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Title: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:28:25 PM
For contact w/ an official and not cooperating w/ the league investigation, apparently.

Didn't hear anything about this at the time.  Very odd.  Also really annoying.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: rondohondo on January 07, 2013, 04:28:45 PM
for bumping ref in the atl game ughhh
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:29:22 PM
I beat you! :D

Also, this is mind-blowing.  How does he keep doing this stuff?
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Eddie20 on January 07, 2013, 04:29:33 PM
For contact w/ an official and not cooperating w/ the league investigation, apparently.

Didn't hear anything about this at the time.  Very odd.  Also really annoying.

Supposedly it happened during the 3Q of the Hawks game.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 07, 2013, 04:30:52 PM
I was keeping my mouth shut, but saw it coming.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: scaryjerry on January 07, 2013, 04:31:52 PM
Embarrassing suspension.

Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: ScottHow on January 07, 2013, 04:32:48 PM
We got our little cousins here already. Very disappointing.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:32:55 PM
Well, chalk tonight's game up as a loss, I guess.  Frustrating, because it could have been a good one.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Fafnir on January 07, 2013, 04:33:16 PM
I'll have to check out the video on it.

The "not cooperating" bit is strange to hear. Did he just refuse to talk to the league about it?
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:34:06 PM
We got our little cousins here already. Very disappointing.

Yeah.  Not that this has been mentioned in rumors at all, but this sort of stuff means the Celtics probably couldn't even trade Rondo for Cousins if they wanted to.  Doubt the Kings would consider trading one super talented hot-head for another.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: letsgoblue86 on January 07, 2013, 04:34:10 PM
This is the most absurd thing I've ever seen. 

http://www.nba.com/games/20130105/BOSATL/gameinfo.html

Happens at about 1:50 of the game highlights, not even notable.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Chris on January 07, 2013, 04:34:53 PM
Rondo, you idiot!

Seriously, he needs to learn to respect authority. 
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Fafnir on January 07, 2013, 04:35:42 PM
League and the officials clearly aren't cutting Rondo any slack, I just saw the video.

Anyone without his history doesn't get a peep about it, heck the ref might not have even put it in his after action report. But Rondo has a target on his back because of all his prior behavior.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: CelticHooligan3 on January 07, 2013, 04:36:00 PM
We've got a serial "bumper" on this team and people are worried about Cousins..
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:36:04 PM
This is the most absurd thing I've ever seen. 

http://www.nba.com/games/20130105/BOSATL/gameinfo.html

Happens at about 1:50 of the game highlights, not even notable.

He deserves it.  TP for the catch there.  I didn't notice.  He's a moron.  With his history, there's absolutely no excuse for doing that.  He has to know better.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: ScottHow on January 07, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
I love Rondo, but how dumb can he be?
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Chris on January 07, 2013, 04:38:08 PM
League and the officials clearly aren't cutting Rondo any slack, I just saw the video.

Anyone without his history doesn't get a peep about it, heck the ref might not have even put it in his after action report. But Rondo has a target on his back because of all his prior behavior.

This sounds like it is about not cooperating with the league, not the actual bump.  And thats the part that is frustrating.  I am sure if he just answered their questions, nothing would come from this.  But instead, he is escalating things, and not making any friends in the league office. 
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:38:14 PM
League and the officials clearly aren't cutting Rondo any slack, I just saw the video.

Anyone without his history doesn't get a peep about it, heck the ref might not have even put it in his after action report. But Rondo has a target on his back because of all his prior behavior.

They aren't cutting him any slack, but given his history, I don't think they have any reason to.

Whether you or I or Rondo think it is right or not, the fact is the league has this policy that the players must respect the refs.  Rondo is by all accounts a very smart guy.  He should know enough to make darn sure he doesn't touch an official.  Ever.

