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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: badshar on January 06, 2013, 10:14:14 PM
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A source told NBAonNBC.com that Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge was working to complete a deal to bring Cousins to the Celtics by the end of Sunday night. Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
Read more at: http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
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A source told NBAonNBC.com that Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge was working to complete a deal to bring Cousins to the Celtics by the end of Sunday night. Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
Read more at: http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
You're not breaking anything... :P
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This is too horrible a trade to be true.
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I'm not sure but I don't think Green can be traded until 15th (or is it Bass?).
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A source told NBAonNBC.com that Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge was working to complete a deal to bring Cousins to the Celtics by the end of Sunday night. Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
Read more at: http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
You're not breaking anything... :P
Meant to be "Breaking News" :D
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I'm not sure but I don't think Green can be traded until 15th (or is it Bass?).
You can't, either.
Being discussed here:
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=61448.msg1367803;topicseen#new
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A source told NBAonNBC.com that Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge was working to complete a deal to bring Cousins to the Celtics by the end of Sunday night. Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
Read more at: http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
You're not breaking anything... :P
Meant to be "Breaking News" :D
LOL, meant that we've been discussing this for a while now tonight in other threads.
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=61448.msg1367803;topicseen#new
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=61447.msg1367766;topicseen#new
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nesn? Is this real life?
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A source told NBAonNBC.com that Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge was working to complete a deal to bring Cousins to the Celtics by the end of Sunday night. Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
Read more at: http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
You're not breaking anything... :P
Meant to be "Breaking News" :D
He meant "see the other thread on this..."
;)
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A source told NBAonNBC.com that Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge was working to complete a deal to bring Cousins to the Celtics by the end of Sunday night. Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
Read more at: http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
You're not breaking anything... :P
maybe a few hearts???? ;)
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nesn? Is this real life?
What's wrong with NESN?
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nesn? Is this real life?
What's wrong with NESN?
I don't recall seeing them ever break any actual trade news. Does this rumor actually have legs or is it a bunch of nonsense?
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Well the consensus seems to be it is most likely a pile of nonsense.
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Well the consensus seems to be it is most likely a pile of nonsense.
If they are claiming the trade involves Bass and Green and could be done by "monday", then it absolutely is nonsense.
The title of this thread should be changed to "Nonsensical Wishful Thinking: Bogus Rumor about Cousins being a Celtic on Monday"
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There are really 3 threads about this right now. Maybe they can be combined?
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Well the consensus seems to be it is most likely a pile of nonsense.
If they are claiming the trade involves Bass and Green and could be done by "monday", then it absolutely is nonsense.
The title of this thread should be changed to "Nonsensical Wishful Thinking: Bogus Rumor about Cousins being a Celtic on Monday"
Done
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btw... who the hell is "NBAonNBC" and how is that a source? NBA hasn't been on NBC in over a decade. It's a fan account... probably CelticsThug trolling us from the grave I buried him in.
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I wish people would stop being so............!!!!!
JEFF GREEN CAN'T BE TRADED UNTIL JANUARY 15TH!!!! THEN THERE IS A MATTER OF MONEY, JEFF GREEN MAKES FAR TOO MUCH MONEY TO EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF OUR OTHER PLAYERS IS DUMB (COUSINS MAKES LESS THAN JET)!! YOU WOULD NEED OTHER PLAYERS FROM THE KINGS ALONE TO COVER GREEN'S CONTRACT!!! THEN THEY ADD ON JET WHICH MAKES THE KINGS HAVE TO COME CLOSE TO GIVING US 14MIL (JET AND GREEN'S $ TOGETHER)!!! YOU ADDED ON COURTNEY LEE WHO I THINK MAKES 5-6MIL, SO NOW YOU ARE TALKING 19MIL KINGS WOULD HAVE TO COME CLOSE TO MATCHING!!!! THEN YOU ADD IN SULLY, WHAT DOES HE MAKE, LIKE ANOTHER MIL PLUS?????
