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Beyond the Association => College Basketball => Topic started by: Rondo2287 on December 13, 2012, 08:49:55 AM
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Report out there that this is the end of the big east and the conference will dissolve today.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8742607/seven-catholic-schools-leaning-leaving-big-east-sources-say
Would hate to be a athlete down in Storrs today.
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Report out there that this is the end of the big east and the conference will desolve today.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8742607/seven-catholic-schools-leaning-leaving-big-east-sources-say
Would hate to be a athlete down in Storrs today.
Makes sense, Big East has always been about Basketball and football has take over the realignment for all the other schools in the conference for years now.
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Report out there that this is the end of the big east and the conference will desolve today.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8742607/seven-catholic-schools-leaning-leaving-big-east-sources-say
Would hate to be a athlete down in Storrs today.
Makes sense, Big East has always been about Basketball and football has take over the realignment for all the other schools in the conference for years now.
Yup, just crazy to think it could come to this. I always trolled the uconn blog saying this would happen, but I didn't think it would
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Report out there that this is the end of the big east and the conference will desolve today.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8742607/seven-catholic-schools-leaning-leaving-big-east-sources-say
Would hate to be a athlete down in Storrs today.
Makes sense, Big East has always been about Basketball and football has take over the realignment for all the other schools in the conference for years now.
Yup, just crazy to think it could come to this. I always trolled the uconn blog saying this would happen, but I didn't think it would
When the three non-catholic FBS schools that are left with voting rights in the league all just literally begged the ACC to take them in, what did they think would happen?
Similar to when Texas was flirting with the SEC/Pac-10 so hard so NE/MO/AM all left. Once you start flirting with a girl and begging her to call you what do you expect....
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Report out there that this is the end of the big east and the conference will desolve today.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8742607/seven-catholic-schools-leaning-leaving-big-east-sources-say
Would hate to be a athlete down in Storrs today.
Makes sense, Big East has always been about Basketball and football has take over the realignment for all the other schools in the conference for years now.
Yup, just crazy to think it could come to this. I always trolled the uconn blog saying this would happen, but I didn't think it would
LOL, nice admit there
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Report out there that this is the end of the big east and the conference will desolve today.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8742607/seven-catholic-schools-leaning-leaving-big-east-sources-say
Would hate to be a athlete down in Storrs today.
Makes sense, Big East has always been about Basketball and football has take over the realignment for all the other schools in the conference for years now.
Yup, just crazy to think it could come to this. I always trolled the uconn blog saying this would happen, but I didn't think it would
LOL, nice admit there
Been banned from there like 5 times haha
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Long time overdue in my opinion. Schools that can't afford football and baseball teams have no business in the same conference as UConn.
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I just feel bad for my alma mater, Cincinnati. Out in the cold with no where to go. I do wonder if all of the schools that were going to join still will or if some back out.
This conference would still be pretty good in football
Cincinnati (full)
Connecticut (full)
South Florida (full)
Temple (full)
Central Florida (full)
Houston (full)
Southern Methodist (full)
Memphis (full)
Boise State
San Diego St.
Tulane (full)
East Carolina
Navy
That is 13 teams with 9 full members, so one more full member would make sense. Probably one of the CUSA schools, UAB, Southern Miss, Tulsa. Possibly a school like UMass, La Tech, or Western Kentucky. I don't think the need for 1 more full member really changes if Boise and San Diego decide to back out, but if a bunch of teams decide to not come then the conference is probably done and Cincinnati and UConn will go hard after an ACC invite.
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I’m going to miss Big East basketball.
I’m strictly a basketball guy, so I hate this conference realignment stuff, but mainly just because it messed up the Big East. And I hate how teams were jumping ship to go to the ACC.
I loved Big East basketball, I loved how deep they were, I loved the style of play (though that was probably more in my mind). Putting so many teams in the tournament, different teams a threat to win the conference and the national tourney every year.
The Big East was tough, gritty, and hardcore like 90’s New York hip hop. The Big East was Wu-Tang, Nas, Mobb Deep, Public Enemy, while the Pac 10 was the West Coast rappers like: Dre, Cube, Snoop, and then the ACC was the more mainstream hip hop, acts like Puffy, LL Cool J, Timbaland, Mase, Coolio. Sure a lot of it’s preference, but I know which one I prefer, hands down. Now with so many schools jumping ship (especially to the ACC), it’s like when my favorite hip hop acts sell out and go mainstream.