The fact that he so casually walked up to the official and clearly didn't even make an effort not to bump into him just shows you how arrogant Rondo is.  Unbelievable.  Sometimes he really doesn't seem to think about the effect of his actions on his team.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: SchnellHanse on January 07, 2013, 04:40:05 PM
I Guess Rondo is sitting on plane to Mexico by now :p
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Chris on January 07, 2013, 04:41:53 PM
I Guess Rondo is sitting on plane to Mexico by now :p

Or to Sacramento ;)
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: ScottHow on January 07, 2013, 04:42:46 PM
So how many times can rondo say sorry and have the team believe him?
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: mctyson on January 07, 2013, 04:42:51 PM
Does that mean he misses tonight's game or is he going to appeal?
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Fafnir on January 07, 2013, 04:43:08 PM
So how many times can rondo say sorry and have the team believe him?
What makes you think Rondo has ever said he's sorry to the team?
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Change on January 07, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
nothing gets by the league.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L4RIGQJ_bnw#t=215s
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Edgar on January 07, 2013, 04:44:55 PM
 >:( stupeed
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:45:18 PM
So how many times can rondo say sorry and have the team believe him?
What makes you think Rondo has ever said he's sorry to the team?

The way he continues to do this stuff makes it pretty clear that he is not sorry nor does he think he's ever made a mistake.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Birdman on January 07, 2013, 04:45:26 PM
if wade or lebron had done that, nothing would been said. Rondo has to watch what he does now..NBA is watching him closely like they did with Rodman and Rasheed
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Eddie20 on January 07, 2013, 04:46:04 PM
It looked as though the ref looked at Rondo after the "brush" to look at his number since he called him for a charge.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Kane3387 on January 07, 2013, 04:46:14 PM
Bummer.

But they are without Felton.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:47:20 PM
Bummer.

But they are without Felton.

Fair point, but they have Kidd to run the show.

Celtics are gonna have to start Lee or Terry next to Bradley.  Pierce will have to play point forward.  Meh.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Fafnir on January 07, 2013, 04:47:37 PM
Bummer.

But they are without Felton.
You say that like Felton's any good!

I suppose he's better than whatever guard is no in their rotation, but Felton this year hasn't been better than fat Felton last year.

He's just on a team that's winning.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: csfansince60s on January 07, 2013, 04:48:21 PM
I love Rondo, but how dumb can he be?

...and selfish and petulant and irresponsible....consummate teammate? I dunno.

Sad.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Atzar on January 07, 2013, 04:50:58 PM
Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials.  They fined him 15k for doing so. 

You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that.  That's a prick move on his part.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Snakehead on January 07, 2013, 04:51:48 PM
Bummer.

But they are without Felton.

They at least have two other PGs.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: csfansince60s on January 07, 2013, 04:53:35 PM
Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials.  They fined him 15k for doing so. 

You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that.  That's a prick move on his part.


Maybe Ferry's mad, because he think we (KG,RR,PP,DOC) are tampering with JSmoove?  ;)
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:54:06 PM
Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials.  They fined him 15k for doing so. 

You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that.  That's a prick move on his part.

Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue?  That's an important question, too.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: eugen on January 07, 2013, 04:55:11 PM
Let see AB or Barbosa how can they be able to subsitute Rondo
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Fafnir on January 07, 2013, 04:55:47 PM
Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials.  They fined him 15k for doing so. 

You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that.  That's a prick move on his part.

Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue?  That's an important question, too.
They're clearly trying to embarass him for something beyond the incident during the game.

Whether or not they'd have let him off with just a fine, is something we wont' know unless they leak/comment on it.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Snakehead on January 07, 2013, 04:56:49 PM
Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials.  They fined him 15k for doing so. 

You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that.  That's a prick move on his part.

Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue?  That's an important question, too.
They're clearly trying to embarass him for something beyond the incident during the game.

Whether or not they'd have let him off with just a fine, is something we wont' know unless they leak/comment on it.

I have to agree because what was there to investigate?

There is video and it's their call what happens.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Atzar on January 07, 2013, 04:57:25 PM
Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials.  They fined him 15k for doing so. 

You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that.  That's a prick move on his part.

Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue?  That's an important question, too.

Yeah, I don't know what that's about.  Rondo's behavior toward the league is starting to become a little alarming, I admit. 
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: csfansince60s on January 07, 2013, 04:57:50 PM
I thought that you could appeal a suspension, and it didn't go into effect until the appeal was ruled upon.

Is that an old rule, or has that never been a rule?
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:58:20 PM
Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials.  They fined him 15k for doing so. 

You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that.  That's a prick move on his part.

Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue?  That's an important question, too.
They're clearly trying to embarass him for something beyond the incident during the game.

Whether or not they'd have let him off with just a fine, is something we wont' know unless they leak/comment on it.

