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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:28:25 PM
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For contact w/ an official and not cooperating w/ the league investigation, apparently.
Didn't hear anything about this at the time. Very odd. Also really annoying.
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for bumping ref in the atl game ughhh
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I beat you! :D
Also, this is mind-blowing. How does he keep doing this stuff?
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For contact w/ an official and not cooperating w/ the league investigation, apparently.
Didn't hear anything about this at the time. Very odd. Also really annoying.
Supposedly it happened during the 3Q of the Hawks game.
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I was keeping my mouth shut, but saw it coming.
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Embarrassing suspension.
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We got our little cousins here already. Very disappointing.
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Well, chalk tonight's game up as a loss, I guess. Frustrating, because it could have been a good one.
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I'll have to check out the video on it.
The "not cooperating" bit is strange to hear. Did he just refuse to talk to the league about it?
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We got our little cousins here already. Very disappointing.
Yeah. Not that this has been mentioned in rumors at all, but this sort of stuff means the Celtics probably couldn't even trade Rondo for Cousins if they wanted to. Doubt the Kings would consider trading one super talented hot-head for another.
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This is the most absurd thing I've ever seen.
http://www.nba.com/games/20130105/BOSATL/gameinfo.html
Happens at about 1:50 of the game highlights, not even notable.
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Rondo, you idiot!
Seriously, he needs to learn to respect authority.
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League and the officials clearly aren't cutting Rondo any slack, I just saw the video.
Anyone without his history doesn't get a peep about it, heck the ref might not have even put it in his after action report. But Rondo has a target on his back because of all his prior behavior.
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We've got a serial "bumper" on this team and people are worried about Cousins..
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This is the most absurd thing I've ever seen.
http://www.nba.com/games/20130105/BOSATL/gameinfo.html
Happens at about 1:50 of the game highlights, not even notable.
He deserves it. TP for the catch there. I didn't notice. He's a moron. With his history, there's absolutely no excuse for doing that. He has to know better.
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I love Rondo, but how dumb can he be?
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League and the officials clearly aren't cutting Rondo any slack, I just saw the video.
Anyone without his history doesn't get a peep about it, heck the ref might not have even put it in his after action report. But Rondo has a target on his back because of all his prior behavior.
This sounds like it is about not cooperating with the league, not the actual bump. And thats the part that is frustrating. I am sure if he just answered their questions, nothing would come from this. But instead, he is escalating things, and not making any friends in the league office.
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League and the officials clearly aren't cutting Rondo any slack, I just saw the video.
Anyone without his history doesn't get a peep about it, heck the ref might not have even put it in his after action report. But Rondo has a target on his back because of all his prior behavior.
They aren't cutting him any slack, but given his history, I don't think they have any reason to.
Whether you or I or Rondo think it is right or not, the fact is the league has this policy that the players must respect the refs. Rondo is by all accounts a very smart guy. He should know enough to make darn sure he doesn't touch an official. Ever.
The fact that he so casually walked up to the official and clearly didn't even make an effort not to bump into him just shows you how arrogant Rondo is. Unbelievable. Sometimes he really doesn't seem to think about the effect of his actions on his team.
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I Guess Rondo is sitting on plane to Mexico by now :p
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I Guess Rondo is sitting on plane to Mexico by now :p
Or to Sacramento ;)
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So how many times can rondo say sorry and have the team believe him?
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Does that mean he misses tonight's game or is he going to appeal?
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So how many times can rondo say sorry and have the team believe him?
What makes you think Rondo has ever said he's sorry to the team?
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nothing gets by the league.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L4RIGQJ_bnw#t=215s
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>:( stupeed
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So how many times can rondo say sorry and have the team believe him?
What makes you think Rondo has ever said he's sorry to the team?
The way he continues to do this stuff makes it pretty clear that he is not sorry nor does he think he's ever made a mistake.
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if wade or lebron had done that, nothing would been said. Rondo has to watch what he does now..NBA is watching him closely like they did with Rodman and Rasheed
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It looked as though the ref looked at Rondo after the "brush" to look at his number since he called him for a charge.
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Bummer.
But they are without Felton.
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Bummer.
But they are without Felton.
Fair point, but they have Kidd to run the show.
