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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: Smitty77 on December 22, 2012, 09:22:16 PM
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Fab has 15 points, 16 rebounds, and 14 blocks tonite!!!!
http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/20121222/ERIMNE/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp2021200079#Q4
Oh yeah:-)))) FABulous:-))
Smitty77
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Agh lost the game, though!
The officiating is pretty good compared to the NBA, ironically.
And Fab Melo. Awesome sauce. He's raw but he's learning very fast.
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Set new D-League record for blocks!!! Congrats Fab!!!!
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I've been watching him.... he has these "SMALL" little mirco moments where he plays well. And slowly , the tiny bits of decent play are showing up more freq.
He needs 1000's repetition of shots and practice situations.
A he becomes more confident , and aggressive , the he'll put it all together one day on a consistant basis.
When he gets to the point , he can dominate without hesitation a period , he'll be ready to contribute.
With his size and speed , once he know how to play the game , he will be hard to stop , IF he is of the right mindset.
If Danny can just somehow protect Sully , Fab, KJ and AB , I believe people will be very happy by end of next year what those guys can bring.
The problem is with guys WHO been around the game ....the older guys aren't getting it done.
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That's an insane statline!
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DLeague or not, 14 blocks???? Wow, he musta been EVERYWHERE! Hell, I might think they were throwing the ball at him instead of the rim! LOL
WTG FAB! Getting better every time he is out there!
I usually watch the games after they have been played (when I know the outcome), so that I can focus closely on FAB. I only look at the score before I watch the game instead of their individual stats, but I knew FAB had to be impressive given a new thread for him, so I had to look!
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Oh wow. Watching the replay of the game right now.
His BBIQ so far in the first seems a little iffy, but we'll see. 14 blocks though.. Jeez. Congrats to him on the NBDL record.
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Where did that baby hook come from? Looks kinda ugly, but it's worked for him from what I've seen so far.
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I would be very interested to see him get a 10-12 game run in the team.
Stiemsma was pretty raw at the start of last season too.
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Yup, I think it might be close to time to see some Fab down in Boston.
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Yup, I think it might be close to time to see some Fab down in Boston.
Certainly couldn't hurt.
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That's an insane statline!
Crazy! Cant believe they lost.
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Yup, I think it might be close to time to see some Fab down in Boston.
I don't think so. Giddens put up some monster lines in the D-League too.
Let him spend the year learning up there. He can help us next year.
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14 blocked shots! :o What more needs to said. Bring him down for the love of god. Melo is huge upgrade over bass, wilcox, and sully on defense. Teams are running layup drills against the Celtics right now. Plant the young 7 footer in there and see what happens. Worst case scenario Celtics continue to play .500 ball. Best case scenario Melo earns starting job next to Garnett for rest of the year.
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Here's a cut and paste from the other silly Fab Melo thread:
"He hasn't played anywhere near that well so far. He's been like the 10th best player on that D-League roster. They have like 5 guys averaging 20 points. Lol.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/maine/statistics/
Before anyone gets too excitable, it should be pointed out that Melo is merely averaging 7 points, 5 rebounds and 2 blocks in a children's league. There's about 90 players outperforming him in that league so far."
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Here's a cut and paste from the other silly Fab Melo thread:
"He hasn't played anywhere near that well so far. He's been like the 10th best player on that D-League roster. They have like 5 guys averaging 20 points. Lol.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/maine/statistics/
Before anyone gets too excitable, it should be pointed out that Melo is merely averaging 7 points, 5 rebounds and 2 blocks in a children's league. There's about 90 players outperforming him in that league so far."
Ok contrarian we get it. 14 blocks is 14 blocks. you know how many Sullinger has for the year? 13. What about Wilcox? 9
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14 blocks!?
I really think we should call him up now. Like i said, he might miss some rotations here and there but at worst HE WILL SWAT THE BALL.
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Yup, I think it might be close to time to see some Fab down in Boston.
Certainly couldn't hurt.
Actually, yeah, it could. Confidence is a huge part of this game and if suddenly he is getting lost and dominated and then finds himself back in the D-League, it could shatter whatever education and confidence he his had instilled within him and set him back, possibly forever.
