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Title: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: LEHGOCELTICS on January 07, 2013, 03:45:37 PM
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Lakers just announced Dwight Howard (torn labrum) and Pau Gasol (concussion) are out indefinitely. Season getting no simpler in Lakerland


-via ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein

Oh you Lakers you. You were gonna lose against HOU, OKC, and SAS with them anyways, didn't need any more help losing.  ;D
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: j804 on January 07, 2013, 03:47:33 PM
How big is that Howard injury? I think this was the final dagger in that they aren't making the playoffs
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Donoghus on January 07, 2013, 03:49:36 PM
"The wheels on the bus are coming off...coming off...coming off!"
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Roy H. on January 07, 2013, 03:50:19 PM
Sucks for a couple of my fantasy teams.  Otherwise, it couldn't happen to a more deserving team.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 07, 2013, 03:52:50 PM
Wow - who will they start in the meantime?  Jordan Hill and...I guess Jamison if you're going small, who will be eaten alive by just about any starting 4 in the league? 

My pipe dream that the Lakers would miss the playoffs altogether is starting to seem more plausible.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Kane3387 on January 07, 2013, 03:55:12 PM
Currently 15-18.

Coming soon: @Houston, @ San Antonio, OKC. Then they play Cleveland (beat LA already), Milwaukee, and Miami.

At best without their twin towers this team is looking at 1-5 and and potentially 16-23 with basically half their season done.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: prov1ml34 on January 07, 2013, 03:56:13 PM
Wow - who will they start in the meantime?  Jordan Hill and...I guess Jamison if you're going small, who will be eaten alive by just about any starting 4 in the league? 

My pipe dream that the Lakers would miss the playoffs altogether is starting to seem more plausible.

This was retweeted by Marc Spears....apparently Jordan Hill is hurt too. Just icing on the cake since they are going to get annihilated in the paint!

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Elliott Teaford ‏@ElliottTeaford
Dwight Howard has torn labrum, Pau Gasol has a concussion and Jordan Hill has a hip injury. Just another day on Lakersland.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Fafnir on January 07, 2013, 03:57:13 PM
They seriously could be entering the position to tank this season depending on how bad Howard's shoulder is.

If they were to win the lottery I'd puke.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: prov1ml34 on January 07, 2013, 03:58:11 PM
I actually don't know if I want LA to miss the playoffs. About the time they do, they will be gifted the #1 pick with a .00004% chance of getting it. Stern's last "decision" as Commissioner!
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on January 07, 2013, 03:59:50 PM
No Lakers in the playoffs? I am almost foaming but who knows. Maybe they have trade ideas of their own.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 07, 2013, 04:06:23 PM
Wow - who will they start in the meantime?  Jordan Hill and...I guess Jamison if you're going small, who will be eaten alive by just about any starting 4 in the league? 

My pipe dream that the Lakers would miss the playoffs altogether is starting to seem more plausible.

This was retweeted by Marc Spears....apparently Jordan Hill is hurt too. Just icing on the cake since they are going to get annihilated in the paint!

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Elliott Teaford ‏@ElliottTeaford
Dwight Howard has torn labrum, Pau Gasol has a concussion and Jordan Hill has a hip injury. Just another day on Lakersland.


Sounds like a steady diet of Sacre for them and schadenfreude for us, then.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: CelticsFan9 on January 07, 2013, 04:09:12 PM
Did Howard year his labrum last night?  Watching the game I didn't notice anything.

Looks like Nash and Kobe are going to have to take over.  Not sure how that's going to pan out.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: barefacedmonk on January 07, 2013, 04:10:55 PM
Mitch Kupchak can still pull off another highway robbery  before/at the trade deadline and turn this around.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: indeedproceed on January 07, 2013, 04:12:08 PM
My pipe dream is that the Lakers narrowly miss the playoffs and land the 13th overall pick.

"Can Michael Carter-Williams Save The Lakers?" - J.A. Adande, 9-21-13, ESPN
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Lucky17 on January 07, 2013, 04:13:15 PM
Wow - who will they start in the meantime?  Jordan Hill and...I guess Jamison if you're going small, who will be eaten alive by just about any starting 4 in the league? 

My pipe dream that the Lakers would miss the playoffs altogether is starting to seem more plausible.