Celtics are gonna have to start Lee or Terry next to Bradley. Pierce will have to play point forward. Meh.
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Bummer.
But they are without Felton.
You say that like Felton's any good!
I suppose he's better than whatever guard is no in their rotation, but Felton this year hasn't been better than fat Felton last year.
He's just on a team that's winning.
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I love Rondo, but how dumb can he be?
...and selfish and petulant and irresponsible....consummate teammate? I dunno.
Sad.
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Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials. They fined him 15k for doing so.
You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that. That's a prick move on his part.
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Bummer.
But they are without Felton.
They at least have two other PGs.
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Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials. They fined him 15k for doing so.
You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that. That's a prick move on his part.
Maybe Ferry's mad, because he think we (KG,RR,PP,DOC) are tampering with JSmoove? ;)
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Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials. They fined him 15k for doing so.
You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that. That's a prick move on his part.
Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue? That's an important question, too.
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Let see AB or Barbosa how can they be able to subsitute Rondo
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Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials. They fined him 15k for doing so.
You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that. That's a prick move on his part.
Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue? That's an important question, too.
They're clearly trying to embarass him for something beyond the incident during the game.
Whether or not they'd have let him off with just a fine, is something we wont' know unless they leak/comment on it.
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Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials. They fined him 15k for doing so.
You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that. That's a prick move on his part.
Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue? That's an important question, too.
They're clearly trying to embarass him for something beyond the incident during the game.
Whether or not they'd have let him off with just a fine, is something we wont' know unless they leak/comment on it.
I have to agree because what was there to investigate?
There is video and it's their call what happens.
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Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials. They fined him 15k for doing so.
You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that. That's a prick move on his part.
Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue? That's an important question, too.
Yeah, I don't know what that's about. Rondo's behavior toward the league is starting to become a little alarming, I admit.
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I thought that you could appeal a suspension, and it didn't go into effect until the appeal was ruled upon.
Is that an old rule, or has that never been a rule?
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Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials. They fined him 15k for doing so.
You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that. That's a prick move on his part.
Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue? That's an important question, too.
They're clearly trying to embarass him for something beyond the incident during the game.
Whether or not they'd have let him off with just a fine, is something we wont' know unless they leak/comment on it.
Well, regardless, I can't excuse the bump of the official. In a vacuum, it's not a big deal, but given Rondo's history, it's unbelievably arrogant, stupid, and selfish.
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I thought that you could appeal a suspension, and it didn't go into effect until the appeal was ruled upon.
Is that an old rule, or has that never been a rule?
I think you're thinking NFL.
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I thought that you could appeal a suspension, and it didn't go into effect until the appeal was ruled upon.
Is that an old rule, or has that never been a rule?
I think you're thinking NFL.
You could appeal under the old CBA certainly, I'm not aware how the new CBA treats matters.
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Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials. They fined him 15k for doing so.
You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that. That's a prick move on his part.
Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue? That's an important question, too.
They're clearly trying to embarass him for something beyond the incident during the game.
Whether or not they'd have let him off with just a fine, is something we wont' know unless they leak/comment on it.
I have to agree because what was there to investigate?
There is video and it's their call what happens.
Not cooperate = He didnt answer the phone or use the probervial No Comments!
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Thanks Danny Ferry ::)
Hawks GM Danny Ferry is being fined $15,000 for being a snitch.
Rajon Rondo bumped referee Rodney Mott on Sunday night and he will pay the price for that by sitting out Monday night.
But after the game when it happened Ferry approached the referees and gave them the video of the play. The tattletale. But the league has a hard and fast rule about players or team officials approaching a referee after the game, for any reason, so he Ferry was given a $15,000 fine by the league.
The whole thing kind of makes me laugh, mostly because I don’t have to write the check.
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So I was right in chat! Sad that I'm right but everyone said he wouldn't be... :'(
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Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials. They fined him 15k for doing so.
You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that. That's a prick move on his part.
Well, if Rondo had "cooperated" with the league, whatever that means, would this have been an issue? That's an important question, too.
They're clearly trying to embarass him for something beyond the incident during the game.
Whether or not they'd have let him off with just a fine, is something we wont' know unless they leak/comment on it.
I have to agree because what was there to investigate?