I'm so tired of these crazy "rumors", especially when people can't see that they are FULL OF IT!!!!
Is it possible there is a deal being done or will be sometime in the near future? Absolutely, it's definitely possible but it won't be for all those pieces together, it is IMPOSSIBLE unless the kings are giving up most of the roster! Matter of fact Cousins AND Evans together would probably not cover Green's contract alone (maybe it could b/c I don't know about how much of a % Kings would have to cover)!!!!
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NBAonNBC is run by Patrick and Gilroy who used to have a show on the radio called Celtics Pride - they now have a new show as an NBC affiliate
take that for whatever it is worth
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I'd hate to part with Sully and Lee but then again with Cousins you don't need Sully also with Bradley lee kinna becomes redundant. Green you also wish you could keep to guard LeBron.
Hmmm
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My guess to what is happening is that the Lakers, celtics, and kings rumor may have some validity. I believe Danny has gotten Sacramento to agree to the framework of the deal, but the Lakers are dragging their feet. If the Lakers would commit the deal could happen very soon. Otherwise Danny will have to rework the package so that it occurs with some combo of green or bass at a later date
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When this happens the Celtics are definitely going to win the Super Bowl!!!
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NBAonNBC is run by Patrick and Gilroy who used to have a show on the radio called Celtics Pride - they now have a new show as an NBC affiliate
take that for whatever it is worth
Yeah and he's already backpeddling on twitter, because he probably doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm weary of this kind of thing from little known sources. It's usually a modern day publicity stunt for a hackish blog. Brings in internet traffic and promotes their site, but usually the rumors have almost no validity whatsoever. Then when the trade inevitably doesn't happen they can just say "it fell apart" and still look like they have credibility to the gullible new fans they brought in.
Gilroy: "To be very clear, we as a website are not predicting or promising an imminent trade. We have however confirmed previous speculation from well known and trusted sources. The Celtics have been busy and have targeted Cousins. Our only "new news" is that the potential holdup is Bradley's availablity vs. Lee's availability. Stay tuned for the latest"
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BREAKING NEWS!!!
Celtics just acquired Cousins for Donny Marshal and a bag of Skittles...
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NBAonNBC is run by Patrick and Gilroy who used to have a show on the radio called Celtics Pride - they now have a new show as an NBC affiliate
take that for whatever it is worth
Yeah and he's already backpeddling on twitter, because he probably doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm weary of this kind of thing from little known sources. It's usually a modern day publicity stunt for a hackish blog. Brings in internet traffic and promotes their site, but usually the rumors have almost no validity whatsoever.
See stuff like this is why I can't get on board and fully believe these analysts with "sources" who go on twitter or any social media trying to break news that turns out to be false.
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* EVERY DOLLAR HELPS:
By our rough per-game calculation, the Celtics save about $275,000 by cutting Joseph after 33 games. That's right around what a late-season, veteran-minimum addition would cost. Considering the Celtics are hard-capped at the $74.3 million tax apron -- and roughly $71.2 million is committed to current costs -- every available dollar gives the Celtics a little bit of extra wiggle room to maneuver later in the season.
Interesting about this rumor coinciding with the roster moves though.
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BREAKING NEWS!!!
Celtics just acquired Cousins for Donny Marshal and a bag of Skittles...
Man, the Maloofs must love their Skittles.
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How about this?
http://www.celticslife.com/2013/01/report-celtics-very-involved-with.html
Boston became more aggressive on Sunday in its pursuit of Cousins -- who has been rumored to be on the trading block despite public denial by the Kings' organization -- and while Celtics general manager Danny Ainge would like to make a move sooner rather than later, he is hesitant about trading heralded third-year guard Avery Bradley. According to the source, Ainge would rather move Courtney Lee -- who was acquired by the Celtics in a sign-and-trade deal with the Houston Rockets -- than Bradley.
