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Title: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: FLCeltsFan on December 15, 2012, 12:29:01 AM
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Boston Celtics (12-10)  at  San Antonio Spurs (18-6)
Saturday, December 15, 2012
8:30 PM ET
Regular Season Game #23  Road Game #11
TV:  NBA-TV,  NBAC, CSN-NE, KENS
Radio: WOAI, WEEI
AT&T Center

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Probable Starters
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Probable Starters
PG:   Rajon Rondo
SG:   Jason Terry 
SF:    Paul Pierce
PF:    Brandon Bass 
C:     Kevin Garnett

Celtics Reserves
Jared Sullinger
Jason Collins
Jeff Green
Courtney Lee
Leandro Barbosa
Chris Wilcox

Injured
Avery Bradley (shoulders) out

Red Claws
Fab Melo
Kris Joseph

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Probable Starters
PG(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/1015.jpg) SG(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/gary_neal.jpg) SF(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/danny_green.jpg) PF(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/215.jpg) C(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/3965.jpg)
PG:  Tony Parker 
SG:  Gary Neal
SF:  Danny Green
PF:  Tim Duncan   
C:   Dejuan Blair 

Reserves
Matt Bonner
Nando De Colo
Boris Diaw
Manu Ginobili
Kawhi Leonard
Patrick Mills
Tiago Splitter
Cory Joseph

Injuries
Kawhi Leonard (knee)  out
Stephen Jackson (finger)  out

Team Connections
Doc Rivers played for San Antonio during the 1994-95 and 1995-96 seasons
Avery Bradley and Cory Joseph both attended Texas
Kris Joseph and Cory Joseph were both born in Canada
Fab Melo, Leandro Barbosa and Tiago Splitter were born in Brazil
Rajon Rondo and Stephen Jackson both attended Oak Hill Academy
Jason Terry was teammates with Boris Diaw and Stephen Jackson in Atlanta during the 2003-04 season
Boris Diaw and Leandro Barbosa were teammates in Phoenix from 2005-09.

Key Matchups
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Rajon Rondo vs Tony Parker
 When Rondo is aggressive and focused, he can pretty much take on any point guard in the league, including Parker.  Rondo usually gets up for big games and this is a big one.  Hopefully aggressive Rondo shows up for this one. 

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Brandon Bass vs Tim Duncan
Brandon will have his hands full in this matchup. Duncan still brings a lot to the table, especially defensively.  He is great at getting position for rebounds and tip ins and Bass and the other Celtics bigs need to concentrate on keeping him away from the basket. 

Honorable Mention
Kevin Garnett vs Dejuan Blair
I expect KG and Bass to switch on assignments from time to time and so we will see KG on Duncan, at least part of the time.  Duncan is having a very good year so far and the Celtics need to try to slow him down. 

Game Notes
The Celtics continue their road trip with a stop in San Antonio to face the ageless Tim Duncan and the Spurs.  The Spurs are a very good home team with a 7-2 record at the AT&T Center.  The Celtics are 4-6 on the road. 

The Spurs have lost their last 2 games and so will come out strong  in this one looking to get back on track.  The Celtics are coming off a loss to the Rockets in their first game of the road trip.  They also need to get back on track but in the second of back to back games on the road, it's hard to say if they will have the focus or the energy to do so.

Doc started Courtney Lee against the Rockets and moved Jason Terry back into his 6th man role.   The results of the move weren't all that positive as the Celtics got off to a very slow start.  I'm thinking that Doc may go back to JET in the starting lineup but he may also stick with Lee. 

Keys to the Game 
Defense - The Celtics must make defense a priority in this game.
The Spurs are  a good offensive team, ranking 2nd in the league and averaging 104.8 points per game  The Celtics are 12th in scoring, averaging 98.3 points per game.   Both teams have slipped a bit on defense with the Spurs allowing and 44% FG%.  The Celtics have slipped even more,  allowing teams to shoot 45% against them.  The Celtics must lock down the Spurs on defense because chances are, they won't win a shoot out against them.

Focus - On the road against a team like the Spurs, the Celtics must keep their focus from the opening tip to the final buzzer.   The Spurs are very capable of taking advantage of any lack of focus on the Celtics part.   The Celtics need to put in a strong effort for 48 minutes in spite of playing in a hostile environment.    The Spurs won't let up and neither can the Celtics if they want to win this one. 

Rebound
  The Spurs are 10th in the league in rebounding with 42.9 rebounds per game.   The Celtics are still last with 38.5 rebounds per game.  Rebounding is all about effort and desire.  The Celtics need to crash the boards as a team and if they put out the effort in this area, it will translate to the rest of their game.   The Spurs will translate rebounds into points and so the Celtics must beat them to the boards. 

Be Aggressive  When the Celtics are aggressive in going after loose balls, taking the ball to the hoop and playing in your face defense, they are very tough to beat.    When they get lazy and allow teams to beat them to loose balls and rebounds and when they settle for jumpers and don't go to the basket, they are very beatable.  They must stay aggressive and that starts with Rondo.  Hopefully he comes out aggressively in this game. 

Bench Play
-  The second unit must come through for the Celtics.   They need quality minutes from everyone in the second unit.  The Celtics are playing in the second of back to back games on the road and in this situation, bench play is even more important than usual.   

X-Factor

On the Road and Fatigue
The Celtics need to keep their focus playing on the road even though it's easy to loose focus in a hostile arena and with the travel and all that goes with it.  Also, playing in the second of back to back games on the road isn't usually a strong point for the Celtics.  Fatigue could be a factor down the stretch.   

Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 12:35:19 AM
Kawhi and Jacks are still out.

I think Pierce and Green are again keys to beating this San Antonio team. The Spurs have no wings with enough size/bulk to handle Pierce and/or Green. They have to exploit that. They didn't do enough last time round. They must correct that this time.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 12:38:57 AM
I like Jason Terry to start against Gary Neal. No point in using Courtney Lee here. It doesn't gain Boston anything but Terry gives Boston a matchup advantage over Neal.

I also like having Courtney Lee come off the bench to play against Manu Ginobili. C-Lee is Boston's defensive choice against Manu.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: cman88 on December 15, 2012, 01:09:23 AM
I have a feeling that we win this game...Celtics are usually good in san antonio
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 07:35:23 PM
I wish SA sat their stars for this game.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
I have a feeling that we win this game...Celtics are usually good in san antonio
Ever since Rondo came. He turned everything around.