Or instead of hip hop I can compare it to the NBA. The ACC was where Kobe and LeBron would be playing, while the Big East would be the 2008-present Celtics, the Pistons from the 2000’s, the Iverson Sixers team that went to the Finals. There were beasts like Kendrick Perkins and Ron Artest patrolling the Big East courts, along with underdogs with no fear like an Iverson. The ACC had the Lakers/Dukes and Miami/UNC’s that were always hyped beyond belief, even though the Big East heavyweights could always hold their own with them. Phil Jackson coaches in the ACC, guys like Larry Brown, Doug Collins, Jeff Van Gundy coach in the Big East.
The Saturday night Big East championship in NYC, in Madison Square Garden, had such a special feel to it, like a hyped up, heavyweight boxing match that delivers an awesome fight. While those ACC, Pac 10, Big 12 championships on Sunday afternoon felt so blah, like Sunday afternoon baseball.
I look at a team like Boston College, the best they ever did in the ACC was when they first arrived, fresh out the Big East. To me, that’s because they were still playing that Big East style of ball. They weren’t scared of Duke or UNC. It wasn’t long before they lost that Big East toughness though, and haven’t been the same since. You took them out the jungle and they forgot how to survive in the wild.
Though I like the idea of those 7 Catholic schools forming their own league. It just won’t be the same without Syracuse, and Pitt, and UConn, and Louisville, etc. They’ll probably retain that Big East style that I like so much, just on a much smaller scale. Back to my hip-hop analogy: it’ll be like when someone big in the 90’s (Nas, Wu-Tang, etc.) releases an album now, even though I still love it, and it’s still getting critical acclaim, it’s just not making the same dent in the music landscape as it did in the past. Like Cuban Linx or Illmatic compared to Cuban Linx II or Nas’s Untitled album. Ya they’re all praised by critics, but those later albums will never be considered classics like those earlier ones, partly because the music landscape has changed so much. Just like the college athletics landscape.
I’m going to miss the Big East. :'(
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It's a shame but not terribly surprising. I think when it's all said and done we'll wind up with 4 major conferences - the Big 12 will be next whenever Texas finally decides to bail.
It's too bad because I don't give a crap about college football and it's what's driving this move at the expense of one of the greatest college basketball environments of all time. It'll be fun seeing my beloved Orange make its way in the ACC, but it'll never be the same as the old days.
RIP Big East...now go read BDM's post because he said it a lot better than I could.
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As I St John's fan, I have always been loyal to the Big East. I have hated BC since their departure. More so, I have hated the football money grab since it exposes college sports for what it is -- a money making machine, where only the schools, coaches, and TV networks are allowed to make ridiculous money while players risk their health for benefits that are way below market value.
As sad as I am to see the league go, this would at least give some stability to the basketball teams while the joke that is college football continues. College football really is an embarrassment among sports leagues with conference shifting and with the joke of a championship. Hopefully a playoff will fix the latter. Fortunately for college football, you can still make boatloads if you have loyal fans and degenerate gamblers.
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It's a shame but not terribly surprising. I think when it's all said and done we'll wind up with 4 major conferences - the Big 12 will be next whenever Texas finally decides to bail.
It's too bad because I don't give a crap about college football and it's what's driving this move at the expense of one of the greatest college basketball environments of all time. It'll be fun seeing my beloved Orange make its way in the ACC, but it'll never be the same as the old days.
RIP Big East...now go read BDM's post because he said it a lot better than I could.
Big 12 might actually be more viable than the ACC as a conference capable of forming a 16 team super conference. It is playing far more relevant football and unlike the ACC its two powers have not disappeared in the last decade. That said I think they both get raided and the remnants will come together to form a much weaker 16 team conference than the other three.
If they really do go to 16 team super conferences, I think UNC and Ga Tech will go to the Big Ten, the Pac 12 will add Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma St., the SEC will add some combination of these teams West Virginia, Pittsburgh, NC St., Kansas, or TCU (WV the most likely), and the remnants of the Big 12 and ACC will combine.
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Football and non-football schools don't belong together.
Makes sense for the Catholics to stand together. If they started a league, I wonder if they could steal Holy Cross from Patriot and get them to bring back HC hoops.
Just have to say "HaHa" to the UCONN. Added a football program, tried to bail on Big East, and now they are homeless.
I REALLY hope the ACC doesn't over expand... they are solid right now, with decent southern presence and some NE media anchors. Don't over due it. Adding schools is a non-innovative way to improve the conf.