There is video and it's their call what happens.
Not cooperate = He didnt answer the phone or use the probervial No Comments!
I doubt he just didn't answer the phone, because the PA would be pitching a hissy fit if he was losing salary for missing a phone call. Plus, they could always reach him through the team.
With Rondo's history, I think it is most likely that he mouthed off a bit to the league officials when they came asking about it.
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I noticed during the game, because the Hawks' commentators showed the replay like 3 times and moaned about the lack of a T.
Well, guess this is worse.
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Thanks Danny Ferry ::)
Hawks GM Danny Ferry is being fined $15,000 for being a snitch.
Rajon Rondo bumped referee Rodney Mott on Sunday night and he will pay the price for that by sitting out Monday night.
But after the game when it happened Ferry approached the referees and gave them the video of the play. The tattletale. But the league has a hard and fast rule about players or team officials approaching a referee after the game, for any reason, so he Ferry was given a $15,000 fine by the league.
The whole thing kind of makes me laugh, mostly because I don’t have to write the check.
I don't blame Ferry, I'd want ainge to do that. Rondo messed up.......again.
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This is supposed be our leader of the future? No wonder no other team wants to trade for him.
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could have been worse. He could have been thrown out of the ATL game which more than likely ends up a loss and then suspended for tonight on top of it. Cs will just have to dig deep and gut out a W tonight. I have a feeling Barbosa can give us good minutes.
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I noticed during the game, because the Hawks' commentators showed the replay like 3 times and moaned about the lack of a T.
Well, guess this is worse.
Yeah I noticed it during the game and thought the ref was letting it go. Then they went to the monitors but were checking something else. Non-event at the time. . Rondo must have told the league where to go when they went called after reviewing. Bizarro.
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I won't say the Cs can't win this game, and I'll still be cheering them on, but I'm figuring on the little win streak ending tonight. So much for momentum.
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I won't say the Cs can't win this game, and I'll still be cheering them on, but I'm figuring on the little win streak ending tonight. So much for momentum.
The C's played very well last year in the short stretch where Bradley started for Rondo, largely due to great defense, and Pierce putting the team on his shoulders.
Pierce happens to LOVE playing in MSG, and the teams defense got some swagger over the last few games, and they can now throw Bradley and Lee at the Knicks depleted backcourt.
I would not be surprised to see the C's come out on top tonight.
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I won't say the Cs can't win this game, and I'll still be cheering them on, but I'm figuring on the little win streak ending tonight. So much for momentum.
Well, the momentum is based on defense, which (sadly) Rondo has little to nothing to do with. It's still a good sign for the C's if they can hold down the Knicks to <90 points in a loss, playing good D for four quarters.
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if wade or lebron had done that, nothing would been said. Rondo has to watch what he does now..NBA is watching him closely like they did with Rodman and Rasheed
This on both parts. He's starting to get a rep like Sheed and he needs to control it fast because he can mess himself up badly especially with the refs.
Also like you stated LeBron nor Wade would have gotten anything called on them for this. Heck LeBron was arguing with a ref (there is video of it) during the Heat/Chicago game and nothing was called yet Durant was ejected after getting two techs for arguing with a ref during the Nets/Thunder game.
Also I wonder what is it with the Hawks higher ups and them not liking the Celtics? Their owner called out KG and the team last year and the GM told on Rondo.
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I won't say the Cs can't win this game, and I'll still be cheering them on, but I'm figuring on the little win streak ending tonight. So much for momentum.
Well, the momentum is based on defense, which (sadly) Rondo has little to nothing to do with. It's still a good sign for the C's if they can hold down the Knicks to <90 points in a loss, playing good D for four quarters.
Rondo has an awful lot to do with our defense, especially given that Terry/Barbosa are going to end up playing more minutes now.
Just going to make things tougher.
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Rondo has an awful lot to do with our defense, especially given that Terry/Barbosa are going to end up playing more minutes now.
Sure he does, but how much of it is good?
Terry was putting the opposing PG in a phone booth on Saturday. Doc has given props to Barbosa's D. Maybe we see a little less turnstile tonight, with Rondo out.
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Rondo has an awful lot to do with our defense, especially given that Terry/Barbosa are going to end up playing more minutes now.
