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Title: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Redz on January 03, 2013, 09:10:23 PM
Have at it
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Roy H. on January 03, 2013, 09:12:19 PM
You forgot Danny. ;)
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Redz on January 03, 2013, 09:12:59 PM
You forgot Danny. ;)

indeed I did

I thought of him before I started this then forgot to add him

will do
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: CelticG1 on January 03, 2013, 09:14:53 PM
TP.

hilarious

I don't agree with any of them. Assuming Terry and green get the most votes though.

Seriously though what is Terry doing right now (or the whole season) that Etuan Moore can't do? And I haven't even watched Moore play this year or know how he's doing (basing off of 5 minutes a game last year)
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Who on January 03, 2013, 09:29:43 PM
I voted for Doc and J.Green. Doc was the main one.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Redz on January 03, 2013, 09:32:02 PM
I voted for Doc and J.Green. Doc was the main one.

One of these years you're wish will finally come true  :)

(oops , thought you were wdleehi)
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: mgent on January 03, 2013, 10:17:01 PM
No real blame here.  I'd like it if Bass and Sullinger could make their rotations on time.  I'd like it if Lee would take a step forward this season rather than continuing to step back.  I'd like it if we didn't have to play our 4th string center consistent minutes.  It would've been cool if Barbosa didn't have personal issues to take care of.  There are even things I would have done/be doing differently if i were Doc or Danny (as always).

The closest thing I have to blame is the lack of aggression between Green and Terry.  Also, maybe Darko, for leaving right before he would've gotten minutes.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 03, 2013, 10:22:49 PM
I voted Doc, Rondo, Bass.

Doc - has been highly incompetent this year.

Rondo - overall good season, but not doing enough of what we need to win to you know, actually win.

Bass - my biggest let down this year from our roster. Poor offense, and his defense deteriorated from the progress it did last year, leaving one gaping whole in our big man rotation.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: lightspeed5 on January 03, 2013, 10:32:16 PM
cant believe someone voted sully. probably the same person who voted KG.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Who on January 03, 2013, 10:35:57 PM
cant believe someone voted sully. probably the same person who voted KG.
Ah, Sully was awful for the first month or so the season. He was killing the team with the playing time he received. Sullinger has improved enough since then for me not to vote for him but I did think about it.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: StartOrien on January 03, 2013, 10:46:16 PM
Best poll ever, Redz.

I'd vote for cold and flu season. I've had sinus congestion for a month, can't even begin to imagine what these guys are going through.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Eddie20 on January 03, 2013, 11:06:02 PM
Bass. Last year his J was automatic, which made us much harder to matchup with. Now he's shooting as inconsistently as Baby did, minus the D.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: syfy9 on January 03, 2013, 11:16:52 PM
Get outta town, 98!
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 03, 2013, 11:37:07 PM
I voted Doc.

It's really simple for me really. He ran Darko out of town by not even playing him for atleast 10-15 minutes to the point that he had to quit the team.

(Granted his mom got ill, but I think he wouldve come back if he's in a good spot).

I know he's not a star, but his length, athleticism (he's at least more athletic tha Collins) and willingness to "kill" in order for the team to win would've made a difference.

Are we top seed in the East with him? Of course not. But are we going to be this bad with him manning the middle? No!

I blame Doc.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 03, 2013, 11:59:09 PM
I think someone in another thread made a good point about our struggles this year, especially recently (may have been LarBird, but not sure). Seems to be a cloud hanging over the team's head as all are aware trades are going to happen and, aside from a few, every one is on the block. Until changes happen and the then dust settles, not sure we will see a team that is focused and at all invested.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Edgar on January 04, 2013, 12:01:56 AM
fun one rojos as usual

lets see......
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Mazingerz on January 04, 2013, 01:46:59 AM
I think we don't have the token white guy in the team. Thats what we are missing. Not to sound racist or anything, but if you may notice there is always 1 guy (Sasha, Scal) on the team.

Doc, Ainge - go get us one.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: lightspeed5 on January 04, 2013, 02:48:17 AM
looks like bass is the culprit.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Casperian on January 04, 2013, 04:47:09 AM
"Divide and conquer", huh?

How about "all of the above, to varying degree"?
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: dark_lord on January 04, 2013, 06:18:34 AM
i voted green, bass, lee, and rondo
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Redz on January 04, 2013, 06:24:17 AM
looks like I forgot Barbosa and the other rookie....wonder why?