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would be interesting to see if they combine with some Atlantic 10 basketball schools like URI, St Joe's, Xavier, Umass, St Louis. Pretty good 12-team conference right there.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/bigeast/2012/12/13/big-east-conference-basketball-split-catholic-member-schools/1767387/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/bigeast/2012/12/13/big-east-conference-basketball-split-catholic-member-schools/1767387/)
It's apparently official. They just have to work out the details, but the 7 non-football schools are gone.
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Peace out, Big East.
In your heyday, you were one heckuva basketball conference.
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would be interesting to see if they combine with some Atlantic 10 basketball schools like URI, St Joe's, Xavier, Umass, St Louis. Pretty good 12-team conference right there.
That would be a very good basketball conference, and should retain the Big East name and brand. As an added benefit, here'd be two great rivalries based on location: Nova/St. Joes and URI/PC,
The following could be call the Not East:
Cincinnati (full)
Connecticut (full)
South Florida (full)
Temple (full)
Central Florida (full)
Houston (full)
Southern Methodist (full)
Memphis (full)
Boise State
San Diego St.
Tulane (full)
East Carolina
Navy
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Cinci and Uconn are apparently threatening to form their own conference with other disenfranchised big east teams and Mountain West teams
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Cinci and Uconn are apparently threatening to form their own conference with other disenfranchised big east teams and Mountain West teams
They can have fun with that.
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Cinci and Uconn are apparently threatening to form their own conference with other disenfranchised big east teams and Mountain West teams
They can have fun with that.
Proposed conference name, "The Island of Misfit Schools"
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So this is the 7
St. Johns (NYC)
Seton Hall (North Jersey)
Villanova (Philly)
Georgetown (D.C.)
Depaul (Chicago)
Marquette (Milwaukee)
Providence (R.I.)
It seems pretty clear they are going to go after Xavier (Cincinnati). So the question is how many more do they try to add. I think they should go to 12 for optimum value. Given the markets those 8 have, I think they will go after Butler (Indianapolis), Charlotte, Creighton (IA), and St. Louis.
So they could do an East and West
West - Marquette, Depaul, St. Louis, Xavier, Butler, Creighton
East - Charlotte, Georgetown, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Villanova, Providence
Clearly they could target some other schools instead of St. Louis and Creighton so they could compact a bit more schools such as Dayton, Richmond, Virginia Commonwealth would all make sense. UMass might as well but they just added a FBS football school so that might cause problems.
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So this is the 7
St. Johns (NYC)
Seton Hall (North Jersey)
Villanova (Philly)
Georgetown (D.C.)
Depaul (Chicago)
Marquette (Milwaukee)
Providence (R.I.)
It seems pretty clear they are going to go after Xavier (Cincinnati). So the question is how many more do they try to add. I think they should go to 12 for optimum value. Given the markets those 8 have, I think they will go after Butler (Indianapolis), Charlotte, Creighton (IA), and St. Louis.
So they could do an East and West
West - Marquette, Depaul, St. Louis, Xavier, Butler, Creighton
East - Charlotte, Georgetown, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Villanova, Providence
Clearly they could target some other schools instead of St. Louis and Creighton so they could compact a bit more schools such as Dayton, Richmond, Virginia Commonwealth would all make sense. UMass might as well but they just added a FBS football school so that might cause problems.
Besides Xavier, I think adding St. Joseph's, La Salle, Duquense and St. Bonaventura make the most sense and have the conference called the Catholic Conference.
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So this is the 7
St. Johns (NYC)
Seton Hall (North Jersey)
Villanova (Philly)
Georgetown (D.C.)
Depaul (Chicago)
Marquette (Milwaukee)
Providence (R.I.)
It seems pretty clear they are going to go after Xavier (Cincinnati). So the question is how many more do they try to add. I think they should go to 12 for optimum value. Given the markets those 8 have, I think they will go after Butler (Indianapolis), Charlotte, Creighton (IA), and St. Louis.
So they could do an East and West
West - Marquette, Depaul, St. Louis, Xavier, Butler, Creighton
East - Charlotte, Georgetown, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Villanova, Providence
Clearly they could target some other schools instead of St. Louis and Creighton so they could compact a bit more schools such as Dayton, Richmond, Virginia Commonwealth would all make sense. UMass might as well but they just added a FBS football school so that might cause problems.