Sure he does, but how much of it is good?
Terry was putting the opposing PG in a phone booth on Saturday. Doc has given props to Barbosa's D. Maybe we see a little less turnstile tonight, with Rondo out.
Barbosa played good defense for a game or two and then was back to his normal self. The Atlanta game was probably Terry's first good defensive game.
Rondo isn't nearly as consistent as KG/Bradley defensively, but he's a good defensive player. But people seem to think he should never get picked off or beat off the dribble.
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I love Rondo, but he REALLY has to stop this mess.
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absolutely ridiculous suspension
nba is a joke, watch the game again and count missed calls on really obvious stuff, if the ref thought he was bumped he would have called it
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Rondo gets 0 love from the league at all. can guarentee if lebron kobe rose or durant did that we wouldnt be having this conversation.
I heard a ref tell Lebron to walk away lebron death stared him and said dont talk to me like that. The ref then walked away. No tech, where is the consistency?
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pierce will take over
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absolutely ridiculous suspension
nba is a joke, watch the game again and count missed calls on really obvious stuff, if the ref thought he was bumped he would have called it
You mean like Josh Smith pimp slapping Rondo's face and the the refs not only didn't call a foul, but gave the ball to the Hawks?
If KG did that it would have been a flagrant 2 and an ejection. At least KG hit the ball. The League reviews those and yet no flagrant assessed to Smith, so I guess there wasn't really contact to Rondo's head?
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Rondo's stubbornness is a significant problem. People like that are prone to not take responsibility for their actions.
He is a great player and I'm glad to have him, but he is a bit of a loose cannon due to his temper issues and lack of respect for others. That is part of what makes him great, but it will also lead to him being suspended at moments like this.
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absolutely ridiculous suspension
nba is a joke, watch the game again and count missed calls on really obvious stuff, if the ref thought he was bumped he would have called it
You mean like Josh Smith pimp slapping Rondo's face and the the refs not only didn't call a foul, but gave the ball to the Hawks?
If KG did that it would have been a flagrant 2 and an ejection. At least KG hit the ball. The League reviews those and yet no flagrant assessed to Smith, so I guess there wasn't really contact to Rondo's head?
TP here exactly the case im talking about. the excuse for KG's flagrant 2 the other day the ref stated to doc "he hit him in the head, what do you want me to do"
Not to mention that its absurd that nothing was done one the court at the time of the altercation, i heard the announcers mention something about it be he was 5X the homer tommy is
The ref obviously didnt think it was a big deal then, why does it have to be one now.
Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. i cant wait till NBA front office gets gutted. Bring in some new officials that actually call the fairly and call things like palms, travels ect. its bullEdited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. today
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Sounds like the Hawks GM sent video of the bump to league officials. They fined him 15k for doing so.
You have to think this gets overlooked if Ferry doesn't do that. That's a prick move on his part.
He's going to get himself a reputation as a snitch.
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I'm probably the only one, (and I wish we had Rondo tonight), but I'm interested to see how Avery will perform without his buddy at point ... and will he still play the two?
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absolutely ridiculous suspension
nba is a joke, watch the game again and count missed calls on really obvious stuff, if the ref thought he was bumped he would have called it
You mean like Josh Smith pimp slapping Rondo's face and the the refs not only didn't call a foul, but gave the ball to the Hawks?
If KG did that it would have been a flagrant 2 and an ejection. At least KG hit the ball. The League reviews those and yet no flagrant assessed to Smith, so I guess there wasn't really contact to Rondo's head?
TP here exactly the case im talking about. the excuse for KG's flagrant 2 the other day the ref stated to doc "he hit him in the head, what do you want me to do"
Not to mention that its absurd that nothing was done one the court at the time of the altercation, i heard the announcers mention something about it be he was 5X the homer tommy is
The ref obviously didnt think it was a big deal then, why does it have to be one now.
**** i cant wait till NBA front office gets gutted. Bring in some new officials that actually call the fairly and call things like palms, travels ect. its bull**** today
KG's foul where Mike Gorman, upon seeing the replay, said straight out to Tommy, "That's a flagrant"?
Doesn't seem controversial to me.
