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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: JSD on December 08, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
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Dear Paul Pierce,
Show Jeff Green the ropes. I need you to get into his ear and talk to him about how to be more effective. Green has all the tools of a young Pierce, what he is missing is the mental approach. Help him out captain!
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Dear Paul Pierce,
Show Jeff Green the ropes. I need you to get into his ear and talk to him about how to be more effective. Green has all the tools of a young Pierce, what he is missing is the mental approach. Help him out captain!
I've noticed KG is already in Green's ear. I agree with the tools part. If I could pick a basketball body to put a brain in, Jeff Green would be on my list.
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Jeff Green has really turned his game up the last 4 games. He looks awesome again tonight.
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Dear Paul Pierce,
Show Jeff Green the ropes. I need you to get into his ear and talk to him about how to be more effective. Green has all the tools of a young Pierce, what he is missing is the mental approach. Help him out captain!
I've noticed KG is already in Green's ear. I agree with the tools part. If I could pick a basketball body to put a brain in, Jeff Green would be on my list.
I agree also that JG has the tools, but I think he has a high bball IQ too. He just needs to be more confident and aggressive,
John Thompson Jr. says that JG is "the smartest bball player" he has ever coached.He's gonnna get it together. Trust me.
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Dear Paul Pierce,
Show Jeff Green the ropes. I need you to get into his ear and talk to him about how to be more effective. Green has all the tools of a young Pierce, what he is missing is the mental approach. Help him out captain!
I've noticed KG is already in Green's ear. I agree with the tools part. If I could pick a basketball body to put a brain in, Jeff Green would be on my list.
I agree also that JG has the tools, but I think he has a high bball IQ too. He just needs to be more confident and aggressive,
John Thompson Jr. says that JG is "the smartest bball player" he has ever coached.He's gonnna get it together. Trust me.
TP for the quote. Jeff is starting to get things together, and play D to add to his good offense. By the end of february, we'll see a glimpse of what this team can be, with a healthy Avery and Jet+Lee+Green playing and not thinking so much as right now.
go Celtics!
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Dear Paul Pierce,
Show Jeff Green the ropes. I need you to get into his ear and talk to him about how to be more effective. Green has all the tools of a young Pierce, what he is missing is the mental approach. Help him out captain!
I've noticed KG is already in Green's ear. I agree with the tools part. If I could pick a basketball body to put a brain in, Jeff Green would be on my list.
I agree also that JG has the tools, but I think he has a high bball IQ too. He just needs to be more confident and aggressive,
John Thompson Jr. says that JG is "the smartest bball player" he has ever coached.He's gonnna get it together. Trust me.
TP for the quote. Jeff is starting to get things together, and play D to add to his good offense. By the end of february, we'll see a glimpse of what this team can be, with a healthy Avery and Jet+Lee+Green playing and not thinking so much as right now.
go Celtics!
Like the optimism...+1
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This comparing of Jeff Green to Pierce has to stop.
They are very different players, despite the fact that they play the same position. We need to expect different things from Jeff than we expect from Pierce. Jeff is never going to become Pierce.
Pierce is an all-time great scorer. He will know how to score until the very last day he steps on a court. For his career, Pierce has averaged 21.5 points per 36 minutes, on 15.8 shot attempts and 7.2 free throws. Jeff is an average scorer who can exploit matchups to go off at certain times. For his career, Jeff has averaged 14.9 points per 36 minutes, on 12.6 shots attempts and 3.5 shot attempts. Pierce's career high PER is 23.6, and his average PER is 20.6. Jeff has never had a PER higher than 13.9 -- below league average.
Ideally, Jeff Green is a glue guy who will make some big plays and give you a nice all-around contribution without being the focal point. He's got a lot more Lamar Odom in him than Paul Pierce. That's not even a bad thing. We just need to let him play that role and not try to shoehorn him into one he's not suited for.
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I think I understand what JSD is saying...if I took a stab at it, JSD's comments could be construed as:
"Paul Pierce - show JG how to be a playmaker..make your teammates better."
Jeff Green already knows how to score..he's showing flashes of playing defense. He's long and athletic. He needs to become more of a vocal leader - but the leadership part can wait. He needs to become a better facilitator - someone to run the offense THROUGH - not so much get points. Need more assists out of him.
BUT - in the role that Doc and the team has for him RIGHT NOW? He's perfect. We don't necessarily NEED - right NOW - for him to average 12 pts, 5 rebs and 4 assists off the bench. That stat line would be great, but I'm thankful for that scoring.