Rondo has had some brilliant games against the Spurs. They have been completely unable to handle Rondo's ability to control a game with his non-scoring contributions (rebounding, defense, playmaking).
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: albas89 on December 15, 2012, 08:33:19 PM
I don't have a good feeling for this game. Last night's performance didn't help at all as well...
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 15, 2012, 08:34:21 PM
I like Jason Terry to start against Gary Neal. No point in using Courtney Lee here. It doesn't gain Boston anything but Terry gives Boston a matchup advantage over Neal.

I also like having Courtney Lee come off the bench to play against Manu Ginobili. C-Lee is Boston's defensive choice against Manu.

Hmm, I wanted to see Lee starting once again, but hadn't considered Manu off the bench. I'm reconsidering.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 08:35:45 PM
spurs aint playin their best ball at da moment i think we win dis one i expect a big game from Pierce since Leonard nd Captain Jack aint playin
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Scottie on December 15, 2012, 08:38:23 PM
Difficult to see this one being even close.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 08:38:47 PM
I'll guess a big game for Rondo and Terry. Solid game from KG and Sully, Pierce struggles, Celtics lose by 4.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 08:39:42 PM
Difficult to see this one being even close.

these are the type of games our team shows up for and loses in a close battle after playing like garbage against mediocre teams
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 15, 2012, 08:43:36 PM
KG will be a wall today for Duncan..
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 08:46:00 PM
Scal & Mike G work good together...scal is pretty good..!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 15, 2012, 08:46:35 PM
Two defensive lapses on the same player in a row.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 08:46:53 PM
okay, already same problem as last night..leaving the guy in the paint.....it again looks like 5 spurs on 4 celts....
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 08:47:35 PM
Ah, got the start time wrong. Didn't miss too much.

I really like San Antonio's silver strip. I'd like to see them use that more often.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 08:48:01 PM
Rondo is soo much better than parker.....if only he would play old school d also.....as one guy said...he does play a lot of minutes though....was that curly neal..?
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 08:48:52 PM
Splitter and Duncan on the floor at the same time. Interesting.

I hope San Antonio posts Splitter up against Bass. I want to see how good Splitter is creating one-on-one against Bass in the low block.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 08:49:24 PM
I don't think Wilcox can defend Tim Duncan. I'd love to see Jason Collins here.

This is a very bad matchup for Boston.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 08:50:26 PM
Duncan loses da ball outta bounds but its still there ball smh
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 08:50:57 PM
colins knows how to play duncan....does doc know how to play collins....??? Uhm, hate to say it...but popovich would....and pop would play fab melo......just sayin...! You know he would...!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: blink on December 15, 2012, 08:51:04 PM
Parker made C Lee look really bad right there.   CMON Lee, move the feet, get ready.  Do something!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 08:51:15 PM
I feel like we're playing well even though we are losing, blah.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 08:52:03 PM
Parker made C Lee look really bad right there.   CMON Lee, move the feet, get ready.  Do something!
can't wait till the paint to pick up on D....!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: blink on December 15, 2012, 08:52:25 PM
I think we started the game well. But we have to stop these bad mental breakdowns on D...
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 08:52:44 PM
Jet!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 08:53:23 PM
Sullinger needs to attack Diaw on the boards. Diaw is a lazy rebounder although I suppose he is good at boxing out.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 08:54:44 PM
I don't think either team can defend one another so I'd expect another high scoring offensive battle between these two teams.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 08:54:55 PM
Terry is a big time shooter who doesn't have issues with coming off the bench for us like Judas did. So refreshing.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 15, 2012, 08:55:23 PM
So far Wilcox bodying Duncan well.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 08:56:30 PM
Rebounding.....uhhhhhh
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 08:56:37 PM
gotta body them out at all costs......boody, boody, boody....!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 08:57:23 PM
Gotta love Sullinger.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 08:57:33 PM
I'm loving Sully's play so far. Really active and is in the right spot.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 08:57:36 PM
I'd say sully has taken the leon powe crown..and wears it well...he will keep getting better.....!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Big Rondo on December 15, 2012, 08:59:02 PM
This organization better not trade Sullinger. Most promising young player we've drafted since Joe Johnson
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: aporel#18 on December 15, 2012, 08:59:38 PM
I'd say sully has taken the leon powe crown..and wears it well...he will keep getting better.....!

TP for the bright future hopes you're bringing.

somehow, it stills feels like preseason. Can't wait for Avery to return and inspire our D.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 08:59:47 PM
Hey-now...omebody dun gave me a TP...yow.....kevin McHale.....that is a post player or what.....the MAN...! Thanks for the tp too.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 09:00:05 PM
This organization better not trade Sullinger. Most promising young player we've drafter since Joe Johnson

that means he's automatically gone soon, LOL. They better not trade him!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 15, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
FLOP!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 09:01:24 PM
Hope Ginobili's alright.  Thought he was acting cause he's a known flopper, but guess not.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:01:29 PM
This organization better not trade Sullinger. Most promising young player we've drafter since Joe Johnson

that means he's automatically gone soon, LOL. They better not trade him!
hope doc don't bench him for doing that thing....no one says the "R" word...LOL.....ginobili is not the cleanest player around....
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 09:03:16 PM
they have two freakin  centers . Maybe we'll have one someday.   KG doesn't count.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 09:03:16 PM
I don't like how slow Jeff Green is in starting his post move.

I also think he needs to fight to get another step deeper before the catch. Starting to far from the rim. Making more work for himself backing down his man. Allowing opposition more time to send help.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:03:16 PM
Why not Sullinger on the post up? He's doing the dirty work on the glass, let him have some fun on the block.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 09:03:25 PM
Looking sloppy
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:03:26 PM
wilcox cannot get burned by splitter..mman...
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 09:03:54 PM
Hope Ginobili's alright.  Thought he was acting cause he's a known flopper, but guess not.
It looked like Wilcox nailed him in the ribs with his left elbow.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 09:04:31 PM
Sigh, the dreaded Bass and Sully combo arises.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:04:54 PM
Sully nor Bass should ever be out there at center.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: aporel#18 on December 15, 2012, 09:04:57 PM
Come on Jeff... Get Angry!!!

Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 09:05:13 PM
Why not Sullinger on the post up? He's doing the dirty work on the glass, let him have some fun on the block.
I think Diaw is one of the better post defenders Sully has played against lately. Very strong, low center of gravity, tough to move, quick feet, hard to get around. Around the same size as Sully.

I'd like to see Sully get some post ups but I think they'll be easier opportunities to work that into the offense on other nights.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:05:22 PM
TD BANK....north...!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 15, 2012, 09:05:25 PM
Doc just doesn't learn. Wilcox playing well, Thiago overpowering Sully. What does he do? Subs Wilcox for Bass. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:06:20 PM
Sigh, the dreaded Bass and Sully combo arises.

As bad as I hate the combo, it is better than the Bass/Green pf/c combo.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
He call bank on that?
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 09:07:06 PM
Sullinger with 6 rebounds in the 1st quarter. He better slow down there before Doc benches him!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:07:41 PM
ginobili is the type that will elbow and knee you 1000 times and the ref will never see it....THAT is why you see a lot of guys doing what just hapened to him....and as for green....he needs to out-green..the other green, know what i mean....!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 09:07:49 PM
Sigh, the dreaded Bass and Sully combo arises.

As bad as I hate the combo, it is better than the Bass/Green pf/c combo.

Agreed. Green plays really well with KG, and plays awful next to Bass.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 09:08:16 PM
the latest and greatest way to play BB , is with midgets

Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:08:18 PM
Why not Sullinger on the post up? He's doing the dirty work on the glass, let him have some fun on the block.
I think Diaw is one of the better post defenders Sully has played against lately. Very strong, low center of gravity, tough to move, quick feet, hard to get around. Around the same size as Sully.

I'd like to see Sully get some post ups but I think they'll be easier opportunities to work that into the offense on other nights.

I can sorta agree but Sully on the block is more efficient than Green on the block. And that is the play we keep seeing.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:08:42 PM
He call bank on that?
as i say...i never CALL the bank when i am making a deposit...!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:09:52 PM
Why not Sullinger on the post up? He's doing the dirty work on the glass, let him have some fun on the block.
I think Diaw is one of the better post defenders Sully has played against lately. Very strong, low center of gravity, tough to move, quick feet, hard to get around. Around the same size as Sully.

I'd like to see Sully get some post ups but I think they'll be easier opportunities to work that into the offense on other nights.

I can sorta agree but Sully on the block is more efficient than Green on the block. And that is the play we keep seeing.
actually greeen is not a post guy.....he needs to slash....and shoot...dunk, layup...
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:11:13 PM
no offense meant to you scotth....just adding...
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 15, 2012, 09:11:46 PM
Look at that, ball movement and a corner 3.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 09:12:07 PM
Jet!!! Nice ball movement.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:12:38 PM
terry inside/outside...liking that..."who's man is THAT..!" LOL
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 09:12:44 PM
Terry is heating up!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: cltc5 on December 15, 2012, 09:13:23 PM
wait a minute, we;re only down by 2? :o
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
well, there ya go...soon as Garnet comes in ...a TALL GOOD BIG ..the score starts going back the Celtics way... ::)


Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:15:05 PM
San Antonio got the river WALK...stroll down there at night...BOSTON got the RIVER CHARLES...run away from there at night...edge, BOSTON...!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Change on December 15, 2012, 09:15:16 PM
JT freed yay.... Off course his scoring outburst comes without ball-hogging Rondo, or Chucker Pierce.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 09:15:31 PM
we get stop in the paint.

Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:16:34 PM
bonner leads the league in three %....!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ayer on December 15, 2012, 09:17:13 PM
KG should attack the rim!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:17:59 PM
okay man...THAT is the easiest shot to block..the revers...just step in and block it....stop being flatfooted..........
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 09:18:09 PM
what a flop
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: GronkSpike on December 15, 2012, 09:18:19 PM
Flop or not? Couldn't tell.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 09:18:24 PM
I'd like Doc to go small against Matt Bonner.

Stick Jeff Green on him. None of the Celtics other big men are well suited to defending a perimeter shooter like Bonner but Green can completely neutralize Bonner. Plus, there is no hope in hell Bonner can cover Green on the other end.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 09:18:43 PM
Rondo ::) 

 ???   
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: aporel#18 on December 15, 2012, 09:18:49 PM
how can't they call the travel on Bonner? wow.

then ticky tacky all over the place... great officiating.

by the way, I love the Courtney Lee showcasing and all, but gimme some Barbosa, please.

Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: jdz101 on December 15, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
Why sub terry out there??
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:19:23 PM
need a BASS power dunk..that is how you get position....!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 09:20:00 PM
put Sullinger back in
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 09:20:08 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I find Bass wicked frustrating. If he's not hitting/taking his jumper, he's borderline useless.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:20:36 PM
Bonner is SCAL's EVIL twin..! Same corner....
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 09:20:47 PM
Spurs comentators dissing us 30Th in rebounding ....sick . :P

Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: GronkSpike on December 15, 2012, 09:21:02 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I find Bass wicked frustrating. If he's not hitting/taking his jumper, he's borderline useless.
I wicked agree with you.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: mr. dee on December 15, 2012, 09:21:37 PM
Why sub terry out there??
Doc pulling out hot players is one of the things that frustrates me.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 09:21:56 PM
Worthless defense and no rebounding . 
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 09:22:09 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I find Bass wicked frustrating. If he's not hitting/taking his jumper, he's borderline useless.

Exactly how I feel about Bass. I'm ok with him getting the pt for now so that we can showcase him for a good trade. Sullinger better be getting more minutes after the trading deadline
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 09:22:52 PM
im bout sick of Brandon Bass start Sully man he gave way better effort out there in his minutes
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: aporel#18 on December 15, 2012, 09:22:59 PM
where's the D?  >:(

I hate Bonner, he's kind of a reverse Scal who makes those shots again and again...

Please Celtics, can you show a little sense of urgency out there? Yeah, the RS means nothing, but come on...!

