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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: jdub1660 on December 17, 2012, 04:54:23 PM
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The offense is bad. Really bad.
We do need a big man, but maybe we get one closer to Feb or pick up a fundamental guy (like Perk)
Eric Gordon should be a prime candidate
Gordon and Lopez to BOS
Green, Bradley, Bass, Melo and picks to NOH
Rondo, Gordon, Pierce, KG/Sully, Lopez
Make this "Big 3" try one more season. KG and Pierce probably retire at the end of the season with or w/o this trade, freeing up cap space to pick up another young gun to put with Rondo. ie. Josh Smith, Dwight etc
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Pass on EG..health is major issue
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And get three games of good offense?
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Yea, Gordon's injuries scare me too much.
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I don't think he actually has any health problems currently, he just didn't want to play in NOH at all this season so he says his knees aren't okay. Even asked them not to match Phoneix's offer
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Gordon is not a top SG. He's undersized, not much of a passer, and from what I've seen, a below-average defender.
Sure, he can score the ball like crazy, but scoring two-guards come a dime a dozen in this league.
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I don't think he actually has any health problems currently, he just didn't want to play in NOH at all this season so he says his knees aren't okay. Even asked them not to match Phoneix's offer
Wouldn't want someone who holds team hostage, to get what they want.
Pass on that alone.
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If we were to go by a score first SG mentality, I would take Monta over Gordon.
However, this isn't the most urgent need in our situation, so, I'll pass.
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The Eric Gordon that has missed the last 100 or so straight games? No thanks.
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If the c's trade for a sg, it should be Monta Ellis
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with your trade we would be left with sullinger starting at PF and no back up. KG is no longer a power forward, and hasnt played power forward in nearly 2 years. He has lost nearly all lateral quickness to play and defend the 4 full time.
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If Gordon is healthy, then absolutely I am on board.
Despite Terry and Lee who are streaky shooters, the Celts do need a pure shooting guard and Lopez solidifies the front court.
Avery Bradley for President in 2016
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The offense is bad. Really bad.
Not really.
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If the c's trade for a sg, it should be Monta Ellis
While I think Ellis would be an awesome sixth man/instant offense type player, we've got an overcrowded guard rotation as it is.
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...but scoring two-guards come a dime a dozen in this league.
My least favorite NBA cliche. Not defending this trade or Gordon -- just knocking this meaningless line.
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I think Gordon's health is about to be tested. His rehab is finished, and he's about to return to basketball related activities.
http://www.atthehive.com/2012/12/17/3778314/eric-gordon-injury-update
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The offense is bad. Really bad.
Not true.
The defense it bad though.
But if we trade for an SG (highly doubtful), I'd rather take a gamble on a project like Tyreke Evans... Everyone seems to be sold on EG as a future All-Star, but I'm wondering if he's ever going to be healthy enough to prove it. He's got all the makings of a Brandon Roy Redux
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Interesting thread. As others have said health and head a major issue. But that also puts his value at possibly its lowest point. To me that makes getting him in a trade very do-able.
He looked good on team USA and i really just think he's been avoiding suiting up for the Pelicans in any way possible. Yes that fact alone is a huge red flag but if we could get him for pieces we could potentially have a HUGE steal. Just sayin..
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Interesting thread. As others have said health and head a major issue. But that also puts his value at possibly its lowest point. To me that makes getting him in a trade very do-able.
He looked good on team USA and i really just think he's been avoiding suiting up for the Pelicans in any way possible. Yes that fact alone is a huge red flag but if we could get him for pieces we could potentially have a HUGE steal. Just sayin..
The only thing keeping us from getting him in a trade is his salary, which means we'd be giving up some fairly substantial pieces for a guy who is already almost chronically injured.
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A guard rotation on Rondo, Ab, and Terry should be fine for the next couple of years.
After Terry retires the Cs should be looking for a 6'4+ scoring 2/3. This is why early on in the draft process I was hoping that Terrance Ross would drop to us.
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Gordon is not a top SG. He's undersized, not much of a passer, and from what I've seen, a below-average defender.
He's undersized, but I'd say he's a pretty good passer (4.4 assists per game in his last healthy season), and he's generally regarded as a pretty good defender.
His injuries are too serious to gamble on, though.
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I think Bradley can be just as good and Robin Lopez isn't an NBA starter.
