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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: rutzan on December 31, 2012, 08:42:43 PM
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1)Charlotte
2)Boston
3)Dallas or Orlando
Can someone show me how Dallas or Orlando leapfrogs us or Charlotte?
Are there any other darkhorses out there?
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You forgot Sacramento. I still think Cousins is far more likely to stay in Sacramento than he is to leave. For now at least.
Maybe next summer or sometime next season or the summer after that. I think Cousins will leave Sacramento. I just don't think that time has arrived yet. The problems there have been bad but I am not convinced they are ready yet to give up on a big man with as much talent and potential as Cousins has just yet. I think this Kings + Cousins story has another few chapters to play out first.
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I thought we were considered the front runners.. No?
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i put charlotte number one so that i do not get my hopes up too high
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I thought we were considered the front runners.. No?
With what? The Kings have no need for Pierce/Garnett, Rondo is likely too much, and nobody else is worth anything even remotely close to Cousins.
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teams often think in cycles...first going going for talent...then...going for character...i think the pendulum is swinging now in both directions...sacto tired of the drama wanting young talent and character...that is...bradley, sully...we need superior talent and need to swing for the fences with dmc...the perfect storm...so to speak...sacto is tired of the risk...we need the reward...it's the classic risk vs reward....but you also have the sell high and buy low dynamic...
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I thought we were considered the front runners.. No?
With what? The Kings have no need for Pierce/Garnett, Rondo is likely too much, and nobody else is worth anything even remotely close to Cousins.
are you kidding me? since when was KG, rondo, or pierce in any of the cousins trade rumors? its been about avery bradley and maybe add sullinger... both that match cousins salary
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I thought we were considered the front runners.. No?
With what? The Kings have no need for Pierce/Garnett, Rondo is likely too much, and nobody else is worth anything even remotely close to Cousins.
are you kidding me? since when was KG, rondo, or pierce in any of the cousins trade rumors? its been about avery bradley and maybe add sullinger... both that match cousins salary
I don't agree with the idea that Bradley and Sullinger are enough to get it done. Our players are either not good enough, too good or a terrible fit.
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There is no way to be sure what Sac will take for Cousins. Question is, do we really want him? I think Danny makes a low ball pitch and sees where it leads. While others are maneuvering for Cousins, I hope Danny swoops in and gets Gortat.
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I'm praying its Boston. :)
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i put charlotte number one so that i do not get my hopes up too high
Yeah, I'd agree.
Charlotte seems to have the ability to put together the best package (of the teams rumored to be bidding). The question is whether or not they acually want Cousins badly enough to give their best offer.
This of course, depends on how deperate Sacramento really is. The best thing for them is still, somehow, getting Cousins to get his head straight. I'd be willing to bet Sacramento ends up unhappy with proposals, tries to convince themselves it's still salvagable, and keeps him (for now).
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I thought we were considered the front runners.. No?
With what? The Kings have no need for Pierce/Garnett, Rondo is likely too much, and nobody else is worth anything even remotely close to Cousins.
are you kidding me? since when was KG, rondo, or pierce in any of the cousins trade rumors? its been about avery bradley and maybe add sullinger... both that match cousins salary
Yeah but where have any "legit" rumors come from? The only mention of sully and or Bradley for cousins I've heard has been from celtics blog.
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i put charlotte number one so that i do not get my hopes up too high
Yeah, I'd agree.
Charlotte seems to have the ability to put together the best package (of the teams rumored to be bidding). The question is whether or not they acually want Cousins badly enough to give their best offer.
This of course, depends on how deperate Sacramento really is. The best thing for them is still, somehow, getting Cousins to get his head straight. I'd be willing to bet Sacramento ends up unhappy with proposals, tries to convince themselves it's still salvagable, and keeps him (for now).
I remind all.
Cousins has come back with a renewed purpose and attitude. How long it lasts remains to be seen, though.
Either way, he has posted some big numbers in the past 5 games.
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I think us getting Cousins depends on 1 of 2 things:
1. Sac gives up Tyreke and Cousins for Rondo + something that isn't Bradley, and either it really clicks with Bradley being the defense for Tyreke's score first PG tactics and boston thrives with PP and Tyreke being the scorers/creators and KG/Bradley the defense, and Cousins the rebounder/benefiting from no double teams/better spacing. Or, Tyreke is flipped to a 3rd team that can give up more of a pure PG and wants to take a risk on Tyreke's potential to be a star. This could include Phoenix (Dragic), Toronto (Lowry), Atlanta (Teauge plus something), Milwaukee (Jennings).
2. Sac really likes our youngs, and we are willing to give up Bradley, Sully, and a First for Cousins.
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why are we on this still??
Sac is not trading Cousins. After the suspension he needed to or needs to mess up one more time. Then we can think about having even a chance to trade for him
Right now, after the suspension matter, Sac has been playing very well. DMC has been playing very well. He is considered their franchise player
You got to give up Rondo for him , and celts won't be doing that
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I think us getting Cousins depends on 1 of 2 things:
1. Sac gives up Tyreke and Cousins for Rondo + something that isn't Bradley, and either it really clicks with Bradley being the defense for Tyreke's score first PG tactics and boston thrives with PP and Tyreke being the scorers/creators and KG/Bradley the defense, and Cousins the rebounder/benefiting from no double teams/better spacing. Or, Tyreke is flipped to a 3rd team that can give up more of a pure PG and wants to take a risk on Tyreke's potential to be a star. This could include Phoenix (Dragic), Toronto (Lowry), Atlanta (Teauge plus something), Milwaukee (Jennings).
2. Sac really likes our youngs, and we are willing to give up Bradley, Sully, and a First for Cousins.
The more I think about it, the more I think it is probably going to be option #1. I think most people would be 'okay' with #2 - although it would be a bummer to give up both of our top assets, we get a very high potential center with every opportunity to grow and succeed with KG.
With #1, we get that same high potential center and get a player that Danny has always wanted and seems to fit quite well with Bradley [but you're right, he could be flipped for a Lowry type]. We also get to maintain our top young players. I hate to lose Rondo, but if the season continues to go south, Danny will look at ALL options.