Besides Xavier, I think adding St. Joseph's, La Salle, Duquense and St. Bonaventura make the most sense and have the conference called the Catholic Conference.
I just can't see them adding a bunch of schools in Philadelphia. Adds nothing to the conference from a financial standpoint. They might just add 1 team aside from Xavier and that one team may be from Philadelphia, but a lot just doesn't seem plausible.
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So this is the 7
St. Johns (NYC)
Seton Hall (North Jersey)
Villanova (Philly)
Georgetown (D.C.)
Depaul (Chicago)
Marquette (Milwaukee)
Providence (R.I.)
It seems pretty clear they are going to go after Xavier (Cincinnati). So the question is how many more do they try to add. I think they should go to 12 for optimum value. Given the markets those 8 have, I think they will go after Butler (Indianapolis), Charlotte, Creighton (IA), and St. Louis.
So they could do an East and West
West - Marquette, Depaul, St. Louis, Xavier, Butler, Creighton
East - Charlotte, Georgetown, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Villanova, Providence
Clearly they could target some other schools instead of St. Louis and Creighton so they could compact a bit more schools such as Dayton, Richmond, Virginia Commonwealth would all make sense. UMass might as well but they just added a FBS football school so that might cause problems.
Besides Xavier, I think adding St. Joseph's, La Salle, Duquense and St. Bonaventura make the most sense and have the conference called the Catholic Conference.
I just can't see them adding a bunch of schools in Philadelphia. Adds nothing to the conference from a financial standpoint. They might just add 1 team aside from Xavier and that one team may be from Philadelphia, but a lot just doesn't seem plausible.
Of course its plausible. It will be a basketball only conference. These schools don't make any money from football so they HAVE to reduce travel costs to keep the programs operational. They also can form academic ties considering all are Catholic schools. It will also maximize their chances of getting a local television contract because the schools don't have the followings to pull of a national television contract by spreading schools all across the East. Regionalization, in these schools cases, makes the most financial, academic and competitive sense.
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So this is the 7
St. Johns (NYC)
Seton Hall (North Jersey)
Villanova (Philly)
Georgetown (D.C.)
Depaul (Chicago)
Marquette (Milwaukee)
Providence (R.I.)
It seems pretty clear they are going to go after Xavier (Cincinnati). So the question is how many more do they try to add. I think they should go to 12 for optimum value. Given the markets those 8 have, I think they will go after Butler (Indianapolis), Charlotte, Creighton (IA), and St. Louis.
So they could do an East and West
West - Marquette, Depaul, St. Louis, Xavier, Butler, Creighton
East - Charlotte, Georgetown, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Villanova, Providence
Clearly they could target some other schools instead of St. Louis and Creighton so they could compact a bit more schools such as Dayton, Richmond, Virginia Commonwealth would all make sense. UMass might as well but they just added a FBS football school so that might cause problems.
Besides Xavier, I think adding St. Joseph's, La Salle, Duquense and St. Bonaventura make the most sense and have the conference called the Catholic Conference.
I just can't see them adding a bunch of schools in Philadelphia. Adds nothing to the conference from a financial standpoint. They might just add 1 team aside from Xavier and that one team may be from Philadelphia, but a lot just doesn't seem plausible.
Of course its plausible. It will be a basketball only conference. These schools don't make any money from football so they HAVE to reduce travel costs to keep the programs operational. They also can form academic ties considering all are Catholic schools. It will also maximize their chances of getting a local television contract because the schools don't have the followings to pull of a national television contract by spreading schools all across the East. Regionalization, in these schools cases, makes the most financial, academic and competitive sense.
One other thing to keep in mind is that the Big East was founded based on schools with big markets. The one obvious big market missing from this list is a school from Boston. With BC out of the picture, they might try to pull in Northeastern (or UMass to at least have a presence in the state)
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So this is the 7
St. Johns (NYC)
Seton Hall (North Jersey)
Villanova (Philly)
Georgetown (D.C.)
Depaul (Chicago)
Marquette (Milwaukee)
Providence (R.I.)
It seems pretty clear they are going to go after Xavier (Cincinnati). So the question is how many more do they try to add. I think they should go to 12 for optimum value. Given the markets those 8 have, I think they will go after Butler (Indianapolis), Charlotte, Creighton (IA), and St. Louis.