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Gordon is not a top SG. He's undersized, not much of a passer, and from what I've seen, a below-average defender.
He's undersized, but I'd say he's a pretty good passer (4.4 assists per game in his last healthy season), and he's generally regarded as a pretty good defender.
His injuries are too serious to gamble on, though.
Here's my question. Are we sure these "injuries" are legit? I mean he looked fine during the summer for team USA. What happened to keep him out this long?
He did tell the Pelicans not to match the offer sheet from Phoenix, which was widely documented. You don't think he could possibly just be sitting out to spite his team?
There was litterally no information going into the season saying he was unhealthy at that point. It litterally came out of nowhere as soon as the games started to count.
I admit this is a huge red flag but if the kid IS healthy and just being a pill shouldn't we roll the dice?
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Gordon is not a top SG. He's undersized, not much of a passer, and from what I've seen, a below-average defender.
He's undersized, but I'd say he's a pretty good passer (4.4 assists per game in his last healthy season), and he's generally regarded as a pretty good defender.
His injuries are too serious to gamble on, though.
Here's my question. Are we sure these "injuries" are legit? I mean he looked fine during the summer for team USA. What happened to keep him out this long?
He did tell the Pelicans not to match the offer sheet from Phoenix, which was widely documented. You don't think he could possibly just be sitting out to spite his team?
There was litterally no information going into the season saying he was unhealthy at that point. It litterally came out of nowhere as soon as the games started to count.
I admit this is a huge red flag but if the kid IS healthy and just being a pill shouldn't we roll the dice? This of course is assuming he could be had for parts and late picks.
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Gordon is not a top SG. He's undersized, not much of a passer, and from what I've seen, a below-average defender.
He's undersized, but I'd say he's a pretty good passer (4.4 assists per game in his last healthy season), and he's generally regarded as a pretty good defender.
His injuries are too serious to gamble on, though.
Here's my question. Are we sure these "injuries" are legit? I mean he looked fine during the summer for team USA. What happened to keep him out this long?
He did tell the Pelicans not to match the offer sheet from Phoenix, which was widely documented. You don't think he could possibly just be sitting out to spite his team?
There was litterally no information going into the season saying he was unhealthy at that point. It litterally came out of nowhere as soon as the games started to count.
I admit this is a huge red flag but if the kid IS healthy and just being a pill shouldn't we roll the dice? This of course is assuming he could be had for parts and late picks.
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I think I would rather have Evans.
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If the c's trade for a sg, it should be Monta Ellis
While I think Ellis would be an awesome sixth man/instant offense type player, we've got an overcrowded guard rotation as it is.
As the team is currently constructed, the guard rotation is overcrowded; however, if the c's address their real need for a big man they may have to give up one or two of the guards currently on the roster.
To me, moving green should only occur at the trade deadline. Because of his potential, he should be given a little more time to show what he can do for this team. If he still has not shown himself to be what the celtics expect, he should be moved if the right deal comes along. The only attainable sg I would trade green for would be Ellis. I am not a big fan of Eric Gordon. I think he is overrated, and too injury prone.
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The offense is bad. Really bad.
Not really.
No really at all. 12th in points scored. 2nd in assists per game. 5th in field goal percentage. 4th in free throw percentage.
That's really good in most eyes I would have to think.
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Gordon is not a top SG. He's undersized, not much of a passer, and from what I've seen, a below-average defender.
He's undersized, but I'd say he's a pretty good passer (4.4 assists per game in his last healthy season), and he's generally regarded as a pretty good defender.
His injuries are too serious to gamble on, though.
Here's my question. Are we sure these "injuries" are legit? I mean he looked fine during the summer for team USA. What happened to keep him out this long?
He did tell the Pelicans not to match the offer sheet from Phoenix, which was widely documented. You don't think he could possibly just be sitting out to spite his team?
There was litterally no information going into the season saying he was unhealthy at that point. It litterally came out of nowhere as soon as the games started to count.
I admit this is a huge red flag but if the kid IS healthy and just being a pill shouldn't we roll the dice?
He was shut down during training camp, way before the preseason started.
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Gordon and Lopez for Green, Bradley, Bass, Melo and picks?
Umm.. Rip-off?
I wouldn't give any of those players alone for EG, let alone all of them plus picks for EG and Lopez.. Jeeez.