Go Celtics! Play D!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:23:00 PM
Why sub terry out there??
Doc pulling out hot players is one of the things that frustrates me.
He DOES do that...amongst 100 other things....
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:24:22 PM
doc is sorta like someone else we know....ruin the Celtics ECONOMY everytime it gets going....LOL....
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 09:24:45 PM
Pierce with the throwdown!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 15, 2012, 09:25:28 PM
Freaking lazy passes.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
Why sub terry out there??
Doc pulling out hot players is one of the things that frustrates me.
He DOES do that...amongst 100 other things....
I can't give u anymore tps 
This hour
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
parker....blocked two times...hahahahha...
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: aporel#18 on December 15, 2012, 09:26:40 PM
Can't wait for Playoff Celtics... hopefully they get there fully healthy.

The Spurs aren't slouches either. Oh reverse Scal, I hate you.

Go Celtics!!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 09:26:52 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I find Bass wicked frustrating. If he's not hitting/taking his jumper, he's borderline useless.

Exactly how I feel about Bass. I'm ok with him getting the pt for now so that we can showcase him for a good trade. Sullinger better be getting more minutes after the trading deadline

Atleast I'm not alone, lol
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:27:19 PM
Why sub terry out there??
Doc pulling out hot players is one of the things that frustrates me.
He DOES do that...amongst 100 other things....
I can't give u anymore tps 
This hour
yup i am out of karma too...! smoke signals..?
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 09:27:23 PM
rondo wit da turnover then didnt get back to parker left Wilcox in a tough position wit da Bonner 3
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Redz on December 15, 2012, 09:28:14 PM
Spurs uniforms are butt ugly.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:28:33 PM
Why is Sully on the bench?
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ayer on December 15, 2012, 09:28:54 PM
Both teams are too lazy for D!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:29:19 PM
see what happens whe n you cover the bonners of the world.....
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 09:29:28 PM
It's kinda weird hearing Scal comment on Bonner during the game
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 09:29:35 PM
where's the kick ball?!?!?
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:29:59 PM
barbosa time....?
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 09:30:22 PM
rondo wit a horrible pass on da break when Pierce was wide open on da wing thank goodness Terry nd Pierce are cookin so far
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 09:30:42 PM
Why is Sully on the bench?

Because he likes to REBOUND  ???
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:30:52 PM
where's the kick ball?!?!?
i know that was a major kick...soccer even...
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:31:14 PM
see what happens whe n you cover the bonners of the world.....

This is why I don't like zones or gimmick defenses.



By the way, Green has zero basketball IQ.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: mr. dee on December 15, 2012, 09:31:45 PM
Terry is blazing hot right now, i tell ya.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 09:31:58 PM
Spurs moving the ball well, but C's still with some facepalm defensive breakdowns.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:31:59 PM
Why is Sully on the bench?

Because he likes to REBOUND  ???
Uh oh..you are right....doc noticed...we were getting rebounds...uhm...doc...buddy...REBOUNDING...IS DEFENSE....!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 09:32:13 PM
Why is Sully on the bench?

Because he likes to REBOUND  ???

yea, none of that rebounding crap in here young man, take a seat on the bench!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 09:32:48 PM
Do you think if we got enough fans to stand outside the Garden with signs asking for Sully to start, it'd happen? Cuz I'm willing lol
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: GronkSpike on December 15, 2012, 09:32:51 PM
Why is Sully on the bench?

Because he likes to REBOUND  ???
Well, that's a rookie mistake. He didn't get the memo, you're not supposed to rebound on the Celtics.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:33:15 PM
see what happens whe n you cover the bonners of the world.....

This is why I don't like zones or gimmick de



By the way, Green has zero basketball IQ.
he is a little GREEN..?
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: jdz101 on December 15, 2012, 09:33:51 PM
I'm loving all these wide open layups for guards at the moment...

Just stellar
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:33:51 PM
Why is Sully on the bench?

Because he likes to REBOUND  ???


yea, none of that rebounding crap in here young man, take a seat on the bench!


Get down there on the spot marked Steamer!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:34:27 PM
Why is Sully on the bench?

Because he likes to REBOUND  ???
Well, that's a rookie mistake. He didn't get the memo, you're not supposed to rebound on the Celtics.
DOC...is the ONLY guy in the worlod who doesn't believe in REBOUNDING...!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 09:34:39 PM
Why is Sully on the bench?

Because he likes to REBOUND  ???
Uh oh..you are right....doc noticed...we were getting rebounds...uhm...doc...buddy...REBOUNDING...IS DEFENSE....!!!


can't give up our spot has last in the league in rebounding. ???

record as Celtics fan I thought I'd never see , no matter the win /loss record

ugg :'(
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: hpantazo on December 15, 2012, 09:34:56 PM
Why is Sully on the bench?

Because he likes to REBOUND  ???


yea, none of that rebounding crap in here young man, take a seat on the bench!


Get down there on the spot marked Steamer!!!

LOL, Steamer left a dent in that bench!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 09:35:06 PM
Why is Sully on the bench?
Because there was nobody (Duncan, Bonner) he was able to defend.

Good coaching by Doc.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: cltc5 on December 15, 2012, 09:35:27 PM
we have an offense?  Jet on fire!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:36:19 PM
I'm loving all these wide open layups for guards at the moment...

Just stellar

I really believe everyone, in the league, knows that when Doc goes small, just drive for layups or dunks.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:36:31 PM
even avery ...johnsons team rebounds....avery-whatever...brooklyn....you know his name...
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:37:25 PM
sully can cover bonner....
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 09:38:31 PM
sully can cover bonner....
I don't think Sully can defend out on the perimeter.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: albas89 on December 15, 2012, 09:39:57 PM
With Leonard, Jackson and now Ginobili out, this is a golden chance for the Celtics to win this game... they gotta take advantage! I'm sensing they won't though... :P
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Change on December 15, 2012, 09:40:53 PM
good to see JT find his shot again.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
bonner is no star....and has little athletic ability..he can just shoot well..if he is set.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 09:43:11 PM
sully can cover bonner....
I don't think Sully can defend out on the perimeter.
cant look any worse then Bass did in dat half tho at least Sully got boards
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 09:45:24 PM
sully can cover bonner....
I don't think Sully can defend out on the perimeter.
cant look any worse then Bass did in dat half tho at least Sully got boards
That is why Doc took Bass out. Went small for the final 6 and a half minutes.

It gave the team it's best defensive, offensive and overall lineup against the Spurs lineup with Bonner out there. It pulled the lead back from 38-31 to 52-49.