Jeff Green is providing that - the scoring. I believe he already has the tools to provide the assists and everything else we could eventually need from him as a potential future starter on this team.
With that, I'm guessing that's where JSD is going with his post. Jeff Green could very well be a future piece on our team, and in replacing Paul Pierce we'd need a bit more out of him.
But RIGHT NOW? I'm happy for the man and his production. Keep it up, Super 8.
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Green has all the tools of a young Pierce, what he is missing is the mental approach.
Jeff is starting to play some nice ball, but I wouldn't say he has all the tools of a young Pierce yet. The thing that really limits him is his ball-handling. At the moment, teams can shut him down if he doesn't get the right mismatch or a good lane to the basket.
If Pierce can help Green develop his ball-handling and pick up some of his tricks for throwing defenders off-balance, he will be able to maneuver defenders to draw fouls, get to the basket or create a mid-range shot for himself.
Those skills won't develop overnight, but I'd like to think that over the next couple of years, Jeff will apply himself and gradually acquire some of Pierce's tricks.
The Celtics would then be in pretty good shape at SF, with Pierce able to transition to more of a veteran scorer's role off the bench if he wants to down the track.
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What Jeff Green needs is some of Pierces "COLD BLOODED" offensive instincts, no hesitation to score. How to intimidate the other player, get under his skin , distract him and then throw down in his face.
Green has his own moves... he needs to learn the pleasure (Pierce) feels as he destroys his opponents. He needs to let the game come to him and assert himself everytime a Jeff Green matchup advantage comes his way.
Jeff , just be ruthless on the court. Talk smack and get under the skin of your opponent some.
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What Jeff Green needs is some of Pierces "COLD BLOODED" offensive instincts, no hesitation to score. How to intimidate the other player, get under his skin , distract him and then throw down in his face.
Green has his own moves... he needs to learn the pleasure (Pierce) feels as he destroys his opponents. He needs to let the game come to him and assert himself everytime a Jeff Green matchup advantage comes his way.
Jeff , just be ruthless on the court. Talk smack and get under the skin of your opponent some.
Jeff isn't a smack talker. That's just not him.
I do agree that he can have a bit more of an intimidation factor though.
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What Jeff Green needs is some of Pierces "COLD BLOODED" offensive instincts, no hesitation to score. How to intimidate the other player, get under his skin , distract him and then throw down in his face.
Green has his own moves... he needs to learn the pleasure (Pierce) feels as he destroys his opponents. He needs to let the game come to him and assert himself everytime a Jeff Green matchup advantage comes his way.
Jeff , just be ruthless on the court. Talk smack and get under the skin of your opponent some.
As others have said, that's just not Green's game.
Green is in his 5th NBA season now! He is who he is at this point. And he is NOT Paul Pierce, nor anybody like Paul Pierce.
We should be hoping for Jeff Green to maximize the talents he has and the style of play that he is comfortable playing, not hoping for him to suddenly turn into a young Paul Pierce.
Jeff Green is not Rudy Gay. (not saying Rudy Gay is a young Pierce, but he's a scorer first, the way Paul always has been)
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Hopefully, Green is this year's Avery Bradley, and he finally will get it and get the most of his considerable ability. I'm not that hopeful, since the guy's been around the NBA for over a half decade now.
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His biggest problem is is footwork.
He jumps off the wrong foot on each side of the basket, he travels so much, and we are lucky he's not called from more travelling violations.
Luckily he's so athletic that he can contort his body mid air to make up for the awkward take off.
Ball handling and footwork drills are what he needs.
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not to mention he still have to leaarn how to deffend lebron
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Jeff Green, from all the way back to his Georgetown days was a Tin Man. He just needs one thing to make him a superstar. The heart. Or in other words: the desire, the need, the drive.
I'm just not sure that is something anyone can teach. You have it or you don't. His passiveness and lack of consistency to me show that he doesn't have it. He has the tools though. But even the greatest carpenter with the best tools in the world can not build a house if he doesn't have the desire to do so.
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Jeff Green, from all the way back to his Georgetown days was a Tin Man. He just needs one thing to make him a superstar. The heart. Or in other words: the desire, the need, the drive.
I'm just not sure that is something anyone can teach. You have it or you don't. His passiveness and lack of consistency to me show that he doesn't have it. He has the tools though. But even the greatest carpenter with the best tools in the world can not build a house if he doesn't have the desire to do so.
