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Title: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: gpap on December 15, 2012, 12:18:15 PM
....of course this is dependant on alot of things

1.) Will he ever be healthy enough to play this year?

2.) Could/would the Celtics be able to lock him long-term, beyond this season?

3.) Would Philly ever consider trading him to another team in the same division?

Those 3 questions aside, I've got to think a package of Lee, Bass, Green, Bradley and/or Sullinger would be able to get you Bynum.

Then (if healthy) the Celtics lock up the 2nd best center in the NBA for years to come.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 12:20:52 PM
I think Philly would rather have the cap space than have Bass/Lee eating up their cap space for the next couple of seasons.

I do think there is a small chance Philly considers moving Bynum if they are uncomfortable enough about his health and decide they will not resign him in the summer. And I do think Bynum could be had for a low price in that scenario ... but Boston doesn't match up trade package wise.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 12:23:50 PM
I don't know if I would want to give up assets and then sign him to a long term deal considering his knee issues. He might be done. That's a huge risk to take.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: BballTim on December 15, 2012, 12:25:17 PM
  He's had 1 healthy season in 8 years. So you'd be fairly lucky to get a healthy season out of him if you locked him up long term and extremely lucky to get more than 1 healthy year.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 12:30:58 PM
Andrew Bynum will be looking at a five year $100 million contract extension.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: BballTim on December 15, 2012, 12:37:05 PM
Andrew Bynum will be looking at a five year $100 million contract extension.

  Ever see any old Westerns where a guy in a casino puts a big pile of chips on a number on the roulette table, the owner gulps down a large shot of whiskey and shouts out "go ahead, spin the wheel!"? That's how I'd imagine deciding to offer a contract like that to Bynum would look.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on December 15, 2012, 12:43:06 PM
Andrew Bynum will be looking at a five year $100 million contract extension.

That is the HUGE risk. He maybe done. On the other hand, if he gets healthy, boy...!

Is there some sort of an insurance thing ala Peyton Manning in the NBA? In case he Bynum can't play? Then again, maybe I'm answering my own question because if there is, then it shouldn't be a problem for any teams to sign him.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 12:47:16 PM
Andrew Bynum will be looking at a five year $100 million contract extension.

That is the HUGE risk. He maybe done. On the other hand, if he gets healthy, boy...!

Is there some sort of an insurance thing ala Peyton Manning in the NBA? In case he Bynum can't play? Then again, maybe I'm answering my own question because if there is, then it shouldn't be a problem for any teams to sign him.

Even if there is some insurance option for the salary, which I doubt, the salary would still a team's cap space for years.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on December 15, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
Andrew Bynum will be looking at a five year $100 million contract extension.

That is the HUGE risk. He maybe done. On the other hand, if he gets healthy, boy...!

Is there some sort of an insurance thing ala Peyton Manning in the NBA? In case he Bynum can't play? Then again, maybe I'm answering my own question because if there is, then it shouldn't be a problem for any teams to sign him.

Even if there is some insurance option for the salary, which I doubt, the salary would still a team's cap space for years.

But you can amnesty the contract to clear cap space. Then again, i doubt that there's an insurance thing. So it's a really risky move.

I might as well wait for Blatche and offer him 4 years/20 million.  ;D
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: BballTim on December 15, 2012, 12:59:53 PM
Andrew Bynum will be looking at a five year $100 million contract extension.

That is the HUGE risk. He maybe done. On the other hand, if he gets healthy, boy...!

Is there some sort of an insurance thing ala Peyton Manning in the NBA? In case he Bynum can't play? Then again, maybe I'm answering my own question because if there is, then it shouldn't be a problem for any teams to sign him.

Even if there is some insurance option for the salary, which I doubt, the salary would still a team's cap space for years.

But you can amnesty the contract to clear cap space. Then again, i doubt that there's an insurance thing. So it's a really risky move.

I might as well wait for Blatche and offer him 4 years/20 million.  ;D

  I think you can only amnesty contracts that were in place when the CBA was signed.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on December 15, 2012, 01:42:23 PM
Heck, no.  ;D

Seriously, though, he's made of glass, and has a huge attitude problem. I don't know if the NBA allows contract incentives, but the only way I'd take Bynum is on a vet min contract loaded with performance incentives.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 02:17:38 PM
Andrew Bynum will be looking at a five year $100 million contract extension.



That is the HUGE risk. He maybe done. On the other hand, if he gets healthy, boy...!

Is there some sort of an insurance thing ala Peyton Manning in the NBA? In case he Bynum can't play? Then again, maybe I'm answering my own question because if there is, then it shouldn't be a problem for any teams to sign him.