Well, regardless, I can't excuse the bump of the official.  In a vacuum, it's not a big deal, but given Rondo's history, it's unbelievably arrogant, stupid, and selfish.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:58:43 PM
I thought that you could appeal a suspension, and it didn't go into effect until the appeal was ruled upon.

Is that an old rule, or has that never been a rule?

I think you're thinking NFL.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Fafnir on January 07, 2013, 04:59:34 PM
I thought that you could appeal a suspension, and it didn't go into effect until the appeal was ruled upon.

Is that an old rule, or has that never been a rule?

I think you're thinking NFL.
You could appeal under the old CBA certainly, I'm not aware how the new CBA treats matters.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Edgar on January 07, 2013, 05:00:11 PM
Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials.  They fined him 15k for doing so. 

You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that.  That's a prick move on his part.

Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue?  That's an important question, too.
They're clearly trying to embarass him for something beyond the incident during the game.

Whether or not they'd have let him off with just a fine, is something we wont' know unless they leak/comment on it.

I have to agree because what was there to investigate?

There is video and it's their call what happens.


Not cooperate = He didnt answer the phone or use the probervial No Comments!
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: j804 on January 07, 2013, 05:00:16 PM
Thanks Danny Ferry  ::)

Quote
Hawks GM Danny Ferry is being fined $15,000 for being a snitch.

Rajon Rondo bumped referee Rodney Mott on Sunday night and he will pay the price for that by sitting out Monday night.

But after the game when it happened Ferry approached the referees and gave them the video of the play. The tattletale. But the league has a hard and fast rule about players or team officials approaching a referee after the game, for any reason, so he Ferry was given a $15,000 fine by the league.

The whole thing kind of makes me laugh, mostly because I don’t have to write the check.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 07, 2013, 05:02:59 PM
So I was right in chat! Sad that I'm right but everyone said he wouldn't be...  :'(
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Chris on January 07, 2013, 05:03:23 PM
Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials.  They fined him 15k for doing so. 

You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that.  That's a prick move on his part.

Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue?  That's an important question, too.
They're clearly trying to embarass him for something beyond the incident during the game.

Whether or not they'd have let him off with just a fine, is something we wont' know unless they leak/comment on it.

I have to agree because what was there to investigate?

There is video and it's their call what happens.


Not cooperate = He didnt answer the phone or use the probervial No Comments!

I doubt he just didn't answer the phone, because the PA would be pitching a hissy fit if he was losing salary for missing a phone call.  Plus, they could always reach him through the team.

With Rondo's history, I think it is most likely that he mouthed off a bit to the league officials when they came asking about it. 
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: GronkSpike on January 07, 2013, 05:04:53 PM
I noticed during the game, because the Hawks' commentators showed the replay like 3 times and moaned about the lack of a T.

Well, guess this is worse.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: ScottHow on January 07, 2013, 05:06:57 PM
Thanks Danny Ferry  ::)

Quote
Hawks GM Danny Ferry is being fined $15,000 for being a snitch.

Rajon Rondo bumped referee Rodney Mott on Sunday night and he will pay the price for that by sitting out Monday night.

But after the game when it happened Ferry approached the referees and gave them the video of the play. The tattletale. But the league has a hard and fast rule about players or team officials approaching a referee after the game, for any reason, so he Ferry was given a $15,000 fine by the league.

The whole thing kind of makes me laugh, mostly because I don’t have to write the check.

I don't blame Ferry, I'd want ainge to do that. Rondo messed up.......again.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: greenpride32 on January 07, 2013, 05:11:47 PM
This is supposed be our leader of the future?  No wonder no other team wants to trade for him.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: prov1ml34 on January 07, 2013, 05:15:48 PM
could have been worse. He could have been thrown out of the ATL game which more than likely ends up a loss and then suspended for tonight on top of it. Cs will just have to dig deep and gut out a W tonight. I have a feeling Barbosa can give us good minutes.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: jarufu on January 07, 2013, 05:17:01 PM
I noticed during the game, because the Hawks' commentators showed the replay like 3 times and moaned about the lack of a T.

Well, guess this is worse.

Yeah I noticed it during the game and thought the ref was letting it go. Then they went to the monitors but were checking something else. Non-event at the time.  . Rondo must have told the league where to go when they went called after reviewing.  Bizarro. 
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 07, 2013, 05:21:11 PM
I won't say the Cs can't win this game, and I'll still be cheering them on, but I'm figuring on the little win streak ending tonight. So much for momentum.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Chris on January 07, 2013, 05:23:56 PM
I won't say the Cs can't win this game, and I'll still be cheering them on, but I'm figuring on the little win streak ending tonight. So much for momentum.

