:43:40 PM
Wrong Thread - my Bad.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: AB_Celtic on January 08, 2013, 05:49:20 PM
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/nba/teamsites-nbateams/release/celtics/sites/celtics/files/bradley-defense-smith-20130108-300x400.jpg)

Derp.
That's a foul, by the way.

You're a foul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NO8lnC7u3w
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on January 08, 2013, 07:38:28 PM
Seriously if Lee and Bradley keep playing like this who needs a big? It is AS GOOD as a big covering up the paint if these guys can keep guards from dribble penetrating.

you are assuming too much. you still need a B plan at the rim when KG is out.

Remember you have to beat the heat. You think it can be done with the team we have now? Without another big we are not maximizing our mismatches we have on miami at the 5.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: Mr October on January 08, 2013, 08:05:40 PM
Seriously if Lee and Bradley keep playing like this who needs a big? It is AS GOOD as a big covering up the paint if these guys can keep guards from dribble penetrating.

you are assuming too much. you still need a B plan at the rim when KG is out.

Remember you have to beat the heat. You think it can be done with the team we have now? Without another big we are not maximizing our mismatches we have on miami at the 5.

Yeah A big rim protector when KG sits continues to be a big hole. I don't know who can fill it though. Gortat is another below the rim player. Dalembert might be too slow to play against the heat. Smart, quick shot blockers are hard to find.
Title: Re: Bradely and Lee: Suffocating Perimeter D
Post by: Celtics18 on January 08, 2013, 08:24:58 PM
Seriously if Lee and Bradley keep playing like this who needs a big? It is AS GOOD as a big covering up the paint if these guys can keep guards from dribble penetrating.

you are assuming too much. you still need a B plan at the rim when KG is out.

Remember you have to beat the heat. You think it can be done with the team we have now? Without another big we are not maximizing our mismatches we have on miami at the 5.

Yeah A big rim protector when KG sits continues to be a big hole. I don't know who can fill it though. Gortat is another below the rim player. Dalembert might be too slow to play against the heat. Smart, quick shot blockers are hard to find.

How about this guy?

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/073/500/hi-res-150637386_crop_exact.jpg?w=650&h=440&q=75

And this guy?

https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/1284998903/image.jpg