This was retweeted by Marc Spears....apparently Jordan Hill is hurt too. Just icing on the cake since they are going to get annihilated in the paint!

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Elliott Teaford ‏@ElliottTeaford
Dwight Howard has torn labrum, Pau Gasol has a concussion and Jordan Hill has a hip injury. Just another day on Lakersland.


Sounds like a steady diet of Sacre for them and schadenfreude for us, then.

Mmmm. I love schadenfreude. Mit schlag, bitte?
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: celtsfan84 on January 07, 2013, 04:13:47 PM
They seriously could be entering the position to tank this season depending on how bad Howard's shoulder is.

If they were to win the lottery I'd puke.

If the Lakers win the lottery, Phoenix would pick first (via the Steve Nash trade).

I have nothing against Phoenix and the Lakers have little incentive to tank for the benefit of the Suns.

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2013 first round draft pick from L.A. Lakers
The L.A. Lakers will send the least favorable of their own 1st round pick (top-14 protected), Cleveland's own 2013 1st round pick, Sacramento's own 1st round pick (top-13 protected) and Miami's 2013 1st round pick to Phoenix. If the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick is within the top-14 selections, Phoenix will automatically receive the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick. [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012]

via RealGM
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: CelticsFan9 on January 07, 2013, 04:15:48 PM
They seriously could be entering the position to tank this season depending on how bad Howard's shoulder is.

If they were to win the lottery I'd puke.

If the Lakers win the lottery, Phoenix would pick first (via the Steve Nash trade).

I have nothing against Phoenix.

I totally forgot that LA traded all those picks.

Man, if Dwight bounces, the Lakers are screwed for the next couple seasons, barring a trade.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Kane3387 on January 07, 2013, 04:16:00 PM
They seriously could be entering the position to tank this season depending on how bad Howard's shoulder is.

If they were to win the lottery I'd puke.

If the Lakers win the lottery, Phoenix would pick first (via the Steve Nash trade).

I have nothing against Phoenix and the Lakers have little incentive to tank for the benefit of the Suns.

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2013 first round draft pick from L.A. Lakers
The L.A. Lakers will send the least favorable of their own 1st round pick (top-14 protected), Cleveland's own 2013 1st round pick, Sacramento's own 1st round pick (top-13 protected) and Miami's 2013 1st round pick to Phoenix. If the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick is within the top-14 selections, Phoenix will automatically receive the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick. [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012]

via RealGM

So LA's pick isn't protected? Wow. Irony.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: PhoSita on January 07, 2013, 04:17:44 PM
Man, what a train wreck for the Lakers. 

Seems like they could really be in danger of losing Dwight in free agency if this keeps up.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Lucky17 on January 07, 2013, 04:18:23 PM
Meanwhile, was that Mike D'Antoni leading the "We Want Phil!" chants last night? Bet he's seriously regretting assuming command of the SS Dwightanic.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 07, 2013, 04:24:12 PM
They seriously could be entering the position to tank this season depending on how bad Howard's shoulder is.

If they were to win the lottery I'd puke.

If the Lakers win the lottery, Phoenix would pick first (via the Steve Nash trade).

I have nothing against Phoenix and the Lakers have little incentive to tank for the benefit of the Suns.

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2013 first round draft pick from L.A. Lakers
The L.A. Lakers will send the least favorable of their own 1st round pick (top-14 protected), Cleveland's own 2013 1st round pick, Sacramento's own 1st round pick (top-13 protected) and Miami's 2013 1st round pick to Phoenix. If the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick is within the top-14 selections, Phoenix will automatically receive the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick. [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012]

via RealGM

So LA's pick isn't protected? Wow. Irony.

That is a dense web of conditionals but it looks like it is lottery-protected from just about everyone but Phoenix.  But I was wondering about that, thanks celtsfan84
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Fafnir on January 07, 2013, 04:27:17 PM
They seriously could be entering the position to tank this season depending on how bad Howard's shoulder is.

If they were to win the lottery I'd puke.

If the Lakers win the lottery, Phoenix would pick first (via the Steve Nash trade).

I have nothing against Phoenix and the Lakers have little incentive to tank for the benefit of the Suns.