People questioned lebron on the same things.
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Jeff Green was not, is not, and will not be Paul Pierce. Supposedly, Jeff Green is a athletic wing who should know how to slash, shoot spot-ups and setting screens. He does not have the tool to be a star.
1. He is a straight line driver, who does not change speed and direction, only exploiting slower defenders, and he is not very quick on his first step either.
2. Not a reliable shooter yet, streaky at best
3. Can only post up smaller three and destroyed by post-up three/four
4. Does not box out on D, bad rebounder.
5. Court vision close to 0.
Not saying Pierce excels at all 5, but at least he is above average to excellent in those.
We label Green as an athletic wing, but the truth is he is not that athletic.
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We label Green as an athletic wing, but the truth is he is not that athletic.
Im sure the other criticisms of Jeff are well-founded in some areas especially when compared to pierce, but Jeff is extremely athletic. That is his one elite attribute. His speed, leaping ability and ability to finish on both sides of the rim are very good.
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We label Green as an athletic wing, but the truth is he is not that athletic.
Im sure the other criticisms of Jeff are well-founded in some areas especially when compared to pierce, but Jeff is extremely athletic. That is his one elite attribute. His speed, leaping ability and ability to finish on both sides of the rim are very good.
Just behind the likes of Gay and Iggy, who are elite SF athletes.
But the thing is he's 6'9. He's doing this stuff at legit 6'9. Put on more muscle this year too. That's why the stuff he does looks so surreal.
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Jeff Green, from all the way back to his Georgetown days was a Tin Man. He just needs one thing to make him a superstar. The heart. Or in other words: the desire, the need, the drive.
I'm just not sure that is something anyone can teach. You have it or you don't. His passiveness and lack of consistency to me show that he doesn't have it. He has the tools though. But even the greatest carpenter with the best tools in the world can not build a house if he doesn't have the desire to do so.
People questioned lebron on the same things.
Are we really comparing Jeff Green to Lebron James now?
Lebron was always consistent in what he brought, game in and game out. He was never considered passive at any time. People questioned his performances on the largest stages but most of that was because they wanted him to go from regular superstar stats and performance to out of this world performance.
Jeff Green is a seriously passive player. He's a poor rebounder without the desire to go in and bang and get rebounds. He's a passable perimeter defender but has no toughness to guard people down low. And his whole career has been one of going on 2-3 week stretches where he looks great and then 2 week stretches where he disappears.
LeBron was never accused of any of those things. He was accused of not showing up on the largest stages at the highest possible performance level he could play at.
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2010 ECF, game 5. One of the most passive games from any of the newest crop of top-tier players.
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Green has NEVER been able to be the man, and in Boston he has yet to even start. So I am just not convinced he doesn't have IT yet.
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Green has NEVER been able to be the man, and in Boston he has yet to even start. So I am just not convinced he doesn't have IT yet.
Could the reason for that be that the management and coaching staff, besides having been around Green for two years and seen how he is as a player and person have also scouted his entire career and determined he doesn't have IT?
Could it be the reason he isn't starting and getting the chance to be THE MAN is because Doc and Danny have determined he doesn't have what it takes to be the man?
I sure think that is the case, myself.
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Green has NEVER been able to be the man, and in Boston he has yet to even start. So I am just not convinced he doesn't have IT yet.
Could the reason for that be that the management and coaching staff, besides having been around Green for two years and seen how he is as a player and person have also scouted his entire career and determined he doesn't have IT?
Could it be the reason he isn't starting and getting the chance to be THE MAN is because Doc and Danny have determined he doesn't have what it takes to be the man?
I sure think that is the case, myself.
Or could the reason be that Pierce is our captain, future hall of famer, is starting and we don't have any other 3 on the roster other than a rookie? Could that be a reason also why he's not starting, particularly considering the logjam we have of SGs?
I'm not going to speculate about this random "be the man" discussion you guys have been going on, but there's a clear reason why Green is not starting, and it majorly has to do because of our current roster make-up is not pertinent to starting our only SFs of caliber on the team at the same time.
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JG has show flashes of being a really good player. But why is anyone comparing him to PP? Other than playing the 3 position for us, they are completely different players. The expectations on JG from this board are way too high. I think best case for us when PP either retires, or starts coming off the bench, is that JG will be able to step in and be a good / nice complimentary starter. If we want to contend for championships after the KG/PP era, there will need to be more superstar power than RR/JG/Sully/AB.
