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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: OhioGreen on December 15, 2012, 08:00:01 AM
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This stretch of games could define our season. I think we'll know whether it's time to rebuild or not at it's conclusion. IMHO it looks grim however. Eight road games, and only the Kings looking like a good chance at a win, and they've even been surprising some teams lately. Home against Cavs, Bucks, Grizz and Pacers doesn't look good either. Bucks have already given us fits. Pacers we never do well against. No chance against Grizz. So that leaves Cavs. Good chance there, but Kyrie is back, and we haven't been able to stop him in his brief career against us, and Sideshow Bob will probably get 40 rebounds.
Worst case is probably 2-10, 1-11. Best case 5-6. The way we're playing--I'm not hopeful, but at least we'll know whether it's time to throw in the towel and start rebuilding or not!
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Bradley should likely be returning during this stretch too..should be interesting
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This stretch of games could define our season. I think we'll know whether it's time to rebuild or not at it's conclusion. IMHO it looks grim however. Eight road games, and only the Kings looking like a good chance at a win, and they've even been surprising some teams lately. Home against Cavs, Bucks, Grizz and Pacers doesn't look good either. Bucks have already given us fits. Pacers we never do well against. No chance against Grizz. So that leaves Cavs. Good chance there, but Kyrie is back, and we haven't been able to stop him in his brief career against us, and Sideshow Bob will probably get 40 rebounds.
Worst case is probably 2-10, 1-11. Best case 5-6. The way we're playing--I'm not hopeful, but at least we'll know whether it's time to throw in the towel and start rebuilding or not!
Agree with most all this . Its sad , but true , the way this team is struggling , maybe 2 -3 wins with current lineups . With Bradley maybe 5 or 6 . ( which would be amazing given what has already transpired.)
Celtics are lucky Green has stepped up his game and KG seems to feel good despite his age.
Green and Barbosa need more minutes.
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This stretch of games could define our season. I think we'll know whether it's time to rebuild or not at it's conclusion. IMHO it looks grim however. Eight road games, and only the Kings looking like a good chance at a win, and they've even been surprising some teams lately. Home against Cavs, Bucks, Grizz and Pacers doesn't look good either. Bucks have already given us fits. Pacers we never do well against. No chance against Grizz. So that leaves Cavs. Good chance there, but Kyrie is back, and we haven't been able to stop him in his brief career against us, and Sideshow Bob will probably get 40 rebounds.
Worst case is probably 2-10, 1-11. Best case 5-6. The way we're playing--I'm not hopeful, but at least we'll know whether it's time to throw in the towel and start rebuilding or not!
Since you already see 5-6 as the best case, you see us going 17-16 in your optimistic prediction.
Say, then, would you throw in the towel at that record?
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Worst case is probably 2-10, 1-11. Best case 5-6.
So you are expecting us to go 3-9 or 4-8. I think we'll do better than that in which case you won't need to throw in the towel just yet. If we are playing above your expectations there won't be a need to give up.
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Worst case is probably 2-10, 1-11. Best case 5-6.
So you are expecting us to go 3-9 or 4-8. I think we'll do better than that in which case you won't need to throw in the towel just yet. If we are playing above your expectations there won't be a need to give up.
This stretch of games could define our season. I think we'll know whether it's time to rebuild or not at it's conclusion. IMHO it looks grim however. Eight road games, and only the Kings looking like a good chance at a win, and they've even been surprising some teams lately. Home against Cavs, Bucks, Grizz and Pacers doesn't look good either. Bucks have already given us fits. Pacers we never do well against. No chance against Grizz. So that leaves Cavs. Good chance there, but Kyrie is back, and we haven't been able to stop him in his brief career against us, and Sideshow Bob will probably get 40 rebounds.
Worst case is probably 2-10, 1-11. Best case 5-6. The way we're playing--I'm not hopeful, but at least we'll know whether it's time to throw in the towel and start rebuilding or not!
Since you already see 5-6 as the best case, you see us going 17-16 in your optimistic prediction.
Say, then, would you throw in the towel at that record?
I surely wouldn't be encouraged not to----unless:
1) AB appears to be having a huge differnce in our play, or
2) DA has recently swung a trade for a player/s that give good reason that a turn around would be quite possible
As currently constructed, however, if we did go, say 3-8 or 4-9, with AB playing and no changes, I'd pretty much say it's rebuilding time!
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Given the surprise teams bucks etc.. Is there a chance this team misses the playoffs??
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Given the surprise teams bucks etc.. Is there a chance this team misses the playoffs??
Hard to believe the Celtics finish with a worse record than the Bucks AND the Sixers AND the Nets AND the Pacers AND the Bulls AND the Hawks.
At least a couple of those teams, at this rate, will probably end up higher in the standings. But most, or all of them? I doubt it. That's what it would take for the Cs to miss the playoffs.
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Given the surprise teams bucks etc.. Is there a chance this team misses the playoffs??
With the way the past few seasons have been, with teams with losing records sneaking into the 7th or 8th seeds, I think we'll probably still make it, perhaps with a losing record!
I'm still really hoping DA can pull something off, if we are really "all in" this year, to make one last run! If he doesn't, I would rather keep our young players and commence rebuilding immediately. No sense backing into the playoffs, worsening our draft spot, and losing in the first or second round!