The C's played very well last year in the short stretch where Bradley started for Rondo, largely due to great defense, and Pierce putting the team on his shoulders.

Pierce happens to LOVE playing in MSG, and the teams defense got some swagger over the last few games, and they can now throw Bradley and Lee at the Knicks depleted backcourt.

I would not be surprised to see the C's come out on top tonight.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Interceptor on January 07, 2013, 05:24:00 PM
I won't say the Cs can't win this game, and I'll still be cheering them on, but I'm figuring on the little win streak ending tonight. So much for momentum.
Well, the momentum is based on defense, which (sadly) Rondo has little to nothing to do with. It's still a good sign for the C's if they can hold down the Knicks to <90 points in a loss, playing good D for four quarters.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: JoT on January 07, 2013, 05:25:57 PM
if wade or lebron had done that, nothing would been said. Rondo has to watch what he does now..NBA is watching him closely like they did with Rodman and Rasheed
This on both parts. He's starting to get a rep like Sheed and he needs to control it fast because he can mess himself up badly especially with the refs.
Also like you stated LeBron nor Wade would have gotten anything called on them for this. Heck LeBron was arguing with a ref (there is video of it) during the Heat/Chicago game and nothing was called yet Durant was ejected after getting two techs for arguing with a ref during the Nets/Thunder game.


Also I wonder what is it with the Hawks higher ups and them not liking the Celtics? Their owner called out KG and the team last year and the GM told on Rondo.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Fafnir on January 07, 2013, 05:28:02 PM
I won't say the Cs can't win this game, and I'll still be cheering them on, but I'm figuring on the little win streak ending tonight. So much for momentum.
Well, the momentum is based on defense, which (sadly) Rondo has little to nothing to do with. It's still a good sign for the C's if they can hold down the Knicks to <90 points in a loss, playing good D for four quarters.
Rondo has an awful lot to do with our defense, especially given that Terry/Barbosa are going to end up playing more minutes now.

Just going to make things tougher.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Interceptor on January 07, 2013, 05:31:18 PM
Rondo has an awful lot to do with our defense, especially given that Terry/Barbosa are going to end up playing more minutes now.
Sure he does, but how much of it is good?

Terry was putting the opposing PG in a phone booth on Saturday. Doc has given props to Barbosa's D. Maybe we see a little less turnstile tonight, with Rondo out.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Fafnir on January 07, 2013, 05:34:11 PM
Rondo has an awful lot to do with our defense, especially given that Terry/Barbosa are going to end up playing more minutes now.
Sure he does, but how much of it is good?

Terry was putting the opposing PG in a phone booth on Saturday. Doc has given props to Barbosa's D. Maybe we see a little less turnstile tonight, with Rondo out.
Barbosa played good defense for a game or two and then was back to his normal self. The Atlanta game was probably Terry's first good defensive game.

Rondo isn't nearly as consistent as KG/Bradley defensively, but he's a good defensive player. But people seem to think he should never get picked off or beat off the dribble.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 07, 2013, 05:34:30 PM
I love Rondo, but he REALLY has to stop this mess.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: 2short on January 07, 2013, 05:38:09 PM
absolutely ridiculous suspension
nba is a joke, watch the game again and count missed calls on really obvious stuff, if the ref thought he was bumped he would have called it
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Smutzy#9 on January 07, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Rondo gets 0 love from the league at all. can guarentee if lebron kobe rose or durant did that we wouldnt be having this conversation.

I heard a ref tell Lebron to walk away lebron death stared him and said dont talk to me like that. The ref then walked away. No tech, where is the consistency?
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: makaveli on January 07, 2013, 05:39:27 PM
pierce will take over
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: danglertx on January 07, 2013, 05:44:00 PM
absolutely ridiculous suspension
nba is a joke, watch the game again and count missed calls on really obvious stuff, if the ref thought he was bumped he would have called it

You mean like Josh Smith pimp slapping Rondo's face and the the refs not only didn't call a foul, but gave the ball to the Hawks?