So they could do an East and West
West - Marquette, Depaul, St. Louis, Xavier, Butler, Creighton
East - Charlotte, Georgetown, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Villanova, Providence
Clearly they could target some other schools instead of St. Louis and Creighton so they could compact a bit more schools such as Dayton, Richmond, Virginia Commonwealth would all make sense. UMass might as well but they just added a FBS football school so that might cause problems.
Besides Xavier, I think adding St. Joseph's, La Salle, Duquense and St. Bonaventura make the most sense and have the conference called the Catholic Conference.
I just can't see them adding a bunch of schools in Philadelphia. Adds nothing to the conference from a financial standpoint. They might just add 1 team aside from Xavier and that one team may be from Philadelphia, but a lot just doesn't seem plausible.
Of course its plausible. It will be a basketball only conference. These schools don't make any money from football so they HAVE to reduce travel costs to keep the programs operational. They also can form academic ties considering all are Catholic schools. It will also maximize their chances of getting a local television contract because the schools don't have the followings to pull of a national television contract by spreading schools all across the East. Regionalization, in these schools cases, makes the most financial, academic and competitive sense.
all of the stories about them leaving link the 7 with other Catholic schools like Xavier, Dayton, Creighton, and some even mention Gonzaga and then non-Catholic schools like Butler and VCU. Nothing about a bunch of teams in markets they have teams from. So yeah travel costs will be less, but they still want to get on tv in as many markets as they can, because they will get so much more money with big time markets.
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So this is the 7
St. Johns (NYC)
Seton Hall (North Jersey)
Villanova (Philly)
Georgetown (D.C.)
Depaul (Chicago)
Marquette (Milwaukee)
Providence (R.I.)
It seems pretty clear they are going to go after Xavier (Cincinnati). So the question is how many more do they try to add. I think they should go to 12 for optimum value. Given the markets those 8 have, I think they will go after Butler (Indianapolis), Charlotte, Creighton (IA), and St. Louis.
So they could do an East and West
West - Marquette, Depaul, St. Louis, Xavier, Butler, Creighton
East - Charlotte, Georgetown, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Villanova, Providence
Clearly they could target some other schools instead of St. Louis and Creighton so they could compact a bit more schools such as Dayton, Richmond, Virginia Commonwealth would all make sense. UMass might as well but they just added a FBS football school so that might cause problems.
Besides Xavier, I think adding St. Joseph's, La Salle, Duquense and St. Bonaventura make the most sense and have the conference called the Catholic Conference.
I just can't see them adding a bunch of schools in Philadelphia. Adds nothing to the conference from a financial standpoint. They might just add 1 team aside from Xavier and that one team may be from Philadelphia, but a lot just doesn't seem plausible.
Of course its plausible. It will be a basketball only conference. These schools don't make any money from football so they HAVE to reduce travel costs to keep the programs operational. They also can form academic ties considering all are Catholic schools. It will also maximize their chances of getting a local television contract because the schools don't have the followings to pull of a national television contract by spreading schools all across the East. Regionalization, in these schools cases, makes the most financial, academic and competitive sense.
all of the stories about them leaving link the 7 with other Catholic schools like Xavier, Dayton, Creighton, and some even mention Gonzaga and then non-Catholic schools like Butler and VCU. Nothing about a bunch of teams in markets they have teams from. So yeah travel costs will be less, but they still want to get on tv in as many markets as they can, because they will get so much more money with big time markets.
Except these are generally small schools with small followings. Generating ratings high enough to warrant a national contract will be nearly impossible. They will be better served keeping the conference regional and generating television interest by creating rivalries from teams that are situate close to each other. Attempting to create a conference of a larger proportion to get a larger amount of markets is a long term losing proposition for schools that generate zero money from NCAA football.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20121221/catholic-7-future/?sct=hp_t2_a2&eref=sihp (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20121221/catholic-7-future/?sct=hp_t2_a2&eref=sihp)
How big will the Catholic 7 league become?
The most pressing question in the future of the Catholic 7 is how the league will shape up. Initially there was a debate about whether the league would go to 10 or 12 schools.
As of now, the answer is 12. Why? A favorite new buzz word of the realignment era -- inventory. If there are 12 teams, there will be 20-percent more conference games -- 216 vs. 180. That means 36 extra league games available, and that's quite a bit of content for programming-starved networks. (The total inventory will be much greater.)
The coaches, who have virtually no say in realignment, would prefer a 10-team league with a double round-robin. But inventory rules, so look for the league to go to 12 teams.
Who will be added?