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How about this?
http://www.celticslife.com/2013/01/report-celtics-very-involved-with.html
Boston became more aggressive on Sunday in its pursuit of Cousins -- who has been rumored to be on the trading block despite public denial by the Kings' organization -- and while Celtics general manager Danny Ainge would like to make a move sooner rather than later, he is hesitant about trading heralded third-year guard Avery Bradley. According to the source, Ainge would rather move Courtney Lee -- who was acquired by the Celtics in a sign-and-trade deal with the Houston Rockets -- than Bradley.
all coming from the same garbage source. The blogs without integrity will pretend like it's actually got some basis in reality. It's not hard to come up with bogus rumors when fans are desperate for bogus rumors. We know Boston needs bigs. We know Jan 15th is a big date. We know we are overloaded with guards. If you're a desperate blog, just say, "Boston celtics are on the verge of trading (insert random expendable CEltics here) for (Big Al/Gortat/Varejao/Josh Smith/Cousins/Milisap/Dalembert/Pau Gasol)" and fans will eat it up.
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NBAonNBC is run by Patrick and Gilroy who used to have a show on the radio called Celtics Pride - they now have a new show as an NBC affiliate
take that for whatever it is worth
Yeah and he's already backpeddling on twitter, because he probably doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm weary of this kind of thing from little known sources. It's usually a modern day publicity stunt for a hackish blog. Brings in internet traffic and promotes their site, but usually the rumors have almost no validity whatsoever. Then when the trade inevitably doesn't happen they can just say "it fell apart" and still look like they have credibility to the gullible new fans they brought in.
Gilroy: "To be very clear, we as a website are not predicting or promising an imminent trade. We have however confirmed previous speculation from well known and trusted sources. The Celtics have been busy and have targeted Cousins. Our only "new news" is that the potential holdup is Bradley's availablity vs. Lee's availability. Stay tuned for the latest"
They've "confirmed speculation"?
What the heck does that even mean? I can "confirm speculation" regarding any number of players, if that "speculation" comes from "well-placed NBA sources" -- i.e., fans on CelticsBlog.
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How about this?
http://www.celticslife.com/2013/01/report-celtics-very-involved-with.html
Boston became more aggressive on Sunday in its pursuit of Cousins -- who has been rumored to be on the trading block despite public denial by the Kings' organization -- and while Celtics general manager Danny Ainge would like to make a move sooner rather than later, he is hesitant about trading heralded third-year guard Avery Bradley. According to the source, Ainge would rather move Courtney Lee -- who was acquired by the Celtics in a sign-and-trade deal with the Houston Rockets -- than Bradley.
all coming from the same garbage source. The blogs without integrity will pretend like it's actually got some basis in reality. It's not hard to come up with bogus rumors when fans are desperate for bogus rumors. We know Boston needs bigs. We know Jan 15th is a big date. We know we are overloaded with guards. If you're a desperate blog, just say, "Boston celtics are on the verge of trading (insert random expendable CEltics here) for (Big Al/Gortat/Varejao/Josh Smith/Cousins/Milisap/Dalembert/Pau Gasol)" and fans will eat it up.
I am definitely eating it up and was supposed to be in bed an hour ago :D
And if there is any validity to Avery being the hold up, I hope Danny can still get it done with Lee [even though I have become a fan of his]. It might not be totally similar to the Rondo / Telfair hold up in the KG deal, but look how that one turned out...
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* EVERY DOLLAR HELPS:
By our rough per-game calculation, the Celtics save about $275,000 by cutting Joseph after 33 games. That's right around what a late-season, veteran-minimum addition would cost. Considering the Celtics are hard-capped at the $74.3 million tax apron -- and roughly $71.2 million is committed to current costs -- every available dollar gives the Celtics a little bit of extra wiggle room to maneuver later in the season.
Interesting about this rumor coinciding with the roster moves though.