Good coaching.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 09:46:47 PM
I'd put Sully on Bonner. He can atleast rebound and all he has to do on defense is run off the line. It beats having Bass out there.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:48:58 PM
sully can cover bonner....
I don't think Sully can defend out on the perimeter.
cant look any worse then Bass did in dat half tho at least Sully got boards
That is why Doc took Bass out. Went small for the final 6 and a half minutes.

It gave the team it's best defensive, offensive and overall lineup against the Spurs lineup with Bonner out there. It pulled the lead back from 38-31 to 52-49.

Good coaching.

Doc literally goes small every game for 6 minute stretches. We usually lose when he does.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:53:18 PM
Come on Bass!!!  Put a body on him.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:53:50 PM
Oh Bass :'(
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: albas89 on December 15, 2012, 09:54:22 PM
Tiago Splitter, the Celtics killer... :-X
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: lon3lytoaster on December 15, 2012, 09:54:45 PM
Is it just me or is Bass looking worse and worse?

Where's Sullinger? I hate when Doc doesn't play the guy playing better.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 15, 2012, 09:54:58 PM
Ah, the Bradley style cut. Let's see more of that.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 09:55:05 PM
Lee with the Bradley cut.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:55:05 PM
what you see out of Splitter is what popovich would get out of fab melo.....doc....will get a D league guy..who never plays in the NBA...!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 09:55:17 PM
Nice pass by Rondo, and nice Bradley like cut by Lee.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 15, 2012, 09:55:23 PM
No wonder Rondo passes on open layups, he can't make them.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 09:56:13 PM
How does Neal get that open?  One pass and a wide open three.  Unacceptable.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 09:56:19 PM
we miss 2 layups in a row nd they counter wit 2 made 3 pointers smh
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 09:56:51 PM
Man the Spurs can light it up
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: blink on December 15, 2012, 09:57:29 PM
man our D rotations just suck.  do we ever practice rotating?  it seems like either we are leaving someone open in the lane, or they are draining 3's.  what is the deal?
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: jdz101 on December 15, 2012, 09:58:18 PM
These no-calls on our end are just the icing on a crappy cake at the moment.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 15, 2012, 09:58:43 PM
DOES doc hold practices.....this year...he hasn't in the past...!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: lon3lytoaster on December 15, 2012, 10:00:13 PM
Jeeeeeeeeez.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: blink on December 15, 2012, 10:00:17 PM
well then the guys need to hold their own Def practices.  because they don't seem to know where they need to be.  Bass has been lost on 3 of the last few possessions.  As a player, you gotta take it on yourself to learn what you need to be doing, and then put out the effort.

I know the spurs are good too....
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:00:28 PM
Good late help by Danny Green on that KG up and under. Lovely move by KG.

Follows it up with a triple. Spurs up 11. Dangerous time for Boston.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 10:00:45 PM
Starting to get out of hand.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 10:00:52 PM
Bass 14 minutes 0 points 2 rebounds

Sully 9 minutes 2 points 6 rebounds
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:01:59 PM
Boris Diaw should post up Jeff Green. There is no way Green can cover Diaw on the block.

I would like to see some Sully here.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 10:02:14 PM
Bass 14 minutes 0 points 2 rebounds

Sully 9 minutes 2 points 6 rebounds

tp
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 10:02:14 PM
Oh good, Doc puts Green (sf) in for Bass.


Sorry Sully!!! You are a rookie that rebounds.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: lon3lytoaster on December 15, 2012, 10:02:16 PM
Bass 14 minutes 0 points 2 rebounds

Sully 9 minutes 2 points 6 rebounds

That's what I'm saying..
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: aporel#18 on December 15, 2012, 10:02:33 PM
what you see out of Splitter is what popovich would get out of fab melo.....doc....will get a D league guy..who never plays in the NBA...!

no way... Melo hasn't played organized basketball until he was like 17, at the same age and Thiago was playing for Caja Laboral, a top Euroleague team... I bet Fab can be better than Thiago, who was MVP of the ACB Spanish League before coming to the NBA.

But I understand your frustration on Doc's rookie management... more Sully please!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: JerseyKid. on December 15, 2012, 10:03:01 PM
Why does it seem that every single team has 3 point shooting contests against us?

Between these announcers and our bad play, this is getting unwatchable.

Bass and green are also starting to p--- me off, i didnt expect much from them but they are disappointing me.

Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:03:33 PM
Gary Neal has 17 points
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: jdz101 on December 15, 2012, 10:04:44 PM
Someone needs to go out there and physically pull Brandon bass off the court. Caught ball watching on splitter soooo many times.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: lon3lytoaster on December 15, 2012, 10:04:51 PM
Doc come on.. Wilcox over Sullinger? Green at the 4? Come on.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 10:05:31 PM
Why does it seem that every single team has 3 point shooting contests against us?


When you offensive rebound, you find the defense collapsed and the three point shooters are wide open.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: mr. dee on December 15, 2012, 10:06:15 PM
Just when KG is starting to hit his shots, Docs bench him.. smh
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
PP really making some nice passes tonight.  Good game from him despite some early turnovers.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:06:43 PM
That Duncan + Splitter combo has caused a lot of problems.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 10:08:31 PM
Green has been really good with those corner threes.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 10:08:37 PM
back to back horrible foul calls refs stoppin our momentum
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:09:33 PM
Good interception by De Colo. Saved a dunk and then Duncan scores on the other end. Four point swing. A potential five point game pushed to 9.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:10:06 PM
I'd like to see Doc bring in Sully here for Green. I don't think this small lineup is working.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 10:10:46 PM
back to back horrible foul calls refs stoppin our momentum