But really where did the idea come from that he was our next superstar? With some more maturity, and a bigger role he may develop a bit more alpha dog type mentality but I don't see him becoming an all-star player. He doesn't seem to have the type of personality to take over a game. He is what he is, a really good complimentary player. Why do we need more from him than that?
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Love The Truth, but mentoring a younger player has never been his style. He'll do it as a member of a group - like the Big 3 with Rondo and Perk - but I don't think Pierce is secure enough to mentor a young, talented player who may make him obsolete (MAY, mind you) on a team in which he is The Captain.
You know who is secure enough? KG!
KG will mentor anyone willing to listen. He'll even bark at guys that tune him out. KG is probably the most secure player in the league.
I think Pierce still has a chip on his shoulder from being selected #10 when he was a top-3 talent. And, for being the All Star on so many crappy teams. And, for not truly becoming a Hall of Fame-worthy player until two other Hall of Famers joined his team.
I wish Pierce would mentor Green (and Joseph), but I don't think he will in the way we all want him to. He never really tried to mentor Tony Allen, Bill Walker, Leon Powe, Gerald Green, or Ryan Gomes.
I do applaud Pierce for his work in the community and with children. He goes way out of his way with his charities and fitness programs.
On the court, though, he's always been a little more selfish than KG.
As long as KG is in green, we'll have our resident mentor, and he'll get on everybody.
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After Jeffs great preseason run, I am really shocked Pierce and Jeff were not paired earlier as our main GUARDS(no green at the 4 funny business), leaving rondo at the point. This idea makes sooo much sense to me and I am baffled why Doc doesn't see this.
Pierce and Green are playing together a little more now, and it shows that Rondo, Pierce, Green is a dominant guard lineup. Terry and Lee are good, but Pierce and green at the guard spots is what our team needs for wins at this time. Pierce and green need to start.
When Bradley comes back, he can be the first sub for Pierce at 2, and then pierce can come back in for green later. Bradley can move to point (awesome pressure D at point) as terry/lee come in for the 2 spot.
Bradley can eventually start at the 2 and we can bring green off the bench as season progresses down the line, who knows what will happen.
But Green and Pierce need to play together as GUARDS. We are so good when this happens.
Yep, this is my "I wish I was a coach" post and if I was a player i would be offended reading this ( i hope they don't ). But I coached middleschool bball and we won the champ. and it is pretty simple, best lineups on court as long as possible.
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JG has show flashes of being a really good player. But why is anyone comparing him to PP? Other than playing the 3 position for us, they are completely different players. The expectations on JG from this board are way too high. I think best case for us when PP either retires, or starts coming off the bench, is that JG will be able to step in and be a good / nice complimentary starter. If we want to contend for championships after the KG/PP era, there will need to be more superstar power than RR/JG/Sully/AB.
But really where did the idea come from that he was our next superstar? With some more maturity, and a bigger role he may develop a bit more alpha dog type mentality but I don't see him becoming an all-star player. He doesn't seem to have the type of personality to take over a game. He is what he is, a really good complimentary player. Why do we need more from him than that?
don't put a ceiling on anyone.
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Jeff Green, from all the way back to his Georgetown days was a Tin Man. He just needs one thing to make him a superstar. The heart. Or in other words: the desire, the need, the drive.
I'm just not sure that is something anyone can teach. You have it or you don't. His passiveness and lack of consistency to me show that he doesn't have it. He has the tools though. But even the greatest carpenter with the best tools in the world can not build a house if he doesn't have the desire to do so.
That is a purely subjective opinion, reflecting your take on what you have perceived of Jeff Green. And that's fair - you are entitled to it.
But I'm going to respectfully disagree. I have been following Jeff Green's career all the way back to his G-Town days and I just see him completely differently than what you describe here.
I'm not going to assert that Green is this way or that way, because (as I've said many times) I am not a big believer in armchair psychoanalyzing.
But observationally, I do think if you watched him back in Georgetown, I find it hard to believe you would think he 'had no heart'. He was the captain (literally), the leader and the killer, clutch player for that Hoyas team. He made many, big time shots in big games. Man - that win over vanderbilt in the tournament? That was pure ice.
Sticking to basketball, I do know that Green spent the first 4 years of his career forced to play second/third fiddle and out of position - yet was always lauded by teammates and coaches for his locker-room leadership.