If KG did that it would have been a flagrant 2 and an ejection.  At least KG hit the ball.  The League reviews those and yet no flagrant assessed to Smith, so I guess there wasn't really contact to Rondo's head?
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: guava_wrench on January 07, 2013, 05:49:35 PM
Rondo's stubbornness is a significant problem. People like that are prone to not take responsibility for their actions.

He is a great player and I'm glad to have him, but he is a bit of a loose cannon due to his temper issues and lack of respect for others. That is part of what makes him great, but it will also lead to him being suspended at moments like this.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Smutzy#9 on January 07, 2013, 05:49:51 PM
absolutely ridiculous suspension
nba is a joke, watch the game again and count missed calls on really obvious stuff, if the ref thought he was bumped he would have called it

You mean like Josh Smith pimp slapping Rondo's face and the the refs not only didn't call a foul, but gave the ball to the Hawks?

If KG did that it would have been a flagrant 2 and an ejection.  At least KG hit the ball.  The League reviews those and yet no flagrant assessed to Smith, so I guess there wasn't really contact to Rondo's head?

TP here exactly the case im talking about. the excuse for KG's flagrant 2 the other day the ref stated to doc "he hit him in the head, what do you want me to do"

Not to mention that its absurd that nothing was done one the court at the time of the altercation, i heard the announcers mention something about it be he was 5X the homer tommy is

The ref obviously didnt think it was a big deal then, why does it have to be one now.

**** i cant wait till NBA front office gets gutted. Bring in some new officials that actually call the fairly and call things like palms, travels ect. its bull**** today
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Mr Green on January 07, 2013, 05:52:57 PM
Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials.  They fined him 15k for doing so. 

You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that.  That's a prick move on his part.

He's going to get himself a reputation as a snitch.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Bahku on January 07, 2013, 05:56:09 PM
I'm probably the only one, (and I wish we had Rondo tonight), but I'm interested to see how Avery will perform without his buddy at point ... and will he still play the two?
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: guava_wrench on January 07, 2013, 05:56:21 PM
absolutely ridiculous suspension
nba is a joke, watch the game again and count missed calls on really obvious stuff, if the ref thought he was bumped he would have called it

You mean like Josh Smith pimp slapping Rondo's face and the the refs not only didn't call a foul, but gave the ball to the Hawks?

If KG did that it would have been a flagrant 2 and an ejection.  At least KG hit the ball.  The League reviews those and yet no flagrant assessed to Smith, so I guess there wasn't really contact to Rondo's head?

TP here exactly the case im talking about. the excuse for KG's flagrant 2 the other day the ref stated to doc "he hit him in the head, what do you want me to do"

Not to mention that its absurd that nothing was done one the court at the time of the altercation, i heard the announcers mention something about it be he was 5X the homer tommy is

The ref obviously didnt think it was a big deal then, why does it have to be one now.

**** i cant wait till NBA front office gets gutted. Bring in some new officials that actually call the fairly and call things like palms, travels ect. its bull**** today
KG's foul where Mike Gorman, upon seeing the replay, said straight out to Tommy, "That's a flagrant"?

Doesn't seem controversial to me.

The ref not making the call does not decide the issue. The ref might not want to impact the game in progress despite Rondo being way out of line. If the ref made a mistake, the league is rectifying it. Not a problem.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: RebusRankin on January 07, 2013, 06:04:43 PM
What a load of BS. Don't recall Howard getting suspended for slapping a ref's butt. Same thing.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Smutzy#9 on January 07, 2013, 06:10:16 PM
absolutely ridiculous suspension
nba is a joke, watch the game again and count missed calls on really obvious stuff, if the ref thought he was bumped he would have called it

You mean like Josh Smith pimp slapping Rondo's face and the the refs not only didn't call a foul, but gave the ball to the Hawks?

If KG did that it would have been a flagrant 2 and an ejection.  At least KG hit the ball.  The League reviews those and yet no flagrant assessed to Smith, so I guess there wasn't really contact to Rondo's head?

TP here exactly the case im talking about. the excuse for KG's flagrant 2 the other day the ref stated to doc "he hit him in the head, what do you want me to do"

Not to mention that its absurd that nothing was done one the court at the time of the altercation, i heard the announcers mention something about it be he was 5X the homer tommy is

The ref obviously didnt think it was a big deal then, why does it have to be one now.