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2013 first round draft pick from L.A. Lakers
The L.A. Lakers will send the least favorable of their own 1st round pick (top-14 protected), Cleveland's own 2013 1st round pick, Sacramento's own 1st round pick (top-13 protected) and Miami's 2013 1st round pick to Phoenix. If the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick is within the top-14 selections, Phoenix will automatically receive the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick. [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012]

via RealGM

So LA's pick isn't protected? Wow. Irony.

That is a dense web of conditionals but it looks like it is lottery-protected from just about everyone but Phoenix.  But I was wondering about that, thanks celtsfan84
Wow I figured they'd lottery protect them to at least some level.

Its nice to know I can root for them to lose as many as I like thanks!
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: celtsfan84 on January 07, 2013, 04:31:18 PM
They seriously could be entering the position to tank this season depending on how bad Howard's shoulder is.

If they were to win the lottery I'd puke.

If the Lakers win the lottery, Phoenix would pick first (via the Steve Nash trade).

I have nothing against Phoenix and the Lakers have little incentive to tank for the benefit of the Suns.

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2013 first round draft pick from L.A. Lakers
The L.A. Lakers will send the least favorable of their own 1st round pick (top-14 protected), Cleveland's own 2013 1st round pick, Sacramento's own 1st round pick (top-13 protected) and Miami's 2013 1st round pick to Phoenix. If the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick is within the top-14 selections, Phoenix will automatically receive the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick. [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012]

via RealGM

So LA's pick isn't protected? Wow. Irony.

That is a dense web of conditionals but it looks like it is lottery-protected from just about everyone but Phoenix.  But I was wondering about that, thanks celtsfan84
Wow I figured they'd lottery protect them to at least some level.

Its nice to know I can root for them to lose as many as I like thanks!

Yeah, it's pretty stunning.  Phoenix might end up winning the Steve Nash trade by a pretty wide margin.  The link is below for all future draft picks.  I haven't found a second source but RealGM is typically pretty good.

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed (http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed)
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Nowee on January 07, 2013, 04:31:48 PM
In february i'm going to travel from the Netherlands to Boston to see them play against the Lakers and 2 other teams. The constant Laker injuries increase my changes of seeing the Celtics win against the Lakers. A win will be a dream come true. Or im i just cruel?
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: prov1ml34 on January 07, 2013, 05:19:42 PM
Didn't even factor in the pick implications....on 2nd thought I would love for them to miss the playoffs and win the lottery so they can have that ripped from them as well.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: JHTruth on January 07, 2013, 05:24:54 PM
If the Lakeshow misses the playoffs their pick goes to the Suns. Oh the humanity!!
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 07, 2013, 05:25:15 PM
Wow...I'd hate to see them go out like this, but considering how BOS has been cheated of Rings, Banners, etc - due to injuries......
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 07, 2013, 05:29:40 PM
Dwightanic.

Awesome. TP.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 07, 2013, 05:33:03 PM
Wow...I'd hate to see them go out like this, but considering how BOS has been cheated of Rings, Banners, etc - due to injuries......

Yeah, no joke. KG's knee and Shaq's Achilles cost them (I figure) 2, maybe 3 rings.

Not to mention all the top-name bigs the Lakers get.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 07, 2013, 05:41:01 PM
Wow...I'd hate to see them go out like this, but considering how BOS has been cheated of Rings, Banners, etc - due to injuries......

Yeah, no joke. KG's knee and Shaq's Achilles cost them (I figure) 2, maybe 3 rings.

Not to mention all the top-name bigs the Lakers get.

Exactly.

I still cry when I think about 08-09. That team had a 19 game winning streak....looked unstoppable, even with a thin bench.

TA was playing well..

We probably could've repeated THEN with a bench of Mikki Moore and Stephon Marbury :o

Lakers are in dire straits. Even with Dr. Buss' deep pockets, I don't see how he can pull a rabbit out of the hat with THIS situation.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Fafnir on January 07, 2013, 05:42:57 PM
Wow...I'd hate to see them go out like this, but considering how BOS has been cheated of Rings, Banners, etc - due to injuries......

Yeah, no joke. KG's knee and Shaq's Achilles cost them (I figure) 2, maybe 3 rings.

Not to mention all the top-name bigs the Lakers get.

Exactly.