The "rumor" was started by A. Sherrod Blakely, who decided to read the tea leaves about the roster moves. Rather than going with the obvious -- the Celtics waived a couple of non-guaranteed contracts right before the deadline to do so, as several other teams did -- Blakely and his "source" invented something about a "blockbuster".
There is no rumor. It's unethical nonsense from a supposed journalist.
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Money wise, as of Jan 15th.
Green, Lee, Sully, Melo, picks
for
Cousins, Garcia (expiring due to team option), Brooks and Travis outlaw should work.
Rondo/Brooks/Barbosa
Bradley/Terry/Garcia
Pierce/Outlaw
KG/Bass
Cousins/Wilcox/Collins
Works
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* EVERY DOLLAR HELPS:
By our rough per-game calculation, the Celtics save about $275,000 by cutting Joseph after 33 games. That's right around what a late-season, veteran-minimum addition would cost. Considering the Celtics are hard-capped at the $74.3 million tax apron -- and roughly $71.2 million is committed to current costs -- every available dollar gives the Celtics a little bit of extra wiggle room to maneuver later in the season.
Interesting about this rumor coinciding with the roster moves though.
The "rumor" was started by A. Sherrod Blakely, who decided to read the tea leaves about the roster moves. Rather than going with the obvious -- the Celtics waived a couple of non-guaranteed contracts right before the deadline to do so, as several other teams did -- Blakely and his "source" invented something about a "blockbuster".
There is no rumor. It's unethical nonsense from a supposed journalist.
I stopped believing A. Sherrod when he was as sure as day that Christmas would get the last roster spot. His very close "sources" told him that only for it to be completely false.
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Can you imagine if Terry was moved though?
After getting that tattoo?
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* EVERY DOLLAR HELPS:
By our rough per-game calculation, the Celtics save about $275,000 by cutting Joseph after 33 games. That's right around what a late-season, veteran-minimum addition would cost. Considering the Celtics are hard-capped at the $74.3 million tax apron -- and roughly $71.2 million is committed to current costs -- every available dollar gives the Celtics a little bit of extra wiggle room to maneuver later in the season.
Interesting about this rumor coinciding with the roster moves though.
The "rumor" was started by A. Sherrod Blakely, who decided to read the tea leaves about the roster moves. Rather than going with the obvious -- the Celtics waived a couple of non-guaranteed contracts right before the deadline to do so, as several other teams did -- Blakely and his "source" invented something about a "blockbuster".
There is no rumor. It's unethical nonsense from a supposed journalist.
I stopped believing A. Sherrod when he was as sure as day that Christmas would get the last roster spot. His very close "sources" told him that only for it to be completely false.
Yeah, and wasn't he proven wrong like 24 hours after his report?
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Can you imagine if Terry was moved though?
After getting that tattoo?
Should've learned the lesson from Giddens.
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Can you imagine if Terry was moved though?
After getting that tattoo?
Should've learned the lesson from Giddens.
Should've known with Danny as GM :D
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Interesting about this rumor coinciding with the roster moves though.
The roster moves are logical due to salary cap reasons. It's completely predictable that some people might try to interpret the moves as something more than that.
Every time something occurs with "suspicious" timing, there are conspiracy theorists out there ready to leap at the conclusion that there is something deeper going on. (See, for a recent example, those who immediately jumped on the notion that Hillary Clinton was faking a head injury.)
It's pretty easy to see how someone might combine Ainge's known interest in Cousins with the opening of roster spots and report as fact the speculation of a source that the two might be related. If it was believed Ainge had no interest in a deal with Sacramento, then a different rumor with another team would have popped up.
If there is any truth to this rumor, I suspect it would be from a source within the Kings organization who finds the offer underwhelming and wants to see another bid from a team which can offer a better draft pick as part of the deal.
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Can you imagine if Terry was moved though?