**** i cant wait till NBA front office gets gutted. Bring in some new officials that actually call the fairly and call things like palms, travels ect. its bull**** today
KG's foul where Mike Gorman, upon seeing the replay, said straight out to Tommy, "That's a flagrant"?

Doesn't seem controversial to me.

The ref not making the call does not decide the issue. The ref might not want to impact the game in progress despite Rondo being way out of line. If the ref made a mistake, the league is rectifying it. Not a problem.

The problem with you saying that is there is quite often no calls at key moments in games that would impact games in a different way where officials do make mistakes. And i know i should probably let it go but the hit wade did on rondo in game 2 of the east finals last year we had all the momentum wade clearly hits rondo in the head no call. Refs made a mistake league does nothing about it.

I agree that Garnetts flagrant should of been at least a flagrant 1 but a 2 was absurd.

Rondo probably should know by now that he shouldnt be doing things like this because this is what is going to happen.

Refs making mistakes is happening too much i would just like to see some consistency with calls come into play. Ie kg made a play on the ball hit someone in the head.....gets flagrant 2. Smith makes a play on the ball hits rondo in the face...... no call. difference?
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: KGs Knee on January 07, 2013, 06:17:00 PM
Yikes.

When I 1st saw this thread I thought it some sort of old thread that got brought back.

Can't say I recall seeing him do any such thing, obviously he must have though.  Have to check the video when I get to a computer.

Rondo should know by now the league is after him.  Stern loves to make examples of those whom he perceives as "bad apples".
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: tonyto3690 on January 07, 2013, 06:24:33 PM
The report is that the suspension isn't because of the bump.

It's because of Rondos lack of cooperation in the follow up investigation of the bump.

Even if it was for the bump, I don't have an issue with it.  He has a previous track record and it was clearly intentional. 

This is 100% on Rondo.  Do not blame the league.  It's not the NBA's fault Rondo is an immature punk.


So much for being our leader.  *rolls eyes*
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: albas89 on January 07, 2013, 06:24:47 PM
Way to ruin a great Celtics-Knicks game David Stern... ::)
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: rondofor3 on January 07, 2013, 06:31:37 PM
F the NBA. If they had decent officials Rondo wouldn't of had a reason to argue over the terrible call.

Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Neurotic Guy on January 07, 2013, 06:35:18 PM
could have been worse. He could have been thrown out of the ATL game which more than likely ends up a loss and then suspended for tonight on top of it. Cs will just have to dig deep and gut out a W tonight. I have a feeling Barbosa can give us good minutes.

Well if it were actually a bump he would have been thrown out. He wasn't thrown out because it was incidental contact.   In fact, I'm not sure the way it looks if the official didn't make the initial move to make the contact. And the second 'touch' is them just walking closely together.  If the official felt any aggression at all he would have tossed him. This was nothing like the bump incident.  I'll be interested in hearing more about the refual to cooperate part.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: danglertx on January 07, 2013, 06:35:25 PM
absolutely ridiculous suspension
nba is a joke, watch the game again and count missed calls on really obvious stuff, if the ref thought he was bumped he would have called it

You mean like Josh Smith pimp slapping Rondo's face and the the refs not only didn't call a foul, but gave the ball to the Hawks?

If KG did that it would have been a flagrant 2 and an ejection.  At least KG hit the ball.  The League reviews those and yet no flagrant assessed to Smith, so I guess there wasn't really contact to Rondo's head?

TP here exactly the case im talking about. the excuse for KG's flagrant 2 the other day the ref stated to doc "he hit him in the head, what do you want me to do"

Not to mention that its absurd that nothing was done one the court at the time of the altercation, i heard the announcers mention something about it be he was 5X the homer tommy is

The ref obviously didnt think it was a big deal then, why does it have to be one now.

**** i cant wait till NBA front office gets gutted. Bring in some new officials that actually call the fairly and call things like palms, travels ect. its bull**** today
KG's foul where Mike Gorman, upon seeing the replay, said straight out to Tommy, "That's a flagrant"?

Doesn't seem controversial to me.

The ref not making the call does not decide the issue. The ref might not want to impact the game in progress despite Rondo being way out of line. If the ref made a mistake, the league is rectifying it. Not a problem.

You misunderstand me, I'm not saying Garnet's shouldn't have been a flagrant 2.  If any hit to the head is a flagrant 2 then fine. 