I still cry when I think about 08-09. That team had a 27 game winning streak....looked unstoppable, even with a thin bench.
19 game winning streak.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 07, 2013, 05:48:12 PM
Wow...I'd hate to see them go out like this, but considering how BOS has been cheated of Rings, Banners, etc - due to injuries......

Yeah, no joke. KG's knee and Shaq's Achilles cost them (I figure) 2, maybe 3 rings.

Not to mention all the top-name bigs the Lakers get.

Exactly.

I still cry when I think about 08-09. That team had a 27 game winning streak....looked unstoppable, even with a thin bench.
19 game winning streak.

Thanks - I made a booboo.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 07, 2013, 05:51:24 PM
Edit: Wrong thread.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Bankshot on January 07, 2013, 05:52:23 PM
Watch they miss the playoffs and Stern makes sure they get the #1 pick. >:(
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: RyNye on January 07, 2013, 05:58:14 PM
Watch they miss the playoffs and Stern makes sure they get the #1 pick. >:(

I hope they DO get the #1 pick, because it promptly goes to the Phoenix Suns. As much as we like to joke, it's not like they ACTUALLY got Nash for nothing (just as close to nothing as is physically possible)
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 07, 2013, 05:58:30 PM
Watch they miss the playoffs and Stern makes sure they get the #1 pick. >:(

lol...if THAT happens, then I'm starting to believe the conspiracy theorists around here on the Blog..

The funny thing is that even IF that happens, there is no way that LA can cheat Father Time - just ask BOS.

LA is looking at a 35 year-old, banged up Kobe, and a 39 or 40 year old Nash next year.

You can only prop open the window but so much before it breaks.

At least Danny did a fine job shoring up BOS over the summer. Sully has played well, Green has been a decent sub for Pierce, and Jet and Lee have helped.

LA is in trouble.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 07, 2013, 06:05:13 PM
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Yeah, no joke. KG's knee and Shaq's Achilles cost them (I figure) 2, maybe 3 rings.

And Perk's knee, too(09-10)...seeing him on the sideline in street clothes while Kobe and Pau played volleyball in that game 7 brings back bad memories...Sheed played well, but was done after that 1st qtr...seeing KG barely able to jump.....
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: xmuscularghandix on January 07, 2013, 06:18:54 PM
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Yeah, no joke. KG's knee and Shaq's Achilles cost them (I figure) 2, maybe 3 rings.

And Perk's knee, too(09-10)...seeing him on the sideline in street clothes while Kobe and Pau played volleyball in that game 7 brings back bad memories...Sheed played well, but was done after that 1st qtr...seeing KG barely able to jump.....

KG had 3 rebounds in that game... notch 2010 to KG's knee as well.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: RebusRankin on January 07, 2013, 06:29:58 PM
Is it wrong that the Laker's pain makes me happy? Am I a bad person?
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 07, 2013, 06:35:45 PM
Is it wrong that the Laker's pain makes me happy? Am I a bad person?

I can understand where you're coming from.

As a BOS fan, seeing our bitter rivals having to go through some of the same things we've gone through since 08-09, it does give you a sense of balance, I'd say.

Perhaps BOS isn't the only team that has crippling injuries.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: timobusa on January 07, 2013, 06:43:37 PM
bye bye lakers
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Neurotic Guy on January 07, 2013, 06:52:16 PM
Mitch Kupchak can still pull off another highway robbery  before/at the trade deadline and turn this around.

True, but depending on how bad the shoulder turns out to be, Howard is virtually untradeable as he will possibly provide nothing this year and then will be an FA.  Who would trade a bundle for that?  Gasol has been playing below par and now has a concussion. If the concussion resolves quickly and he returns to form, he'll be a valuable chip, but has a $19M salary that needs to be matched somehow.  I don't think teams are going to give top talent for him.  At best, Lakers get a few roles players.  Lakers probably see a better light at the end of the tunnel waiting for his contract to expire.  Kobe may be their top trade chip!  Of course that's 21M to match.

I would love to see the Lakers go down hard and see Dwight leave at the end of this year -- that would be the best. 
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: OsirusCeltics on January 07, 2013, 07:02:27 PM
"The wheels on the bus are coming off...coming off...coming off!"