The refs didn't even see Parker get hit in the face by Rondo.  They called the foul based simply on Parker's reaction.  Can't call that kinda crap.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: cltc5 on December 15, 2012, 10:10:56 PM
we're playing well, Spurs are just a machine
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: albas89 on December 15, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
Spurs are just hitting every shot they're throwing at the basket!!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: mr. dee on December 15, 2012, 10:11:20 PM
I'd like to see Doc bring in Sully here for Green. I don't think this small lineup is working.
Don't even bother. He is too stubborn to do that.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Galeto on December 15, 2012, 10:11:49 PM
The Celtics' offense is the antithesis of the Spurs'.  The Spurs move the ball, anyone brings up the ball, they get quickly into the sets, the ball doesn't stick.  They play organized random offense.  The Celtics are slow and repetitive and grinding.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: blink on December 15, 2012, 10:12:11 PM
we have to get back to playing good d WITHOUT fouling.
The spurs aren't having the best game tonight, we are really throwing away a nice chance to steal one tonight.  some nights the celtics are just so frustrating to watch.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: The Rondo Show on December 15, 2012, 10:12:34 PM
For some reason this game has been more irritating than any other game this season for me
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: blink on December 15, 2012, 10:13:36 PM
The Celtics' offense is the antithesis of the Spurs'.  The Spurs move the ball, anyone brings up the ball, they get quickly into the sets, the ball doesn't stick.  They play organized random offense.  The Celtics are slow and repetitive and grinding.

i agree 100%.  our ball movement has been bad tonight.  we waste too much time getting moving.  I wish we could have the ball movement we had when Rondo was suspended, but have Rondo on the court at the same time.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:13:39 PM
Aggressive driving layup from Rondo. I like it.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: cltc5 on December 15, 2012, 10:13:53 PM
facepalm rondo :-[
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:14:12 PM
Gah, take the darn layup Rondo! Don't force that pass.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 10:14:21 PM
Spurs are a true team.  Duncan 2-11, no Ginobili, Jackson, or Leonard.  They find ways to make the game simple.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 10:14:34 PM
wat da hell is rondo doin wit some of these passes???!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:14:42 PM
I think this is a bad substitute by Popovich. Bringing Bonner back in here.

I think this will help Boston. Doc should stay small.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:15:31 PM
Spurs are a true team.  Duncan 2-11, no Ginobili, Jackson, or Leonard.  They find ways to make the game simple.
The firepower San Antonio has offensively is very impressive.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Galeto on December 15, 2012, 10:16:03 PM
Rondo is the worst fastbreak point guard in the league. It's not even close how many transition turnovers he makes.  The worse is that he rarely passes the ball ahead.

Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: cltc5 on December 15, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
sign Popovish for next C's coach
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 10:16:27 PM
everytime we bout to get close nd cut into da lead a stupid turnover happens smh
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: blink on December 15, 2012, 10:16:39 PM
I am going to pull my hair out tonight.  Why can't we cut to the basket like that?  Are all our players 100 years old?

Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 10:17:12 PM
Well the 3rd was turrrrrrrrible.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:17:20 PM
De Colo is a smart player. Reads the game very well. I like him.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: cltc5 on December 15, 2012, 10:17:52 PM
well we gotta chance.  Lets see if we used up all our energy chasing the spurs down in the 3rd.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: blink on December 15, 2012, 10:18:26 PM
KG, Bass, Wilcox - combined 5 rebounds.
smh
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 10:19:04 PM
De Colo is a smart player. Reads the game very well. I like him.

Spurs just have a knack for picking up skilled, high IQ players.  Gotta hand it to them.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Galeto on December 15, 2012, 10:19:35 PM
People always talk about guys running with Rondo, forgetting that he never passes the ball up ahead so it's moot most of the time but how about Rondo running with his teammates without the ball?  Why can't he use his speed to bust it on the wing and be a threat there from time to time?  He doesn't always have to control the middle of the floor.  The passing angles from the side on a fastbreak are actually even better.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 10:20:57 PM
its pretty crazy sully hasn't been back in
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:21:52 PM
I like Barbosa getting a run. Maybe he can give the team a scoring boost here.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: albas89 on December 15, 2012, 10:23:16 PM
its pretty crazy sully hasn't been back in
I'm surprised Doc didn't send him straight to the locker room after grabbing 6 rebounds in 9 mins... that was unacceptable and put our fantastic team D in great danger... :P
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 10:23:24 PM
Man KG is TIRED.  He needs a rest.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: The Rondo Show on December 15, 2012, 10:24:14 PM
Rondo is the worst fastbreak point guard in the league. It's not even close how many transition turnovers he makes.  The worse is that he rarely passes the ball ahead.

lol what
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:24:55 PM
Kyrie Irving just dropped 41 points on the Knicks. Still lost by one though (without Melo).
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:27:07 PM
Second impressive drive-by by Jeff Green against Diaw.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:27:50 PM
Nice jump shot by Bass over Duncan. Hopefully that will get him going.

Great job keeping that offensive rebound on the next possession. Wide open three point attempt for Terry because of it. Missed shot though.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 10:28:31 PM
6'6 Bass is the center guarding Duncan. :'(
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Change on December 15, 2012, 10:28:56 PM
Spurs are ridiculous right now
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: cltc5 on December 15, 2012, 10:29:28 PM
game!  our quickest unit is dead :-\
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 10:29:39 PM
*sigh*
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 10:29:43 PM
Is Sully hurt? I just don't get it. ???
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 10:29:52 PM
i remember da days when we used to shoot 52% from da field nd win our games
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 10:29:58 PM
JET with two crucial defensive mistakes, each leading to Spurs 3's. 
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:30:37 PM
Two big baskets by Tony Parker.

The Celtics were inching closer. Another basket there and things really would have tightened up. Tony Parker follows up with 5 quick points to put them back up 11. That wide-open missed Terry three would have cut the lead to 3 points. Make or miss league.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Refs making some really poor calls on the Spurs right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 10:32:55 PM
Nice play. I wish KG or someone (Sully???) woyuld bang all night.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: cltc5 on December 15, 2012, 10:33:26 PM
AWFUL! >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:33:43 PM
Nice job hitting the offensive glass by Rondo and C-Lee.

Just couldn't get any of those shots to fall. They are getting good looks.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:34:48 PM
PG: Rondo
SG: Terry
SF: C-Lee
PF: Pierce
C:  Garnett

Very small lineup on the floor right now. Lots of shooters and ball-handlers.

Edit: Nevermind, Jeff Green back in for Lee.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 10:36:54 PM
JET with yet another late rotation and another Spurs 3.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: cltc5 on December 15, 2012, 10:37:05 PM
spurs just said kiss my butt celtics lol
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: get_banners on December 15, 2012, 10:37:06 PM
some nights, the other team can just throw anything in. the spurs are good...but this is insane.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:37:12 PM
Oh my god, wow, what a circus shot reverse layup by Tony Parker. He has been absolutely huge for San Antonio over the last couple of minutes.