There really was not much he could do to break out of the 'third wheel' trap. Would we think more highly of him if he had griped about his utilization? Would that have been showing more 'fire'? Hard to say. I try to stick to what goes on on the court.
In OKC, Green's role on offense boiled down to setting picks and shooting clock-expiring 3s and otherwise watching Westbrook and Durant take a bazillion shots.
Consider: In his last season in OKC, Green took 30% of his shots from 3PT land and only 28% of his shots at the rim (Almost always on fast-breaks. Rarely in half-court plays). Now, Green is a decent 3PT shooter, but that is NOT what you want him to be doing, with his speed and athleticism. You want him at the rim. In OKC, the highest percentage of his shots at the rim he ever took was 33.8% in his rookie year. It declined after that.
In Doc's system, so far this year, he's only taking about 21% of his shots from 3PT range and 35% at the rim.
When he first came here, he barely had time to try to fit in in a tough situation (Perkins trade) - though he did at least play credibly once we got to the playoffs and against Miami that year. I don't think we could expect him to break free of the patterns of deferral that had been beaten into him for 5 years in just those few weeks - especially when joining a team loaded with 3 future HoF players, plus Rondo - in other words loaded with guys way up on the pecking order ahead of him. So he wasn't going to suddenly be the alpha dog. Interestingly though, right off the bat, his 'at rim' share of his shots went up to 39% during that period.
And then he missed an entire year due to heart surgery.
I think expecting him to suddenly come back at 100% AND to have reverted to the alpha dog role he had in college (after 4 years of being conditioned to NOT be the alpha dog) was unrealistic. It takes time to (a) get fully back into NBA condition and (b) un-learn deference developed over several years of playing in a system that under-utlized him.
But to suggest that he 'just doesn't have it in him'? I don't claim to be a psychologist or a mind-reader, but the way he played for the Hoyas in '06 & '07 did not strike me as a someone who has no 'heart'. He _was_ the heart of that team. He's still that guy.
Anyway, we know he has a heart. The doctors worked on it last season.
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Pierce should teach Green to take a three-point shot anytime that Pierce would.
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His biggest problem is is footwork.
He jumps off the wrong foot on each side of the basket, he travels so much, and we are lucky he's not called from more travelling violations.
Luckily he's so athletic that he can contort his body mid air to make up for the awkward take off.
Ball handling and footwork drills are what he needs.
THIS!!!
Thank You for saying this!
Jeff Green can never be Paul Pierce-like, because what makes Paul Pierce so special, is for a guy his size, and (non)athleticism, his foot work is phenomenal! (I'd say some of the best footwork over the last 20 years.)
Jeff Green has some of the worst footwork, I've seen since like Anthony Johnson! (old backup point guard for pacers and Nets). Jeff Green's raw athleticism, and large hands, bail him out all the time, from his horrible feet.
This is a large part of why, Jeff Green gets a number of charge fouls, and why he really can't turn the corner on hand-offs and pick-n-rolls.
I'm not sure if he can ever learn those herky-jerky, and hesitation moves of Paul Pierce, because those moves require great footwork and balance. In order to do those kinds of moves Jeff Green is going to have to totally reconstruct his body mechanics. It's pretty much too late for that.
Having said all that, I love what Jeff's done over the past 5 games, and I think he is going to start becoming more consistent, because his found a niche in the system, where he is comfortable. ;D
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JG has show flashes of being a really good player. But why is anyone comparing him to PP? Other than playing the 3 position for us, they are completely different players. The expectations on JG from this board are way too high. I think best case for us when PP either retires, or starts coming off the bench, is that JG will be able to step in and be a good / nice complimentary starter. If we want to contend for championships after the KG/PP era, there will need to be more superstar power than RR/JG/Sully/AB.
But really where did the idea come from that he was our next superstar? With some more maturity, and a bigger role he may develop a bit more alpha dog type mentality but I don't see him becoming an all-star player. He doesn't seem to have the type of personality to take over a game. He is what he is, a really good complimentary player. Why do we need more from him than that?
don't put a ceiling on anyone.
what is that even supposed to mean? I gave an opinion. JG is who determines his ceiling. Not us. I would love it if JG turns out to be an allstar. A lot of people seem to expect to be a future superstar, but I don't believe he will be. And I really like him as a player...