Hahahahaha

TP, that made my ribs hurt
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Edgar on January 07, 2013, 07:43:03 PM
Who they have they only have
Nash, Kobe, Clark, Ebanks, Morris, Meeks, Duhon ,World Peace and Jamison
available

ebanks and Morris never play

they tallest player are Jamison and Artest ouch
Sacre is on NBDL anaheim right now i think
how are they going to face a road trip with 8 players


Theyre somehow screwed with

Howard, Gasol, hill,  Johson Odom, Blake and Sacre out
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Roy H. on January 07, 2013, 07:44:18 PM
Who they have they only have
Nash, Kobe, Clark, Ebanks, Morris, Meeks, Duhon ,World Peace and Jamison
available

ebanks and Morris never play

they tallest player are Jamison and Artest ouch
Sacre is on NBDL anaheim right now i think
how are they going to face a road trip with 8 players


Theyre somehow screwed with

Howard, Gasol, hill,  Johson Odom, Blake and Sacre out

Yeah, there's talk of them starting Artest at center.  Crazy talk.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 07, 2013, 08:05:45 PM
Is it wrong that the Laker's pain makes me happy? Am I a bad person?

No...thier luck and help and karma has finally run out ...I never saw a team get EVERYTHING they want or need when they need it the most.  It almost like the ALiens or something mystic is going on.
Its time for the Laker Nation to watch from the sidelines a while like the rest of us did for 23 years.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: slamtheking on January 07, 2013, 08:32:10 PM
Is it wrong that the Laker's pain makes me happy? Am I a bad person?

No...thier luck and help and karma has finally run out ...I never saw a team get EVERYTHING they want or need when they need it the most.  It almost like the ALiens or something mystic is going on.
Its time for the Laker Nation to watch from the sidelines a while like the rest of us did for 23 years.
Don't be surprised if LA misses the playoffs then wins the draft lottery  :P
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Edgar on January 07, 2013, 08:34:55 PM
Who they have they only have
Nash, Kobe, Clark, Ebanks, Morris, Meeks, Duhon ,World Peace and Jamison
available

ebanks and Morris never play

they tallest player are Jamison and Artest ouch
Sacre is on NBDL anaheim right now i think
how are they going to face a road trip with 8 players


Theyre somehow screwed with

Howard, Gasol, hill,  Johson Odom, Blake and Sacre out

Yeah, there's talk of them starting Artest at center.  Crazy talk.

as Jamison is playing 4 minutes a game, is Artest or Kobe.
 :P
or soon to be a laker, Vernado... ;D
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 07, 2013, 08:37:04 PM
Is it wrong that the Laker's pain makes me happy? Am I a bad person?

No...thier luck and help and karma has finally run out ...I never saw a team get EVERYTHING they want or need when they need it the most.  It almost like the ALiens or something mystic is going on.
Its time for the Laker Nation to watch from the sidelines a while like the rest of us did for 23 years.
Don't be surprised if LA misses the playoffs then wins the draft lottery  :P

actually DH will be back I read in a week or so, so hopefully they lose about 6-7 games pver the next 2 weeks , enough to SINK there SHIP  , but allow them misss the lottery. ;D
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Kane3387 on January 07, 2013, 09:15:24 PM
Suns have their pick via Nash trade so let them make the lottery.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: slamtheking on January 07, 2013, 09:51:03 PM
Suns have their pick via Nash trade so let them make the lottery.
hope so and that's it's not protected.  that would be a sweet way to kick them when they're down  ;D
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Who on January 07, 2013, 10:46:52 PM
They seriously could be entering the position to tank this season depending on how bad Howard's shoulder is.

If they were to win the lottery I'd puke.

If the Lakers win the lottery, Phoenix would pick first (via the Steve Nash trade).

I have nothing against Phoenix and the Lakers have little incentive to tank for the benefit of the Suns.

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2013 first round draft pick from L.A. Lakers
The L.A. Lakers will send the least favorable of their own 1st round pick (top-14 protected), Cleveland's own 2013 1st round pick, Sacramento's own 1st round pick (top-13 protected) and Miami's 2013 1st round pick to Phoenix. If the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick is within the top-14 selections, Phoenix will automatically receive the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick. [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012]

via RealGM
Oh wow, that's gotta suck for LA. No upside anywhere for them then.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Who on January 07, 2013, 10:53:26 PM
Who they have they only have
Nash, Kobe, Clark, Ebanks, Morris, Meeks, Duhon ,World Peace and Jamison
available

ebanks and Morris never play

they tallest player are Jamison and Artest ouch
Sacre is on NBDL anaheim right now i think
how are they going to face a road trip with 8 players


Theyre somehow screwed with

Howard, Gasol, hill,  Johson Odom, Blake and Sacre out

Yeah, there's talk of them starting Artest at center.  Crazy talk.