The teams that will definitely be added to the mix are Xavier and Butler. Creighton and Dayton are the next two on the list, and should be considered near definite. (Dayton's biggest issue would be opposition from Xavier.)
That makes 11. From there, Saint Louis is a favorite for spot No. 12.
What makes the Billikens a strong candidate is their market, but it's important to remember that in this strain of realignment, markets shouldn't make a huge difference. Markets are critical for, say, the Big Ten, which has its own television channel, or the SEC, which is plotting one. The Catholic 7 have zero chance at having their own television channel. So they need programs like Dayton and Creighton with big arenas, rabid fan bases and winning traditions more than they do teams in big cities that command little attention.
Who else is in the running for slot No. 12? VCU has been bandied about, but they are neither private nor religious. They are light years ahead of Saint Louis as a program in terms of recent success and facilities infrastructure. VCU has proven through Jeff Capel, Anthony Grant and Shaka Smart that they are built to last.
Davidson is a sleeper option, as it's private but lacks a religious affiliation. Saint Joseph's could get a look, but they are unlikely because Villanova threw a fit when the Big East took Temple.
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It appears they are still going to be called the Big East and apparently are only adding Xavier and Butler for a 9 team conference. First year they may have Notre Dame before its move to the ACC, but otherwise the Big East will have 9 teams.
Butler - Indianapolis
Depaul - Chicago
Georgetown - D.C.
Marquette - Milwaukee
Providence - Providence
Seton Hall - North Jersey
St. John's - NYC
Villanova - Philly
Xavier - Cincinnati
I still think they may eventually go to 12 teams with 2 divisions by adding VCU to the eastern division and two teams like Creighton and Dayton to the western division, but for now those are the 9.
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Looks like they will go to 10 for next year by adding Creighton along with Xavier and Butler.
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Pretty good basketball conference. I like the Butler, Xavier and Creighton additions. SI.com was saying that Georgetown isn't keen on VCU, which is a shame as it would enhance the league imo.
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Pretty good basketball conference. I like the Butler, Xavier and Creighton additions. SI.com was saying that Georgetown isn't keen on VCU, which is a shame as it would enhance the league imo.
yeah GTown pretty much vetoed VCU, but not Richmond, so if they add an eastern team I would expect Richmond. I suppose Charlotte might be an outside possibility as well. Dayton and St. Louis appear to be the front runners if they go to 12, but that would make 7 western and 5 eastern teams which would be odd for a 2 division format.
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This conference is doomed. They will never get that big of a contract and if they do, the ratings will never live up to them. Schools are too small with small followings that are too small. What will a 10 team school generate, $4-8 million per school...tops of tv money? That will never keep those schools from eventually having to look elsewhere for a better deal and then that's when things get chaotic and you can start to see the writing on the wall for the end.
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This conference is doomed. They will never get that big of a contract and if they do, the ratings will never live up to them. Schools are too small with small followings that are too small. What will a 10 team school generate, $4-8 million per school...tops of tv money? That will never keep those schools from eventually having to look elsewhere for a better deal and then that's when things get chaotic and you can start to see the writing on the wall for the end.
It will be less than that, I mean the football schools with their additions (which includes some solid basketball schools) were much less than that. I'd expect something like 10 million a year (for the conference) for national tv, maybe 15 to 20 based on name recognition, but there is virtually no money in basketball.
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This conference is doomed. They will never get that big of a contract and if they do, the ratings will never live up to them. Schools are too small with small followings that are too small. What will a 10 team school generate, $4-8 million per school...tops of tv money? That will never keep those schools from eventually having to look elsewhere for a better deal and then that's when things get chaotic and you can start to see the writing on the wall for the end.
It will be less than that, I mean the football schools with their additions (which includes some solid basketball schools) were much less than that. I'd expect something like 10 million a year (for the conference) for national tv, maybe 15 to 20 based on name recognition, but there is virtually no money in basketball.
Thats what I was driving at. Even if the new Fox Sports Network threw them some ridiculous contract the most each school could hope for would be a couple million or more. Without football programs, thats not enough to keep some of these basketball only schools happy long term while they are losing money. They will start shopping around for a better deal somewhere else.
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Xavier's president confirmed they will get 2.5 million dollars and that had been making these arrangements for awhile since they only get 400k in the Atlantic 10. It is also reported that all 10 teams will split the pot evenly, so that would make the Fox Sports deal right around 25 million a year.