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What bothers me is that even Green's aggressiveness looks forced. You can literally see him get the ball, hesitate, then think "Oh yeah, I'm supposed to be aggressive," then think for another second, gather himself and then drive to the hoop.
Against any competent playoff defense this is just going to be a disaster.
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The biggest improvement I've seen from Green has been on defense. He's doing a much better job guarding his man and closing out on shooters. Offensively, he's just making shots. When he was struggling, he took exactly the same shots--the corner threes, postups, drives to the hoop--but ever other game, they didn't go in frequently. Made shots have beget more shots and more playing time.
I don't think the difference between Pierce and Green is footwork. Pierce is just a lot quicker than Green, still and when he was Green's age, he was a whole lot quicker. I know Green is universally considered a better athlete than Pierce ever was and in terms of end to end speed and hops, I agree but quickness isn't always packaged with those attributes. Pierce had an elite first step and quick second and third steps as well whereas Green is mid-tempo throughout his drives. If Pierce was matched up against Hawes like Green was on Friday, he wouldn't have struggled to blow right by him. Green never blows by his man in iso situations; they stay square with him and that's one reason why Green's layup attempts come far from the hoop.
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Watch this video. He talks about Greens footwork.
It's so freaking awkward.
I want you to watch Jeff Green next game and watch his footwork. It's just horrid at times.
Thanks god for his reach, length and soft touch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OnTC_KU0Qk
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The guy in that video is very orthodox. Nowadays jumping off your right foot and shooting with your right hand is not that uncommon. If it was a sign of terrible footwork, Rondo, Westbrook, Nash, Tyreke Evans, Ginobili, Parker and so on would have bad footwork. Being able to make shots while jumping off the "wrong" foot is an advantage because it disrupts the timing of the defense and/or helps to get the shot off quicker.
That video showed off Green's inability to drive to his left more than it did bad footwork. Green's just one of those players who can only drive in one direction. The Spurs are one of the few teams that really seem to emphasize the weaker hand of the opposition and it's no surprise they forced Green to his left. For instance, they're one of the most insistent teams at trying to force Chris Paul to his left since Paul almost always goes to his right and finishes with his right. It's easier said than done however because Paul has a killer crossover and changes directions so explosively that he can still get back to his right more times than not.
Green actually showed very nice footwork in the post when he spun his way to a turnaround jumper.
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Watch this video. He talks about Greens footwork.
It's so freaking awkward.
I want you to watch Jeff Green next game and watch his footwork. It's just horrid at times.
Thanks god for his reach, length and soft touch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OnTC_KU0Qk
Gah our defense is sooooo much better now...why did you have to remind me of that game.....?!?!
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The guy in that video is very orthodox. Nowadays jumping off your right foot and shooting with your right hand is not that uncommon. If it was a sign of terrible footwork, Rondo, Westbrook, Nash, Tyreke Evans, Ginobili, Parker and so on would have bad footwork. Being able to make shots while jumping off the "wrong" foot is an advantage because it disrupts the timing of the defense and/or helps to get the shot off quicker.
That video showed off Green's inability to drive to his left more than it did bad footwork. Green's just one of those players who can only drive in one direction. The Spurs are one of the few teams that really seem to emphasize the weaker hand of the opposition and it's no surprise they forced Green to his left. For instance, they're one of the most insistent teams at trying to force Chris Paul to his left since Paul almost always goes to his right and finishes with his right. It's easier said than done however because Paul has a killer crossover and changes directions so explosively that he can still get back to his right more times than not.
Green actually showed very nice footwork in the post when he spun his way to a turnaround jumper.
You need to watch him closer for more games. He's done it his whole career and it's a big problem for him.
Ginobli and Rondo rarely step off the wrong foot, and when they do, they are doing it under control.
Jeff Green somewhat loses control going to the basket a lot, and also over thinks his moves on the perimeter and particularly when back down in the post.
I want you to watch Jeff and see how easily opposing defenders slap the ball out of his hands and how often he travels without it being called.
Don't get me wrong, I love the guy and I've supported him since the day he was traded as much as anyone here. The only time I was slightly worried was about 12 games in and he was still hesitant and the next game he shut out all doubt I'd ever have.
I understand what you're saying about players jumping off the wrong foot but it's a pure mistake/error on Jeff's part and he does not mean to do it. Thankfully he's got enough athleticism and physical gifts to make up for this problem. I'll try and find some more videos to highlight this.