Let's just be patient, let him learn the game in the D-League, let him have his ups and downs there while he learns and gets tons of playing time, and bring him up when he is consistently performing at a high level with an excellent understanding of the game and when his skills have been refined some.
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Fab has the gifts , he just needs to learn how to use them and hone them into NBA level. The guy is very quick side to side movement, you think he can't get to where he needs to be , then he extends his long frame and BAM! , he is on his man so fast.
Sully has be playing BB since he could walk and trained by a father who is a excellent coach. Fab is LEARNING a new sport !!! Thats amazing... he was a scoccer player.
He probally realizes his team is in trouble, so thats added pressure. Maybe thats good , he redoubles his effort to learn and practice.
Any rate, he'll be beating up on teams more and more as he deveoples his game.
IMO ...I would leave him in MAine till playoffs as bench help. He should be better than Hollins or Collins by then .
Trading Fab would be BAD MOJO....5 years down the road we would regret having him come to town.
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Fab has the gifts , he just needs to learn how to use them and hone them into NBA level. The guy is very quick side to side movement, you think he can't get to where he needs to be , then he extends his long frame and BAM! , he is on his man so fast.
Sully has be playing BB since he could walk and trained by a father who is a excellent coach. Fab is LEARNING a new sport !!! Thats amazing... he was a scoccer player.
He probally realizes his team is in trouble, so thats added pressure. Maybe thats good , he redoubles his effort to learn and practice.
Any rate, he'll be beating up on teams more and more as he deveoples his game.
IMO ...I would leave him in MAine till playoffs as bench help. He should be better than Hollins or Collins by then .
Trading Fab would be BAD MOJO....5 years down the road we would regret having him come to town.
Agreed. Good Post.
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His trade value just went up a bit? lol.
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With Avery coming back, now is the time to throw melo in there for 10-15 mins a game. Avery locks down opposing ball handlers which would help cover up for our big men being slow to rotate and on pick and roll situations . Let Melo be our rim protector while KG is free to roam on defense at the PF spot .
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Here yall go!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0aPhku-v_0&feature=youtu.be&a
His last couple of swats was very impressive!
Personally my favorites is 1:55 and 2:16.
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Here yall go!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0aPhku-v_0&feature=youtu.be&a
His last couple of swats was very impressive!
Personally my favorites is 1:55 and 2:16.
thanks for the video, TP
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Okay, is it possible to block 14 shots (*cough* 15) while altering like another 50? I swear, it seemed like Melo altered at least one shot every other time down. That man was everywhere!
If he wasn't in HOGLeague he would had about 25pts too b/c he was WIDE open a lot but they RARELY passed to him. He would have had 40pts playing with RR b/c he was out there rolling them to death but never got the ball from those chuckers! He didn't force any shots, the ones he did miss were too hard off the glass but that hook is looking like found money! I found myself begging them to get him the ball, I know it's easier to see open guys when you're not in the game but FAB was wide open so often that Stevie Wonder couldn't miss him! Stupid DLeague guards just chucking away all the time! Fab is being hurt offensively by them (heck, defensively too as when he helps off they act like they don't know to check his man... guy can only do so much)! I don't hate DLeague but I surely can do without these coaches acting like they can't reign these guards in, I mean why LET them keep tossing junk up when you got a big (who is having the best game of his life), rolling WIDE open to the hoop???
His rebounding tonight was spot on and he boxed out pretty good too... he even got his hands on quite a few tips that just didn't go our way.
His stat line tells of a great game but if you actually focus on Melo, it was even better than those stats say, as hard as that is to believe!
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14 Blocks, wow, along with points and rebounds, that is good, I don't care if it is D-League, college, or even high school, that is an impressive stat line.
Clearly Fab is improving in leaps and (re)bounds.
I still suspect the D-League is the right place for him even though doing this stat line once does mean something.
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Yup, I think it might be close to time to see some Fab down in Boston.
Certainly couldn't hurt.