They should sign Chris Andersen.

Even on a 10 day contract or something. Let Andersen show the rest of the league he can still be a valuable contributor. Just get it done quickly and put him out on the floor while Pau Gasol and Jordan Hill are out (short term injuries?).
 
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Edgar on January 08, 2013, 08:49:40 AM
Who they have they only have
Nash, Kobe, Clark, Ebanks, Morris, Meeks, Duhon ,World Peace and Jamison
available

ebanks and Morris never play

they tallest player are Jamison and Artest ouch
Sacre is on NBDL anaheim right now i think
how are they going to face a road trip with 8 players


Theyre somehow screwed with

Howard, Gasol, hill,  Johson Odom, Blake and Sacre out

Yeah, there's talk of them starting Artest at center.  Crazy talk.

They should sign Chris Andersen.

Even on a 10 day contract or something. Let Andersen show the rest of the league he can still be a valuable contributor. Just get it done quickly and put him out on the floor while Pau Gasol and Jordan Hill are out (short term injuries?).

we should sign Andersen----fast.
HEs another fighter in this bar fight
seems like roster is finally getting along
hope Rondo heart is included in this one

Anyone knows if they recall Sacre for tonights game, or theyre going 8 against 14. I will be watching that game...its a must today.

Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Fafnir on January 08, 2013, 08:52:21 AM
Howard/Hill out a week, and who knows with Gasol's concussion those can be two or three days or linger for a long time. Didn't Doug Collins have issues for over a month?
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: kozlodoev on January 08, 2013, 08:54:29 AM
Howard/Hill out a week, and who knows with Gasol's concussion those can be two or three days or linger for a long time. Didn't Doug Collins have issues for over a month?
Given that a concussion practically ended Marc Savard's career, it all depends on the severity.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Who on January 08, 2013, 09:25:58 AM
Who they have they only have
Nash, Kobe, Clark, Ebanks, Morris, Meeks, Duhon ,World Peace and Jamison
available

ebanks and Morris never play

they tallest player are Jamison and Artest ouch
Sacre is on NBDL anaheim right now i think
how are they going to face a road trip with 8 players


Theyre somehow screwed with

Howard, Gasol, hill,  Johson Odom, Blake and Sacre out

Yeah, there's talk of them starting Artest at center.  Crazy talk.

They should sign Chris Andersen.

Even on a 10 day contract or something. Let Andersen show the rest of the league he can still be a valuable contributor. Just get it done quickly and put him out on the floor while Pau Gasol and Jordan Hill are out (short term injuries?).

we should sign Andersen----fast.
HEs another fighter in this bar fight
seems like roster is finally getting along
hope Rondo heart is included in this one

Anyone knows if they recall Sacre for tonights game, or theyre going 8 against 14. I will be watching that game...its a must today.

Yeah, they've recalled Sacre and said that he'll be starting at center.

Ron Artest is supposedly going to play some center for them as well. That is the lineup I can't wait to see.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Snakehead on January 08, 2013, 09:30:01 AM
I love watching the Lakers lineup when they have injuries.  So pitiful.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: AshyLarry on January 08, 2013, 10:18:18 AM
In february i'm going to travel from the Netherlands to Boston to see them play against the Lakers and 2 other teams. The constant Laker injuries increase my changes of seeing the Celtics win against the Lakers. A win will be a dream come true. Or im i just cruel?

As a C's fan, not cruel at all. It's well deserved unwell wishing. I'm going to my first Celtics-Lakers game this February as well. Cheers!
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: TripleOT on January 08, 2013, 10:43:56 AM
I'd be surprised if Gasol isn't super cautious with this concussion.  He has a strong medical background and isn't going to mess with possible long term impact to his brain.  And he shouldn't, even if the Lakers have to play Nash at center.

Torn labrum for Howard sounds serious. I wonder if D Ho might just decide that the lights in LA are too bright for him and just go play for Mark Cuban.  This summer, the Lakers can save his salary slot and weaken the Clippers by aggreeing to a S and T with Dallas where they take Marion's expiring $9m deal and sign FA OJ Mayo. 