Even if there is some insurance option for the salary, which I doubt, the salary would still a team's cap space for years.

But you can amnesty the contract to clear cap space. Then again, i doubt that there's an insurance thing. So it's a really risky move.

I might as well wait for Blatche and offer him 4 years/20 million.  ;D

He'll neever be NBA heathy again as he once was...

Bynum is done as the guy who took the Celtics to task years ago. At best he might see the court again with injections to lub up the knees, bone on bone is a BAD thing.

As the wear continues , the injections of artifical lubricates to replace the missing cartilage becomes less effective and doesn't last him as long .  His first one made him into SUPERMAN and helped sink the Celtics.

 He needs a modern medical miracle that alot of us need (me included) replacement cartilage that just isn't quite ready for humans (stim cell grown cart.)....its here for horses yes. athough very expensive.

Maybe a couple more injections and he is done.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: csfansince60s on December 15, 2012, 03:15:42 PM
Andrew Bynum will be looking at a five year $100 million contract extension.

  Ever see any old Westerns where a guy in a casino puts a big pile of chips on a number on the roulette table, the owner gulps down a large shot of whiskey and shouts out "go ahead, spin the wheel!"? That's how I'd imagine deciding to offer a contract like that to Bynum would look.

Although in that scenario, the house (owner) usually wins at odds of 36 to 1.

In that scenario, we're the guy putting up the chips, with the odds severely stacked against us.

Huge risk that could set us back years.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: Celtics4ever on December 15, 2012, 03:44:23 PM
I hope not.   What is the attraction with crippled guys here? It's almost a fetish.  Perk, Bynum and Oden these guys are beyond damaged goods.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: BballTim on December 15, 2012, 04:13:12 PM
Andrew Bynum will be looking at a five year $100 million contract extension.

  Ever see any old Westerns where a guy in a casino puts a big pile of chips on a number on the roulette table, the owner gulps down a large shot of whiskey and shouts out "go ahead, spin the wheel!"? That's how I'd imagine deciding to offer a contract like that to Bynum would look.

Although in that scenario, the house (owner) usually wins at odds of 36 to 1.

In that scenario, we're the guy putting up the chips, with the odds severely stacked against us.

Huge risk that could set us back years.

  You must have watched different westerns than I did, the guy betting won at least a quarter of the time.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: Celtics4ever on December 15, 2012, 04:19:12 PM
Your best odds are blackjack and is memory serves your chance is like .49% today.  I am sure they had professional gamblers as dealers who got a take of the house winning so you'd be facing even longer odds back then.

I would say the odds of him recovering are less than 25%.

But bet on the hero in the westerns they usually win.
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 04:40:45 PM
Bynum? oh heck no no no no no no no no no noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo way!
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: csfansince60s on December 15, 2012, 06:54:36 PM
Andrew Bynum will be looking at a five year $100 million contract extension.

  Ever see any old Westerns where a guy in a casino puts a big pile of chips on a number on the roulette table, the owner gulps down a large shot of whiskey and shouts out "go ahead, spin the wheel!"? That's how I'd imagine deciding to offer a contract like that to Bynum would look.


Although in that scenario, the house (owner) usually wins at odds of 36 to 1.

In that scenario, we're the guy putting up the chips, with the odds severely stacked against us.

Huge risk that could set us back years.

  You must have watched different westerns than I did, the guy betting won at least a quarter of the time.

You're being conservative. I think in those Westerns, they defied the odds even more than that, probably like 90%. Maverick was the best.:)


Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: Big Rondo on December 15, 2012, 07:12:01 PM
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Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: BballTim on December 15, 2012, 07:31:17 PM
Andrew Bynum will be looking at a five year $100 million contract extension.

  Ever see any old Westerns where a guy in a casino puts a big pile of chips on a number on the roulette table, the owner gulps down a large shot of whiskey and shouts out "go ahead, spin the wheel!"? That's how I'd imagine deciding to offer a contract like that to Bynum would look.


Although in that scenario, the house (owner) usually wins at odds of 36 to 1.

In that scenario, we're the guy putting up the chips, with the odds severely stacked against us.

Huge risk that could set us back years.

  You must have watched different westerns than I did, the guy betting won at least a quarter of the time.

You're being conservative. I think in those Westerns, they defied the odds even more than that, probably like 90%. Maverick was the best.:)

  Funny, I was thinking same actor, different movie. "Support your local gunfighter".
Title: Re: Could Andrew Bynum Be A Mid-Season Target?
Post by: mr. dee on December 15, 2012, 09:39:58 PM
Phoenix should get him instead. Who knows? Look at JO right now.