Actually, yeah, it could. Confidence is a huge part of this game and if suddenly he is getting lost and dominated and then finds himself back in the D-League, it could shatter whatever education and confidence he his had instilled within him and set him back, possibly forever.
Let's just be patient, let him learn the game in the D-League, let him have his ups and downs there while he learns and gets tons of playing time, and bring him up when he is consistently performing at a high level with an excellent understanding of the game and when his skills have been refined some.
ty nick, hes still sooo raw
good news he long, have size and its ours for the future.
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Yup, I think it might be close to time to see some Fab down in Boston.
Certainly couldn't hurt.
Actually, yeah, it could. Confidence is a huge part of this game and if suddenly he is getting lost and dominated and then finds himself back in the D-League, it could shatter whatever education and confidence he his had instilled within him and set him back, possibly forever.
Let's just be patient, let him learn the game in the D-League, let him have his ups and downs there while he learns and gets tons of playing time, and bring him up when he is consistently performing at a high level with an excellent understanding of the game and when his skills have been refined some.
ty nick, hes still sooo raw
good news he long, have size and its ours for the future.
Or until we trade him.
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That video clip up above isn't very persuasive. Fab Melo looks out of control on many of those defensive possessions. He just playing against lousy competition so he is getting with it because he is bigger and more athletic than everyone.
I still think the D-League is the wrong place for a big man like Fab Melo. Learning things that won't work at an NBA level. Building bad habits.
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Say he can do a 3rd of that in the NBA, that's worth some playing time for the Celts
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He won't do it as much against NBA guys who are the cream of the crop. He is really raw but does have defensive talent.
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Okay, is it possible to block 14 shots (*cough* 15) while altering like another 50? I swear, it seemed like Melo altered at least one shot every other time down. That man was everywhere!
If he wasn't in HOGLeague he would had about 25pts too b/c he was WIDE open a lot but they RARELY passed to him. He would have had 40pts playing with RR b/c he was out there rolling them to death but never got the ball from those chuckers! He didn't force any shots, the ones he did miss were too hard off the glass but that hook is looking like found money! I found myself begging them to get him the ball, I know it's easier to see open guys when you're not in the game but FAB was wide open so often that Stevie Wonder couldn't miss him! Stupid DLeague guards just chucking away all the time! Fab is being hurt offensively by them (heck, defensively too as when he helps off they act like they don't know to check his man... guy can only do so much)! I don't hate DLeague but I surely can do without these coaches acting like they can't reign these guards in, I mean why LET them keep tossing junk up when you got a big (who is having the best game of his life), rolling WIDE open to the hoop???
His rebounding tonight was spot on and he boxed out pretty good too... he even got his hands on quite a few tips that just didn't go our way.
His stat line tells of a great game but if you actually focus on Melo, it was even better than those stats say, as hard as that is to believe!
Agree 100%... I watch just the play around him ... like DHoward , Melo is fast and tall , he can go after alot of balls that people think they can shoot over him. He makes the other team work for harder shots( like what is happening to the Celtics now) our buckets are too hard to earn .
Mello makes a difference being big and quick playing in the paint. He is very ACTIVE , and is TIRELESS !!! That is so important in the NBA. He can run the court.
By seasons end , I'm thinking 4 P/8 R /4B is possible especially against the BUCKS. And he will negate some of the opponets size advantages.
So , if Danny just don't go trade dat boy. :)
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He won't do it as much against NBA guys who are the cream of the crop. He is really raw but does have defensive talent.
he does have great defensive talent. Watching him in the summer leagues, he has really good footwork and definitely able to stay in front of his man and can get up there. The problem with his shot blocking during the summer was, his timing was always off. If he can get his timing better, he could definitely be a great defensive player for the celtics long term!
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That video clip up above isn't very persuasive. Fab Melo looks out of control on many of those defensive possessions. He just playing against lousy competition so he is getting with it because he is bigger and more athletic than everyone.
I still think the D-League is the wrong place for a big man like Fab Melo. Learning things that won't work at an NBA level. Building bad habits.