On another note, though---sometimes Danny does pull something off, and you go "what the ........!!!!!! ;D
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Given the surprise teams bucks etc.. Is there a chance this team misses the playoffs??
With the way the past few seasons have been, with teams with losing records sneaking into the 7th or 8th seeds, I think we'll probably still make it, perhaps with a losing record!
I'm still really hoping DA can pull something off, if we are really "all in" this year, to make one last run! If he doesn't, I would rather keep our young players and commence rebuilding immediately. No sense backing into the playoffs, worsening our draft spot, and losing in the first or second round!
On another note, though---sometimes Danny does pull something off, and you go "what the ........!!!!!! ;D
At this point last season people who claimed there was a decent chance we'd finish ahead of Philly in the standings were referred to as delusional. It's way too early to throw in the towel.
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You would think fans wouldve learned from last year that just because the C's dont look so hot early in the season not to doubt them..
but I guess its the same, we have no chance, will probably miss the playoffs,....until we go on some streak near the all-star break and everyone comes back praising the team.
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I surely wouldn't be encouraged not to----unless:
1) AB appears to be having a huge differnce in our play, or
2) DA has recently swung a trade for a player/s that give good reason that a turn around would be quite possible
As currently constructed, however, if we did go, say 3-8 or 4-9, with AB playing and no changes, I'd pretty much say it's rebuilding time!
I don't know. Things wouldn't be looking promising. But if there isn't something good for rebuilding purpose present on market, it would also mean rebuilding should wait till the end of the season. Since it's going to take time, there is no need to pull the trigger just for the sake of doing it, in my opinion.
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I'm really torn with these C's. I keep watching game after game, telling myself they can't be this bad! Then they play well in a couple spurts or a game, and I get psyched---only to be dashed back to earth...and it keeps happening time after time after time. Hey, we've had a complete preseason and more than a fourth of the regular season. It's just not coming together! And, come on. Last year was an incredible turn around, but please, those things are very rare, so even drinking the green koolaid I can't convince myself that lightning is gonna strike twice in the same place!
Now, perhaps with a trade(or two), that's a different story! It's what I hold out hope for and I believe far more credible than we just all of a sudden start playing like a championship team!
Last year we inserted AB into the starting lineup and moved KG to center and the results were unbelievable. I just don't see a personnel tweak that could produce those results this year!
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I miss being able to look at the schedule and think, hmmm, win, win, win, win, win, close game but win, win, maybe loss, win.
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I'm really torn with these C's. I keep watching game after game, telling myself they can't be this bad! Then they play well in a couple spurts or a game, and I get psyched---only to be dashed back to earth...and it keeps happening time after time after time. Hey, we've had a complete preseason and more than a fourth of the regular season. It's just not coming together! And, come on. Last year was an incredible turn around, but please, those things are very rare, so even drinking the green koolaid I can't convince myself that lightning is gonna strike twice in the same place!
Now, perhaps with a trade(or two), that's a different story! It's what I hold out hope for and I believe far more credible than we just all of a sudden start playing like a championship team!
Last year we inserted AB into the starting lineup and moved KG to center and the results were unbelievable. I just don't see a personnel tweak that could produce those results this year!
All I can say is, good luck getting through the rest of the regular season, it's going to be a long 4 months for you.
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I'm really torn with these C's. I keep watching game after game, telling myself they can't be this bad! Then they play well in a couple spurts or a game, and I get psyched---only to be dashed back to earth...and it keeps happening time after time after time. Hey, we've had a complete preseason and more than a fourth of the regular season. It's just not coming together! And, come on. Last year was an incredible turn around, but please, those things are very rare, so even drinking the green koolaid I can't convince myself that lightning is gonna strike twice in the same place!
Now, perhaps with a trade(or two), that's a different story! It's what I hold out hope for and I believe far more credible than we just all of a sudden start playing like a championship team!
Last year we inserted AB into the starting lineup and moved KG to center and the results were unbelievable. I just don't see a personnel tweak that could produce those results this year!
All I can say is, good luck getting through the rest of the regular season, it's going to be a long 4 months for you.
It already has been a long 6 weeks of the season! ;D I just thought we were really gonna be one of the top two teams before the season started, but PP has gotten old fast, and with Steimer off to Minny, our interior D and shot blocking is just non existent! KG just can't do it alone, and even he is very slowly being beaten by the only one that can match his intensity----father time!!
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I wonder when people are going to come to the realization that we are going to play .500 ball til the all star break AGAIN.
Then flip our switch and win the Division again.
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I wonder when people are going to come to the realization that we are going to play .500 ball til the all star break AGAIN.
Then flip our switch and win the Division again.
I am inclined to believe we are not going to win the division this year. Even if the C's do pick up their play, which I expect for various reasons, the Knicks are likely too good to catch. The C's have spotted NYK a nice little lead.
The Knicks look to be serious this year. Carmelo has been in beast mode.
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7-5, 6-6 is my prediction. This team will keep struggling until the ASG, but they're not a bad team.
They'll keep winning games, no doubt, and after the ASG they'll win even more games.