What I am saying is that the league reviews the game.  On seeing Smith slap Rondo in the face he should be assessed a flagrant 2.  I haven't heard that it happened.  There is no reason Garnet should have a flagrant 2 and not Smith.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: danglertx on January 07, 2013, 06:38:19 PM
This is why it is important.

"A. Flagrant Foul Rules

There are two types of Flagrant Fouls, as follows:

Flagrant "1" (FFP1) - unnecessary contact committed by a player against an opponent. The opposing team is awarded two (2) free throws and possession.

Flagrant "2" (FFP2) - unnecessary and excessive contact committed by a player against an opponent. The opposing team is awarded two (2) free throws and possession and the player committing the foul is automatically ejected.

Any player who commits two Flagrant "1" Fouls in the same game will be automatically ejected from that game.

In addition, in order to address the problem of repeat offenders, the following three-point system will be in effect during the 2010 Playoffs:

• Flagrant "1" = 1 point

• Flagrant "2" = 2 points

A player will receive the points set forth above for each flagrant foul committed during the Playoffs. If the player's Playoff total exceeds 3 points, he will receive an automatic suspension following the game in which his point total exceeds 3 points and for each additional flagrant foul committed during the Playoffs, as follows:

Player at 2 points commits a FFP2: automatic one-game suspension

Player at 3 or 4 points commits a FFP1: automatic one-game suspension

Player at 3 or 4 points commits a FFP2: automatic two-game suspension

Player at 5 points or more commits a FFP1 or FFP2: automatic two-game suspension

Once a player accumulates two (2) points, the League Office will immediately: (i) notify his team by e-mail; and (ii) send the player a letter by overnight mail (with a copy to his Head Coach and General Manager), in each case advising of the player's current point total and the penalties for any additional flagrant fouls he may commit during the Playoffs.

The League Office will review all flagrant fouls ("1" and "2"), and will have the right, following review, to reclassify a flagrant foul or to classify as flagrant a foul not called flagrant during a game. In addition, the League Office maintains the right to impose a fine and/or suspension upon any player who commits a flagrant foul at any time during the Playoffs (regardless of whether the point levels described above are reached).

The League Office will consider the following factors (as well as any other relevant facts and circumstances) in determining whether to classify a foul as Flagrant "1" or Flagrant "2", to reclassify a flagrant foul, or to impose a fine and/or suspension on the player involved:

1. The severity of the contact;

2. Whether or not the player was making a legitimate basketball play (e.g., whether a player is making a legitimate effort to block a shot; note, however, that a foul committed during a block attempt can still be considered flagrant if other criteria are present such as recklessness and hard contact to the head);

3. Whether, on a foul committed with a player's arm or hand, the fouling player wound up and/or followed through after making contact;

4. The potential for injury resulting from contact (e.g., a blow to the head and a foul committed while a player is in a vulnerable position);

5. The severity of any injury suffered by the offended player; and

6. The outcome of the contact (e.g., whether it led to an altercation).

NOTE: Each team will continue to be held responsible for the actions of its players on the court. Accordingly, if any individual player or team (collectively) commits, in the judgment of the League Office, an excessive number of flagrant fouls during the Playoffs, the player and/or that team's Head Coach will be subject to appropriate fines and/or suspensions."
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 07, 2013, 06:38:58 PM
Rondo's stubbornness is a significant problem. People like that are prone to not take responsibility for their actions.

He is a great player and I'm glad to have him, but he is a bit of a loose cannon due to his temper issues and lack of respect for others. That is part of what makes him great, but it will also lead to him being suspended at moments like this.

Speaking as someone who can be a bit stubborn, I feel the need to stand up for stubborn people, here.  ;D

Sometimes stubbornness is actually a determination bred from knowing you're right. I'm not saying Rondo is blameless in this situation, or in any of his previous incidents, but there have been times when I know I'm right, but people keep saying I'm wrong, and it seems like an injustice to acquiesce to their bad judgments. It's hard to "let it go," even if that might be the better thing to do.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: danglertx on January 07, 2013, 06:39:35 PM
Whoops, that is the playoff rules. 
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: danglertx on January 07, 2013, 06:45:29 PM
Here we go, same idea.  So Garnet has 2pts and Smith 0.  Smith just whacked Rondo in the face and didn't hit the ball, Garnet actually blocked Hansborough's shot.  Doesn't seem kosher to me.