Icing this game for the Spurs.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: jbaerg on December 15, 2012, 10:37:31 PM
blow it up.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 10:38:24 PM
When you go small and don't have a shot blocker, driving becomes too easy.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: aporel#18 on December 15, 2012, 10:38:43 PM
Ok, we aren't on the Spurs level yet. But we'll get there, and that'll be when it counts, in the playoffs.

Good Job, Good Effort.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 10:38:47 PM
yep after dat tony parker circus shot dis ones ova spurs announcers makin dis game even harder to watch
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on December 15, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
Can't make shots. Offensive execution is solid, just couldn't knock some down.

But really, not shot blocking presence at all. None.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 10:39:37 PM
Okay, that Pierce turnover ... that will do it. Game over.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: The Rondo Show on December 15, 2012, 10:39:51 PM
yep after dat tony parker circus shot dis ones ova spurs announcers makin dis game even harder to watch

ANnouncers are BRUTAL
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: aporel#18 on December 15, 2012, 10:40:10 PM
yep after dat tony parker circus shot dis ones ova spurs announcers makin dis game even harder to watch

TP. Really hard... and they call Tommy a homer  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: blink on December 15, 2012, 10:40:58 PM
Ok, we aren't on the Spurs level yet. But we'll get there, and that'll be when it counts, in the playoffs.

Good Job, Good Effort.

I hope that was sarcasm. 
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: jbaerg on December 15, 2012, 10:41:10 PM
fans should be brutal after that total meltdown. absolutely poor performance.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: ScottHow on December 15, 2012, 10:41:58 PM
i see sully!!!!!!!!!! ****
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: cltc5 on December 15, 2012, 10:42:40 PM
if we play this hard most nights we'll win alot of games.  Sadly we cant and wont.

Hats off to the spurs.  they were just that good,  Fun to watch.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 15, 2012, 10:44:26 PM
yep after dat tony parker circus shot dis ones ova spurs announcers makin dis game even harder to watch

TP. Really hard... and they call Tommy a homer  ::)
Sean Elliot is da worst dont get me started on da overzellous guy who screams ova every minor thing smh
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 10:44:33 PM
Outcoached.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: blink on December 15, 2012, 10:45:57 PM
This game shows that we aren't even in the discussion as a contender.  Spurs were tired, not playing their best for about 3/4 of the game.  We played horrible D and really let the spurs catch fire at the end of the game.  We were lazy on O, not getting to the rim enough, settling for way too many jump shots.  When they stopped falling, and parker caught fire we were cooked.

This was a really winnable game.  I guess on the 2nd night of a back to back we have that built in excuse.  But we are really what our record says we are right now.  Barely a playoff team.  I am really tired of watching our D.  I can't wait until it gets better.



Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: get_banners on December 15, 2012, 10:47:00 PM
offensive execution was pretty good. we missed some shots we should hit, but it wasn't bad by any means. the defense was a little slow on rotations, and the spurs tonight were able to hit seemingly everything, especially beyond the arc. most nights, we'll win a game like this.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: JerseyKid. on December 15, 2012, 10:47:07 PM
This game shows that we aren't even in the discussion as a contender.  Spurs were tired, not playing their best for about 3/4 of the game.  We played horrible D and really let the spurs catch fire at the end of the game.  We were lazy on O, not getting to the rim enough, settling for way too many jump shots.  When they stopped falling, and parker caught fire we were cooked.

This was a really winnable game.  I guess on the 2nd night of a back to back we have that built in excuse.  But we are really what our record says we are right now.  Barely a playoff team.  I am really tired of watching our D.  I can't wait until it gets better.

Thanks for saying this because i was thinking it, but wasn't going to type it out. TP for you.

Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 10:49:20 PM
smallball ???  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Chief on December 15, 2012, 10:51:18 PM
Doc is determined to play small and be the worst rebounding team in the league. Looks like Sully got punished for crashing the boards tonight.


Danny save this team. Please trade Bass, Lee, and a first rounder for a 7 footer.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Galeto on December 15, 2012, 10:55:25 PM
When is Doc going to get some criticism for how much the Celtics are underperforming?  Maybe they're not contenders, absolutely they're not contenders right now but they should be better than skimming .500.  I don't think he's made any adjustments in three or four years.  The offensive sets are exactly the same and he can't rein in Rondo to actually move the ball ahead and around.  He always moans about a lack of ball movement.  Well, he's the coach, can't he figure it out and demand it of Rondo? 

How he uses Terry epitomizes how little coaching he does and how much Rondo will not adjust to a new teammate.  The guy slotted him directly into Ray Allen's plays.  It's absurd.  Instead of letting Terry handle the ball more and basically do what he's done for most of his career within the framework of great teams, he just replaced an outgoing Ray exactly.  The bottom third ranked offense Terry was coming into needed no altering at all.  Total sense.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 11:00:51 PM
Celtic basketball is headed on a fast train to NO WHERE...

No BIG's ... NO CHAMPIONSHIP hopes.

Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Galeto on December 15, 2012, 11:01:20 PM
I just hate Doc's substitution patterns with KG.  If the Celtics had competent defensive bigs behind him, sure, play KG for comically short stints but yanking KG 4.5 minutes into a quarter while the other teams' starters are out doesn't work on paper and hasn't worked on the court.  The Celtics stand a much better chance of surviving without KG if the backup bigs are going up against, you know, backup bigs.  The starting lineup is diluted.

It's been two years of Doc trying to copy Carlisle's rest pattern with Dirk and doing a terrible job of it.  I'm convinced the Celtics would have been a much better regular season team last year and so far this year if Doc just left KG alone. 
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: European NBA fan on December 15, 2012, 11:03:36 PM
Doc is determined to play small and be the worst rebounding team in the league. Looks like Sully got punished for crashing the boards tonight.


Danny save this team. Please trade Bass, Lee, and a first rounder for a 7 footer.

We are not the worst rebounding team in the league. We get fewer rebounds in total, but we are fourth when it comes to defensive rebounds percentage according to basketball-reference.com. This is not really the problem.
The 7 footer we need is for rim protection, since we allow a lot of points in the paint - 25th in the league according to Teamrankings.com - and it's not mainly fastbreak points (13th in the league).
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2012, 11:10:11 PM
Well , since we suck and have NO CENTER , no paint presence, maybe DA will grow a pair and make DOC bring FAB back and AT LEAST train him on the NBA court and play next to KG and learn.  So in a few YEARS we can have at least ONE CENTER on a NBA team. 