The ref not making the call does not decide the issue. The ref might not want to impact the game in progress despite Rondo being way out of line. If the ref made a mistake, the league is rectifying it. Not a problem.
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What a load of BS. Don't recall Howard getting suspended for slapping a ref's butt. Same thing.
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absolutely ridiculous suspension
nba is a joke, watch the game again and count missed calls on really obvious stuff, if the ref thought he was bumped he would have called it
You mean like Josh Smith pimp slapping Rondo's face and the the refs not only didn't call a foul, but gave the ball to the Hawks?
If KG did that it would have been a flagrant 2 and an ejection. At least KG hit the ball. The League reviews those and yet no flagrant assessed to Smith, so I guess there wasn't really contact to Rondo's head?
TP here exactly the case im talking about. the excuse for KG's flagrant 2 the other day the ref stated to doc "he hit him in the head, what do you want me to do"
Not to mention that its absurd that nothing was done one the court at the time of the altercation, i heard the announcers mention something about it be he was 5X the homer tommy is
The ref obviously didnt think it was a big deal then, why does it have to be one now.
**** i cant wait till NBA front office gets gutted. Bring in some new officials that actually call the fairly and call things like palms, travels ect. its bull**** today
KG's foul where Mike Gorman, upon seeing the replay, said straight out to Tommy, "That's a flagrant"?
Doesn't seem controversial to me.
The ref not making the call does not decide the issue. The ref might not want to impact the game in progress despite Rondo being way out of line. If the ref made a mistake, the league is rectifying it. Not a problem.
The problem with you saying that is there is quite often no calls at key moments in games that would impact games in a different way where officials do make mistakes. And i know i should probably let it go but the hit wade did on rondo in game 2 of the east finals last year we had all the momentum wade clearly hits rondo in the head no call. Refs made a mistake league does nothing about it.
I agree that Garnetts flagrant should of been at least a flagrant 1 but a 2 was absurd.
Rondo probably should know by now that he shouldnt be doing things like this because this is what is going to happen.
Refs making mistakes is happening too much i would just like to see some consistency with calls come into play. Ie kg made a play on the ball hit someone in the head.....gets flagrant 2. Smith makes a play on the ball hits rondo in the face...... no call. difference?
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Yikes.
When I 1st saw this thread I thought it some sort of old thread that got brought back.
Can't say I recall seeing him do any such thing, obviously he must have though. Have to check the video when I get to a computer.
Rondo should know by now the league is after him. Stern loves to make examples of those whom he perceives as "bad apples".
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The report is that the suspension isn't because of the bump.
It's because of Rondos lack of cooperation in the follow up investigation of the bump.
Even if it was for the bump, I don't have an issue with it. He has a previous track record and it was clearly intentional.
This is 100% on Rondo. Do not blame the league. It's not the NBA's fault Rondo is an immature punk.
So much for being our leader. *rolls eyes*
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Way to ruin a great Celtics-Knicks game David Stern... ::)
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F the NBA. If they had decent officials Rondo wouldn't of had a reason to argue over the terrible call.
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could have been worse. He could have been thrown out of the ATL game which more than likely ends up a loss and then suspended for tonight on top of it. Cs will just have to dig deep and gut out a W tonight. I have a feeling Barbosa can give us good minutes.
Well if it were actually a bump he would have been thrown out. He wasn't thrown out because it was incidental contact. In fact, I'm not sure the way it looks if the official didn't make the initial move to make the contact. And the second 'touch' is them just walking closely together. If the official felt any aggression at all he would have tossed him. This was nothing like the bump incident. I'll be interested in hearing more about the refual to cooperate part.
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absolutely ridiculous suspension
nba is a joke, watch the game again and count missed calls on really obvious stuff, if the ref thought he was bumped he would have called it
You mean like Josh Smith pimp slapping Rondo's face and the the refs not only didn't call a foul, but gave the ball to the Hawks?
If KG did that it would have been a flagrant 2 and an ejection. At least KG hit the ball. The League reviews those and yet no flagrant assessed to Smith, so I guess there wasn't really contact to Rondo's head?
TP here exactly the case im talking about. the excuse for KG's flagrant 2 the other day the ref stated to doc "he hit him in the head, what do you want me to do"
Not to mention that its absurd that nothing was done one the court at the time of the altercation, i heard the announcers mention something about it be he was 5X the homer tommy is
The ref obviously didnt think it was a big deal then, why does it have to be one now.