Then Dallas will have the caproom to sign Chris Paul. The Lakers can move Marion's expiring deal in season in another Pau deal from a team with a disgruntled big and cap issues.     
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Fafnir on January 08, 2013, 10:45:43 AM
I still don't see Howard turning down the extra money LA can offer him.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Edgar on January 08, 2013, 10:46:29 AM
I'd be surprised if Gasol isn't super cautious with this concussion.  He has a strong medical background and isn't going to mess with possible long term impact to his brain.  And he shouldn't, even if the Lakers have to play Nash at center.

Torn labrum for Howard sounds serious. I wonder if D Ho might just decide that the lights in LA are too bright for him and just go play for Mark Cuban.  This summer, the Lakers can save his salary slot and weaken the Clippers by aggreeing to a S and T with Dallas where they take Marion's expiring $9m deal and sign FA OJ Mayo. 

Then Dallas will have the caproom to sign Chris Paul. The Lakers can move Marion's expiring deal in season in another Pau deal from a team with a disgruntled big and cap issues.   

So Dallas ends up with CP3, Nowitski and DH12
DO you want to send Pierce and Wade there TOT?
 ;D
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: LEHGOCELTICS on January 08, 2013, 11:48:45 AM
Thursday, February 7th...hehehe I can't wait to see the Celtics destroy the Lakers

Lakers are 1st round fodder at best, lottery team at worst
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Edgar on January 08, 2013, 07:29:55 PM
me and my bag of cheetos are ready for this game!!!  ;D

NBATv here I go...
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 08, 2013, 08:15:31 PM
The LA blogs ...are destroying Pau Gasol .   You'd thunk he was no better than Collins reading the thrashing he is recieving on the threads on a daily basis.  I think they would burn the guy at the stake if it was 400years ago,.

I mean is Gasol is all that bad  ??? he has a concusion and doesn't fit wellinto the the coach scheme...heck I'll trade Collins for him anyday...

LA fans have it TOO EASY....they get all the best players and if one is struggling a little , no fault of his own , they want him OUT> ???

All the bickering , discontentment, and soforth on the Lakers team ..really makes me wonder if Gasol wouldn't just LOVE to leave all that disconted bunch of spoiled divas and play for another team.

Most teams would love to have the players the Lakers THROW AWAYs   ::)

Way they treat Gasol, I beat he would love a little payback for the LA fans. if he was on another team.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: jaketwice on January 08, 2013, 09:19:12 PM
Howard/Hill out a week, and who knows with Gasol's concussion those can be two or three days or linger for a long time. Didn't Doug Collins have issues for over a month?
Given that a concussion practically ended Marc Savard's career, it all depends on the severity.

Practically? I think that hit goes down as one of the worst in the history of sports - especially if you consider that Savard was AMAZING before that happened. Think of how good the 2011 team would have been if Savard had been at full strength: Bergeron, Chara, Krejki, Horton (even), Lucic, Seguin.

Every time I think of that poor kid I think of what a shame it is what happened to him. Too bad for Boston, too bad for the fans, too bad for the NHL.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: jaketwice on January 08, 2013, 09:26:15 PM
I wish that Gasol and Howard were in good health. I wish them a speedy recovery.

There is no player that I love hating more than Kobe Bryant ("Shananana, hey hey hey, goood bye!"). What I love about him is that he is every inch the entitled a**hole star: he's rude to his team-mates, that thing in Colorado, allegations of cheating on his wife, seemingly mean spirited; grew up rich, entitled, snotty. ...but he is so [dang] good. And there is no team I love hating more than the Lakers. Everything breaks their way. They have so much money. All these plastic celebrities attend their games. They've missed the playoffs like, twice, in the last thirty years (but check my math). It's a joy to hate such a great team.

The Heat are pretenders at the throne. Salary cap considerations, or a key injury will ruin them in due course. Miami will never be a dynasty like Boston, or the Lakers. They're just not in our category. That's not meant to be derisive - just a statement of fact.

I don't want to see that guy lose at half strength. And I don't want that team to lose without all of its crappy entitlements. I want them to have every advantage - and then I want to beat them.