BTW ..COLLINS is totally worthless.


 
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 11:11:22 PM
Doc is determined to play small and be the worst rebounding team in the league. Looks like Sully got punished for crashing the boards tonight.


Danny save this team. Please trade Bass, Lee, and a first rounder for a 7 footer.

We are not the worst rebounding team in the league. We get fewer rebounds in total, but we are fourth when it comes to defensive rebounds percentage according to basketball-reference.com. This is not really the problem.
The 7 footer we need is for rim protection, since we allow a lot of points in the paint - 25th in the league according to Teamrankings.com - and it's not mainly fastbreak points (13th in the league).

TP.  We've actually been rebounding fairly well since Doc called the team soft. 

Our defense allowing too many easy scores - transition buckets, paint points, and wide open 3 pointers - is the problem.  We always seem half a step slow on rotations.  I'm confident that when (I would say "if", but I'm trying to be optimistic) our defense improves, we'll be winning a lot of games.  We've always been at our best when we get multiple consecutive stops throughout the course of the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Who on December 15, 2012, 11:13:46 PM
Doc is determined to play small and be the worst rebounding team in the league. Looks like Sully got punished for crashing the boards tonight.


Danny save this team. Please trade Bass, Lee, and a first rounder for a 7 footer.

We are not the worst rebounding team in the league. We get fewer rebounds in total, but we are fourth when it comes to defensive rebounds percentage according to basketball-reference.com. This is not really the problem.
The 7 footer we need is for rim protection, since we allow a lot of points in the paint - 25th in the league according to Teamrankings.com - and it's not mainly fastbreak points (13th in the league).

TP.  We've actually been rebounding fairly well since Doc called the team soft. 

Our defense allowing too many easy scores - transition buckets, paint points, and wide open 3 pointers - is the problem.  We always seem half a step slow on rotations.  I'm confident that when (I would say "if", but I'm trying to be optimistic) our defense improves, we'll be winning a lot of games.  We've always been at our best when we get multiple consecutive stops throughout the course of the game.

The Celtics are now 2nd worst in the league in rebounding differential per game and are dead last in rebounding percentage differential.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 15, 2012, 11:20:29 PM
Doc is determined to play small and be the worst rebounding team in the league. Looks like Sully got punished for crashing the boards tonight.


Danny save this team. Please trade Bass, Lee, and a first rounder for a 7 footer.

We are not the worst rebounding team in the league. We get fewer rebounds in total, but we are fourth when it comes to defensive rebounds percentage according to basketball-reference.com. This is not really the problem.
The 7 footer we need is for rim protection, since we allow a lot of points in the paint - 25th in the league according to Teamrankings.com - and it's not mainly fastbreak points (13th in the league).

TP.  We've actually been rebounding fairly well since Doc called the team soft. 

Our defense allowing too many easy scores - transition buckets, paint points, and wide open 3 pointers - is the problem.  We always seem half a step slow on rotations.  I'm confident that when (I would say "if", but I'm trying to be optimistic) our defense improves, we'll be winning a lot of games.  We've always been at our best when we get multiple consecutive stops throughout the course of the game.

The Celtics are now 2nd worst in the league in rebounding differential per game and are dead last in rebounding percentage differential.

It's deceiving because we completely ignore the offensive boards.  This seems to actually hurt us because it's not like we're playing good transition defense even when we send all 5 guys back.  It's been happening all season and it needs to be fixed.

We're clearly not a good rebounding team, but if we're closing out the defensive rebounds, I'm happy.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Change on December 15, 2012, 11:38:23 PM
Avery coming back, and addition of a shot blocker to the rotation (Melo Maybe) will right the ship.

Whatever the heck happen to ball movement? We're seeing a lot of iso ball, or the ball sticking to Rondo. Guys can't get comfortable when they rarely touch the ball. Another point is it makes defense job easier just load up on one side with the ball; something Celtics were historically great at. Hence, teams move the ball against the Celtics getting C's defense off-balance.

Ball movement killing C's on one end, and is being underutilized on the other end.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: slamtheking on December 15, 2012, 11:41:15 PM

It's deceiving because we completely ignore the offensive boards.  This seems to actually hurt us because it's not like we're playing good transition defense even when we send all 5 guys back.  It's been happening all season and it needs to be fixed.

I think this hits the nail on the head.  in previous years, not crashing the O boards was frustrating but the D would be set and there'd be no fastbreak buckets by the other team.  This year is completely different in that regard.  The team seems to go for more O boards but when it doesn't so they can get back on D, they still get burned on fastbreak buckets
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Change on December 15, 2012, 11:45:43 PM
When is Doc going to get some criticism for how much the Celtics are underperforming?  Maybe they're not contenders, absolutely they're not contenders right now but they should be better than skimming .500.  I don't think he's made any adjustments in three or four years.  The offensive sets are exactly the same and he can't rein in Rondo to actually move the ball ahead and around.  He always moans about a lack of ball movement.  Well, he's the coach, can't he figure it out and demand it of Rondo? 

How he uses Terry epitomizes how little coaching he does and how much Rondo will not adjust to a new teammate.  The guy slotted him directly into Ray Allen's plays.  It's absurd.  Instead of letting Terry handle the ball more and basically do what he's done for most of his career within the framework of great teams, he just replaced an outgoing Ray exactly.  The bottom third ranked offense Terry was coming into needed no altering at all.  Total sense.

you nailed it. TP
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on December 15, 2012, 11:52:40 PM
Can somebody explain to me why sully played 11 mins tonight? And yet he still lead the team in rebounds, pathetic.
Title: Re: Celtics (12-10) at Spurs (18-6) 12/15
Post by: get_banners on December 16, 2012, 12:13:44 AM
the lack of whistles didn't help tonight at all. we did attack the rim, got hit hard, but got called for very few fouls. that doesn't excuse some of the rotation issues on defense, but it didn't help any. also...FTs let you set your defense, too. not surprised doc was pretty angry about the FT story. it was an issue, and not because we didn't attack.