**** i cant wait till NBA front office gets gutted. Bring in some new officials that actually call the fairly and call things like palms, travels ect. its bull**** today
KG's foul where Mike Gorman, upon seeing the replay, said straight out to Tommy, "That's a flagrant"?
Doesn't seem controversial to me.
The ref not making the call does not decide the issue. The ref might not want to impact the game in progress despite Rondo being way out of line. If the ref made a mistake, the league is rectifying it. Not a problem.
You misunderstand me, I'm not saying Garnet's shouldn't have been a flagrant 2. If any hit to the head is a flagrant 2 then fine.
What I am saying is that the league reviews the game. On seeing Smith slap Rondo in the face he should be assessed a flagrant 2. I haven't heard that it happened. There is no reason Garnet should have a flagrant 2 and not Smith.
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This is why it is important.
"A. Flagrant Foul Rules
There are two types of Flagrant Fouls, as follows:
Flagrant "1" (FFP1) - unnecessary contact committed by a player against an opponent. The opposing team is awarded two (2) free throws and possession.
Flagrant "2" (FFP2) - unnecessary and excessive contact committed by a player against an opponent. The opposing team is awarded two (2) free throws and possession and the player committing the foul is automatically ejected.
Any player who commits two Flagrant "1" Fouls in the same game will be automatically ejected from that game.
In addition, in order to address the problem of repeat offenders, the following three-point system will be in effect during the 2010 Playoffs:
• Flagrant "1" = 1 point
• Flagrant "2" = 2 points
A player will receive the points set forth above for each flagrant foul committed during the Playoffs. If the player's Playoff total exceeds 3 points, he will receive an automatic suspension following the game in which his point total exceeds 3 points and for each additional flagrant foul committed during the Playoffs, as follows:
Player at 2 points commits a FFP2: automatic one-game suspension
Player at 3 or 4 points commits a FFP1: automatic one-game suspension
Player at 3 or 4 points commits a FFP2: automatic two-game suspension
Player at 5 points or more commits a FFP1 or FFP2: automatic two-game suspension
Once a player accumulates two (2) points, the League Office will immediately: (i) notify his team by e-mail; and (ii) send the player a letter by overnight mail (with a copy to his Head Coach and General Manager), in each case advising of the player's current point total and the penalties for any additional flagrant fouls he may commit during the Playoffs.
The League Office will review all flagrant fouls ("1" and "2"), and will have the right, following review, to reclassify a flagrant foul or to classify as flagrant a foul not called flagrant during a game. In addition, the League Office maintains the right to impose a fine and/or suspension upon any player who commits a flagrant foul at any time during the Playoffs (regardless of whether the point levels described above are reached).
The League Office will consider the following factors (as well as any other relevant facts and circumstances) in determining whether to classify a foul as Flagrant "1" or Flagrant "2", to reclassify a flagrant foul, or to impose a fine and/or suspension on the player involved:
1. The severity of the contact;
2. Whether or not the player was making a legitimate basketball play (e.g., whether a player is making a legitimate effort to block a shot; note, however, that a foul committed during a block attempt can still be considered flagrant if other criteria are present such as recklessness and hard contact to the head);
3. Whether, on a foul committed with a player's arm or hand, the fouling player wound up and/or followed through after making contact;
4. The potential for injury resulting from contact (e.g., a blow to the head and a foul committed while a player is in a vulnerable position);
5. The severity of any injury suffered by the offended player; and
6. The outcome of the contact (e.g., whether it led to an altercation).
NOTE: Each team will continue to be held responsible for the actions of its players on the court. Accordingly, if any individual player or team (collectively) commits, in the judgment of the League Office, an excessive number of flagrant fouls during the Playoffs, the player and/or that team's Head Coach will be subject to appropriate fines and/or suspensions."
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Rondo's stubbornness is a significant problem. People like that are prone to not take responsibility for their actions.
He is a great player and I'm glad to have him, but he is a bit of a loose cannon due to his temper issues and lack of respect for others. That is part of what makes him great, but it will also lead to him being suspended at moments like this.