There's gloating, and then there's GLOATING. And I want to be able to GLOAT. I'll never feel as satisfied beating the "Oklahoma City Thunder," or the "Los Angeles Clippers," as I would beating the LAKERS. The Fakers.

How amazing was that chant in '08? Tell me you could have felt that good about beating any other team.

Speedy recovery Pau! Speedy recovery Dwight!

We need you to be healthy so we can kick your ass.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 08, 2013, 09:30:21 PM
The LA blogs ...are destroying Pau Gasol .   You'd thunk he was no better than Collins reading the thrashing he is recieving on the threads on a daily basis.  I think they would burn the guy at the stake if it was 400years ago,.

I mean is Gasol is all that bad  ??? he has a concusion and doesn't fit wellinto the the coach scheme...heck I'll trade Collins for him anyday...

Last time I went to Silver Screen + Roll (a couple years back), they had to have "Gasoft" filtered because it was being used so often. 

Pau is probably a pretty frustrating guy to root for.  All the talent in the world but he can be a little soft and complacent and rarely seems to get to that next level he's capable of.  Kinda like a much better Jeff Green, except Pau's also a bit of a whiner.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: cman88 on January 08, 2013, 10:10:27 PM
now apparantly Steve Nash is in the locker-room because of his back..
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: ScottHow on January 08, 2013, 10:28:05 PM
Seeing bad things happen to LA is almost as satisfying as good things to Boston  ;D
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: TripleOT on January 08, 2013, 10:33:23 PM
And the Lakers lose again, this time in Houston, where McHale has the Rockets at an impressive 21-14 record. 

Tonight, Kobe scored 20 points on 22 shots.  The rest of the team had 92 points on 69 shots.  Harden scored 31 points on only 19 shots, and his outplaying Kobe provided the cushion in their victory. 

Bryant did have 7 assists, but as long as Kobe is jacking up 20+ shots a game and barely scoring a point per shot, this team is going to lose. 

 
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: Edgar on January 09, 2013, 12:22:36 AM
lakers now have officially the worst deffense in the league

they score at least...
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: D.o.s. on January 09, 2013, 12:25:26 AM
And the Lakers lose again, this time in Houston, where McHale has the Rockets at an impressive 21-14 record. 

Tonight, Kobe scored 20 points on 22 shots.  The rest of the team had 92 points on 69 shots.  Harden scored 31 points on only 19 shots, and his outplaying Kobe provided the cushion in their victory. 

Bryant did have 7 assists, but as long as Kobe is jacking up 20+ shots a game and barely scoring a point per shot, this team is going to lose.

Watching the game, it seemed like Kobe only forced a handful of those shots. High paced, high scoring game with very little being whistled*.

*Unless your name was James Harden. That dude is without equal right now when it comes to creating contact as he drives.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 09, 2013, 12:56:06 AM
And the Lakers lose again, this time in Houston, where McHale has the Rockets at an impressive 21-14 record. 

Tonight, Kobe scored 20 points on 22 shots.  The rest of the team had 92 points on 69 shots.  Harden scored 31 points on only 19 shots, and his outplaying Kobe provided the cushion in their victory. 

Bryant did have 7 assists, but as long as Kobe is jacking up 20+ shots a game and barely scoring a point per shot, this team is going to lose.

Watching the game, it seemed like Kobe only forced a handful of those shots. High paced, high scoring game with very little being whistled*.

*Unless your name was James Harden. That dude is without equal right now when it comes to creating contact as he drives.


Wonder IF Kobe "EVER" sat for rest,  I just don't see how they can play a 35 yr old guy , 40 + minutes a night..

IF ...KOBE was unable to play ....I'll say the Lakers would be lucky to win ANY games he is out...even with Howard and Gasol back.   Its like if he doesn't score 40 points they aren't even in the game.
Title: Re: Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol Out Indefinitely
Post by: indeedproceed on January 09, 2013, 01:04:03 AM
Crazy thing about the rockets: their second best offensive player is a second round pick, their best player was a bench player last year, their best defender is a second round pick who was a backup last year, and of their 3 first round picks in the past draft, 2 have never (or likely will ever) play a single game for the Rockets, and the third is their 12th man accumulating CD-DNP'S

I'm rooting for the Rockets nearly as hard as Im rooting for the Cs this season (as long as they're not playing each other). They're my favorite underdog.