I voted Romeo, Bass, Green, Terry
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: mctyson on January 04, 2013, 06:51:26 AM
I was just looking at some of the advanced stats for the team (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2013.html) to date, not in any particular order:

1) KG is having his worst season in Boston thus far, and his worst season since he was 19 years old

2) Jason Terry is BY FAR having the worst season of his career, maybe save for his rookie year

3) Bass is having his worst season season since he was with New Orleans

4) Courtney Lee is having the worst season of his career

4) Jeff Green is having his worst season since he was a rookie



I think that explains our problem.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: slamtheking on January 04, 2013, 08:15:19 AM
I was just looking at some of the advanced stats for the team (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2013.html) to date, not in any particular order:

1) KG is having his worst season in Boston thus far, and his worst season since he was 19 years old

2) Jason Terry is BY FAR having the worst season of his career, maybe save for his rookie year

3) Bass is having his worst season season since he was with New Orleans

4) Courtney Lee is having the worst season of his career

4) Jeff Green is having his worst season since he was a rookie

I think that explains our problem.
glad you put the time to look this info up to validate my opinion  ;)

voted for Doc and the 4 horsemen of the C's apocolypse: Green, JET, Lee and Bass.  every one of them have been incredibly underwhelming this year and it's really hurting us.

KG and PP are old players.  they're production is down so that should not be a surprise. 
Collins is just what everyone thought he was.
Sully is a rookie.  the fact he's getting time and being somewhat productive is a positive. 
Bradley just got back.
Rondo has been Rondo.  his D has sucked but he's not completely healthy at the moment.
Wilcox can't seem to stay healthy.  shocker.

love the poll by the way.  should have Wilcox just to be thorough.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: celticinorlando on January 04, 2013, 09:00:39 AM
My vote went:

1. Bass--overpaid do nothing. Can't rebound and thinks he is a pure jump shooter

2. Jeff Green--soft as a "kitten". Waste of cash...change your pad Jeff

3. Terry--Old and nowhere near a ray allen replacement. Just a huge disappointment

4. Lee--does nothing. i mean ZERO

5. Doc--his job is to bring this together and he looks clueless


Honorable mention to Danny for not addressing getting a LEGIT big man that can rebound...

KG and PP are just old...and it is showing big time...sully is a rook...bradley a savior...rondo a malcontent that is our only hope...wilcox made of glass...collins a big stiff

Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: mctyson on January 04, 2013, 09:24:10 AM
I was just looking at some of the advanced stats for the team (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2013.html) to date, not in any particular order:

1) KG is having his worst season in Boston thus far, and his worst season since he was 19 years old

2) Jason Terry is BY FAR having the worst season of his career, maybe save for his rookie year

3) Bass is having his worst season season since he was with New Orleans

4) Courtney Lee is having the worst season of his career

4) Jeff Green is having his worst season since he was a rookie

I think that explains our problem.
glad you put the time to look this info up to validate my opinion  ;)

voted for Doc and the 4 horsemen of the C's apocolypse: Green, JET, Lee and Bass.  every one of them have been incredibly underwhelming this year and it's really hurting us.

KG and PP are old players.  they're production is down so that should not be a surprise. 
Collins is just what everyone thought he was.
Sully is a rookie.  the fact he's getting time and being somewhat productive is a positive. 
Bradley just got back.
Rondo has been Rondo.  his D has sucked but he's not completely healthy at the moment.
Wilcox can't seem to stay healthy.  shocker.

love the poll by the way.  should have Wilcox just to be thorough.

I would also mention that Sullinger's advanced stats are really impressive.  He should probably start based on his offensive and rebounding stats. 
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: wdleehi on January 04, 2013, 09:29:54 AM
Darko - Leaving left a hole in the hearts of your teammates that they can not overcome.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 04, 2013, 09:34:12 AM
Darko - Leaving left a hole in the hearts of your teammates that they can not overcome.

I think that was on Doc for not playing him. I believe he wouldve came back if he's getting significant PT.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Roy H. on January 04, 2013, 09:35:21 AM
Plenty of blame to go around.

One of the biggest changes is the play of Bass.  His jumpshot has really fallen off, and his defense has taken a large step backward.  If he gets it going again, I think we'll be in much better shape.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: Redz on January 04, 2013, 11:35:02 AM
Hmm, yeh, I forgot Wilcox too.  Though he really hasn't done anything notably disappointing.
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: CelticG1 on January 04, 2013, 11:40:51 AM
What about Wyc?

What about the Fans?

I think most of the blame should go to the refs personally. Im sure I could argue enough calls in every game to get us a few more wins  ;D
Title: Re: Blame Pie 2012-2013 Poll
Post by: cltc5 on January 04, 2013, 12:16:00 PM
I voted doc, KG, and Green.  Only KG becasue I seriously think the 5 min in and out is dumb and he needs to be at the 5, period.  Doc has no clue and Green is too timid.  Maybe if Doc put him in a more dominant role?  Yea so i guess all my votes are against Doc essentially >:(