Speaking as someone who can be a bit stubborn, I feel the need to stand up for stubborn people, here. ;D
Sometimes stubbornness is actually a determination bred from knowing you're right. I'm not saying Rondo is blameless in this situation, or in any of his previous incidents, but there have been times when I know I'm right, but people keep saying I'm wrong, and it seems like an injustice to acquiesce to their bad judgments. It's hard to "let it go," even if that might be the better thing to do.
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Whoops, that is the playoff rules.
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Here we go, same idea. So Garnet has 2pts and Smith 0. Smith just whacked Rondo in the face and didn't hit the ball, Garnet actually blocked Hansborough's shot. Doesn't seem kosher to me.
III. Discipline
A. Regular Season Flagrant Foul Guidelines – A player will receive one point for
Flagrant 1 fouls and two points for Flagrant 2 fouls. If the player’s season total
exceeds 5 points, he will receive an automatic suspension following the game in
which his point total exceeds 5 points and for each additional flagrant foul committed
during that season, as follows:
Player at 4 points commits a Flagrant 2 foul: automatic 1 game suspension
Player at 5 or 6 points commits a Flagrant 1 foul: automatic 1 game suspension
Player at 5 or 6 points commits a Flagrant 2 foul: automatic 2 game suspension
Player at 7 points or more commits a Flagrant 1 or 2 foul: automatic 2 game
suspension
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A big hand from Stern. As soon as he realized the Celtics were playing his beloved Knicks it was an easy decision to suspend him.
Thanks Dave!
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Even my wife saw Rondo rub the Ref..... I gasp ...becasue even though it was a "HEY BUDDY" type rub...in a friendly manor ...Neither Rondo or Ref really looked mad ....so I kinda passed it off. My thought is ROndo needs to stay 30 feet from the refs, just another case of LACK of consentration...He SHOULD have learned to STAY completely away form the refs last time so ,so another close contract incident wouldn't happen.... ??? What is wrong with ROndos BRAIN ??? ::)
The knee -jerk reaction to everything basically in our society is just getting too wierd .
That just shot the Celtics chance of winning in the head at hte KNICKS :'( .
He kills the team with incredible stupidiness .
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You can't go around bumping refs, but seriously, if the ref didn't have a problem with it at the time, let it go.
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You can't go around bumping refs, but seriously, if the ref didn't have a problem with it at the time, let it go.
Wade has made that sort of contact several times with referees this season and received no sanction.
This is blatant favoritism. Not to mention the incident was after one of the worst refereeing calls I've ever seen.
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According to Doc, Rondo talked to the league about the incident. Curiois to see what there definition of "uncooperative" means
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You can't go around bumping refs, but seriously, if the ref didn't have a problem with it at the time, let it go.
Wade has made that sort of contact several times with referees this season and received no sanction.
This is blatant favoritism. Not to mention the incident was after one of the worst refereeing calls I've ever seen.
That is what just kills me about this. How can players know how to act, when different players can do different things. Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Howard, and a few others, can spend 15 seconds shouting at a ref, or staring them down, or spaking them playfully on the rear, and in general act like pretentious babies everytime they don't get a call. When Rondo or KG does something it is seen as so much worse than it is. KG gets flagrant 2 and not Josh Smith? I swear at least once a game LBJ aruges incessantly with a ref for 20 seconds and I have never seen him get a tech. KG gets techs for saying 2 words to the refs.
It is quickly becomming difficult to watch the NBA when the best players get treated differently than other players.
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next time just say all kinds of expletives to the ref. It doesnt seem to hurt wade or lebron
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npc1CafBuC4
Ridiculous.
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The report is that the suspension isn't because of the bump.
It's because of Rondos lack of cooperation in the follow up investigation of the bump.
Even if it was for the bump, I don't have an issue with it. He has a previous track record and it was clearly intentional.
This is 100% on Rondo. Do not blame the league. It's not the NBA's fault Rondo is an immature punk.
So much for being our leader. *rolls eyes*
The suspension was quite clearly about the bump: "making contact with an official and failure to cooperate with the investigation".
No idea what they asked him though. Players make contact with officials in a non-confrontational manner all the time when they're discussing calls. This is just plain ridiculousness.
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He will NEVER be a leader until he grows up.