III. Discipline
A. Regular Season Flagrant Foul Guidelines – A player will receive one point for
Flagrant 1 fouls and two points for Flagrant 2 fouls. If the player’s season total
exceeds 5 points, he will receive an automatic suspension following the game in
which his point total exceeds 5 points and for each additional flagrant foul committed
during that season, as follows:
Player at 4 points commits a Flagrant 2 foul: automatic 1 game suspension
Player at 5 or 6 points commits a Flagrant 1 foul: automatic 1 game suspension
Player at 5 or 6 points commits a Flagrant 2 foul: automatic 2 game suspension
Player at 7 points or more commits a Flagrant 1 or 2 foul: automatic 2 game
suspension
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: KG Living Legend on January 07, 2013, 06:52:54 PM

 A big hand from Stern. As soon as he realized the Celtics were playing his beloved Knicks it was an easy decision to suspend him.

 Thanks Dave!
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 07, 2013, 07:30:35 PM
Even my wife saw Rondo rub the Ref..... I gasp ...becasue even though it was a "HEY BUDDY" type rub...in a friendly manor ...Neither Rondo or Ref really looked mad ....so I kinda passed it off. My thought is ROndo needs to stay 30 feet from the refs, just another case of LACK of consentration...He SHOULD have learned to STAY completely away form the refs last time so ,so another close contract incident wouldn't happen.... ???  What is wrong with ROndos BRAIN  ??? ::) 

The knee -jerk reaction to everything basically in our society is just getting too wierd .

That just shot the Celtics chance of winning  in the head at hte KNICKS :'(   .

He kills the team with incredible stupidiness .
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: Roy H. on January 07, 2013, 07:43:22 PM
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0107/nba_e_rondobump_gb1_600.jpg)

You can't go around bumping refs, but seriously, if the ref didn't have a problem with it at the time, let it go.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: jdz101 on January 07, 2013, 07:49:49 PM
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0107/nba_e_rondobump_gb1_600.jpg)

You can't go around bumping refs, but seriously, if the ref didn't have a problem with it at the time, let it go.

Wade has made that sort of contact several times with referees this season and received no sanction.

This is blatant favoritism. Not to mention the incident was after one of the worst refereeing calls I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: RJ87 on January 07, 2013, 08:01:34 PM
According to Doc, Rondo talked to the league about the incident.  Curiois to see what there definition of "uncooperative" means
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: wayupnorth on January 07, 2013, 08:05:44 PM
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0107/nba_e_rondobump_gb1_600.jpg)

You can't go around bumping refs, but seriously, if the ref didn't have a problem with it at the time, let it go.

Wade has made that sort of contact several times with referees this season and received no sanction.

This is blatant favoritism. Not to mention the incident was after one of the worst refereeing calls I've ever seen.

That is what just kills me about this. How can players know how to act, when different players can do different things. Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Howard, and a few others, can spend 15 seconds shouting at a ref, or staring them down, or spaking them playfully on the rear, and in general act like pretentious babies everytime they don't get a call. When Rondo or KG does something it is seen as so much worse than it is. KG gets flagrant 2 and not Josh Smith? I swear at least once a game LBJ aruges incessantly with a ref for 20 seconds and I have never seen him get a tech. KG gets techs for saying 2 words to the refs.

It is quickly becomming difficult to watch the NBA when the best players get treated differently than other players.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: cltc5 on January 07, 2013, 08:19:43 PM
next time just say all kinds of expletives to the ref.  It doesnt seem to hurt wade or lebron
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: kozlodoev on January 07, 2013, 08:54:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npc1CafBuC4

Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: kozlodoev on January 07, 2013, 08:58:30 PM
The report is that the suspension isn't because of the bump.

It's because of Rondos lack of cooperation in the follow up investigation of the bump.

Even if it was for the bump, I don't have an issue with it.  He has a previous track record and it was clearly intentional. 

This is 100% on Rondo.  Do not blame the league.  It's not the NBA's fault Rondo is an immature punk.


So much for being our leader.  *rolls eyes*
The suspension was quite clearly about the bump: "making contact with an official and failure to cooperate with the investigation".

No idea what they asked him though. Players make contact with officials in a non-confrontational manner all the time when they're discussing calls. This is just plain ridiculousness.
Title: Re: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
Post by: vinnie on January 07, 2013, 09:55:00 PM
He will NEVER be a leader until he grows up.