Completely disagree. This is much better competition than he faced in Syracuse. All of these are borderline NBA players. Most of these blocks were on help defense where he came out of absolutely nowhere and wasn't even on the shooters radar. It's not like he got a fingertip on the ball either, as the majority of his blocks were definitive spikes. As far as his offensive moves, that may not translate for a while...but who cares. His role with the Celtics will be to protect the rim and rebound...anything he gives you offensively is gravy.
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One game, people. Good grief.
This guy is not the answer this season, and he may not be useful ever.
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One game, people. Good grief.
This guy is not the answer this season, and he may not be useful ever.
One spectacular game that could've told us that he can contribute to the team already. He may not be the answer completely, but he could be part of a solution that will eventually solve our problems. He's looking really good, and I he can translate that in the big league, we have a gem.
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One game, people. Good grief.
This guy is not the answer this season, and he may not be useful ever.
As a coach, you must be quite a motivator.
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I just watched the block party video. Are these D league guys idiots? They kept taking the ball to Melo, even though he was spiking their shots out of bounds.
How about pulling up for a mid-range shot, D League scrub?
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I just watched the block party video. Are these D league guys idiots? They kept taking the ball to Melo, even though he was spiking their shots out of bounds.
How about pulling up for a mid-range shot, D League scrub?
How many Brazilian steak dinners did it cost him?
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Here's a cut and paste from the other silly Fab Melo thread:
"He hasn't played anywhere near that well so far. He's been like the 10th best player on that D-League roster. They have like 5 guys averaging 20 points. Lol.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/maine/statistics/
Before anyone gets too excitable, it should be pointed out that Melo is merely averaging 7 points, 5 rebounds and 2 blocks in a children's league. There's about 90 players outperforming him in that league so far."
Ok contrarian we get it. 14 blocks is 14 blocks. you know how many Sullinger has for the year? 13. What about Wilcox? 9
How many blocks do Wilcox and SUlly have in the d-league?
How many blocks does Fab Melo have in the NBA?
You can't compare the two. One is the best talent in the world and the other is a Children's league.
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Here's a cut and paste from the other silly Fab Melo thread:
"He hasn't played anywhere near that well so far. He's been like the 10th best player on that D-League roster. They have like 5 guys averaging 20 points. Lol.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/maine/statistics/
Before anyone gets too excitable, it should be pointed out that Melo is merely averaging 7 points, 5 rebounds and 2 blocks in a children's league. There's about 90 players outperforming him in that league so far."
Ok contrarian we get it. 14 blocks is 14 blocks. you know how many Sullinger has for the year? 13. What about Wilcox? 9
How many blocks do Wilcox and SUlly have in the d-league?
How many blocks does Fab Melo have in the NBA?
You can't compare the two. One is the best talent in the world and the other is a Children's league.
(http://exurbanpedestrian.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/captainhyperbole2.jpg)
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Yep, it was b/c he was bigger than everyone, yea that's it ::)... FAB is the tallest DLeaguer EVER! Yep, it's b/c they weren't taking enough jumpers, that's it...
You guys will try to downplay anything this guy does b/c it's the DLEAGUE but if it was as easy to do then why did he beat the league record all time by 3 blocks? Was he the only guy ever that was one of the taller players on the court? Just makes no sense!
It took Stiems to age 27 to even make an NBA team for real and all he could do was block shots! Are you seriously saying that Melo couldn't do the same? Get outta here!!! The guy at least has as much instinct for swatting balls as Stiems did and he is only 22! So get out my sight with the negativity!
Edit: Stiems only full season of DLeague action stats
09-10 45 games averages: 28 mins, FG% 54, 82% FTs, 7rbs, 1 assist, .7 Stls, 3.6 blocks, 9pts
Fab Melo
12-13 9 game averages: 24 mins, FG% 50, 50% FTs, 6rbs, .2 assist, .4 Stls, 3.3blocks, 8pts
In 4 more minutes per game Stiems has only a slight advantage in everything except for FT% where he obviously was/is miles better than Fab (well, I couldn't find Stiems' first 9 game averages so yea 45 games to 9 is kinda weird but w/e)!