After getting that tattoo?
that would be hilarious
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* EVERY DOLLAR HELPS:
By our rough per-game calculation, the Celtics save about $275,000 by cutting Joseph after 33 games. That's right around what a late-season, veteran-minimum addition would cost. Considering the Celtics are hard-capped at the $74.3 million tax apron -- and roughly $71.2 million is committed to current costs -- every available dollar gives the Celtics a little bit of extra wiggle room to maneuver later in the season.
Interesting about this rumor coinciding with the roster moves though.
The "rumor" was started by A. Sherrod Blakely, who decided to read the tea leaves about the roster moves. Rather than going with the obvious -- the Celtics waived a couple of non-guaranteed contracts right before the deadline to do so, as several other teams did -- Blakely and his "source" invented something about a "blockbuster".
There is no rumor. It's unethical nonsense from a supposed journalist.
I stopped believing A. Sherrod when he was as sure as day that Christmas would get the last roster spot. His very close "sources" told him that only for it to be completely false.
Yeah, and wasn't he proven wrong like 24 hours after his report?
Someone needs to hold these idiots accountable for completely false reporting.
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I haven't believed any of these rumors/sources, but I'm starting to think this could be a case of where there is smoke, there is fire.
Too many rumors (even as nonsensical as some of them are) to not start believing that Ainge is going hard at SAC and may even be making some headway.
I don't believe we make any (significant) move without Bass and/or Green, therefore nothing is getting done this week, but perhaps an agreement can be made.
I guess we should just stay tuned. If something is going to happen, it will most likely be sooner rather than at the deadline (Ainge does not want a repeat of 2011, leaving Doc too little time to make it work).
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Come on the Celtics would hold up on a trade for Cousins because of Avery freaking Bradley? I mean I like AB too but come on do you want Cousins or not? If not, move on, if you want him expect to offer fair value. Sully is a role player at best probably Bradley as well. You do this deal in a heartbeat
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Come on the Celtics would hold up on a trade for Cousins because of Avery freaking Bradley? I mean I like AB too but come on do you want Cousins or not? If not, move on, if you want him expect to offer fair value. Sully is a role player at best probably Bradley as well. You do this deal in a heartbeat
Well said , AB is nearly my fav C, but for Cousins seriously , you do it and don't look back .
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We're not getting demarcus cousins. Not happening without giving up Rondo.
But if makes ya'll feel any better... I took some pics from the river today of some bald eagles.
(http://i.imgur.com/TmnLA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mEBvKh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cLDOdh.jpg)
Here's some more:
http://imgur.com/a/kjgCY
http://imgur.com/a/Hteyv
Enjoy
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Nice pics. TP.
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We're not getting demarcus cousins. Not happening without giving up Rondo.
But if makes ya'll feel any better... I took some pics from the river today of some bald eagles.
(http://i.imgur.com/TmnLA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mEBvKh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cLDOdh.jpg)
Here's some more:
http://imgur.com/a/kjgCY
http://imgur.com/a/Hteyv
Enjoy
Awesome pictures, what river?
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We're not getting demarcus cousins. Not happening without giving up Rondo.
But if makes ya'll feel any better... I took some pics from the river today of some bald eagles.
(http://i.imgur.com/TmnLA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mEBvKh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cLDOdh.jpg)
Here's some more:
http://imgur.com/a/kjgCY
http://imgur.com/a/Hteyv
Enjoy
Awesome pictures, what river?
I live up in Seattle. It's the Skagit River a couple hours from where I live.
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We're not getting demarcus cousins. Not happening without giving up Rondo.
But if makes ya'll feel any better... I took some pics from the river today of some bald eagles.
(http://i.imgur.com/TmnLA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mEBvKh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cLDOdh.jpg)
Here's some more:
http://imgur.com/a/kjgCY
http://imgur.com/a/Hteyv
Enjoy
Awesome pictures, what river?
I live up in Seattle. It's the Skagit River a couple hours from where I live.
Great shots! TP
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TP for the pics indeed. Grand.